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A Message from the Average Black Person

By Elon James White, Huffington Post. Posted June 27, 2009.


The next time you talk to a Black person you can feel comfortable in knowing that you have no clue what they think or feel based on their skin color.

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To Whom It May Concern:

Greetings. My name is Elon James White. I'm Black.

I write this letter on behalf of a lot of people that fall into the category of Average Black People. (Yes, I capitalize it, as if it were a title.) I do not claim to represent them because that would be absurd. I really, truly don't. I don't even represent my circle of friends. At any point in time one of my Black buddies will, in fact, tell me to go to hell when speaking on concepts of race, politics, or religion.

I do, however, qualify as an Average Black Person. I am neither a part of the Black intelligentsia, nor do I fall into the category of your garden-variety street Negro. A lot of folks see Black people in one of these two categories. Normally, let's be honest, it's the latter.

I don't qualify.

I do come from "the Hood." That's right. I am a born and bred Brooklynite raised in the middle of Bed-Stuy. If you aren't familiar with Bed-Stuy, perhaps you have never listened to gangster rap. You're probably also unfamiliar with Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls, or the thousands of songs that yell out "Brooklyn!" and then give a shout-out to Bed-Stuy. It's fine. Just understand that Bed-Stuy has a primarily negative connotation and for many years was used in boasts to gain respect or fear because it's an incredibly violent environment.

In other words, you could get shot, son.

Speaking of which, I am the son of a single mother. My father is in prison. My grandfather was a pastor and I grew up in the church. I, without shame, also enjoy fried chicken, watermelon, ribs, and orange soda. I can have an incredibly in-depth debate on the best five MCs ever. My credit isn't great and I've been shot.

With facts like this I qualify as a stereotypical Black person right?

But I am also a computer programmer. I've been known to quote Nietzsche. I, on occasion, host dinner parties where I serve five-course meals, including a specialty of mine, White Truffle Tilapia (it's delightful). I have the entire John Williams discography and wear a backpack that is emblazoned with the Thundercats insignia.

Those with one half of that story shake their head at the sheer mass of stereotypes I carry. Then those with the other half question if I even understand the Black experience at all. Some refer to me as someone who "made it out." I currently live in Crown Heights. Some say "You're not like the others." Most people I interact with are very similar to me.

I am an Average Black Person.

So, as an ABP, I have a few requests:

Media.
Please stop referring to blacks as a monolith. I can't possibly express to you the different types of Black people that exist. We neither move as an entity, nor do we move as three or four entities. For every Sharpton, there's a Steele. And for every Sharpton and Steele there are a hundred folks in the middle. What we share is a past, which on occasion helps shape our view on things. Also? Obama is not a unicorn. Please stop acting like Obama and his family are magical in the Black community. Just because some of you may not have seen a Negro like this doesn't mean they don't exist. Lots of smart black folk living with their smart mates and their cute smart kids. So please remember. Obama? Not a unicorn. Black people? Not one voice: I don't care what the supposed Black leaders try to claim.


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Elon James White founded the comedy production group "The Brooklyn Comedy Company" spawning successful comedy shows through out New York including the critically acclaimed "4 Shades of Black." Elon also founded the Black Comedy Experiment. Most recently, Elon has created the brand new web series "This Week in Blackness."

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really good essay but I'm surprised the author didn't use the national chair of the Republican Party
Posted by: Suzon on Jun 27, 2009 2:35 AM   
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to make his point.

Nobody knows what's going on in anyone else's mind just by their appearance.

On the other hand, there are things which most of us, regardless of skin color or other factors, would agree on. Too often our differences are exaggerated.

Yes, and stop with the Obama-bashing to make the point that you would be far superior if you were in his position. That's something else you can't possibly know. Google Milgram.

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» Ummmmmm... okay Posted by: Smackback
» Insulting article Posted by: rickiey
THUNDERCATS BACKPACK?
Posted by: Todd Kimmell on Jun 27, 2009 4:22 AM   
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Free MUMRA! Free MUMRA!! Free MUMRA!!!

Sorry, Elon... I just couldn't help it. I know you can't speak for the minority African American anime / pop culture toy loving, pan culture taste, sight and sound sampling folks, and I proudly admit I am more the first generation Ultraman generation (goddam snot nosed Thundercat loving brats!), but as a Philadelphian where we still get the annual, nearly all white attended Free Mumia parade, just seeing or hearing the keyword THUNDERCATS sets off an instant Pavlovian wise ass street vendor / opportunist twitch, and I start making plans for my FREE MUMRA shirts to wear and sell at the next parade.

Of course I never do, because I learned my lesson 15 years ago after creating the most amazing t-shirts showing a Hummel figurine grinning while about to pull the trigger on the cutest WWI automatic pistol, aimed at his temple. We set up outside a major Hummel auction, and figured ALL the husbands present would simply have to have them. Ended up giving them all to friends, where I'm told they are still treasured relics of my good marketing ideas gone wrong.

Maybe not the usual response one reads here, but you're a gentleman of comedy, and its early here on a Saturday.

Great article!

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OK, but you might want to send a copy to the Congressional Black Caucus
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jun 27, 2009 4:47 AM   
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1."I can have an incredibly in-depth debate on the best five MCs ever. My credit isn't great and I've been shot."

So what. That makes you black?

2. Sounds like you can cook tilapia. Me too. Good choice of fish.

I'm not sure the point of this comedian's(that his profession, so don't complain about my use of the term) autobiographical narrative in leftwing publications.

Does he imply "spokespersons" like the Congressional Black Caucus, which exclude white congressmen even if they represent a black majority or large plurality, are to be ignored?

The author has clear, wellreferenced language. I would expect nothing more nor less from a professional writer, of any ethnic background.

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» RE:You sure are white! Posted by: jimidee
Otto
Posted by: otto on Jun 27, 2009 5:42 AM   
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I'm an "old geezer white guy" 75 years old. I really liked this article. It fits in with my general outlook on life. But I see the stereotype
principle as applying on a much wider basis to all of life: our human concepts and words are always limited and most of us don't seem to realize it. Life and Reality are too big for words; most of our arguements (wars?) and disagreements come from the fact that we live on generalizations and don't work our way down into the personal and individual level of interpretation on things. (like "Blacks are lazy", "Whites are smart and rich" and "Irishmen are drunks" - right, I'm third of fourth generation Irish!) Anyway, great article!

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Capital colors.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 27, 2009 6:01 AM   
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What's a Black person and a White person? Are those tribes?

Why the proper naming convention over pigment? We'll make capital progress when its not so important to folks.

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I don't care what color O is at this point
Posted by: luzilla on Jun 27, 2009 6:20 AM   
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O is penning an executive order to detain people indefinitely without due process, he is also not going to let the torture victims have their day in court. Further, it looks like he is not going to get us the public health care option we need. Oh, and he has just rammed through Congress the money to fund an endless quagmire in A-stan. I don't care what color he is at this point, because he is VERY deserving of every ounce of criticism about totally flipping on his campaign promises is record time.

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right on brother!!
Posted by: brucer on Jun 27, 2009 6:26 AM   
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You make a great point that there is no average black man. I think the real issue is we need to stop using labels like black, white, Hispanic etc, because they have little meaning anymore. There is no typical Hispanic either.If we want to abolish racism in the world, we have to stop catagorizing people by race. Simple

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» Not so fast! Posted by: justAnEgg
» RE: Not so fast! Posted by: MT512
» RE: right on brother!! Posted by: SagesseNoir
YEss!!!!!!!
Posted by: meronkun on Jun 27, 2009 7:21 AM   
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Wattttermelooon

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» RE: YEss!!!!!!! Posted by: Sushi
Excellent.
Posted by: undead on Jun 27, 2009 7:29 AM   
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Right on, bro. :-)

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» Natter on, bro, natter on. Posted by: rancespergl
MIDDLE AGED WHITE GUY
Posted by: nicejake on Jun 27, 2009 8:41 AM   
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I'm a 57 year old white guy, who is generally seen walking around the world in old fashioned bib overalls. Most people make judgements about me because of my appearance. White folks here in Mississippi will believe I'm an old fashioned rascist and tell me some horrible jokes. I often tell them that I don't think like that. (not always, I pick my spots)

When I meet up with black folks they often ignore me or treat me rudely. Evidently they make assumptions about my beliefs, based on my appearance. Hmm........

I've been a progressive since my mid teens.
It seems that many people find that it is odd that I have a lifetime commitment to fairness and equality, based on my appearance.

Perhaps, all of us can do better with not using stereotypes to define the world for us.

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» RE: So true, so true... Posted by: lightwing1
» RE: Bib overalls Posted by: Jaffe
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ABP talking
Posted by: Jaffe on Jun 27, 2009 10:48 AM   
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A few turns here and there and this is a stand-up comedy routine.

I come from the Hood / it's called Bed-Stuy / Better watch your ass if you come here / Like my boy Nietzsche / I'm jus' a reg'lar guy.


No, Black Americans are not indivisible; neither are Asians, Latinos or Jews--though each is commonly caricatured as a single entity. Understood.

But instructing non-Black folks how to respond to Obama, as you seem to be doing, is itself patronizing.

Agreed, Obama is not a unicorn; he has intelligence and grace, but he's either superficial or afraid to rock the boat.

Certainly he's surrounded himself with the wrong people, but he chose them, didn't he? Emanuel, Geithner, Summers, Bernanke, Gates, Gates's generals . . .

And he's lied to us: Liberating Gitmo and the other torture camps; pulling troops from Iraq; making the right (left) decisions on the economy and health care . . . Half-truths or lies, all of them.

Black, white, off-white . . . The pertinent fact is that Obama is a lawyer and politician; neither more nor less.

And we need more--much more--in this degraded time.

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» RE: ABP talking Posted by: AZLBRAX07
» RE: ABP talking Posted by: Jaffe
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» RE: ABP talking Posted by: Jaffe
GOOD ESSAY!
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jun 27, 2009 10:51 AM   
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Spread the word. Your essay was well received. Somebody has to get the word out, and you did. It shouldn't end here. The millions of people who are not in jail or in the White House ought to be heard. Extremes are easy to find. It's the vast middle that is ignored. ANNA

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Re: A Message From An Average Black Person
Posted by: jobypoet on Jun 27, 2009 11:04 AM   
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This is what's up! Bravo, sir, bravo! As a fellow writer and "average black person", I am jealous that I didn't write this. But I'm glad you did because it definitely needed to be said.

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You'd just be considered "a good one"
Posted by: artifax on Jun 27, 2009 11:15 AM   
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Those who rely on stereotyping lump every "whatever" into categories but then, when exceptions to their rules are encountered, they don't trash their flawed outlook. They just accept that this "good one" or these few "good ones" exist but, exceptions aside, the category is still basically uniform.

Bottom line is that some people need simple answers and ways to view the world, even in the face of contradictions. It's not about rational thinking.

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Geekdom knows no boundaries...
Posted by: eyejam on Jun 27, 2009 1:24 PM   
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...and when I say "geekdom" I mean that in an affectionate and positive way. You know, computer programmer, animation logos on the book bag, french cooking, John Williams obsession (no doubt he also LOVES Star Wars), that sort of thing.

Truth is Nobody can speak for the experience of the Everybody, even if that person has similar skin tone and features. And in that I include white, Asian, Hispanic/Latino/Chicano, Jew, you name it. We're all more complicated than that. (Although, let's face it, some stereotypes are not so despised. You know, like sexual prowess, the ability to make money, etc. My Jewish friends often use them to describe themselves, but only the ones that serve their purpose at the time. Of course, just because a stereotype isn't despised doesn't make it more true.)

But then there's Class:
When you talk about Class--and I believe that's the real boundary maker--things get dicier. This author, though not financially rich, does seem to have enjoyed the fruits of a rich education (even if public), and he's obviously curious--a pretty significant barrier to intelligence. In that vein I believe we CAN make certain monolithic assumptions about people. Intelligence (i.e. education) does have a mind-opening quality, and the lack thereof, well, it has the opposite effect. The Republicans and Fox News believe this and have exploited it rather well. (Not that education makes you open minded, but often it helps.)

Call me an elitist but here's my conclusion: Yes, black people are complicated (as we all are). The Ignorant and Uninformed: Not so much. (Be they "street negros," "white trash," whatever.)

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content of character
Posted by: jejer on Jun 27, 2009 2:00 PM   
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very good article indeed!

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It takes a comedian...
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 27, 2009 4:12 PM   
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Excellent piece. Made me reflect on my own prejudice without guilt tripping. I don't think I've ever seen anyone do that before.

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It's old and insulting
Posted by: waltmail on Jun 28, 2009 5:24 AM   
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Who is this addressed to? The average White guy? It is old, tired and insulting. Our society treats every faction with the same attitude,sadly. It is called culture clash. Singling yourself out, by category,is stereotypically self serving and divisive. It seems that once the "white guy" is eliminated from our culture, everything will be just fine. Just like a punch line in the old joke, if everyone was blue there would still be different shades of blue. In the meantime, I would suggest getting over your sense of self worth. The self fulfilling prophecy seems to be hard at work in your psyche.

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» RE: It's old and insulting Posted by: Elon James White
YAWN!!!
Posted by: AZLBRAX07 on Jun 28, 2009 5:40 AM   
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My reaction to this article is a firm "so what?"

Nothing like pointing out the obvious…and here's one more obvious fact: everyone…and I mean EVERYONE…stereotypes everyone else, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or social class. It's just something Talking Apes do. For instance: for every White who has preconceived notions about Blacks, there's a Black with preconceived notions about Whites.

And, I love this quote: "He (Obama) is a symbol of opportunity in a land where opportunity for us seemed nonexistent." Coming from you, Mr. White, this seems disingenuous, considering that you made it out of a rotten neighborhood and ended up with a pretty respectable job!

But, speaking of education: in the next-to-the last paragraph, the proper word is "country's", not "countries".

Gee, I'm surprised that the "geniuses" at Alternet didn't catch that one!

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Great article that helps bring people together, as opposed to divided & conquered!
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Jun 28, 2009 8:45 AM   
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The elite & there minions have everyone else divided & conquered & fighting over the crumbs they leave behind for us!

Let's end all this white vs. black, republican vs. democrat, Jew vs. Muslim, gay vs. straight, liberal vs. conservative, etc., etc.,!!! We are all just people!!!

We need to all be on the same team to overcome the economic & health care crises, loss of our rights, creeping fascism, etc.!!!

Wake-up already!

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It's been my experience...
Posted by: Quannah on Jun 28, 2009 9:12 AM   
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that white people generally expect all people of color to completely assimilate into the white culture, and if they don't, well... something's WRONG! Everything must be done according to their dictates! It's so insulting. "You're too black!" "You're acting white!" And if someone is comfortable just being themselves, based on their own life experiences, it's the same critique! We live our lives based on OUR OWN criteria, not yours! How long is it going to take before you leave people alone?

The article was well-written and reflects the thoughts and feelings of the author and many other black people. But instead of accepting it for what it is, there are people here who feel the need to criticize this man's opinions which are based ON HIS OWN EXPERIENCE. Racism rears its ugly head yet again!

Why can't you read an article like this and just accept what he says? Why do you feel the need to challenge his assertions, when you have NO IDEA of what his reality is? It's absurd!

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I want that white truffle tilapia recipe
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Jun 28, 2009 9:39 AM   
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!

#@!

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Thank You
Posted by: JohnJlws on Jun 28, 2009 10:46 AM   
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!

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Female, hillbilly, middle age
Posted by: littlepitcher on Jun 28, 2009 11:32 AM   
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Nobody wants to speak for me, and probably not even to me.

I've never used meth or Oxy-contin. I'm not a high school dropout but I had to leave college from ulcers developed by suppressed anger from dealing with the middle class.


And, for those who hate me for my white skin, I am of African-American, Chinese, Mexican, and Cherokee ancestry as well as the Scotch-Irish who gave me the pallid complexion.

I hate country music. Coltrane and Blakey rule the iPod.

Thank you, Mr. (non) White, for enriching our computer experience. Give 'em hell!

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Interesting article
Posted by: TexasCowboy on Jun 28, 2009 12:44 PM   
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but I want to add many Americans, especially older Americans, fought hard to support the civil rights movement and end racial discrimination because it was the right thing to do. Discrimination is abhorred no matter what form it takes. I don't get why Black Americans do not want to return the same support for gay Americans, who also face discrimination, at work, at school, many who are murdered or gay youth who commit suicide etc. If any group knows about being treated as 2nd class citizens I would think they would be helping any other group, in this case gays, to have the equal rights they now share.
The issue of not placing all Black people into a single category is valid, unfortunately gays are not faced with this issue as all gays are placed into the same discriminatory category (even though we pay our taxes, work hard, defend our country until we are kicked out) we are still 2nd class citizens.

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So, here is a guy with a positive editorial.
Posted by: John Freeman on Jun 28, 2009 1:06 PM   
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And more than half the comments are downside. One the the great attributes of about half the people in our country is the ability to tear the other half down. The former are most often referred to as 'Republicans', they are the group that keeps us angry at each other so we don't notice we are being robbed blind.

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The same can be said of every single ethnicity....
Posted by: StPeteRican on Jun 28, 2009 11:44 PM   
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race, gender, sexual preference, height, weight, hair color, disability, etc.
Still, we are all like the fingers on a hand, individually we are nothing but an appendage. Our power comes from our shared humanity. And whatever anyone may say, we are ALL more alike than we are different. Don't we all bleed if we get shot at? Don't we all hurt when a love one suffers?
Great writing skills, but I don't get the author's point. I suggest you use your gift for higher pursuits.

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Gee, by this guy's definition of an ABP...
Posted by: jimidee on Jun 29, 2009 4:55 AM   
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I qualify for the Average Black Person Club too. Yet I am white.

The kicker is that you really can't tell what is in a person's head until you get to know them, and that goes for ANY person.

But you can get some idea about some things just from skin color...like voting patterns. The person in question may not fit in that percentage...but that just makes them a statistical anomaly. While certainly it is best to get the individual's take on issues before prejudging them, to say that you can't use race as a general determinant is erroneous.

Advertising marketeers do it to us all the time quite successfully when they target us. The proof is in the pudding, watermelon, fried chicken, Cadillac Escalade, Prius or whatever. Sociologists can tell us a lot about someone by their race, tribe, etc., but warn us not to depend on that too much when making hard and fast determinations about an individual. That is good advice.

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I Get It, Black People are Individuals
Posted by: daw13 on Jun 29, 2009 6:08 AM   
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So the insane plurality of African American men in jail attests to their individual incompetence at living in this great, race-blind democracy we don't have? All you're telling me is that you'd rather be defined by your money than your color. Like any other citizen who accepts the pathology of capitalism-fascism in exchange for a tiny measure of economic security. At the expense of those disenfranchised, when necessary, to ease your pain and reduce the threat of revolution.

Three fucking cheers!

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Respect
Posted by: xmvince on Jun 29, 2009 12:08 PM   
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Fear and hate will eat your soul and turn you into a piece of shit worse than anything you feared or hated.

Respect and acceptance are several of the most powerful energetic configurations you can attain.

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I was just wondering -----
Posted by: symcokid on Jun 29, 2009 3:16 PM   
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which one of our GREAT legendary presidents was it that declared, " The only good Indian is a dead Indian"!? Then there are the other catch phrases, the Redskins are only savages and Interlopers - I wonder if they ever shed these dogmas?

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YOU SAY THAT NOBODY KNOWS WHAT A BLACK MAN IS THINKING. THAT IS BOTH TRUE
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jun 30, 2009 1:29 AM   
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and false. Through my lifetime I had thought I had had black friends. I began to realize that with the politest form of condesention they had been merely telling me what they thought I wanted to hear. Of course that wasn't what I wanted to hear. Just tell me the truth. Occasionally some did.

When my first wife died I thought perhaps that I might find a nice black lady. I didn't think I was prejudiced. What I found was that she was.

Black people have been treated badly so long that they have responded. How natural. How normal. If the white folks are going to be prejudiced I'll just go them one better. So many black folk are quietly prejudiced against whites. The prejudice is deep and harsh.

There are only one or two people in the black community that black people trust. These people must be entirely dependant on black people for their incomes. If a black man works for a white man he is suspect. These trusted black people are the black preachers and the black funeral home directors. If black people don't like them, they are gone.

When it was first clear that the Rev. Wright was going to be a political problem for Obama, I was afraid for Obama. Then I began to get my own legs. I realized that the Rev. Wright represented the black folks that walked through the door. He said what they wanted to hear. I began to realize that if the republican establishment hated someone that that was the strongest endorsement a human being could get. It didn't keep me from being afraid, politically, for Obama but it created a ganuine respect for the Rev. Wright.

For those of you that believe that I have wandered from reality, please tell me so. I am always ready to learn. After all that is what we all search for constantly.

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Average Black?
Posted by: SagesseNoir on Jun 30, 2009 8:20 AM   
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Just what is average? Or an "average black"? In defiining himself as an "average" Black, Mr. Elton James White does little more than tell us what he thinks an average black is NOT: a member of the black intelligentsia like Eric Dyson and Steele, or a "street Negro (??? "thug,'s maybe?). Implicitly, he seems to want to suggest that "average" blacks are the majority.
That sounds vague. Is a billionaire like Oprah Winfrey--neither intellectual nor street Negro--an "average" Black. Are wealthy performers like Bill Cosby or Halle Berry average blacks.
Certainly the majority of blacks are not billionaires or wealthy entertainers. I suspect that both black intellectuals and street Negroes are more common than rich black celebrities.
Perhaps one do better to think in terms of class. In that case, the VAST MAJORITY of Blacks (as with others) are basically working class people, though commonly more economically distressed than most other working class folk.
They're not entrepreneurs like Elton, intellectuals like Cornel West, wealth celebrities like Oprah nor members of that amorphous group Elton almost politely calls street Negroes (though it is from our working class that such as these commnly come).
They were pillars of the Civil Rights movement, though usually not the ones (Rosa Parks being a noted exception) to gain widespread notoriety. It is because of their sacrifices that some can claim today that they no longer need a Dr. King or a Malcolm X.

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CATS CAN BE CALLED DOGS
Posted by: reelman on Jun 30, 2009 8:34 AM   
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Imagine a future Supreme Court where ANY professional test is simply invalid because it discriminates against those scoring higher than some group politically favored by democrats? Civil Service, CPA, GRE, medical admit tests and many others are to be someday invalid on their face?

You score, say, 80 and another candidate another scores, say, 75 and they are placed ahead of you because you were born into a less favored political group according to democrats? Not a tie score where the discrimination could possibly be argued in very rare cases but very different scores indeed. This is serious lib-thought by Sotomayor and Obama!

Do we now allow 3 strikes in baseball for some groups and 4 for others? Why not?
The fact four Justices voted for “discrimination to end discrimination” should tell you all you need to know.

Modern liberalism is a mental disorder. Rule nothing out.

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Hilarious
Posted by: marjani on Jun 30, 2009 12:26 PM   
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I guess that means none of us are ABP's, whatever that is.

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