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10 Commandments of the Anti-Christ: Mysterious "Guidestones" Madden Conspiracy Theorists and Christian Fundamentalists
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Back in April, Wired magazine published a story on the history of a strange monument in rural Elberton, Georgia ("granite capital of the world") known as the Georgia Guidestones. The monument consists of four 16-foot-high slabs of granite arranged around a central column and topped with a capstone weighing 25,000 pounds. Carved onto the face of each slab is a list of ten precepts for creating a better society, written in eight modern languages. On the four sides of the capstone are written the words, "Let These Be Guidestones to An Age of Reason" in Sanskrit, Babylonian cuneiform, Classical Greek, and Egyptian hieroglyphs. The central column and capstone are also equipped with holes, astronomically aligned so that the Guidestones can serve as a compass and clock.
The popular consensus is that these stones were meant to survive a global apocalypse and aid survivors in creating a new, enlightened society. Unveiled in 1980, and built by an unknown party, the monument has stood for nearly thirty years outside of town, attracting the curious to Elberton. However, in the last ten years the Guidestones have garnered the attention of conspiracy theorists, who see their message as anti-Christian and a call for a global government. This new reading of the Guidestones ultimately led vandals to deface the monument sometime in December 2008.
The official story of the Guidestones’ origin is that Joe Fendley Sr., president of the Elberton Finishing Company, was contacted in 1979 by one "Robert C. Christian" to commission a monument. Christian was a pseudonym used by someone representing "a small group of loyal Americans who believe in God." Fendley has since died, but Randall Sullivan of Wired interviewed Wyatt Martin, the president of Granite City Bank and the only living man who allegedly met Christian. As the project’s banker, Martin allegedly learned Christian’s true name but will not reveal it. Martin claims he received letters and phone calls from Christian until "around the time of the 9/11 terrorist attacks" and assumes Christian is dead; though some believe Christian never existed. While construction was still underway, Martin and Fendley were accused of perpetuating a hoax, either out of amusement or to promote Fendley’s business. Both men took lie detector tests, which they passed. Sullivan suggests that the hoax rumor may have come from rival granite workers.
According to Jim Miles (author of Weird Georgia), shortly after the Guidestones were unveiled, a local minister stated his suspicion that "Mr. Christian is not a Christian" and that the monument was designed for the worship of the sun as well as the devil. Contemporary Pagans, UFO buffs, and New Agers were naturally attracted by the mystery of the site. New myths were created that the monument was built upon a "power-nexus" or a place sacred to Native Americans. One legend holds that visitors who point both arms at the monument (one palm up, one palm down) will receive a psychic message from the stones. Another Guidestone admirer, Yoko Ono, composed a three-movement score entitled "Georgia Stone."
In 2000, Dr. Reagan R. Davis, a Christian minister, visited the stones and concluded that the Guidestones may well describe the ten commandments of the Antichrist. Particularly upsetting were the precepts to "Maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature," "Guide reproduction wisely encouraging fitness and diversity," and "Let all nations rule internally, resolving external disputes in a world court." Davis interpreted these messages as a call for a world government, a policy of state-sponsored eugenics, and the culling of billions of people. This new interpretation elevated the Guidestones from mere local curiosity to the subject of national notoriety among conspiracy theorists and Christian dispensationalists.
Conspiracy buffs were quick to point out the similarities between the pseudonym "R.C. Christian" and Christian Rosenkreuz, the legendary founder of the esoteric Rosicrucian Order. (Documents attributed to Rosenkreuz were signed "Frater C.R.C."). Christians added that The Age of Reason is also the title of a book by Thomas Paine, which challenges the inerrancy of the Bible. Through numerous Web sites and talk radio programs, a narrative eventually emerged in which the Guidestones (along with ancient esoteric societies like the Masons, eugenics, perceived anti-Christian hostility, and globalization) were all part of a single monolithic entity known as the "New World Order."
The goal of the New World Order is the creation of a single world government and the destruction of national sovereignty and religion. A significant number of Christian dispensationalists subscribe to this view and believe that the New World Order was foretold in the Book of Revelation. In 2005, Mark Dice (using the pseudonym "John Connor" in reference to the Terminator film franchise) organized a Christian group opposed to the New World Order called "The Resistance" and began a campaign to have the monument destroyed. In 2007, radio personality and filmmaker Alex Jones released a documentary entitled Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement, outlining a plan by the Bilderberg group and other global elites to exterminate eighty percent of humanity. The Georgia Guidestones are cited as primary evidence of this plot.
The call of The Resistance was eventually answered with an attack on the stones by vandals who used a can of red spray-paint to write messages such as, "The elite want 80% of us dead," "9-11 inside job," "Obama iz a Muslim," and "Council on Foreign Relations is ran by the Devil." The stones were also splashed with polyurethane, which is especially difficult to remove. The vandalism has been celebrated on numerous Web sites discussing the New World Order’s agenda; with only a few dissenting voices pointing out that any assault on free speech, even the free speech of an anonymous cabal, threatens the rights of all. The vandalism of the Guidestones seems to be a classic case of an eccentric and lofty idea under assault by the hoi polloi. In fact, a letter from the monument’s benefactors printed by the Elberton Granite Finishing Company predicted just such a scenario. They ask that the people of Elberton County restore the stones should they be "scattered by people of little understanding."
The short history of the Guidestones has parallels with the history of other mysterious messages and prophesies. It seems plausible that whoever invented the name "R. C. Christian" -- be this an actual cabal or Fendley and Martin -- had some knowledge of Rosicrucianism. (Fendley was active in the local Shrine Club where he could have been exposed to Rosicrucian lore.) There are interesting similarities between the Guidestones and the origin of the Rosicrucian legend.
A European preoccupation with the mysterious Rosicrucian order began in Germany with the appearance of two anonymous documents in the early 17th century: Fama Fraternitatis and Confessio Fraternitatis. Clearly someone wrote these documents although, much like the Guidestones, there is little evidence to determine whether these messages were a legitimate manifesto from a secret brotherhood or an elaborate hoax. But regardless of their origin, the excitement generated in the wake of anonymous messages is very real. Numerous modern esoteric groups claim a connection to the Rosicrucians just as conspiracy theorists regard the Guidestones as vital evidence of a demonic globalist agenda.
Another interesting parallel can be drawn between the Guidestones and the Book of Revelation. Both are texts of little-known origin warning of future peril. These conditions allow for historical-critical as well as dispensationalist readings of both messages. Scholars believe the Book of Revelation was written sometime in the first century and is a warning to early Christians not to conform to the evils of Greco-Roman society. Although the Guidestones were constructed relatively recently, they too have a historical context. The letter from the Guidestones’ benefactors describes the problem of global overpopulation and warns that, "Armageddon can be prevented."
Whoever planned the monument in 1979 most likely imagined that Armageddon would take the form of nuclear war with the Soviet Union. "R.C. Christian" could not possibly have predicted the events referenced by the vandals, such as the attacks of September 11 or the election of Barack Obama. But Dice, and others like him, read the Guidestones much as they read the Book of Revelation: not as historical artifacts but as important clues to understanding current events. Stripping the messages of their historical contexts allows them to converge, so that they mutually confirm a dualistic cosmology in which Christians must battle the New World Order. Thus, evidence of the New World Order’s unfolding plot can be found both in the Book of Revelation and in the Georgia Guidestones. Likewise, Dice’s use of the pseudonym "John Connor" is very telling. Like the character in Terminator, he likely sees himself as one who knows the future and is fighting to prevent it from happening.
The history of the Guidestones is ultimately an interesting study in the heterogeneous nature of symbols. To build something so extraordinary with so little explanation created a vacuum of meaning. Much like the Guidestones’ inspiration, Stonehenge, this caused new meanings to be invented. The Guidestones are essentially a spiritual and political Rorschach test onto which any number of ideas can be imposed. Pagans and New Agers created new myths and rituals, imbuing the stones with sacred reverence. For others, the monument is not the marker of a sacred space but the evidence of a demonic plot. Should the Guidestones survive for centuries as their creators intended, many more meanings could arise, equally unrelated to the designer’s original intention.
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Posted by: teddy on Jul 6, 2009 1:22 AM
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There are no parallels, no correlations, just references and allusions, shop-worn eschatological cliches. This thing isn't the Monolith from Space Odyssey 2001, nor is it Stonehenge.
There is nothing here except a hobby horse. Some private person or group with more money than sense had a clever idea of putting this thing up in the middle of a field and plastering their half-baked fantasy scenarios all over it in imitation of Moses' tablets - anybody ever find those, BTW???
Did you check the other "languages" for content and accuracy?
There's a much better, more meaningful "henge" in a field in southern Ontario - made of wrecked cars. Now, that actually means something.
That someone even bothered to vandalize this thing is laughable. This is what happens when you dismantle the education system and let religious wack-jobs run the wreckage.
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Posted by: billslm on Jul 6, 2009 2:31 AM
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I was a bit impatient with the writer of this article who kept throwing the word eugenics onto the page in such a way that it might have been like a wink, to let us know we were not to actually like this idea of the stones in Georgia.
Personally, I hope the stones survive the monkey people and the plain spoken wisdom they contain is always understood as such.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Jul 6, 2009 2:43 AM
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They should read Paramahansa Yogananda who clearly said no end of the world is going to come, and his guru, Sri Yukteswar, who predicted scientific discoveries along the next few thousand years. Still, there will be more people who will continue playing science fiction and bringing it into their lives, with disastrous results. I can only thing they live such a boring life that they need a cosmic event to make it interesting.
I wonder how many things and people have been interpreted to be anti-Christ, surely many dozen, probably hundreds. To me it is simple, if Christ is love and union, anti-Christ must be hate, separation, ego and selfishness, just the opposite.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Jul 6, 2009 4:46 AM
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If it had not been for these men of Enlightened Reason we would have never become the United States. They waged a war to free average prople from the tyranny of Monarchial and Religious Rule.
In fact Folks much of our US Constitution was lifted from the Free Masons Constitution.
Let's be realistic here for a moment- there is no way the United States can be the Beacon of Hope for all Humanity- geopgraphically it is Impossible. So what is the next best option- to encourage peoples of other lands to seek the 'hope' in their own countries. So it is no wonder, or conspiracy, that the Hope of Our Foudners is that all Humanity would seek to enjoy "Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" . A beacon does not always guide 'voyagers' into a particular place- but is used to guide them on their journey.
As for the Chrisitan Zealots who are HELL Bent on returning US to Religious Oppression- perhaps they would find others of like mindness if the Middle East. I see no difference between the 'christian warriors of God' and the Jihadist- Both fervant advocates of 'Guns and God'- How oxymoronic, "'Thou Shall Not Kill"- No (*) stating "Except when in the Name of God"!! Nor our We a 'Christian Nation'- God is not the Sole property of any Religion. And to equate God to any mortal 'scared Cow' is Blashpemy- 'One and ONLY One True Lord our God'. Jesus is NOT Lord. He was either just 'the Son' or the Fleshy Vessel, the physical manifestation, not the true Essence of What God IS.
As an American and a person who reveres the mystical existence of 'the Unknowable', thus undefineable, I hail Our Founders and the ideas of the Free Masons.Thank God for the vision of the Free Masons and this Great Country, The Beacon of Hope and inspiration for All Humanity!
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Posted by: teritenn on Jul 6, 2009 5:34 AM
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Yes, the world is over populated and natural resouces are being distroyed. Controlling human breeding to only the fit would indeed help everyone.
Stop wars and let a world government decide disputes. Who would not be in favor of stopping all wars?
These is a wonderful message of truth.
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Posted by: mtcloud on Jul 6, 2009 5:43 AM
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Hmmm, this a great, unbiased, objective informational article header, isn't it? From reading this article header what do you think the author and Alternet are trying to put across to you, to convince you of? What do they want you to THINK about Conspiracy Informationalists and Christian Fundamentalists?
Do you at all wonder why Alternet continues such a concerted, focused effort to discredit, ridicule and keep your mind away from "conspiracy informationalist's" just like the corporate, mainstream, media state?
Because it is the corporate mainstream media state.
-Notice How Alternet Once Again Portrays anyone who does not agree with Alternet Corporate Indoctrination & Propaganda As
-A "Theorist" (They come not from "theory" but from rock solid facts, research and information)
-Being on the "Fringe"(They are in the accepted "inside". Credible, sane and calm. When you blindly agree with this article, YOU ARE TOO!) Join in the "popular consensus", yeah!
-Conspiracy Informationalists "Madden" easily. Emotionally unstable. They dont' come from rational thought at all!
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The corporate media state still covers up 9/11 truth.
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Posted by: Parcival01 on Jul 6, 2009 7:38 AM
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Then I saw this article. I looked up these stones on the web. C'mon, look it up. If that isn't an innocuous "monument," I don't know what is! And if you want to be particularly amused, look on a web page called Disclose.tv, subtitled, "truth revealed." There's a short video on that evil messages of the Georgia stones, connecting them with heaven only knows who.
Yep, times may be hard, but we Yanks still have a lot of spare time on our hands.
Whoever decided to put this thing together was brilliant. If they had announced that, "Hey, I'm gonna put up a monument with some of my suggestions for the future on it," no one would care. It'd today be a weed-infested pile of stones. But whoever did it did so without announcing it, thereby adding an air of mystery. So they must have been in on the Kennedy assassination, huh? And in on Bob Marley's death. Wait...and maybe Michael Jackson's too!!!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 6, 2009 8:29 AM
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The fact of the matter is that the World is drowning in a sea of Evil and Lies. Alternet should be publishing articles from writers who spell out this aweful reality in an elegant and coherent fashion.
One such writer is Angie Riedel of California.
Intellectual Violence
Here is an excerpt
"We're living in a society which, at this moment in time, is being controlled and dominated by people who have no respect for others. By people who by the very nature of how they think and act are criminals. There's no wiggle room here, it's quite simple when you stop to remember that the essence of crime is depriving others of their free will and their right to act in their own best interests. Those who dominate our reality right now are master liars, and the damage they are perpetrating has no historical equivalent in this country. The destruction they're wreaking is total and we're only beginning to see the tip of the iceberg. By the time they're done there won't be much left standing, and a whole lot of people are going to suffer, and a whole lot of people are going to die. You tell me what's not criminal about that. Everything about it is criminal.
These controllers have managed to get a dominant foothold into every major aspect of society. The justice system, the departments of government, the church, public and higher education have all been infiltrated and are in the process of being ideologically raped. They own and control the media and they do this with the specific purpose of being able to withhold the truth about themselves and what they do, what they want and how they're getting what they want, from the public. You can't even buy TV time today if you have a different perspective than the one they want to dominate the public consciousness with. They can't afford the truth going out to the people because they know the people would never agree to go along with them. Therefore, they either have to shoot us all, which simply isn't possible, or they have to violate our consciousness with an endless stream of lies to make us want to go along with them. And they're experts at this. And we pay them to do it and they use our money to do it to us.
Every aspect of how they operate is an insult and a violation of the public's right to choose in their own behalf. We can no longer make appropriate choices because we no longer have access to all of the information, to truth, or to all of the sides to any story. All we will ever hear again as long as the media laws stay the same is only what they want us to hear.
We have only to look around us to gauge the numbers of innocent people dying both here and abroad to get an accurate idea of just how much evil has managed to insinuate itself into our minds and lives. We have only to witness the metamorphosis of ordinary men who once upheld our laws to protect us, into militarized, soulless, dishonest inhuman robot killers and thugs to recognize that evil is transforming our society from its very roots and defining principles into its exact mirror opposite. We are being turned into everything we claim to hate and would risk our lives to fight against, and we no longer seem capable of recognizing it."
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I read about it on Saturday night when there isn't anything more interesting going on.
Conspiracy theories are fun!
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Jul 6, 2009 10:55 AM
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Hitler & his war machine were groomed, cultivate, & funded by those still trying to pull the strings today: the Elite/Illuminati/NWO/globalists!
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Posted by: SufiLizard on Jul 6, 2009 11:37 AM
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Revelations was simply a virulent anti-Roman tract and NOT some prophetic vision of the future.
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» god, i wish you christians would read your damn book!
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Posted by: caru on Jul 6, 2009 12:27 PM
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look around you, we cannot believe it to be true, so we miss all the signs. the truth is, even the global elite cannot control everything.
watch this and then decide.
endgame on youtube
check out the facts, check out the mainstream news adn add it all up.
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» no there won't be enough nurses around to wipe my bum when I am 100 years old
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» Nowhere in this piece does it advocate extermination!
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» the stone says 500 mill not 6 bill
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Posted by: thisizrob on Jul 6, 2009 2:24 PM
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The idea of discrediting the Bible has been a long historical fact. The "Secret Rapturists" have followed this idea which was inaugurated originally from a total distortion of sound historically based assessment of the prophesies stated in Daniel and Revelation. Daniel was written over 500 years BC and Revelation under 100 years AD These two Books need to be referenced together and with HISTORY (non doctored) to get the full picture.
The whole of the Prophetic scenarios are about Religion because of the fact it mentions "Worship" which MUST have connotations towards a religious situation. Unfortunately, most do not see themselves as being involved in a hoax and will do anything to get the monkey off their back. Martin Luther pinpointed who the Anti Christ was and the Protestant Reformation was under way. The organisation that he pointed at took up the challenge to get the monkey off their back and started a counter reformation. If one really gets down to the nitty gritty they will find, simply by observing what the so called reformed now believe and you will find that the original Reformation almost no longer exists, but the Counter Reformation dogmas are right through nearly ALL the beliefs of the Religious right.
Really, what we are looking at today is almost total confusion and in my opinion, yes, its only my opinion, I think that there are a lot of thinking people today who are questioning the rot. They do not know the answers but they can see the crapp being put forward and they are questioning it, RIGHTLY so.
To get people from seeing what you are doing, create a diversion and then create disbelief in that which shows up your nefarious acts. Get everyone thinking that the reality is just some religious bashing junk. Cast doubt on it and push the diversion agenda so that people will become so confused that they will throw everything overboard and then be caught up in the disaster and not look for the real truth. Got to admit it though, they are doing a very fine job. They have everyone fighting amongst themselves and certainly NOT looking at the real perpetrators of the false religiosity. It is a very big war that is going on. The war between Good and Evil. We are all involved whether we like it or not and each has to make their own decision as to what they are going to believe. Getting the facts can be quite daunting as so much rigging of history is done that it is sometimes hard to determine what is fact and what is fiction.
You be the judge. I do not have space to lay it all out for you but do suggest that you get a proper understanding of Biblical Prophecy and be able to determine what Revelation 13 is specifically about and you will find that things do become quite easy to understand as to where we are in History. We are in the middle of Rev 13's full blast and we do not even know it and they do not want you to know it either. Better control if you don't know. Religious domination is the final downfall of man (and woman). If you want to have the full blast of the false religion land on your shoulders, just get the facts and then start pointing them out and you will get all the persecution you can muster. They will do their darndest to make you look a fool and discredit you.
This whole story is about diversion. Seems its working quite well. The Anti Christ will be one who proclaims themselves as the Christ and they will be espousing much of the works of Christ. They will NOT appear to be opposing Christ but supposedly supporting Him. Now WHO would do something like that? They have to be a large authoritative religious group to have credibility to be able to carry it off without being suspected. They do it very well.
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This kind of stuff is not just from the Deep South; some of the looniest material showing up on townhall is from Nevada, Arizona, and Indiana. But (although right-wing websites are certainly a skewed information source) my sense of this is that liberals don't really grasp how much clinical paranoia infests our fair land. Just about anything Obama says gets translated into a huge threat. A call to community service (eg drive for Meals on Wheels or the American Cancer Society)became "indentured servitude". A call for a youth service corps (VISTA, Peace Corps) became a Hitler Youth Corps. A call for free universal preschool became "indoctrination of our children to Socialism and homosexuality". And of course the NRA has abetted the expectation that Obama will send, any day now, his Black Militant Thug Corps into American home to seize guns. For more, google "brownshirts", a favorite term.
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Where the heck does he think the roots of _his own_ religion lie?
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have you noticed how NOT CHRISTIAN their beliefs are becoming?
its all pagan.
its all the most bullshit 'theology' wrapped up in a mish-mash of bad logic & un-educated faith & magic.
with just a souçon of White Supremacy or colonialism
they should be ashamed of themselves.
but then, that's why they're engaging in such bullshit in the first place.
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What kind of crap is this and why do people believe in it?
Who financed this stuff?
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Nation About Due For Big Cult Suicide
This just proves that there's side show freaks and wannabes galore within the mindset of the herd some call humanity
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The underlying message of these ten things is that the world can get along just fine without our interference. I say we give mother earth a break, and take a step back. Use condoms. Get Vasectomies. Don't have children. We've broken our poor, defiled little planet, and she's begging us to scale ourselves back, but we just ignore her crying and keep on raping her until the cops (environmental disaster) show up.
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1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
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1…address leaving a girl to die in 4 feet of water while he made CYA calls
2…address his reputation for fornication and drunkenness
3…address his long support for homosexual marriage
4…address his long support for secular legislation
5…address his long support for unrestricted abortion (stopping heartbeats)
6…address his support for unrestricted stem cell research
7…address his long support from Planned Parenthood and other secular abortionist groups
8…address his long support of anti-family anti-prayer legislation (and/or failure to speak out)
This man is not only physically sick but a moral midget, a serial liar and a repulsive secular socialist.
Left to me…him, Pelosi and Kerry would have been excommunicated from the Catholic Church a decade ago.
Suppose they were Jewish, denied the holocaust and espoused for decades the “Jews For Jesus” movement…
all the while pretending they follow the Jewish faith policy…as they see fit…same thing.
Liberals are the best pretenders and liars. So much disgusting practice.
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There are no parallels, no correlations, just references and allusions, shop-worn eschatological cliches. This thing isn't the Monolith from Space Odyssey 2001, nor is it Stonehenge.
There is nothing here except a hobby horse. Some private person or group with more money than sense had a clever idea of putting this thing up in the middle of a field and plastering their half-baked fantasy scenarios all over it in imitation of Moses' tablets - anybody ever find those, BTW???
Did you check the other "languages" for content and accuracy?
There's a much better, more meaningful "henge" in a field in southern Ontario - made of wrecked cars. Now, that actually means something.
That someone even bothered to vandalize this thing is laughable. This is what happens when you dismantle the education system and let religious wack-jobs run the wreckage.
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I was a bit impatient with the writer of this article who kept throwing the word eugenics onto the page in such a way that it might have been like a wink, to let us know we were not to actually like this idea of the stones in Georgia.
Personally, I hope the stones survive the monkey people and the plain spoken wisdom they contain is always understood as such.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Jul 6, 2009 2:43 AM
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They should read Paramahansa Yogananda who clearly said no end of the world is going to come, and his guru, Sri Yukteswar, who predicted scientific discoveries along the next few thousand years. Still, there will be more people who will continue playing science fiction and bringing it into their lives, with disastrous results. I can only thing they live such a boring life that they need a cosmic event to make it interesting.
I wonder how many things and people have been interpreted to be anti-Christ, surely many dozen, probably hundreds. To me it is simple, if Christ is love and union, anti-Christ must be hate, separation, ego and selfishness, just the opposite.
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2008/12/11/georgia-guidestones-vandalized/
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Jul 6, 2009 4:46 AM
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If it had not been for these men of Enlightened Reason we would have never become the United States. They waged a war to free average prople from the tyranny of Monarchial and Religious Rule.
In fact Folks much of our US Constitution was lifted from the Free Masons Constitution.
Let's be realistic here for a moment- there is no way the United States can be the Beacon of Hope for all Humanity- geopgraphically it is Impossible. So what is the next best option- to encourage peoples of other lands to seek the 'hope' in their own countries. So it is no wonder, or conspiracy, that the Hope of Our Foudners is that all Humanity would seek to enjoy "Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" . A beacon does not always guide 'voyagers' into a particular place- but is used to guide them on their journey.
As for the Chrisitan Zealots who are HELL Bent on returning US to Religious Oppression- perhaps they would find others of like mindness if the Middle East. I see no difference between the 'christian warriors of God' and the Jihadist- Both fervant advocates of 'Guns and God'- How oxymoronic, "'Thou Shall Not Kill"- No (*) stating "Except when in the Name of God"!! Nor our We a 'Christian Nation'- God is not the Sole property of any Religion. And to equate God to any mortal 'scared Cow' is Blashpemy- 'One and ONLY One True Lord our God'. Jesus is NOT Lord. He was either just 'the Son' or the Fleshy Vessel, the physical manifestation, not the true Essence of What God IS.
As an American and a person who reveres the mystical existence of 'the Unknowable', thus undefineable, I hail Our Founders and the ideas of the Free Masons.Thank God for the vision of the Free Masons and this Great Country, The Beacon of Hope and inspiration for All Humanity!
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Yes, the world is over populated and natural resouces are being distroyed. Controlling human breeding to only the fit would indeed help everyone.
Stop wars and let a world government decide disputes. Who would not be in favor of stopping all wars?
These is a wonderful message of truth.
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Posted by: mtcloud on Jul 6, 2009 5:43 AM
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Hmmm, this a great, unbiased, objective informational article header, isn't it? From reading this article header what do you think the author and Alternet are trying to put across to you, to convince you of? What do they want you to THINK about Conspiracy Informationalists and Christian Fundamentalists?
Do you at all wonder why Alternet continues such a concerted, focused effort to discredit, ridicule and keep your mind away from "conspiracy informationalist's" just like the corporate, mainstream, media state?
Because it is the corporate mainstream media state.
-Notice How Alternet Once Again Portrays anyone who does not agree with Alternet Corporate Indoctrination & Propaganda As
-A "Theorist" (They come not from "theory" but from rock solid facts, research and information)
-Being on the "Fringe"(They are in the accepted "inside". Credible, sane and calm. When you blindly agree with this article, YOU ARE TOO!) Join in the "popular consensus", yeah!
-Conspiracy Informationalists "Madden" easily. Emotionally unstable. They dont' come from rational thought at all!
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Posted by: Parcival01 on Jul 6, 2009 7:38 AM
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Then I saw this article. I looked up these stones on the web. C'mon, look it up. If that isn't an innocuous "monument," I don't know what is! And if you want to be particularly amused, look on a web page called Disclose.tv, subtitled, "truth revealed." There's a short video on that evil messages of the Georgia stones, connecting them with heaven only knows who.
Yep, times may be hard, but we Yanks still have a lot of spare time on our hands.
Whoever decided to put this thing together was brilliant. If they had announced that, "Hey, I'm gonna put up a monument with some of my suggestions for the future on it," no one would care. It'd today be a weed-infested pile of stones. But whoever did it did so without announcing it, thereby adding an air of mystery. So they must have been in on the Kennedy assassination, huh? And in on Bob Marley's death. Wait...and maybe Michael Jackson's too!!!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 6, 2009 8:29 AM
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The fact of the matter is that the World is drowning in a sea of Evil and Lies. Alternet should be publishing articles from writers who spell out this aweful reality in an elegant and coherent fashion.
One such writer is Angie Riedel of California.
Intellectual Violence
Here is an excerpt
"We're living in a society which, at this moment in time, is being controlled and dominated by people who have no respect for others. By people who by the very nature of how they think and act are criminals. There's no wiggle room here, it's quite simple when you stop to remember that the essence of crime is depriving others of their free will and their right to act in their own best interests. Those who dominate our reality right now are master liars, and the damage they are perpetrating has no historical equivalent in this country. The destruction they're wreaking is total and we're only beginning to see the tip of the iceberg. By the time they're done there won't be much left standing, and a whole lot of people are going to suffer, and a whole lot of people are going to die. You tell me what's not criminal about that. Everything about it is criminal.
These controllers have managed to get a dominant foothold into every major aspect of society. The justice system, the departments of government, the church, public and higher education have all been infiltrated and are in the process of being ideologically raped. They own and control the media and they do this with the specific purpose of being able to withhold the truth about themselves and what they do, what they want and how they're getting what they want, from the public. You can't even buy TV time today if you have a different perspective than the one they want to dominate the public consciousness with. They can't afford the truth going out to the people because they know the people would never agree to go along with them. Therefore, they either have to shoot us all, which simply isn't possible, or they have to violate our consciousness with an endless stream of lies to make us want to go along with them. And they're experts at this. And we pay them to do it and they use our money to do it to us.
Every aspect of how they operate is an insult and a violation of the public's right to choose in their own behalf. We can no longer make appropriate choices because we no longer have access to all of the information, to truth, or to all of the sides to any story. All we will ever hear again as long as the media laws stay the same is only what they want us to hear.
We have only to look around us to gauge the numbers of innocent people dying both here and abroad to get an accurate idea of just how much evil has managed to insinuate itself into our minds and lives. We have only to witness the metamorphosis of ordinary men who once upheld our laws to protect us, into militarized, soulless, dishonest inhuman robot killers and thugs to recognize that evil is transforming our society from its very roots and defining principles into its exact mirror opposite. We are being turned into everything we claim to hate and would risk our lives to fight against, and we no longer seem capable of recognizing it."
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I read about it on Saturday night when there isn't anything more interesting going on.
Conspiracy theories are fun!
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Hitler & his war machine were groomed, cultivate, & funded by those still trying to pull the strings today: the Elite/Illuminati/NWO/globalists!
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Revelations was simply a virulent anti-Roman tract and NOT some prophetic vision of the future.
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Posted by: caru on Jul 6, 2009 12:27 PM
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look around you, we cannot believe it to be true, so we miss all the signs. the truth is, even the global elite cannot control everything.
watch this and then decide.
endgame on youtube
check out the facts, check out the mainstream news adn add it all up.
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The idea of discrediting the Bible has been a long historical fact. The "Secret Rapturists" have followed this idea which was inaugurated originally from a total distortion of sound historically based assessment of the prophesies stated in Daniel and Revelation. Daniel was written over 500 years BC and Revelation under 100 years AD These two Books need to be referenced together and with HISTORY (non doctored) to get the full picture.
The whole of the Prophetic scenarios are about Religion because of the fact it mentions "Worship" which MUST have connotations towards a religious situation. Unfortunately, most do not see themselves as being involved in a hoax and will do anything to get the monkey off their back. Martin Luther pinpointed who the Anti Christ was and the Protestant Reformation was under way. The organisation that he pointed at took up the challenge to get the monkey off their back and started a counter reformation. If one really gets down to the nitty gritty they will find, simply by observing what the so called reformed now believe and you will find that the original Reformation almost no longer exists, but the Counter Reformation dogmas are right through nearly ALL the beliefs of the Religious right.
Really, what we are looking at today is almost total confusion and in my opinion, yes, its only my opinion, I think that there are a lot of thinking people today who are questioning the rot. They do not know the answers but they can see the crapp being put forward and they are questioning it, RIGHTLY so.
To get people from seeing what you are doing, create a diversion and then create disbelief in that which shows up your nefarious acts. Get everyone thinking that the reality is just some religious bashing junk. Cast doubt on it and push the diversion agenda so that people will become so confused that they will throw everything overboard and then be caught up in the disaster and not look for the real truth. Got to admit it though, they are doing a very fine job. They have everyone fighting amongst themselves and certainly NOT looking at the real perpetrators of the false religiosity. It is a very big war that is going on. The war between Good and Evil. We are all involved whether we like it or not and each has to make their own decision as to what they are going to believe. Getting the facts can be quite daunting as so much rigging of history is done that it is sometimes hard to determine what is fact and what is fiction.
You be the judge. I do not have space to lay it all out for you but do suggest that you get a proper understanding of Biblical Prophecy and be able to determine what Revelation 13 is specifically about and you will find that things do become quite easy to understand as to where we are in History. We are in the middle of Rev 13's full blast and we do not even know it and they do not want you to know it either. Better control if you don't know. Religious domination is the final downfall of man (and woman). If you want to have the full blast of the false religion land on your shoulders, just get the facts and then start pointing them out and you will get all the persecution you can muster. They will do their darndest to make you look a fool and discredit you.
This whole story is about diversion. Seems its working quite well. The Anti Christ will be one who proclaims themselves as the Christ and they will be espousing much of the works of Christ. They will NOT appear to be opposing Christ but supposedly supporting Him. Now WHO would do something like that? They have to be a large authoritative religious group to have credibility to be able to carry it off without being suspected. They do it very well.
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Posted by: Lilly on Jul 6, 2009 3:03 PM
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This kind of stuff is not just from the Deep South; some of the looniest material showing up on townhall is from Nevada, Arizona, and Indiana. But (although right-wing websites are certainly a skewed information source) my sense of this is that liberals don't really grasp how much clinical paranoia infests our fair land. Just about anything Obama says gets translated into a huge threat. A call to community service (eg drive for Meals on Wheels or the American Cancer Society)became "indentured servitude". A call for a youth service corps (VISTA, Peace Corps) became a Hitler Youth Corps. A call for free universal preschool became "indoctrination of our children to Socialism and homosexuality". And of course the NRA has abetted the expectation that Obama will send, any day now, his Black Militant Thug Corps into American home to seize guns. For more, google "brownshirts", a favorite term.
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Where the heck does he think the roots of _his own_ religion lie?
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jul 7, 2009 8:00 AM
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have you noticed how NOT CHRISTIAN their beliefs are becoming?
its all pagan.
its all the most bullshit 'theology' wrapped up in a mish-mash of bad logic & un-educated faith & magic.
with just a souçon of White Supremacy or colonialism
they should be ashamed of themselves.
but then, that's why they're engaging in such bullshit in the first place.
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What kind of crap is this and why do people believe in it?
Who financed this stuff?
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Nation About Due For Big Cult Suicide
This just proves that there's side show freaks and wannabes galore within the mindset of the herd some call humanity
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The underlying message of these ten things is that the world can get along just fine without our interference. I say we give mother earth a break, and take a step back. Use condoms. Get Vasectomies. Don't have children. We've broken our poor, defiled little planet, and she's begging us to scale ourselves back, but we just ignore her crying and keep on raping her until the cops (environmental disaster) show up.
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1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
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1…address leaving a girl to die in 4 feet of water while he made CYA calls
2…address his reputation for fornication and drunkenness
3…address his long support for homosexual marriage
4…address his long support for secular legislation
5…address his long support for unrestricted abortion (stopping heartbeats)
6…address his support for unrestricted stem cell research
7…address his long support from Planned Parenthood and other secular abortionist groups
8…address his long support of anti-family anti-prayer legislation (and/or failure to speak out)
This man is not only physically sick but a moral midget, a serial liar and a repulsive secular socialist.
Left to me…him, Pelosi and Kerry would have been excommunicated from the Catholic Church a decade ago.
Suppose they were Jewish, denied the holocaust and espoused for decades the “Jews For Jesus” movement…
all the while pretending they follow the Jewish faith policy…as they see fit…same thing.
Liberals are the best pretenders and liars. So much disgusting practice.
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