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AlterNet Takes on Shock Jock Michael Savage and Gets Threatened With a Lawsuit
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Michael Savage, right-wing crusader against gays, immigrants, Muslims, Barack Obama, Britain, women, (and possibly puppies), may have found a new object for his wrath: groups that have the temerity to publicize the vicious talk-show host’s connection to Rockstar energy drink -- and to call for a boycott by consumers opposed to Savage's hatemongering.
As part of AlterNet's 10 Hottest Campaigns section, we published a piece alerting readers to a boycott against the Rockstar products. The campaign, launched by Charles C.C. Tsai on Facebook, brought attention to the connection between Savage and the energy drink company. Tsai's page pointed out that Savage's son, Russell Weiner, is the founder and CEO of Rockstar. Savage's wife serves as director of energy drink company, and Savage Productions shares an address with Rockstar(!).
On May 27, the same day the piece was published, Rockstar’s lawyers sent AlterNet a letter accusing us of defamation. The letter read, in part:
Mr. Savage is not affiliated with Rockstar in any manner. Alternet.org’s use of the article to tie Rockstar to Mr. Savage’s statements is wholly improper. Not only does it place Rockstar in a false light, but it constitutes defamation, both of which are objectional.
The offices of Glaser, Weil, Fink, Jacobs, Howard & Shapiro, also demanded an "immediate public retraction of these statements and an apology in substantially as conspicuous a matter on AlterNet.org as the defamatory statements were published."
So, we "apologized," sort of. Here’s what we said:
Lawyers from Rockstar have written AlterNet threatening to sue us because they claim that Michael Savage (aka Weiner) is not a "co-founder" of the Rockstar drink company, as was described in our item, but rather his son, Russell Weiner, is the CEO and principle shareholder, and that Savage has never been an officer, director, employee or shareholder, of the company. AlterNet does not have any specific knowledge of family discussions, meetings, etc., that led to the formation of the company to be able to prove that he was a "co-founder."
Nevertheless, a dictionary definition of "co-founder" offers: "to establish or found in concert with another or others." Thus, it would require, perhaps, for Savage and his son to deny they ever spoke about the founding of the company in order for Savage to be unqualified as a founder. The definition of co-founder doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with ownership, shareholding, etc.
That being said, in the absence of proof of the inner workings of the Weiner family, we retract the comment that Michael Savage was a "co-founder" of the beverage company and offer apologies, if somehow that characterization casts aspersions on any members of the Weiner family, or Savage himself.
Others have also been compelled to write retractions and say “I'm sorry." Gaywired, which published a story about TheTruthAboutRockstar.com, issued this statement.
Meanwhile, Tsai and his Facebook group fared far worse after taking on Rockstar and Savage:
"I made a group to let others know and be able to make a similar choice if they wanted; the group was formed, and it quickly grew to over 12,000 members." Tsai, says in a statement. “In it, we put together a list of quotations from Michael Savage Weiner, as well as his son, that we strongly did not agree with."
Tsai continues:
We also put commonly known information, such as the fact that they co-founded the extremely conservative Paul Revere society, which openly calls for actions such as “eliminate bilingual education in all states" and "traditional marriage." More easily proven information was included as well.
Tana Ganeva is an associate editor at AlterNet.
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Posted by: weathered on Jun 10, 2009 1:52 AM
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Rockstar is a cheap, junk drink, a RedBull-shit wanabe.
Its gotta come off someone's truck, find out call them there's nothing more effective than a "Savage Weiner".
AlterNet tell Savage's attorney your readership demands disclosure of the distributors of consumer goods as a matter of public record. Enjoin the distributors as part of a clarification dispute listing the retail store customers carrying the brand.
WE can be effective.
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» RE: Crush a can of "Rockstar"
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» Can you prove that?
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» RE: Can you prove that?
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» RE: Can you prove that?
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» RE: Can you prove that?
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» RE: I am a actual terror victim of shock jock radio
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» RE: I am a actual terror victim of shock jock radio; do you talk to someone about this?
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» RE: Don't worry, I have been, Kaiser 'mental health'
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» RE: Don't worry, I have been, Kaiser 'mental health'
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» Not to worry, Lauren
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» RE: Not to worry, Lauren
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» Is your name Lauren?
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» RE: Is your name Lauren?
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» RE: Is your name Lauren?
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» RE: Not to worry, Lauren
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» Can't boycot...
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Jun 10, 2009 2:19 AM
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I do like to think, however, that my efforts to inform progressives - in various forums - of the evil of the savage wiener have had some little effect.
This piece of nonhuman excrement truly deseres the fate he unjustly advocates for liberals with his eliminationist rhetoric.
Calling us "scum", "filth", "vermin" and whatever else can communicate the idea to even the most dimwitted of his followers that we liberals deserve only death, (What, after all, is the appropriate response to an infestation of "vermin"?) he attempts nightly to instill them with a burning need to ACT on his tirades "for the sake of the children."
He contends that our very existence is a threat to lovers of freedom, democracy and innocent children everywhere. We are perverts, you see, and if we continue to live, the most horrible of fates will befall right-thinking Christians, Americans, and all of their children. He says it with such passion and with so much repetition that is is very surprising that that there isn't more violence linked to his demagoguery than is already the case.
With his batteries of lawyers, he skates as close to the edge of outright advocacy for mass murder as is possible to do, narrowly avoiding clear evidence that he is in fact guilty of incitement to riot, treason, and direct advocacy of murder.
Words can kill. They DO kill. Just ask any Mafia Don, the shades of Hitler and Goebbels and the Hutu in Ruanda, who took over the radio stations and commenced a genocide against the Tsutsies in that country - or the friends and relatives of Dr. Tiller.
That this piece of vomitus is allowed his rants nightly on my public airwaves licensed in my name to serve the public interest without even having to fear a reply to refute his lies is simply beyond belief.
This is NOT free speech, it is criminal. I want that bastard off the air and under the jail.
Once again, I beg my progressive friends to actually listen to his program just once if you have not done so already. It will scare hell out of you. If you have not already done so, it is likely you think I exaggerate. That just isn't possible.
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» RE:As I kick back with my IMPORTED MEXICAN COCA-COLA...
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» RE: As I kick back with my IMPORTED MEXICAN COCA-COLA...
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» RE: I have the same reaction to Savage you do
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» RE: As I kick back with my IMPORTED MEXICAN COCA-COLA...
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» You said it, Michael Savage is a hoot!
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» RE: I wish I drank that crap
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» RE: I wish I drank that crap
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» You do not exaggerate
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Posted by: strahlungsamt on Jun 10, 2009 2:27 AM
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See them here: http://www.nambla.org (don't worry - it's protected free speech).
Him and Weiner were best buddies back in the day. I can't imagine the publicity value such a picture would bring.
Anyone???
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» RE:ALLEN GINSBERG WAS A NO-TALENT, DRUG ADDICT,KHAZAR BUM!
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» Wow, talk about Hate Speech...
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» RE: Wow, talk about Hate Speech...
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» RE: Wow, talk about Hate Speech...
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» I see that some of the STUPIDEST minds of our...
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» RE: ALLEN GINSBERG WAS A NO-TALENT, DRUG ADDICT,KHAZAR BUM!
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» RE: Anyone got naked pix of Weiner with Ginsberg
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» Ginsberg WAS a Member of NAMBLA -- But for Political Reasons, Not for Pedophilia
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» RE: Ginsberg WAS a Member of NAMBLA -- But for Political Reasons, Not for Pedophilia
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» RE: Ginsberg WAS a Member of NAMBLA -- But for Political Reasons, Not for Pedophilia
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» Ginsberg was certainly not the founder of NAMBLA
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» RE: Anyone got naked pix of Weiner with Ginsberg
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» Sorry... I should have read further down to the other posts...
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 10, 2009 2:50 AM
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It has always been obvious that Michael Weiner only respects the Second Amendment when it pertains to him. Apparently the entire Weiner family has a problem with it.
Lenny Bruce's House
Tom Degan
Gsohen, NY
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» RE: I THINK MICHAEL SAVAGE IS HILARIOUS..GREAT COMEDY
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» Gee and isn't it cool how he can spew hatred with impunity, yet
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» RE: It attracts teenaged and preteen boys
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» I think the kind of guy who would change his name from "Weiner" to "Savage" would also. . .
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» OOPS!
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» Just a technical error Tom, it applies to all of them !
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» RE: Savage Litte Weiner (Love Your Lenny Bruce piece.)
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Posted by: zodiac12 on Jun 10, 2009 3:04 AM
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» Doesn't matter much if they actually believe it or not
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Posted by: GerryAttric on Jun 10, 2009 3:23 AM
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I am one and without Facebook I can tell two friends who can also tell two friends, and so on and so on and so on...
Wasn't that great commercial?
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 10, 2009 4:28 AM
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Racism,like sexism, is nothing more than the overreaction to fear. Fearful if not given carte blanc, the group will be unable to make the grade. What I hear when racist/sexist start their nervous chatter is the lack of self esteem, lack of confidence in their own demographics abilities.What this really reveals is their own Self Loathing.by projecting this self hate outward the (inaccurately) assume no one else will recognize their own short comings or more accurately their perception of their own shortfalls.
To Those in the Right Wing Hate/fearmongering fringe....Have a Lil' SELF Respect.
I Truely believe that even if the playing field is leveled- you too could still be a contender!
Perhaps instead of using the word 'Koolaid' when discussing the sociopathic ideologies which intoxicate and poison the Far Right we should begin referring to it as the 'RockStar' they've been drinking...does that contain a hallucingenic, a steriod or just Lead.
New advertising campaign 'Screw the Wings, Get Ragin' Retardation with Delusions of Granduer with Rockstar!' And doesn't that typify more what rockstars become? Maybe the product name says more about it then they had actually intended. Janis Joplin, Jim Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain....Ya Baby that's exactly what I want an Energy Drink to do for me!
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» Ha!! Perfect.
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» RE: "Taste the Hate"- RockStars new Slogan?
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» RE: Sad - DO NOT CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINK!! IDENTITY THEFT WARNING!!!
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» RE: Sad - DO NOT CLICK ON THE ABOVE LINK!! IDENTITY THEFT WARNING!!!
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Posted by: moenbailey on Jun 10, 2009 5:34 AM
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» RE: I will never use facebook and I will never touch a Rockstar product!
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» I hear ya!
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Posted by: Tweck9 on Jun 10, 2009 6:03 AM
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"Boycott ROCKSTAR Energy Drink - co-founded by hatemonger Michael Savage - pass it on! I vow to never touch another can. Fuck you, Weiners!"
It's the longest length possible for a twitter post.
Maybe we can generate a flurry of status updates with this exercise of free speech on them. It won't accomplish much, but every little thing counts.
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» RE: Screw these hateful, arrogant nazi wankers!
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» RE: Screw these hateful, arrogant nazi wankers!
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Posted by: parrotuya on Jun 10, 2009 6:05 AM
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DOWn, baby, DOWn!
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Posted by: rimchamp77 on Jun 10, 2009 6:13 AM
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Posted by: inprov73 on Jun 10, 2009 6:18 AM
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Posted by: maxfrisson on Jun 10, 2009 6:24 AM
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Rockstar is partnered with MAKITA Power Tools and SUZUKI motorcycles to sponsor several top off-road and roadracing motorcycle teams. This is an important branding effort by the beverage in question as Red Bull, Monster, AMP and others have successfully used this niche of motorsports marketing to establish market awareness. That's how I came to know Red Bull.
SUZUKI and MAKITA are Japanese companies and as such have a corporate culture that avoids controversy. Probably not hard to find some Anti-Japanese quotes from MS. This is a multicultural youth market where the right-wing rants of Mike won't play well.
Pushing awareness of the links to the Weiners to their marketing partners could hurt them in this arena. I know that few riders and motorcycle fans know of the evil insidious links to one of America's worst embarrassments.
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» RE: Probably not hard to find some Anti-Japanese quotes from MS
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Posted by: SufiLizard on Jun 10, 2009 7:28 AM
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I can't really boycott, because I don't drink that crap, but now I'm armed with information whenever I see someone else drink it.
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Posted by: KAB on Jun 10, 2009 7:51 AM
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Posted by: magiquarian1969 on Jun 10, 2009 8:07 AM
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» RE: Weiner is actually trying to sue for defamation? PUH-LEASE!
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Posted by: bizeeb on Jun 10, 2009 8:51 AM
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'Nevertheless, a dictionary definition of "co-founder" offers: "to establish or found in concert with another or others." Thus, it would require, perhaps, for Savage and his son to deny they ever spoke about the founding of the company in order for Savage to be unqualified as a founder. The definition of co-founder doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with ownership, shareholding, etc.'
What a bunch of Clintonesque, lawyerly crap! By this logic, lots of Jeff Bezos' friends could claim to be co-founders of amazon.com simply because he discussed the idea w/them.
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Posted by: Finnegansawake on Jun 10, 2009 9:16 AM
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On top of that, people should really start paying attention to who is funding these sites, and thereby getting access to your information, Facebook in particular
So what to do? It would be silly to give up on organizing via the internet, but people should be looking to organize via social networks that aren't driven by advertising and marketing. The RiseUp.net collective has been developing a social network to address these very challenges: Crabgrass. Granted the software underlying it is still in its nascency, but people need to be aware of options other than facebook and myspace for organizing political movements.
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Posted by: billwald on Jun 10, 2009 10:20 AM
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Posted by: apefist on Jun 10, 2009 11:32 AM
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Posted by: Bearzerker on Jun 10, 2009 12:21 PM
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gdi i luved that movie
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» RE: rockstar... its got electrolytes
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» RE: rockstar... its got electrolytes
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Posted by: SickOfSophistry on Jun 10, 2009 12:22 PM
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So a false statement isn't defamatory on its own, but only if it says something bad about someone. That means RockStar's lawyers are claiming that connecting their company with Savage is automatically an insult to the company. I might have to agree with them about that.
One other thing: Apparently, the making of false, derogatory statements about entire races, ethnic groups, genders, etc., is perfectly okay, at least in Savage world.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jun 10, 2009 12:46 PM
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I'm #10,001.
Fuck their lawyers, I'm willing to wager a simple public doc search including corporate filings and the dba filing will protect everyone the Savage-Weiner fuckers have gone huntin' fer. Time to kick some Nazi-ass.
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Posted by: 4changenow on Jun 10, 2009 1:47 PM
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Posted by: Jdog on Jun 10, 2009 2:02 PM
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Posted by: nickspm on Jun 10, 2009 2:31 PM
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It appears that he is. So there is nothing wrong with saying that Michael Savage is the father of Russel Weiner, the founder and CEO of Rockstar (The energy drink, as long as it is true. There is no libel. There is no defamation. It's simply a fact. I noticed the the lawyers didn't deny the relationship between the two individuals.
What next? 2+2=4
Hey you can't speak about 4 that way.
Please, courts don't take kindly to frivolous lawsuits.
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Posted by: LoveAlex59 on Jun 10, 2009 3:37 PM
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Posted by: mnstra on Jun 10, 2009 5:52 PM
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Posted by: jimmyaj on Jun 10, 2009 7:56 PM
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The whole system is rigged, the money game, the law game.
Come on, Obama, snap out of dream mode.
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Posted by: jimmyaj on Jun 10, 2009 7:56 PM
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The whole system is rigged, the money game, the law game.
Come on, Obama, snap out of dream mode.
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Posted by: nickspm on Jun 10, 2009 10:11 PM
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If an individual has already been banned from entering another country as a 'hate promoter' in the past. Consumers in that country might not be pleased to find out why their favorite product is being promoted elsewhere by someone unable to enter their own country.
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Posted by: L5 on Jun 10, 2009 10:53 PM
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Their lawyers are trying to spook alternet.
No time has even passed or any evidence gathered to to determine if any "false light" or "defamation" whatsoever, has actually occurred.
They also used the word "objectional" not the word "actionable" normally used by attorneys to threaten someone with a trip to court.
So why is Alternet even responding to these assholes?
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Posted by: aebaldwin on Jun 11, 2009 12:10 AM
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FIRST CHARGE: COFOUNDER
"Among the offensive misrepresentations about ROCKSTAR contained in the Group is the baseless statement that Michael Weiner, who is also known as Michael Savage, (“Mr. Savage”) is a co-founder of ROCKSTAR. Russell Weiner, ROCKSTAR's CEO and principal shareholder is the sole founder of ROCKSTAR and Mr. Savage is not and has never been an officer, director, employee or shareholder of ROCKSTAR."
From ROCKSTAR's OWN archived WEBSITE:
"I was very fortunate to have been raised by two of the leading herbalists in the world, Dr. and Mrs. MICHAEL WEINER, Ph.D. ... From my earliest walking days, I remember exploring the jungles of the South Pacific on expeditions WITH MY PARENTS. ... MY FAMILY HAS taken that spirit and experience - their lifetime journey - and DEVELOPED the most complete, most unique, most powerful, and most honest energy beverage ever created: ROCKSTAR." - CEO RUSSELL GOLDENCLOUD WEINER
(Recently disabled by Rockstar, but good thing I took a screen shot of it!)
Los Angeles Business Journal, November 29, 2004, Rebecca Flass - Interview - Bigger gulp: Russ Weiner liked Red Bull, so he launched Rockstar Beverages, a competing drink, and bought a Hollywood party house to promote it.
Q: How did you do come up with the drink?
A: My dad and mom have done consulting for GNC, Twin Lab, Nature's Herbs and Amway, developing products for them throughout the '80s and '90s. I also worked with a flavor company. It took a year-and-a-half and 700 formulas. I would tell them what I wanted it to taste like. I gave them the list of ingredients. And then, I'd tell them what to add in, what to take out, a little, more, let's say, vanilla, a little more raspberry. Lower the guarana, raise the ginseng level. Back and forth, literally, that's why it took so long.
Glaser, Weil, Fink, Jacobs, Howard & Shapiro, LLP
What I really find hilarious about all this, is on LegalZoom.com, co-founded by Robert Sharpiro of law firm of Glaser, Weil, Fink, Jacobs, Howard & Shapiro, LLP, again the firm that sent me the above mentioned letter....is the following statement: (see below)
"He did so with the help of his father Michael Weiner, who is better known as conservative talk show host Michael Savage. Savage also helps with the drink company along with wife Janet Weiner, who is her son's CFO. Many groups have refused to do business with Weiner and Rock Star because of the connection to Michael Savage. Both on his radio show and on his television program, Savage made comments about homosexuality and transgendered issues that were considered offensive. His views on immigration and civil rights have also caused controversy."
LegalZoom.com Article
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Posted by: Mr. Jones on Jun 12, 2009 10:57 PM
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Posted by: nickspm on Jun 13, 2009 9:43 AM
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Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Jun 14, 2009 9:12 AM
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Boy, that's all anyone needs to know... ha ha ha.
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Posted by: weathered on Jun 10, 2009 1:52 AM
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Rockstar is a cheap, junk drink, a RedBull-shit wanabe.
Its gotta come off someone's truck, find out call them there's nothing more effective than a "Savage Weiner".
AlterNet tell Savage's attorney your readership demands disclosure of the distributors of consumer goods as a matter of public record. Enjoin the distributors as part of a clarification dispute listing the retail store customers carrying the brand.
WE can be effective.
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Jun 10, 2009 2:19 AM
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I do like to think, however, that my efforts to inform progressives - in various forums - of the evil of the savage wiener have had some little effect.
This piece of nonhuman excrement truly deseres the fate he unjustly advocates for liberals with his eliminationist rhetoric.
Calling us "scum", "filth", "vermin" and whatever else can communicate the idea to even the most dimwitted of his followers that we liberals deserve only death, (What, after all, is the appropriate response to an infestation of "vermin"?) he attempts nightly to instill them with a burning need to ACT on his tirades "for the sake of the children."
He contends that our very existence is a threat to lovers of freedom, democracy and innocent children everywhere. We are perverts, you see, and if we continue to live, the most horrible of fates will befall right-thinking Christians, Americans, and all of their children. He says it with such passion and with so much repetition that is is very surprising that that there isn't more violence linked to his demagoguery than is already the case.
With his batteries of lawyers, he skates as close to the edge of outright advocacy for mass murder as is possible to do, narrowly avoiding clear evidence that he is in fact guilty of incitement to riot, treason, and direct advocacy of murder.
Words can kill. They DO kill. Just ask any Mafia Don, the shades of Hitler and Goebbels and the Hutu in Ruanda, who took over the radio stations and commenced a genocide against the Tsutsies in that country - or the friends and relatives of Dr. Tiller.
That this piece of vomitus is allowed his rants nightly on my public airwaves licensed in my name to serve the public interest without even having to fear a reply to refute his lies is simply beyond belief.
This is NOT free speech, it is criminal. I want that bastard off the air and under the jail.
Once again, I beg my progressive friends to actually listen to his program just once if you have not done so already. It will scare hell out of you. If you have not already done so, it is likely you think I exaggerate. That just isn't possible.
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Posted by: strahlungsamt on Jun 10, 2009 2:27 AM
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See them here: http://www.nambla.org (don't worry - it's protected free speech).
Him and Weiner were best buddies back in the day. I can't imagine the publicity value such a picture would bring.
Anyone???
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 10, 2009 2:50 AM
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It has always been obvious that Michael Weiner only respects the Second Amendment when it pertains to him. Apparently the entire Weiner family has a problem with it.
Lenny Bruce's House
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Gsohen, NY
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Posted by: GerryAttric on Jun 10, 2009 3:23 AM
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I am one and without Facebook I can tell two friends who can also tell two friends, and so on and so on and so on...
Wasn't that great commercial?
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 10, 2009 4:28 AM
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Racism,like sexism, is nothing more than the overreaction to fear. Fearful if not given carte blanc, the group will be unable to make the grade. What I hear when racist/sexist start their nervous chatter is the lack of self esteem, lack of confidence in their own demographics abilities.What this really reveals is their own Self Loathing.by projecting this self hate outward the (inaccurately) assume no one else will recognize their own short comings or more accurately their perception of their own shortfalls.
To Those in the Right Wing Hate/fearmongering fringe....Have a Lil' SELF Respect.
I Truely believe that even if the playing field is leveled- you too could still be a contender!
Perhaps instead of using the word 'Koolaid' when discussing the sociopathic ideologies which intoxicate and poison the Far Right we should begin referring to it as the 'RockStar' they've been drinking...does that contain a hallucingenic, a steriod or just Lead.
New advertising campaign 'Screw the Wings, Get Ragin' Retardation with Delusions of Granduer with Rockstar!' And doesn't that typify more what rockstars become? Maybe the product name says more about it then they had actually intended. Janis Joplin, Jim Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain....Ya Baby that's exactly what I want an Energy Drink to do for me!
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Posted by: Tweck9 on Jun 10, 2009 6:03 AM
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"Boycott ROCKSTAR Energy Drink - co-founded by hatemonger Michael Savage - pass it on! I vow to never touch another can. Fuck you, Weiners!"
It's the longest length possible for a twitter post.
Maybe we can generate a flurry of status updates with this exercise of free speech on them. It won't accomplish much, but every little thing counts.
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Posted by: parrotuya on Jun 10, 2009 6:05 AM
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DOWn, baby, DOWn!
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Posted by: maxfrisson on Jun 10, 2009 6:24 AM
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Rockstar is partnered with MAKITA Power Tools and SUZUKI motorcycles to sponsor several top off-road and roadracing motorcycle teams. This is an important branding effort by the beverage in question as Red Bull, Monster, AMP and others have successfully used this niche of motorsports marketing to establish market awareness. That's how I came to know Red Bull.
SUZUKI and MAKITA are Japanese companies and as such have a corporate culture that avoids controversy. Probably not hard to find some Anti-Japanese quotes from MS. This is a multicultural youth market where the right-wing rants of Mike won't play well.
Pushing awareness of the links to the Weiners to their marketing partners could hurt them in this arena. I know that few riders and motorcycle fans know of the evil insidious links to one of America's worst embarrassments.
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Posted by: SufiLizard on Jun 10, 2009 7:28 AM
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I can't really boycott, because I don't drink that crap, but now I'm armed with information whenever I see someone else drink it.
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Posted by: bizeeb on Jun 10, 2009 8:51 AM
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'Nevertheless, a dictionary definition of "co-founder" offers: "to establish or found in concert with another or others." Thus, it would require, perhaps, for Savage and his son to deny they ever spoke about the founding of the company in order for Savage to be unqualified as a founder. The definition of co-founder doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with ownership, shareholding, etc.'
What a bunch of Clintonesque, lawyerly crap! By this logic, lots of Jeff Bezos' friends could claim to be co-founders of amazon.com simply because he discussed the idea w/them.
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Posted by: Finnegansawake on Jun 10, 2009 9:16 AM
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On top of that, people should really start paying attention to who is funding these sites, and thereby getting access to your information, Facebook in particular
So what to do? It would be silly to give up on organizing via the internet, but people should be looking to organize via social networks that aren't driven by advertising and marketing. The RiseUp.net collective has been developing a social network to address these very challenges: Crabgrass. Granted the software underlying it is still in its nascency, but people need to be aware of options other than facebook and myspace for organizing political movements.
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Posted by: Bearzerker on Jun 10, 2009 12:21 PM
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gdi i luved that movie
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Posted by: SickOfSophistry on Jun 10, 2009 12:22 PM
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So a false statement isn't defamatory on its own, but only if it says something bad about someone. That means RockStar's lawyers are claiming that connecting their company with Savage is automatically an insult to the company. I might have to agree with them about that.
One other thing: Apparently, the making of false, derogatory statements about entire races, ethnic groups, genders, etc., is perfectly okay, at least in Savage world.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jun 10, 2009 12:46 PM
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I'm #10,001.
Fuck their lawyers, I'm willing to wager a simple public doc search including corporate filings and the dba filing will protect everyone the Savage-Weiner fuckers have gone huntin' fer. Time to kick some Nazi-ass.
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Posted by: Jdog on Jun 10, 2009 2:02 PM
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Posted by: nickspm on Jun 10, 2009 2:31 PM
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It appears that he is. So there is nothing wrong with saying that Michael Savage is the father of Russel Weiner, the founder and CEO of Rockstar (The energy drink, as long as it is true. There is no libel. There is no defamation. It's simply a fact. I noticed the the lawyers didn't deny the relationship between the two individuals.
What next? 2+2=4
Hey you can't speak about 4 that way.
Please, courts don't take kindly to frivolous lawsuits.
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Posted by: jimmyaj on Jun 10, 2009 7:56 PM
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The whole system is rigged, the money game, the law game.
Come on, Obama, snap out of dream mode.
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Posted by: jimmyaj on Jun 10, 2009 7:56 PM
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The whole system is rigged, the money game, the law game.
Come on, Obama, snap out of dream mode.
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Posted by: nickspm on Jun 10, 2009 10:11 PM
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If an individual has already been banned from entering another country as a 'hate promoter' in the past. Consumers in that country might not be pleased to find out why their favorite product is being promoted elsewhere by someone unable to enter their own country.
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Posted by: L5 on Jun 10, 2009 10:53 PM
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Their lawyers are trying to spook alternet.
No time has even passed or any evidence gathered to to determine if any "false light" or "defamation" whatsoever, has actually occurred.
They also used the word "objectional" not the word "actionable" normally used by attorneys to threaten someone with a trip to court.
So why is Alternet even responding to these assholes?
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Posted by: aebaldwin on Jun 11, 2009 12:10 AM
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FIRST CHARGE: COFOUNDER
"Among the offensive misrepresentations about ROCKSTAR contained in the Group is the baseless statement that Michael Weiner, who is also known as Michael Savage, (“Mr. Savage”) is a co-founder of ROCKSTAR. Russell Weiner, ROCKSTAR's CEO and principal shareholder is the sole founder of ROCKSTAR and Mr. Savage is not and has never been an officer, director, employee or shareholder of ROCKSTAR."
From ROCKSTAR's OWN archived WEBSITE:
"I was very fortunate to have been raised by two of the leading herbalists in the world, Dr. and Mrs. MICHAEL WEINER, Ph.D. ... From my earliest walking days, I remember exploring the jungles of the South Pacific on expeditions WITH MY PARENTS. ... MY FAMILY HAS taken that spirit and experience - their lifetime journey - and DEVELOPED the most complete, most unique, most powerful, and most honest energy beverage ever created: ROCKSTAR." - CEO RUSSELL GOLDENCLOUD WEINER
(Recently disabled by Rockstar, but good thing I took a screen shot of it!)
Los Angeles Business Journal, November 29, 2004, Rebecca Flass - Interview - Bigger gulp: Russ Weiner liked Red Bull, so he launched Rockstar Beverages, a competing drink, and bought a Hollywood party house to promote it.
Q: How did you do come up with the drink?
A: My dad and mom have done consulting for GNC, Twin Lab, Nature's Herbs and Amway, developing products for them throughout the '80s and '90s. I also worked with a flavor company. It took a year-and-a-half and 700 formulas. I would tell them what I wanted it to taste like. I gave them the list of ingredients. And then, I'd tell them what to add in, what to take out, a little, more, let's say, vanilla, a little more raspberry. Lower the guarana, raise the ginseng level. Back and forth, literally, that's why it took so long.
Glaser, Weil, Fink, Jacobs, Howard & Shapiro, LLP
What I really find hilarious about all this, is on LegalZoom.com, co-founded by Robert Sharpiro of law firm of Glaser, Weil, Fink, Jacobs, Howard & Shapiro, LLP, again the firm that sent me the above mentioned letter....is the following statement: (see below)
"He did so with the help of his father Michael Weiner, who is better known as conservative talk show host Michael Savage. Savage also helps with the drink company along with wife Janet Weiner, who is her son's CFO. Many groups have refused to do business with Weiner and Rock Star because of the connection to Michael Savage. Both on his radio show and on his television program, Savage made comments about homosexuality and transgendered issues that were considered offensive. His views on immigration and civil rights have also caused controversy."
LegalZoom.com Article
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Posted by: Mr. Jones on Jun 12, 2009 10:57 PM
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Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Jun 14, 2009 9:12 AM
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Boy, that's all anyone needs to know... ha ha ha.
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