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Tales of How Big Corporations Are Screwing Americans Over
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The silver lining -- if there is one -- in this horrible [financial] crisis is that for years, the country just wasn't paying attention to how the typical worker was doing," declares New York Times labor and workplace correspondent Steven Greenhouse.
"There was so much focus on the wizards of Wall Street and the brilliant entrepreneurs of Silicon Valley, but very, very little attention paid to how the average worker was doing. I think the recession has gotten the nation to realize that things are really bad for millions and millions of average workers."
Greenhouse has described that pinch in The Big Squeeze: Tough Times for the American Worker, his chronicle of everything that's wrong with the modern U.S. workplace: "stagnant wages, worsening benefits, horrible treatment," as he put it in an interview with Miller-McCune.com.
"There are a lot of unfair, often illegal things going on in the workplace," says Greenhouse, who also holds a law degree from New York University. Some of the legal violations he details in his new book include forcing employees to work off the clock, union busting and sexual discrimination and harassment. The Big Squeeze has been described by Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz as "shocking and important"; American Conservative magazine, which would be more likely to be critical of the work, said, "Greenhouse's picture should unnerve anyone committed to a stable future for American democracy." Although, it added: "Greenhouse can offer only unsatisfactory suggestions for redressing the plight of America's workers."
Toil and Trouble
Relating the accounts of actual people and their experiences working for some of the nation's best-known companies, Greenhouse doesn't just round up the usual suspects -- although he does devote considerable space to Wal-Mart, writing that "its low wages and benefits have created a downward pull on the way that many companies treat their workers."
Broadening his focus beyond low-wage workplaces with relatively low-skilled jobs, Greenhouse -- who says he requested the labor-and-workplace beat after a stint covering economic and foreign policy for the Times because he hankered to return to "reporting about flesh-and-blood people" -- also details questionable employment practices of firms typically regarded as employee-friendly.
Federal courts, for example, have ruled that the FedEx Ground division of the package delivery giant -- listed on Fortune's "100 Best Companies to Work For" — improperly classified drivers (among them a three-time cancer survivor interviewed by Greenhouse) as independent contractors in order to cut costs.
Greenhouse also profiles a woman who spent more than a decade working full-time as a so-called temp, "receiving lesser pay, benefits, and status than regular workers," for Hewlett-Packard, a company whose corporate culture, "the HP Way," was once widely celebrated for valuing workers.
Some of the other workers he describes in his book toil in what Greenhouse calls a "workplace hell," where store managers for national retailers erase hours from workers' time sheets to cut payroll costs, and a plastics manufacturer's flouting of safety rules results in four workers losing fingers in little more than a year.
Despite such conditions, and the U.S. unemployment rate reaching 9.5 percent in July, Greenhouse cites reasons for optimism -- among them, the rising demand for "green jobs." He concedes that green industries may still involve some offshore production: "Solar panels have a lot of complicated electronic guts," he says, so companies "might find it easier to make that in China than here." But many green jobs -- installing solar panels, retrofitting houses, erecting wind turbines -- will be immune to outsourcing, he says, because they have to be done here.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Jul 17, 2009 2:29 AM
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 17, 2009 2:29 AM
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Jul 17, 2009 2:30 AM
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Just look at the stats. Over 90% of the total national debt accrued by the U.S. has been accrued by Repubs. 70% of the total accrued national debt was racked up by a Reagan or a Bush.
Imagine how rich America would be if there were no such thing as Republicans. The streets would be paved with gold. We'd all have yachts.
It's amazing--and gratifying--how quickly the dominant paradigm has done a 180-degree flip. Marx was right all along--and the Republicans were busily proving it. Republcans are tongue-tied because they can't talk about deregulation anymore. If they'd stayed in power a few more years, we'd all be voting communist by now.
Further evidence that Rush Limbaugh's Kidneys Are on Fire
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Jul 17, 2009 2:31 AM
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Posted by: Suzon on Jul 17, 2009 3:03 AM
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The corporation is based upon "entitlement", the "right" of the few to dominate the many--by any means, even the inhumane and criminal.
The corporation goes back at least to 1067 when William the Conquerer granted the first royal charter of his dynasty to the Corporation of the City of London, a financial Vatican.
Here is the final paragraph of a royal charter granted by King George VI:
And We do for Ourself Our Heirs and successors grant and declare that this Charter or the enrolment thereof shall be in all things valid and effectual in the law according to the true intent and meaning of the same and shall be recognised as valid and effectual by all Our Courts and Judges in our Dominions and by all other officers persons and bodies politic and corporate whom it doth concern and that the same shall be construed in the most favourable and beneficial sense and for the best advantage of the Association as well in all Our several Courts of Record in Our Dominions as elsewhere notwithstanding any non-recital or mis-recital uncertainty or imperfection in this Charter.
"Non-recital" is concealment. "Mis-recital" is deception. In plainer English, secrets and lies.
And whose charter was this? The Boy Scouts.
People are doing bad things because they can. The overprivileged corporation is the enemy of the people.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 17, 2009 3:46 AM
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There is a silver lining behind the dark clouds, People are beginning to wake up to the fact that the old economic ways of doing thinks in America are unsustainable. After reading this piece, I'm more hopeful than ever.
I gottta feelin' called the greens.
Fun with Dick and Liz
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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Posted by: mike_burns on Jul 17, 2009 3:46 AM
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Otherwise, workers are standing on blocks, waiting for corporate bidders. Only purchased slaves get housed and fed.
Will we ever see freedom?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 17, 2009 6:10 AM
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I see this action has since been repeated by others.
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"FRUITY NUMBER
A big load of shit dumped outside Agrexco expressed exactly what activists feel about the Israeli agricultural export company. The truck load of horse manure was off-loaded at the front gate of Agrexco’s depot in Hayes, Middlesex, last Sunday (16th).
Agrexco fruit and veg are grown on illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank and are delivered to mainstream supermarkets in the UK, in breach of British, EU and international law. Britain represents a large market for the company, providing them with sixty percent of their foreign sales.
The action was part of an ongoing campaign against recurring violations of human rights and international law in the occupied territories of Palestine and to expose Agrexco’s illegal activity (See SchNEWS 649)."
I guess Americans are much too polite to do such things.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jul 17, 2009 6:48 AM
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The "free-markets" are only free to that small minority at the top! Reagan came in spouting "get the government off the backs of business" so that they could spread the wealth, what he neglected to mention is he was talking about "BIG BUSINESS"! Newt and the boys came in with their "CONTRACT ON AMERICA" and they weaved that web and deceived people into believing that the Congress was actually for middle America - that too was a lie!
Americans need to wake up and smell the coffee, unless your name is listed on that Forbes 500 Richest or your bank account has at least 9 zeros before the decimal point - you are not one of the people these folk are looking out for! Face it people this is about class, and most Americans are not in the one that is being protected! If that were the case, then the arrogant bunch that tanked the economy would be on trial and awaiting their jail sentences for defrauding the American people! Americans would do much better if we actually started thinking not on party lines but about the best for everyone - which means that we all must make some compromises! It also means that we must all take to the streets and demand our democracy back!
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Posted by: Paul_C on Jul 17, 2009 7:39 AM
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Rather, it came on the backs of workers through a soaring increase in what is called "worker productivity".
But even that is not the "can do spirit" its name suggests, rather it reflects longer hours, both spouses working, loss of benefits and pensions, stagnant wages, loss of overtime and vacation time pay, loss of job security, piling on workloads as support staff are laid off, transitioning from full time to part time contract work, shipping jobs overseas to third world countries, breakup of unions, eroding workplace safety and ever poorer workplace conditions, and so on.
This is what is actually meant by a "Free Market", it is the freedom to exploit workers and appropriate their National Heritage, to cash in America for personal gain, to ship our entire industrial base to Communist China.
This country, if not ultimately all humanity, is lost as long as mega-corporations continue to dominate our government.
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Stell on Jul 17, 2009 8:09 AM
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'"There was so much focus on the wizards of Wall Street and the brilliant entrepreneurs of Silicon Valley, but very, very little attention paid to how the average worker was doing. I think the recession has gotten the nation to realize that things are really bad for millions and millions of average workers."'
UM, we ARE the average workers. We REALIZED this. YOU didn't, because you're a smug NYT reporter asshole.
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Posted by: L5 on Jul 17, 2009 8:43 AM
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Why have we let things get so out of control from what was originally intended?
As noted by Thom Hartman, from "Unequal Protection, The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights", here are some examples of our early laws regarding the regulation of corporations that now need to be revisited:
1.Corporations' licenses to do business were revocable by state legislatures if they exceeded or did not fulfill their chartered purposes.
2.The state legislature could revoke a corporation's charter if it misbehaved.
3. The act of incorporation did not relieve corporate management or stockholders/owners of responsibility or liability for corporate acts.
4. As a matter of course, corporation officers, directors or agents couldn't break the law and avoid punishment by claiming they were "just doing their job" when committing but instead could be held criminally liable for their crimes.
5. State, not federal courts heard cases where corporations or their agents were accused of breaking the law or harming the public.
6. Directors of corporations were required to come from among their stockholders.
7. Corporations had to have their headquarters and meetings in the state where their principle place of business was located
8. Corporation charters were granted for a specific period of time, like 20 or 30 years instead of being granted "in perpetuity" as is now the practice.
9. Corporations were prohibited from owning stock in other corporations in order to prevent them form extending their power inappropriately.
10. Corporations' real estate holdings were limited to what was necessary to carry out their specific purposes.
11. Corporations were prohibited from making any political contributions, directly or indirectly.
12. Corporations were prohibited from making charitable or civic donations outside of their specific purpose.
13. State legislatures could set the rates that monopoly corporations could charge for their products or services.
14. All corporation records and documents were open to the legislature or the state attorney general.
It is important to understand that tens of thousands of entrepreneurs did business in our early Colonies and continue to do so today without being incorporated – the proverbial butcher, baker and candlestick maker and many others. To do business in America or most of the world does not require a corporate structure – people can run partnerships, individual proprietorships or simply manufacture and sell products or offer services without any business structure whatsoever other than keeping track of the money for the IRS.
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Jul 17, 2009 9:06 AM
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What a goof!
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 17, 2009 9:32 AM
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. . . . .
Doesn't this move also shift legal liability for any on-the-job accidents that cause harm to others from the company to the drivers, even if said accidents were the result of company policies?
Am I off base here, or is this another "dirty little secret" of corporate irresponsibility that has not been talked about?
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 17, 2009 9:42 AM
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. . . . .
FINES?! Falsifying wage documents, the example given in the article (but certainly not the worst of what companies do) can be classified as fraud (and tax evasion for the withholding not supplied to the IRS.) The last that I remember, fraud and tax evasion are crimes, and felonies at that. How about PRISON for supervisors who engage is such practices, as well as for company executives who condone them?
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Posted by: weathered on Jul 17, 2009 9:48 AM
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For some greed is a selfish choice, for others its in their DNA.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 17, 2009 9:56 AM
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. . . . .
Huh?!
Thousands laid off at GM, it's dealerships closed, small-car production moved offshore to Brazil, and GM allowed to raid the healthcare fund of its pensioners? Who are you kidding? Workers, and their union, got SCREWED by the GM bankruptcy! Which was probably the whole idea all along.
Sure, the reaming of GM workers and pensioners might not be as bad as the deal Bush would have favored –– but then, freezing to death is not as bad as being boiled in oil, either. Some consolation.
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Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Jul 17, 2009 10:58 AM
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If he had said, We as a nation have to get serious about rebuilding our manufacturing sector because we need the things it produces, that would make some sense. But the way he states it is insulting to anyone who works for a living. He is apparently suggesting that we take resources we go to war for and generate waste and pollution we have to live with to make products that have no function other than to give the producers a job. That is, he thinks wasting people's time and talents is a good thing.
I don't. I don't think it is a good idea to pay people to make F22s, for instance, even though they provide "good middle-class jobs with good wages and good benefits." The Petagon says they don't need them! Why not pay the workers to stay home? It's probably not the ideal thing to do but it would be better than paying them to make F22s.
The same goes for a large portion of our current industrial output. We'd be better off without it but we "need the jobs." Bullshit. We need fuel-efficient buses and trains, for instance, and their manufacture should be justified by our need for buses and trains not the "jobs" created for the people that would make them. The fact that people would have to take time out of their lives to do the work is a negative, a cost rather than a benefit.
The cavalier disregard shown by the powers that be for the limited time that workers, like everyone else, have to spend on this planet leads me to believe that we could easily get by working 20 hours per week or less. If that is not the case I would appreciate it if someone could show me the flaw in my reasoning.
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Posted by: La Colombetta on Jul 17, 2009 11:27 AM
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This is exactly what happened to me at Apple, though it was for three years full time. They promised me again and again that they would hire me once they had 'head count.' When I got laid off, it was a nightmare. Because I was misclassified by Apple as self employed, I did not qualify for unemployment benefits. I was absolutely an employee, in every sense of the word. I did not have the freedom of an independent contractor.
Listen folks, this is actually a very serious issue. Do we all really want to be reduced to frightened ghosts of ourselves, not daring to stand up for our rights? If I work full time at an organization, and am being managed and told when to come in, you bet I want benefits. I want to be recognized as a lawful employee so that the government also regards me as such. I refuse to outsourced in my own country! Companies like Apple, FedEx and HP should be ashamed, but there is really not enough outrage in the public right now to change it anytime soon.
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Posted by: usedtobesupermom on Jul 17, 2009 11:41 AM
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The H1-B Visa program is 1 of about 10+ foreign worker visa programs!
This is happening even though Americans are losing jobs, close to half million each month.
Both Dems & Repubs. have even tried to INCREASE the visa numbers in recent months! That IS of course what the BIG corporations want, that being CHEAP LABOR!
Also their are about 8 MILLION ILLEGALS holding jobs, many that used to pay well.
see: NumbersUSA.com
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Posted by: PaulK on Jul 17, 2009 11:43 AM
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In other news, I have a slightly bent paper clip worth $2.4 billion. That brings the net assets in my pocket up to $2,400,000,020.37. The Bank of America has really benefited from legally being able to slap any value on its toxic mortgage assets that it wants. Oh, and the retirement funds holding B of A stock can see their total funds rise.
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I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
-Thomas Jefferson
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country....corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people UNTIL ALL WEALTH IS AGGREGATED in a FEW HANDS and the Republic is DESTROYED.
-Abraham Lincoln
Big business is not dangerous because it is big, but because its bigness is an UNWHOLESOME inflation created by PRIVILEGES and EXEMPTIONS which it ought NOT to enjoy.
-Woodrow Wilson
The citizens of the United States MUST control the mighty commercial forces which they themselves called into being.
-Theodore Roosevelt
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
-Dwight Eisenhower
I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but the people themselves- and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion.
-Thomas Jefferson
The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of PRIVATE POWER to a point where it becomes STRONGER THAN THEIR DEMOCRATIC STATE ITSELF. That, in its essence, is FASCISM- OWNERSHIP of government by an INDIVIDUAL, a GROUP, or by ANY OTHER CONTROLLING PRIVATE POWER.
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Posted by: La Colombetta on Jul 17, 2009 12:28 PM
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5 Million Ways To Kill A CEO lyrics by The Coup
{^1: "Yo, yo, yo, yo!"}
[Chorus: repeat 2X]
"We've got 5 million ways to kill a CEO
Slap him up and shake him up and then you know
Let him off the flo' then bait him with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco {^1} y'know how this go
[Boots]
Well I hope you testify that it was worth your waitin
On the turf debatin how to get it percolatin
He workin you while we happy just to work a day
But I'ma slap him 'til my blood starts circulatin {^1}
Do you checks have elasticity?
Did they cut off yo' 'lectricity?
Did you scream and yell explicitly?
Force the boss into complicity {^1}
I'm a white chalk stencil but I push a pencil
Rollin dope fiend rentals through your residential
Broke as fuck, eatin lentils with no utensil
Finna teach pimp class with a hoe credential {^1}
They own sweats shops, pet cops and fields of cola
Murder babies with they molars on the areola
Control the Pope, Dali Lama, Holy Rollers, and the Ayatollah
Bump this rollin {^1} in your bucket or your new Corolla
Well you might catch me on the scenic route, with my penis out
Yellin, "Twamps for the executives with the meanest mouth!"
Wanna know what this demeanor's bout? City tried to clean us out
Green is clout, shut 'em down {^1} they ain't never seen a drought
You interviewed but they ain't callin you back
And for the record I ain't called it a gat
But tuck this in the small of your back
Wait in the bathroom stall 'til I tap {^1}
[Boots]
'Cept this game ain't slow, it's the creeper
If you a janitor, get a street sweeper
Ugly is even skin deeper
If you can't get the Pres, get the VeePer {^1}
They made the murder scene before there was a coroner
I mighta been born here but I'm a foreigner
Spillin swigs for victims of pigs and Afeni's kid
Flip off the lid, who you {^1} pourin fo'?
You too could be a corporate green killer, bean spiller, uhh
"Gangster of Love" just like Steve Miller
They wear skivvies that's made of chinchilla
Factory in Mexico, bought {^1} a spring villa
I'm from the land where the Panthers grew
You know the city and the avenue
If you the boss we'll be smabbin through, and we'll be grabbin you
To say, "Whassup with the ra-venue?" {^1}
And if you feel it we can even try to seal it with the
[Chorus]
[Boots]
Tell him it's a boom in child prostitution
When he show up at the stroll give him lead restitution
You could throw a twenty in a vat 'o hot oil
When he jump in after it watch him boil {^1}
Toss a dollar in the river and when he jump in
If you can find he can swim
put lead boots on him and do it again! You and a friend
Videotape and the party don't end {^1}
Tell that boogers be sellin like crack
He gon' put the little baggies in his nose, and suffocate like that
Put a fifty in the barrel of a gun
When he try to suck it out, a-ha, well you {^1} know this one
Make sure you ain't got no priors
Don't tell 'em that we conspired
We could let him try to change a flat tire
Or we could all at once retire {^1}
There are just a few of the
Bay Area, get ready to brawl, Bay Area, are you ready to brawl?
L.A., get ready to brawl, L.A., are you ready to brawl? {^1}
Chi-town, get ready to brawl, Chi-Town, are you ready to brawl?
Detroit, get ready to brawl, Detroit, are you ready to brawl? {^1}
Atlanta, get ready to brawl, Atlanta, are you ready to brawl?
Houston, get ready to brawl..."
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Don't shop at Wal-Mart, or at least cut back to only those things that you cannot produce yourself.
Cease all interactions with corporate consumerist society. Drop out of the system...step by step.
If you work at a corporation, monkey-wrench them (work slow-downs, error creation, feed bad data into their databases, waste resources, undermine their mission).
Learn gardening. Learn to produce an ever-increasing percentage of the things you need (I'm working on this...its not easy but it is doable). Growing your own food is a political act.
dboy
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Posted by: zigy on Jul 23, 2009 6:04 PM
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Jul 24, 2009 11:38 AM
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I stopped buying that phony line a long time ago. This is all nothing but Rethug party politics. Nothing more. This fetus bullshit is nothing but fetus bullshit and Repug party politics.
They hate working people and families, then claim they love the fetus. If one hates people then one hates the fetus, because the fetus becomes a living person, eventually. And to them, the person is a liability, one who wants/needs wages and benefits.
And yet we're still supposed to buy this fetus loving fetish that Pat Robertson, the Pope, the Bush family and the entire GOP keep dishing out. Somebody ought to tell those people to get real, get a life and hit the road for parts unknown.
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Posted by: Shey on Jul 26, 2009 5:44 PM
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The first poster blames Israel (among others).
Then the ever vitriolic Naderbot jenniferbeddingford totally overlooks quotes from the book being discussed in the article (which obviously, neither she nor the other commenters actually read), in favor - as always - of pushing her single-issue bitter loser agenda.
The article states that (Steven Greenhouse, the author)
Applauds the current administration's renewed focus on enforcement, citing [Obama's new Labor secretary Hilda Sacs and her deputy Lorelei Boylen] as being "very serious about workplace laws bwing enforced".
And the quote that concludes the article: "But I think Obama's vision is, you've got to do right by the workers. There's been a recalibration, a rebalancing, a refocusing on workers' interests".
Then the last poster talks about fetuses!
I remember a time when the AlterNet comments section was a place for civilized discourse, amongst people who actually read the articles, rather than the pathetic forum for every fanatic with a single-issue agenda, that it's become.
What a shame.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Jul 17, 2009 2:29 AM
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 17, 2009 2:29 AM
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Jul 17, 2009 2:30 AM
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Just look at the stats. Over 90% of the total national debt accrued by the U.S. has been accrued by Repubs. 70% of the total accrued national debt was racked up by a Reagan or a Bush.
Imagine how rich America would be if there were no such thing as Republicans. The streets would be paved with gold. We'd all have yachts.
It's amazing--and gratifying--how quickly the dominant paradigm has done a 180-degree flip. Marx was right all along--and the Republicans were busily proving it. Republcans are tongue-tied because they can't talk about deregulation anymore. If they'd stayed in power a few more years, we'd all be voting communist by now.
Further evidence that Rush Limbaugh's Kidneys Are on Fire
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Jul 17, 2009 2:31 AM
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Posted by: Suzon on Jul 17, 2009 3:03 AM
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The corporation is based upon "entitlement", the "right" of the few to dominate the many--by any means, even the inhumane and criminal.
The corporation goes back at least to 1067 when William the Conquerer granted the first royal charter of his dynasty to the Corporation of the City of London, a financial Vatican.
Here is the final paragraph of a royal charter granted by King George VI:
And We do for Ourself Our Heirs and successors grant and declare that this Charter or the enrolment thereof shall be in all things valid and effectual in the law according to the true intent and meaning of the same and shall be recognised as valid and effectual by all Our Courts and Judges in our Dominions and by all other officers persons and bodies politic and corporate whom it doth concern and that the same shall be construed in the most favourable and beneficial sense and for the best advantage of the Association as well in all Our several Courts of Record in Our Dominions as elsewhere notwithstanding any non-recital or mis-recital uncertainty or imperfection in this Charter.
"Non-recital" is concealment. "Mis-recital" is deception. In plainer English, secrets and lies.
And whose charter was this? The Boy Scouts.
People are doing bad things because they can. The overprivileged corporation is the enemy of the people.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 17, 2009 3:46 AM
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There is a silver lining behind the dark clouds, People are beginning to wake up to the fact that the old economic ways of doing thinks in America are unsustainable. After reading this piece, I'm more hopeful than ever.
I gottta feelin' called the greens.
Fun with Dick and Liz
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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Posted by: mike_burns on Jul 17, 2009 3:46 AM
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Otherwise, workers are standing on blocks, waiting for corporate bidders. Only purchased slaves get housed and fed.
Will we ever see freedom?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 17, 2009 6:10 AM
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I see this action has since been repeated by others.
link
Extract
"FRUITY NUMBER
A big load of shit dumped outside Agrexco expressed exactly what activists feel about the Israeli agricultural export company. The truck load of horse manure was off-loaded at the front gate of Agrexco’s depot in Hayes, Middlesex, last Sunday (16th).
Agrexco fruit and veg are grown on illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank and are delivered to mainstream supermarkets in the UK, in breach of British, EU and international law. Britain represents a large market for the company, providing them with sixty percent of their foreign sales.
The action was part of an ongoing campaign against recurring violations of human rights and international law in the occupied territories of Palestine and to expose Agrexco’s illegal activity (See SchNEWS 649)."
I guess Americans are much too polite to do such things.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jul 17, 2009 6:48 AM
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The "free-markets" are only free to that small minority at the top! Reagan came in spouting "get the government off the backs of business" so that they could spread the wealth, what he neglected to mention is he was talking about "BIG BUSINESS"! Newt and the boys came in with their "CONTRACT ON AMERICA" and they weaved that web and deceived people into believing that the Congress was actually for middle America - that too was a lie!
Americans need to wake up and smell the coffee, unless your name is listed on that Forbes 500 Richest or your bank account has at least 9 zeros before the decimal point - you are not one of the people these folk are looking out for! Face it people this is about class, and most Americans are not in the one that is being protected! If that were the case, then the arrogant bunch that tanked the economy would be on trial and awaiting their jail sentences for defrauding the American people! Americans would do much better if we actually started thinking not on party lines but about the best for everyone - which means that we all must make some compromises! It also means that we must all take to the streets and demand our democracy back!
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Posted by: sharonsylvie on Jul 17, 2009 6:58 AM
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Posted by: Paul_C on Jul 17, 2009 7:39 AM
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Rather, it came on the backs of workers through a soaring increase in what is called "worker productivity".
But even that is not the "can do spirit" its name suggests, rather it reflects longer hours, both spouses working, loss of benefits and pensions, stagnant wages, loss of overtime and vacation time pay, loss of job security, piling on workloads as support staff are laid off, transitioning from full time to part time contract work, shipping jobs overseas to third world countries, breakup of unions, eroding workplace safety and ever poorer workplace conditions, and so on.
This is what is actually meant by a "Free Market", it is the freedom to exploit workers and appropriate their National Heritage, to cash in America for personal gain, to ship our entire industrial base to Communist China.
This country, if not ultimately all humanity, is lost as long as mega-corporations continue to dominate our government.
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Stell on Jul 17, 2009 8:09 AM
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'"There was so much focus on the wizards of Wall Street and the brilliant entrepreneurs of Silicon Valley, but very, very little attention paid to how the average worker was doing. I think the recession has gotten the nation to realize that things are really bad for millions and millions of average workers."'
UM, we ARE the average workers. We REALIZED this. YOU didn't, because you're a smug NYT reporter asshole.
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Posted by: L5 on Jul 17, 2009 8:43 AM
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Why have we let things get so out of control from what was originally intended?
As noted by Thom Hartman, from "Unequal Protection, The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights", here are some examples of our early laws regarding the regulation of corporations that now need to be revisited:
1.Corporations' licenses to do business were revocable by state legislatures if they exceeded or did not fulfill their chartered purposes.
2.The state legislature could revoke a corporation's charter if it misbehaved.
3. The act of incorporation did not relieve corporate management or stockholders/owners of responsibility or liability for corporate acts.
4. As a matter of course, corporation officers, directors or agents couldn't break the law and avoid punishment by claiming they were "just doing their job" when committing but instead could be held criminally liable for their crimes.
5. State, not federal courts heard cases where corporations or their agents were accused of breaking the law or harming the public.
6. Directors of corporations were required to come from among their stockholders.
7. Corporations had to have their headquarters and meetings in the state where their principle place of business was located
8. Corporation charters were granted for a specific period of time, like 20 or 30 years instead of being granted "in perpetuity" as is now the practice.
9. Corporations were prohibited from owning stock in other corporations in order to prevent them form extending their power inappropriately.
10. Corporations' real estate holdings were limited to what was necessary to carry out their specific purposes.
11. Corporations were prohibited from making any political contributions, directly or indirectly.
12. Corporations were prohibited from making charitable or civic donations outside of their specific purpose.
13. State legislatures could set the rates that monopoly corporations could charge for their products or services.
14. All corporation records and documents were open to the legislature or the state attorney general.
It is important to understand that tens of thousands of entrepreneurs did business in our early Colonies and continue to do so today without being incorporated – the proverbial butcher, baker and candlestick maker and many others. To do business in America or most of the world does not require a corporate structure – people can run partnerships, individual proprietorships or simply manufacture and sell products or offer services without any business structure whatsoever other than keeping track of the money for the IRS.
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Posted by: soozieq on Jul 17, 2009 9:01 AM
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Jul 17, 2009 9:06 AM
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What a goof!
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 17, 2009 9:32 AM
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. . . . .
Doesn't this move also shift legal liability for any on-the-job accidents that cause harm to others from the company to the drivers, even if said accidents were the result of company policies?
Am I off base here, or is this another "dirty little secret" of corporate irresponsibility that has not been talked about?
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 17, 2009 9:42 AM
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. . . . .
FINES?! Falsifying wage documents, the example given in the article (but certainly not the worst of what companies do) can be classified as fraud (and tax evasion for the withholding not supplied to the IRS.) The last that I remember, fraud and tax evasion are crimes, and felonies at that. How about PRISON for supervisors who engage is such practices, as well as for company executives who condone them?
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Posted by: weathered on Jul 17, 2009 9:48 AM
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For some greed is a selfish choice, for others its in their DNA.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 17, 2009 9:56 AM
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. . . . .
Huh?!
Thousands laid off at GM, it's dealerships closed, small-car production moved offshore to Brazil, and GM allowed to raid the healthcare fund of its pensioners? Who are you kidding? Workers, and their union, got SCREWED by the GM bankruptcy! Which was probably the whole idea all along.
Sure, the reaming of GM workers and pensioners might not be as bad as the deal Bush would have favored –– but then, freezing to death is not as bad as being boiled in oil, either. Some consolation.
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Posted by: tommy_slothrop on Jul 17, 2009 10:58 AM
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If he had said, We as a nation have to get serious about rebuilding our manufacturing sector because we need the things it produces, that would make some sense. But the way he states it is insulting to anyone who works for a living. He is apparently suggesting that we take resources we go to war for and generate waste and pollution we have to live with to make products that have no function other than to give the producers a job. That is, he thinks wasting people's time and talents is a good thing.
I don't. I don't think it is a good idea to pay people to make F22s, for instance, even though they provide "good middle-class jobs with good wages and good benefits." The Petagon says they don't need them! Why not pay the workers to stay home? It's probably not the ideal thing to do but it would be better than paying them to make F22s.
The same goes for a large portion of our current industrial output. We'd be better off without it but we "need the jobs." Bullshit. We need fuel-efficient buses and trains, for instance, and their manufacture should be justified by our need for buses and trains not the "jobs" created for the people that would make them. The fact that people would have to take time out of their lives to do the work is a negative, a cost rather than a benefit.
The cavalier disregard shown by the powers that be for the limited time that workers, like everyone else, have to spend on this planet leads me to believe that we could easily get by working 20 hours per week or less. If that is not the case I would appreciate it if someone could show me the flaw in my reasoning.
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Posted by: La Colombetta on Jul 17, 2009 11:27 AM
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This is exactly what happened to me at Apple, though it was for three years full time. They promised me again and again that they would hire me once they had 'head count.' When I got laid off, it was a nightmare. Because I was misclassified by Apple as self employed, I did not qualify for unemployment benefits. I was absolutely an employee, in every sense of the word. I did not have the freedom of an independent contractor.
Listen folks, this is actually a very serious issue. Do we all really want to be reduced to frightened ghosts of ourselves, not daring to stand up for our rights? If I work full time at an organization, and am being managed and told when to come in, you bet I want benefits. I want to be recognized as a lawful employee so that the government also regards me as such. I refuse to outsourced in my own country! Companies like Apple, FedEx and HP should be ashamed, but there is really not enough outrage in the public right now to change it anytime soon.
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Posted by: usedtobesupermom on Jul 17, 2009 11:41 AM
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The H1-B Visa program is 1 of about 10+ foreign worker visa programs!
This is happening even though Americans are losing jobs, close to half million each month.
Both Dems & Repubs. have even tried to INCREASE the visa numbers in recent months! That IS of course what the BIG corporations want, that being CHEAP LABOR!
Also their are about 8 MILLION ILLEGALS holding jobs, many that used to pay well.
see: NumbersUSA.com
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Posted by: PaulK on Jul 17, 2009 11:43 AM
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In other news, I have a slightly bent paper clip worth $2.4 billion. That brings the net assets in my pocket up to $2,400,000,020.37. The Bank of America has really benefited from legally being able to slap any value on its toxic mortgage assets that it wants. Oh, and the retirement funds holding B of A stock can see their total funds rise.
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I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
-Thomas Jefferson
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country....corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people UNTIL ALL WEALTH IS AGGREGATED in a FEW HANDS and the Republic is DESTROYED.
-Abraham Lincoln
Big business is not dangerous because it is big, but because its bigness is an UNWHOLESOME inflation created by PRIVILEGES and EXEMPTIONS which it ought NOT to enjoy.
-Woodrow Wilson
The citizens of the United States MUST control the mighty commercial forces which they themselves called into being.
-Theodore Roosevelt
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
-Dwight Eisenhower
I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of society but the people themselves- and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them, but to inform their discretion.
-Thomas Jefferson
The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of PRIVATE POWER to a point where it becomes STRONGER THAN THEIR DEMOCRATIC STATE ITSELF. That, in its essence, is FASCISM- OWNERSHIP of government by an INDIVIDUAL, a GROUP, or by ANY OTHER CONTROLLING PRIVATE POWER.
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Posted by: La Colombetta on Jul 17, 2009 12:28 PM
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5 Million Ways To Kill A CEO lyrics by The Coup
{^1: "Yo, yo, yo, yo!"}
[Chorus: repeat 2X]
"We've got 5 million ways to kill a CEO
Slap him up and shake him up and then you know
Let him off the flo' then bait him with the dough
You can do it funk or do it disco {^1} y'know how this go
[Boots]
Well I hope you testify that it was worth your waitin
On the turf debatin how to get it percolatin
He workin you while we happy just to work a day
But I'ma slap him 'til my blood starts circulatin {^1}
Do you checks have elasticity?
Did they cut off yo' 'lectricity?
Did you scream and yell explicitly?
Force the boss into complicity {^1}
I'm a white chalk stencil but I push a pencil
Rollin dope fiend rentals through your residential
Broke as fuck, eatin lentils with no utensil
Finna teach pimp class with a hoe credential {^1}
They own sweats shops, pet cops and fields of cola
Murder babies with they molars on the areola
Control the Pope, Dali Lama, Holy Rollers, and the Ayatollah
Bump this rollin {^1} in your bucket or your new Corolla
Well you might catch me on the scenic route, with my penis out
Yellin, "Twamps for the executives with the meanest mouth!"
Wanna know what this demeanor's bout? City tried to clean us out
Green is clout, shut 'em down {^1} they ain't never seen a drought
You interviewed but they ain't callin you back
And for the record I ain't called it a gat
But tuck this in the small of your back
Wait in the bathroom stall 'til I tap {^1}
[Boots]
'Cept this game ain't slow, it's the creeper
If you a janitor, get a street sweeper
Ugly is even skin deeper
If you can't get the Pres, get the VeePer {^1}
They made the murder scene before there was a coroner
I mighta been born here but I'm a foreigner
Spillin swigs for victims of pigs and Afeni's kid
Flip off the lid, who you {^1} pourin fo'?
You too could be a corporate green killer, bean spiller, uhh
"Gangster of Love" just like Steve Miller
They wear skivvies that's made of chinchilla
Factory in Mexico, bought {^1} a spring villa
I'm from the land where the Panthers grew
You know the city and the avenue
If you the boss we'll be smabbin through, and we'll be grabbin you
To say, "Whassup with the ra-venue?" {^1}
And if you feel it we can even try to seal it with the
[Chorus]
[Boots]
Tell him it's a boom in child prostitution
When he show up at the stroll give him lead restitution
You could throw a twenty in a vat 'o hot oil
When he jump in after it watch him boil {^1}
Toss a dollar in the river and when he jump in
If you can find he can swim
put lead boots on him and do it again! You and a friend
Videotape and the party don't end {^1}
Tell that boogers be sellin like crack
He gon' put the little baggies in his nose, and suffocate like that
Put a fifty in the barrel of a gun
When he try to suck it out, a-ha, well you {^1} know this one
Make sure you ain't got no priors
Don't tell 'em that we conspired
We could let him try to change a flat tire
Or we could all at once retire {^1}
There are just a few of the
Bay Area, get ready to brawl, Bay Area, are you ready to brawl?
L.A., get ready to brawl, L.A., are you ready to brawl? {^1}
Chi-town, get ready to brawl, Chi-Town, are you ready to brawl?
Detroit, get ready to brawl, Detroit, are you ready to brawl? {^1}
Atlanta, get ready to brawl, Atlanta, are you ready to brawl?
Houston, get ready to brawl..."
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Posted by: Dboy on Jul 18, 2009 4:02 PM
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Don't shop at Wal-Mart, or at least cut back to only those things that you cannot produce yourself.
Cease all interactions with corporate consumerist society. Drop out of the system...step by step.
If you work at a corporation, monkey-wrench them (work slow-downs, error creation, feed bad data into their databases, waste resources, undermine their mission).
Learn gardening. Learn to produce an ever-increasing percentage of the things you need (I'm working on this...its not easy but it is doable). Growing your own food is a political act.
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Posted by: itouch backup on Jul 21, 2009 8:48 PM
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Posted by: zigy on Jul 23, 2009 6:04 PM
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Posted by: bobtr900 on Jul 24, 2009 11:38 AM
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I stopped buying that phony line a long time ago. This is all nothing but Rethug party politics. Nothing more. This fetus bullshit is nothing but fetus bullshit and Repug party politics.
They hate working people and families, then claim they love the fetus. If one hates people then one hates the fetus, because the fetus becomes a living person, eventually. And to them, the person is a liability, one who wants/needs wages and benefits.
And yet we're still supposed to buy this fetus loving fetish that Pat Robertson, the Pope, the Bush family and the entire GOP keep dishing out. Somebody ought to tell those people to get real, get a life and hit the road for parts unknown.
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Posted by: Shey on Jul 26, 2009 5:44 PM
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The first poster blames Israel (among others).
Then the ever vitriolic Naderbot jenniferbeddingford totally overlooks quotes from the book being discussed in the article (which obviously, neither she nor the other commenters actually read), in favor - as always - of pushing her single-issue bitter loser agenda.
The article states that (Steven Greenhouse, the author)
Applauds the current administration's renewed focus on enforcement, citing [Obama's new Labor secretary Hilda Sacs and her deputy Lorelei Boylen] as being "very serious about workplace laws bwing enforced".
And the quote that concludes the article: "But I think Obama's vision is, you've got to do right by the workers. There's been a recalibration, a rebalancing, a refocusing on workers' interests".
Then the last poster talks about fetuses!
I remember a time when the AlterNet comments section was a place for civilized discourse, amongst people who actually read the articles, rather than the pathetic forum for every fanatic with a single-issue agenda, that it's become.
What a shame.
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