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Iran's Balance of Power Has Been Upended -- Is the Country Teetering Toward Civil War?

By Robert Dreyfuss, The Nation. Posted June 18, 2009.


Things are ugly now. But they could rapidly get a lot uglier, more violent, and more civil war-like. Will opposition maintain its momentum?

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Amid scattered deaths and rising protests, the showdown in Iran continues to build. The Iranian regime's crackdown is gathering momentum, with reports of sweeping arrests of opposition figures, militia raids on university campuses, and threats from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps that protestors are liable to be executed. (A contingent of pro-Ahmadinejad backers marched in Tehran yesterday, chanting: "Rioters should be executed!") According to Reuters, the Guard statement said:

"We warn the few elements controlled by foreigners who try to disrupt domestic security by inciting individuals to destroy and to commit arson that the Islamic penal code for such individuals waging war against God is execution."

Of course, the "elements" are hardly "few," they are not "controlled by foreigners," and their actions have been overwhelmingly nonviolent, dignified, and restrained rather than trying to "destroy" and "commit arson." Yet the threat is plain.

Ibrahim Yazdi, the dissident veteran of the 1979 revolution who is a leader of the Freedom Movement of Iran -- and who I interviewed at length at his home in Tehran the day after the rigged election -- is reportedly sought by the Iranian security forces, who came to his home to arrest him. He was not there, according to the report. The Washington Post reports that more than 170 opposition figures have been arrested, including senior officials.

The anti-Ahmadinejad coalition is deep and broad. It includes conservative, Old Guard founders of the Islamic Republic, who view Ahmadinejad with disdain and who resent the coming to power of his coterie of Revolutionary Guard commanders; the large and growing majority of Iranian clerics and senior ayatollahs, many of whom have long viewed the Leader, Ayatatollah Ali Khamenei, as an upstart and usurper since he was elevated to his position 20 years ago; nearly the entirety of Iran's business class, especially those involved in high-tech, aviation, oil and gas, and heavy industry, who blame Ahmadinejad for his catastrophic mismanagement of the economy and for the crippling economic sanctions; the entire class of Iranian reformists, from more liberal-minded clerics like former President Khatami to more centrist ex-officials such as former Prime Minister Mousavi, the presidential candidate; a large contingent of Iranian women, energized by the role of Zahra Rahnavard, Mousavi's wife, who I met in Tehran, who campaigned vigorously for her husband and for women's rights; and of course, the educated elite of Iran, including students, artists, filmmakers, intellectuals, writers, and musicians.

The pro-Ahmadinejad bloc is a typically fascist one. It includes, first of all, the 150,000-strong Revolutionary Guard, the paramilitary, million-strong Basij militia, thug-like, unofficial vigilante groups like Iranian Hizbullah (unrelated to Lebanon's Hizbullah), the police, and other security forces. Important elements of the national security bureaucracy, who are on Ahmadinejad's payroll and support him enthusiastically. 

An increasingly isolated, and very hard line, bloc of senior clerics -- including Khamenei, members of the all-powerful Guardian Council, and an ultra-conservative group of clerics in Qom, centered on followers of Ayatollah Mesbah-Yazdi and his students -- supports Ahmadinejad, though they are arrayed against the opposition clerics. And of course, Ahmadinejad has a loyal base among the religious right, some rural and small town voters who've been showered with petty largesse under his rule, and ultra-nationalists who find his appeal to defiant anti-Westernism stirring. The Revolutionary Guard, which has constructed a vast economic enterprise in Iran, is skimming profits, smuggling banned goods, and elbowing out Iran's battered private sector.

My own view -- and this was confirmed by a number of insiders I met with in Tehran -- is that the traditional balance of power has been upended. According to conventional wisdom, Iran's president is a figurehead with little or no power, while the Leader (often mistakenly called the "Supreme Leader") is the all-powerful commander in chief and decision-maker. At the very least, that balance is tilting, and I'll leave it to closer watchers of Iranian politics than me to figure out how far it's moved. But it's clear that Ahmadinejad, his military and paramilitary allies, and the radical clerics that support him have at least surrounded if not neutralized Khamenei, the Leader.

Part of the stuggle that's unfolding now is a struggle for the Leader's allegiance. Key allies of Mousavi, above all Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani, the corrupt billionaire and fixer who helped Khamenei come to power in the late 1980s, have been outraged by Ahmadinejad's bungling and mismanagement. If -- and this is a big, big if -- if the entire pro-Mousavi coalition I described above were to continue to challenge Ahmadinejad's rigged vote, if the street protests continue unabated, and if enough of Khamenei's former allies (like Rafsanjani, who met with Khamenei the day before Friday's election) can pull enough strings, it's possible that Ahmadinejad could be ousted in what would amount to a palace coup. That's very unlikely, but possible. And it is far from clear that Ahmadinejad would go quietly, even in that case.

The first inkling that the election outcome could be reversed was the statement from the spokesman for the Guardian Council, Abbas Ali Kadkhodai, that the current review of the vote by the Council, ordered by Khamenei and expected to take a week to ten days, might "result in the nullification of the results and the holding of a new election," as the Washington Post reported. "That is not implausible," Kadkhodai said, to Mehr News, an Iranian press agency with government ties. One analyst has speculated that such a scenario could involve the Council disqualifying enough of Ahmadinejad's votes to bring his total under 50 percent of the vote, thus forcing a runoff election between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi. To be sure, such an event would be nearly revolutionary, and it would further embarrass the Leader, who called the election results last Friday "sacred" and "blessed."

More likely is that Khamenei, Ahmadinejad, and their allies will circle the wagons. They'll greet protests with an iron fist. Though things are ugly now, they could rapidly get a lot uglier, more violent, and more civil war-like. Thirty years ago, it was the decision of the Shah of Iran not to confront the revolutionaries with violence that allowed the anti-Shah movement to grow strong enough to oust the Shah. Then, as now, a relatively small number of deaths -- "martyrs" -- triggered a traditional, Shiite forty-day cycle of memorial marches and ceremonial protests and led to a crescendo of protest by the end of 1978. A month later, the Shah had fled.

So far it's unclear if the opposition can maintain its momentum. I'd say that the smart money is on Ahmadinejad holding on, backed by outright force. That's why President Obama is hedging his bets, praising the rebellious students and Mousavi voters but insisting that he's ready, willing and able to talk to Ahmadinejad and Khamenei. To the continuing frustration of the neocons, Obama isn't throwing American support to the Green Revolution. And that's a good thing.

As for me, well, I'm biased. I support the Green Revolution. But I'm not being shot at.

That doesn't mean that I support Iran's reactionary, benighted form of government. As far as I am concerned, a government run by mullahs is so seventh century. Do Iranians want to upend the entire system? Many do. Many Iranians are sick and tired of, and embarrassed by, a regime run by bearded old clerics. How much of Mousavi's coalition is made up of people who want to do away with the entire Iranian constitution and the Islamic Republic that goes with it? My guess? Except for Rafsanjani, his clerical allies, and others in the establishment, quite a few. Many of those who were attracted to Mousavi and Rahnavard supported them because they saw the reformists as a key that might open a locked door to a new Iran, one run by secular politicians. "Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished," said Hamlet. Of course, the princely Dane was talking about suicide. And for many Iranians, opposing the Iranian regime means exactly that.
 
Robert Dreyfuss is a contributing editor to The Nation magazine, and the author of Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam (Metropolitan).

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Maybe there'll be justice
Posted by: Julian on Jun 18, 2009 1:54 AM   
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The criminals that dare to rule over their country at gunpoint just might end up joining Musso and Ceaucescu.

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» And what is justice? Posted by: mgmyers79
US involvement in Iran
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Jun 18, 2009 2:48 AM   
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Seymour Hersh would disagree with the third paragraph of this article as he reported almost a year ago that clandestine US military operations in Iran were given the go ahead by Congress.
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» goto:GoldmanSachs666.com Posted by: weathered
» RE: goto:GoldmanSachs666.com Posted by: EncinoM
Iran dumped US dollar in oil transactions
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Jun 18, 2009 3:04 AM   
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Iran no longer uses the US dollar for oil transactions. Saddam Hussein did the same before the US invaded. coincidence?
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I'm sure Netanyahu and Cheney are sporting wood...
Posted by: kogwonton on Jun 18, 2009 3:19 AM   
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And probably salivating very hard. Do you suppose any of 'our' folks are in there helping things along? No, I'm sure we're not.

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Election Results in Iran Matched the Pre-Election Polls
Posted by: BobBrrz on Jun 18, 2009 4:08 AM   
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Sure is a lot of hoopla over the Iranian Presidential Election. Some things to keep in mind:

1. The President in Iran is a figurehead--he doesn't wield nearly as much power as the Prime Minister. And neither wields as much power as the chief Mullah, currently Khameini.

2. The election came out just as some very reliable polls predicted. The young people in Iran like change; the old people don't. Sound familiar?

3. The U.S. most certainly has some skin in this game, just as it has paid off and continues to pay off politicians the world over.

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» Zero out of three Posted by: brunowe
Dreyfuss' work is sloppy and sorry.
Posted by: drone on Jun 18, 2009 4:48 AM   
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This is a sorry piece of shit of an op-ed in a long line of them on this site and several others. Alternet's getting more like HuffPo every week and it's been a sad decline.

So once again a largely indigenous political movement is aided to collpase by external forces, and assholes like Dreyfuss cheer it on relentlessly because, like all colonialists, they know best: "it's so seventh century", he says, smarm exploding like fireworks on a corporate Fourth of July. Newsflash: making Iran safe for L.L. Bean may be progress in your eyes, but that's no excuse for not doing your homework before you bloviate. There is no evidence yet of fraud other than the losing candidate's assertion of such fraud taking place. The whole fucking nightmare has played like one long ad for Twitter, and you'd think that would repulse somebody at some point.

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Wow.
Posted by: Erik1968 on Jun 18, 2009 5:18 AM   
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The anti-Ahmadinejad includes, according to this article: "nearly the entirety of Iran's business class, especially those involved in high-tech, aviation, oil and gas, and heavy industry, who blame Ahmadinejad for his catastrophic mismanagement of the economy."

Read "mismanagement of the economy" as "public spending on the poor." The poor are the people who voted for Ahmadinejad. The poor are the people whose votes are being discarded.

Ahmadinejad was re-elected by a landslide due to his economic policies. You know, the policies that the nation used to support. Now they apparently support the candidate of the "business class" who campaigned on reversing Ahmadinejad's policies toward the poor, along with the privatization of Iran's TV stations.

Awesome. When did the world turn upside down? We have an anti-democratic pro-business revolution. And Alternet and the Nation are waving their green flags to support it.

Don't you get it? GREEN. For MONEY!

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» RE: Wow. Posted by: abdo46
"Corrupt billionnaire" and the oil and gas capitalists oppose people's power
Posted by: Petrus on Jun 18, 2009 5:24 AM   
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Let's see. There are totally unsubstantiated allegations of a fixed vote, and Mr. Dreyfuss discovers that the opposition to Ahmadinejad is composed in part of a corrupt billionaire and the oil and gas industry, and yet somehow we are supposed to support this movement. Dreyfuss, your anti-working class biases are showing. Ahmadinejad won this election because he has delivered for the country's poor, and they re-elected him. In a country with true universal suffrage like Iran, the poor get to vote. They voted. They won. Now the foreign imperialists and their hired scribblers want to help a corrupt billionaire and the oil and gas capitalists steal their victory. Dreyfuss should get a job as a flak for the State Department.

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Strange things
Posted by: solrev on Jun 18, 2009 6:00 AM   
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Obama is keeping a low profile and stated we will not get involved in Iran’s right of self-determination. Ahmadinejad blames Obama for the rebellion.

The same Iranian leaders who are running this rebellion ousted the Shah, and they are using the same tactics.

Clerical dictatorship or military dictatorship has split the clerics. I will put my money on the clerics to oust Ahmadinejad. His control of the military power is to big of a threat to their power. They will also have to replace the current supreme leader to regain control. Anybody want to bet agaist that outcome, Obama is betting on it.

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1953
Posted by: googoomuck on Jun 18, 2009 7:01 AM   
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Seem to be history repeating itself again. The big oil companies want their oil fields back and need to replace the leadership with someone who is compliant like the Shah. Human rights? Doesn't factor into what the powers that be want in Iran.

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Something for the "Tinfoil Hat" Crowd
Posted by: popeurbanxxiii on Jun 18, 2009 7:12 AM   
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As these protests break out, it just happens that Ahmadinejad is in Russia meeting with the principals of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and the Brazil, Russia, India, and China Group, BRIC who's sole purpose and intent is to replace the US dollar with another reserve currency for international trade.

The consequences for the US of the success of these two trading blocs cannot be overstated. It would simply be devastating for the dollar and the United States.

What fortuitous timing, these uprisings! Let's get the Iranian people to turn the country more "pro-Western" (read: pro-USA). That could wind up very much saving the US dollar.

In global realpolitik it is a master stroke of genius! But in the end, it really is about the Iranian people. I harbor them no ill will (no "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran..." for me!) and want them to manage their affairs in a manner that serves the greatest good - for themselves and the rest of the world.

Are these uprisings being manipulated, or did they spontaneously arise from a stolen election, or are the two connected somehow? I do not know. Is the CIA behind it? Certainly not if the "unrest" fails! If Iran turns more pro-West and pro-US, then they might want to take a bit of credit - deserved or not. (Their image could take a bit of polishing. But, of course, they would neither confirm nor deny...)

As always...

Peace,
Pope Urban XXIII

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» Tinfoil Hat indeed Posted by: brunowe
» RE: Tinfoil Hat indeed Posted by: MyLeftFoot
Congratulations to all commentators !!
Posted by: Zimbly on Jun 18, 2009 7:31 AM   
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Hats off to all who have posted comments.
Inspite of the fact that Alternet has tried somnambulistically to post these ridiculous pieces of propaganda and is somehow wishing that if enough "authors" talk about the "stolen election" that we will eventually swallow the lie and
get on with the program( or should I say "programming") .

Shamlessly and as responsive as your current Congressman, Altenet continues to mock us and insult our intelligence.
Guess Altertnet hasn't seen the huge drop in its readership and comments either?
Carry on Alternet, the way things work on the Internet is people vote with their participation and yours is falling rapidly, you folks are going by way of the dodo.

Want to remedy this?
Then stop posting mainstream propaganda that we can get anywhere and try putting some actual real thinkers here.....or.....is that not possible any longer because of??????

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I canceled the Nation
Posted by: ron heringhauser on Jun 18, 2009 7:56 AM   
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About a year ago I canceled my subscription to the Nation and it's disinformation, after it published an article proclaiming that our government had no plans for a NAFTA Superhighway. I read the American Free Press, and check out alternate news sites to verify news stories. Infowars.com is excellent, as is Lew Rockwell and others. The MSM is nothing but a propaganda arm of the government. Terrorists in the middle east? We need to worry about the criminals on Wall St. and in Congress.

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Stike while the iron is hot
Posted by: floridahank on Jun 18, 2009 8:00 AM   
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Hey, we've interacted in other countries
when there were uprisings, so what's
different about Iran -- let's stir up things
there and see what "comes to the top." I'm
for creating chaos worldwide -- that's the
American way!

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HOw heartless are the posters here
Posted by: EncinoM on Jun 18, 2009 8:54 AM   
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Are you so blind by your hatered of Bush, and by extension the US, that you would support the militia's attacking the University students who are demanding that their votes be counted. Has your blind hate, allows you to support a dictator who sits on top of teh beaten and bloody bodies of those that oppose him.

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» Encino - Posted by: weathered
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» RE: ncino - Posted by: kogwonton
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BS is BS
Posted by: bonapartist on Jun 18, 2009 10:26 AM   
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Last thing I read from Dreyfuss was a cheerleader piece regarding Obama's reception in the muslim world.

That was imho BS and this aricle is another BS.

I bet US oligarchy and its mouthpieces, like said Mr. Dreyfuss, would just love to have Iran descend into the civil war.

This whole "Ahmenidejad stole elections" garbage palys perfectly in US/Iran Middle East policy. Iran has oil and it is next on the list from "Axis of Evil", US lacks military power to start an all out wars but covert ops garbage and funding of guerillas would be just up Obama's alley.

In the mean time North korea is building bigger and better nuclear weapons but hey, they have a big army, would fight and there is no oil involved so they are ignored.

Nice going Mr. Change-we-can-beleive-in, I wish you a merry Dien Bien Phu.

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The audacity of the bushwaz
Posted by: solrev on Jun 18, 2009 10:33 AM   
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I can not believe that so many of you people believe that there is no such thing as an Iranian people. Those people dying in the streets of Tehran are doing so because of their own dreams and aspirations, not to satisfy your masters. The masters you elected and made legitimate, control you, they do not control anyone else. Obama offered to end the American Iranian cold war and it appears that there are Iranians willing to die, to try it. Only a bushwaz American would believe that America controls millions of Iranians.

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» Smashing strawmen is fun! Posted by: -matti
Kinda like the Sunday paper
Posted by: willymack on Jun 18, 2009 11:35 AM   
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This article is OK if you haven't been following the news during the week. It's like the Sunday paper,which is a rehash of the week's news, which I scan in case there's something NEW there, then go on to the editorials, letters to the editor, and funnies.

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Don't let the facts interfere with your analysis
Posted by: hilaryuk on Jun 18, 2009 12:09 PM   
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In many ways this was a good and occasionally insightful article. Unfortunately the author cannot stick to the facts. First, although it is probable the election results were fixed, it is by no means certain that a true count would have given Mousavi a victory. It is quite likely that neither candidate would have got the necessary clear majority and the election would have gone to a second round.

Ahmadinejad does have widespread support, just not among the westernised, middle class English speakers so beloved of western media types. As in most countries, there are more poor than rich people and Ahmadinejad has given them hope, albeit at the cost of crippling the wider economy. Don't the opinions of the poor matter to Dreyfus?

Mousavi is not a revolutionary, but he is a moderniser. Obama is not really hedging his bet as I expect he knows this and realizes that a change of leadership might well lead to a change of tone, but not basic policy - a bit like your own dear president and his wars.

When even a respected commentator chooses to ignore inconvenient facts, we should all worry. And perhaps he could moderate the smug complacency with which he dismisses political systems other than his own. After all, I could sneer about a quasi-democratic system where power is for sale, the real power lies with the corporate sector, the people don't bother taking to the streets when an election is rigged, you shouldn't even bother to think about running in a political race unless you've got very rich backers, and the media toes the establishment line of the day. Of course I wouldn't, because that would be ridiculously simpllified description of the American polity............wouldn't it?

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Israel's FedEx to America
Posted by: weathered on Jun 18, 2009 12:25 PM   
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another invoice for $Billions, a CD-Rom of problems, new enemies and a jar of Vaseline.

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What a sad sad joke alternet and the "progressive media" become
Posted by: sarcasme on Jun 18, 2009 1:36 PM   
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I lost hope in the US's right and left, noting good will comes from you Americans. Twitter revolution my ass.

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Not critical journalism, but pr
Posted by: weathered on Jun 18, 2009 2:15 PM   
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courage, integrity, conviction left the room before saying goodbye.

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Here's all you do...
Posted by: reg373 on Jun 18, 2009 3:08 PM   
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Suspect election in Iran?
Have results verified by old pal Jimmy Carter... ;^) -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth

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QUESTION
Posted by: Ahimsa on Jun 19, 2009 11:22 AM   
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Is the root of this division a double ethnicity/religion issue?
Is it about Persians Vs. Arabs?
Could Iran split, like India and Pakistan?

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The obvious question
Posted by: Archie1954 on Jun 20, 2009 12:42 PM   
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that must be asked if things get progressively worse is how Khameini, Amhadinejad and the oppressive religious forces in Iran differ from the Shah and his hated Savak? This should be pointedly asked as a reminder of what the original revolution was all about to begin with.

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Dreyfuss supported the Shah, Reagan and Lyndon Larouche!
Posted by: RedAaron on Jun 30, 2009 3:07 AM   
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The World Socialist Web Site has outed The Nation's Robert Dreyfuss as a supporter of the Shah and of Ronald Reagan, in collaboration with Lyndon Larouche. See The Nation’s man in Tehran: Who is Robert Dreyfuss? and The propaganda war against Iran.

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