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Bill Moyers: How Can We Expect an Industry That Profits from Disease and Sickness to Police Itself?

By Bill Moyers and Michael Winship, AlterNet. Posted May 24, 2009.


The health care industry has spent $134 million on lobbying this year to keep its profits high and public health in the shadows.
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In 2003, a young Illinois state senator named Barack Obama told a local AFL-CIO meeting, “I am a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program.”

Single payer. Universal. That’s health coverage, like Medicare, but for everyone who wants it. Single payer eliminates insurance companies as pricey middlemen. The government pays care providers directly. It’s a system that polls consistently have shown the American people favoring by as much as two-to-one.

There was only one thing standing in the way, Obama said six years ago: “All of you know we might not get there immediately because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate and we have to take back the House.”

Fast forward six years. President Obama has everything he said was needed – Democrats in control of the executive branch and both chambers of Congress. So what’s happened to single payer?

A woman at his town hall meeting in New Mexico last week asked him exactly that. “If I were starting a system from scratch, then I think that the idea of moving towards a single-payer system could very well make sense,” the President replied. “That's the kind of system that you have in most industrialized countries around the world.

“The only problem is that we're not starting from scratch. We have historically a tradition of employer-based health care. And although there are a lot of people who are not satisfied with their health care, the truth is, is that the vast majority of people currently get health care from their employers and you've got this system that's already in place. We don't want a huge disruption as we go into health care reform where suddenly we're trying to completely reinvent one-sixth of the economy.”

So the banks were too big to fail and now, apparently, health care is too big to fix, at least the way a majority of people indicate they would like it to be fixed, with a single payer option. President Obama favors a public health plan competing with the medical cartel that he hopes will create a real market that would bring down costs. But single payer has vanished from his radar.

Nor is single payer getting much coverage in the mainstream media. Barely a mention was given to the hundreds of doctors, nurses and other health care professionals who came to Washington last week to protest the absence of official debate over single payer.

Is it the proverbial tree falling in the forest, making a noise that journalists can’t or won’t hear? Could the indifference of the press be because both the President of the United States and Congress have been avoiding single payer like, well, like the plague? As we see so often, government officials set the agenda by what they do and don’t talk about.

Instead, President Obama is looking for consensus, seeking peace among all the parties involved. Except for single payer advocates. At that big White House powwow in Washington last week, the President asked representatives of the health care business to reason together with him. “What's brought us all together today is a recognition that we can't continue down the same dangerous road we've been traveling for so many years,” he said, “ that costs are out of control; and that reform is not a luxury that can be postponed, but a necessity that cannot wait.”

They came, listened, made nice for the photo op and while they failed to participate in a hearty chorus of “Kumbaya,” they did promise to cut health care costs voluntarily over the next ten years. The press ate it up – and Mr. Obama was a happy man.

Meanwhile, some of us looking on – those of us who’ve been around a long time – were scratching our heads. Hadn’t we heard this before?

Way, way back in the 1970’s Americans were riled up over the rising costs of health care. As a presidential candidate, Jimmy Carter started talking about the government clamping down. When he got to the White House, drug makers, insurance companies, hospitals and doctors – the very people who only a decade earlier had done everything they could to strangle Medicare in the cradle – seemed uncharacteristically humble and cooperative. “You don’t have to make us cut costs,” they promised. “We’ll do it voluntarily.”

So Uncle Sam backed down, and you guessed it. Pretty soon medical costs were soaring higher than ever.

By the early ‘90s, the public was once again hurting in the pocketbook. Feeling our pain, Bill and Hillary Clinton tried again, coming up with a plan only slightly more complicated than the schematics for an F-18 fighter jet.

This time the health industry acted more like Tony Soprano than Mother Teresa. It bludgeoned the Clinton reforms with one of the most expensive and deceitful public relations and advertising campaigns ever conceived – paid for, of course, from the industry’s swollen profits.


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Michael Winship co-wrote this article. Bill Moyers is managing editor and Michael Winship is senior writer of the weekly public affairs program Bill Moyers Journal, which airs Friday nights on PBS. Check local airtimes or comment at The Moyers Blog at www.pbs.org/moyers.

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Posted by: JSquercia on May 25, 2009 3:15 PM   
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I watched Bill Moyers on PBS the other night and the Topic was Universal Health Care . The show was quite good .
What was most interesting was the point that the people of Canada picked as the most Influential and Respected Polition of the 20TH Century The man who brouht the Canadian Health Insurance into existence during the early 70's . The plan is so popular that even when the Conservatives do gain office they are loathe to touch it .
It seems rediculous to me that we can not even speak of Single payer when the majority of people want it.
Medicare has been a great boom for the ederly in spite of the Republican attempts to sabitoge it . They pay a premium of 15% to the copanies that offer Private Insurance and the refused to allow the Perscription Drug Plan to be administered by Medicare but came up with the idea of having Private Insurance Companies administer it . The refused to let the Government negotiate Prices as the VA does . This results in higher costs .I understand that once enrolled you can NOT change Plans even if the Plan changes its formulary and removes your drug . Nice deal we sign you up under one set of Conditions but we can Arbitrarily change the conditions and you can do nothing about it

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Why Do So Many Politicians Hate Americans?
Posted by: ranchero42 on May 26, 2009 12:28 AM   
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What else should we think when they let us know that we are not worthy of the health care THEY receive...courtesy of the taxpayer. We're not asking for love, just a little quid pro quo for the effort, ya know?

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X pat observer
Posted by: davy on May 26, 2009 1:50 AM   
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Bill,

I am an expat yank living in Scotland. Recently we had an American friend who had lived here for 5 years return. She has Leukemia and has come back to die/live. She had "good" health ins back in the US and went through about a million bucks on chemo after chemo. She got fed up and came here to stay with two great pals. Last week she went to Aberdeen and talked to a doctor. "FINALLY" she said, that she actually met with a doctor who talked to her as an adult human and did not simply say, "You need more chemo." Humm. Now she is trying to get her ins to pay for her bone marrow op here in Glasgow in our "inferior" health care system. Yup, and us Brit citizens pay NOTHING for our care. Funny world huh ??? Sorry America, it can't last, you are out of control.

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the UK does two things better than the US and they are connected
Posted by: Suzon on May 26, 2009 2:48 AM   
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The National Health Service was brought into being by a post-WWII socialist government. My first experience of it was in 1987 when I dislocated a shoulder. I walked in, was seen and treated, and walked out again without having to fill out a single form or sign anything, much less establish that I was covered by insurance. Americans can only dream of this at the moment.

The second thing that the UK does better is short and relatively cheap elections, both local and national. The campaigning is limited to weeks, not months and years and no TV advertising is allowed, only a couple of free five minute slots for the political parties.

Reform the US electoral system by banning corporate campaign donations and TV advertising and universal health care immediately becomes a real possibility.

Another benefit would be a less angry and corrupt society--a real boost to the health of all concerned.

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So much for the theory that progressives are smart
Posted by: Perry Logan on May 26, 2009 3:08 AM   
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In my attempts to look at the big picture, I see America as coming off a 30-year right-wing jag, during which we were told over and over again that businessmen are the super-race and can do no long.

It seems like yesterday you had to genuflect when you said "deregulation." It was made very clear that all our problems come from government (Ssss!), the free market is the perfect system and never fails, tax cuts boost the ecomony, greed works, money trickles down, etc., etc.

Keep in mind, this started in the 1980s, when IQs in the U.S. were at an all-time low. Most people just walked around drooling back then.

Americans had reached a phenomenal level of stupidity--so the Repuboican Revolution began.

After 30 years of delusional policies, the Republicans lie bleeding on the ground, and the country needs FDR on steroids...

But--as the blog Liberal Rapture has observed--Obama turns out to be some kinda Gorbachov--far more likely to screw our chances for universal healthcare (or any othe progressive goal you can name) than to give us the progressive policies we need.

If you clear away the webs of cognitive dissonance, you'll see Obama not just bad, but catastrophically bad. If anyone can save the neocon agenda, he can. He completely refutes the notion that progressives are smart.



Perry da Banksta

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Ideology is the real enemy...
Posted by: CatDad on May 26, 2009 3:12 AM   
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The USA adheres to free market capitalism on a level not unlike Stalin adhered to communism...Capitalism is our national ideology (at least of our leaders in business and government) and they don't want to admit that the free market system has failed. Regardless of the obvious benefits of a single payer system, creating such a system would be a blatant admission that the free market has failed. Conservatives will go to ridiculous lengths to protect their discredited ideology when it comes to health care, as was evidenced of their rejection of SCHIP in the last years of the George W. regime. As always, new Democratic presidents have a way of "getting with the program" once elected. Obama is no exception.

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business of medicine
Posted by: sunnywater on May 26, 2009 3:35 AM   
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Since the current method in the US is to view health as a product and the provision of health care as an industry, there are many sound commercial reasons for the way in which such care is made available, and as long as the concept af 'health as product' remains the standard, it's likely that progress on certain chronic diseases will not be too pronounced because the long term investment in treating chronic diseases might be jeopardized by a too comprehensive cure, or other treatment.

Not that individual health professionals do not seek to end diseases, only that the current perspective on the nature and goals of health care are such that the industry is inclined to continue to want to earn as much as possible from a predictable source, that is chronic conditions which are cash cows of the medical industry.

When the availability of health care becomes a matter of public service, this state of affairs might change.

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Stop piddling around and get it done
Posted by: vioibi on May 26, 2009 3:53 AM   
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There are many Americans who are suffering needlessly because they can't afford basic health care. The US is the only developed country that doesn't have universal health care. Democracy doesn't mean you have the right not to get health care when you need it or go broke trying to pay for major conditions such as cancer care. Basic health care should be the right of all citizens. It should be a national priority. Stay well.

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Bill Moyers Way Off-base
Posted by: Lloydmillerus on May 26, 2009 4:36 AM   
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>>>Bill Moyers: How Can We Expect an Industry That Profits from Disease and Sickness to Police Itself?

This is a lie. Hospitals and Doctors profit from disease and sickness. Insurance companies profit when they collect premiums and no one gets sick.

How about a little discussion of the grave problems of waiting lists and treatment/drug rationing in Countries with socialized medicine (single payer?).

In America you can go to the hospital dirt poor without insurance and get treated. This is a tremendous ADVANCE over anything in Canada, England, etc.

Single payer is a covert method of rationing health care, letting people suffer and die, to solve "budget" problems.

America is the the leader in medical technologies because we don't have "single payer".

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Single Payer Voting Bloc
Posted by: Fredh on May 26, 2009 4:39 AM   
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If you would like to help pressure Congress with your vote to pass single payer health care please join our voting bloc at:
http://www.votingbloc.org/Health_Bloc.php

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Fat Lady hasn't hit the Crescendo yet
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 26, 2009 4:48 AM   
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Much like the self destructiveness of the Repug Party- Corps are creating a arguement against their own privatized system, and this time the people are really hearing their double speak and heartless greed.
First they come hat in hand, smiling, then days latter stab the President in the back.
Obama has extended the Laural leaf- but that does not mean he does not have the dagger in the other hand behind his back.
I don't think a Public Program is not on the Table- I think it is the table. first let's all get a lil' dose of Reality- there is no way we can magically convert the entire system and every citizen to a Single payer program- it will be a fiasco due to massive influx, confusion and job loss- not to mention economic ramifications on an a national level.
But the opportunity to begin conversion through attrition is not only feasible- but practical.
If you have a winning hand you don't just scream it out during the first round of betting- you let the kitty grow, wait for all to tap out then take the pot.
So you don't announce you are going to institute a Public Program- you get the private healthcare corps to reduce costs, make concessions, get it in writing and make it stick- then you lay down the public program. Thus not only offering a better alternative- but also helping lower pricing for those who chose or must stay in the private system- that way you don't get a flood of people converting over at the same time- like avoiding a run on the Banks.
The Goal is to have Every citizen covered under some form of Healthcare, to have access to quality affordable care, regardless of the 'payor'. Plus we have the ludicrous national mantra of 'Market Forces are king'- so use it. Offer people the same services & coverage as the Private industry at a lower cost and the people will move towards it. This will require these corps to lower prices and incease services further to keep competitve. Some of these corps will be unable to compete,so they will go extinct. considering the mass numbers who will most likely join a program not dependent on employment- which also has the stronger purchasing power because of the numbers of subscribers- the Private Corps who are able will have to meet the same standards as the Public system- and at that point who cares which is paying. Except the Service providers who may perfer the convenience and easy of the Public system- so they will focus more on servicing those patients & customers for the mere cost effectiveness (less employees required for billing Dept).
But I am not saying we should Tip the Presidents hand in this Healthcare Porker Game- Keep Screaming that Single payer is being ignored- it keeps up the Rouse that Obama doesn't have an Ace in the Hole- Let them keep throwing their meager bets into the Kitty.Then when Obama Throws down his Full House Public Program- we take the offering they threw in the Pot in hopes of winning again this time-Thus helping not only the Uninsured but all those who are stuck in the programs they have contracts with (unions) ,thus sparing the employees of these Corps Pink slips until we can slowly feed them into the public sector program, Retrain them or reduce them through attrition.
Conyere 676 is a great plan for a modulated conversion- but Obama can't tip his hand until the Corps stop making concession in their own programs first.

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Canadian Single Payer System has Major Problems
Posted by: pgrand on May 26, 2009 4:58 AM   
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Single payer Canadian health care is a huge mistake that doesn't work like many would hope (including myself). Many people living within 25 miles of the Canadian border (or who know lots of Canadians) know this.

I'm on the ski patrol at a mountain right next to the Canadian border - 1/2 of our ski patrolman (and women) are Canadian. Here are a couple of stories giving examples of what is wrong with their (Canadian) one-payer system.

1. A 29-year-old ski patrol man fell May 2008 while biking. He tore up his knee badly (ACL/MCL) and needed an MRI. (His real life job - a rep for a bicycle company). He was told this was an ELECTIVE procedure and he would have to wait until Sept. 2009. He got it done in 3 weeks by asking his mother (a medical secretary) who got her boss to call another doctor.

2. A 25-year-old ski patrolman fell Dec 2008 and broke his ankle (His real life job - a Phys Ed instructor in public school). He was told he would have to wait until April 2009 to see an orthopedic surgeon because this was ELECTIVE surgery. He had no connections to turn to in the public system or the money for a private doctor, so he waited - and had the ankle re broken and reset.

This is not saying that the Canadian system doesn't do things well. The last accident of the season a Canadian patient had a 4"x 1/2" deep gash - we bandaged him and he said he would have to wait 4+hrs at the hospital to get it sewed up - this IS acceptable to me - but many things are not.

In the Canadian health care system facilities and services are limited to keep costs down - Example - there are approx 3 MRI machines in the public system for the greater Montreal area - population 3.6 million.

Currently in Canada, private clinics are flourishing because the public system is rife with problems. It is not a panacea - ask a Canadian.

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Stupid lobbyist
Posted by: JDutty6 on May 26, 2009 5:27 AM   
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Why don they call "lobbying" what it really is? Bribery is what it boils down too. Lubing all the right pockets to get a favorable decision! Nothing less, nothing more. Until that changes, the US will always be a big JOKE to the outside world. politician's and law makers are bought and paid for!

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Anyone who needs proof of Operation MOCKINGBIRD propadanda's power . . .
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 26, 2009 6:14 AM   
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Anyone who needs an object lesson in corporate government propaganda should consider a nation that talks about "medical insurance" for the individual and in fact provides it for the health care industry itself - the doctors and hospitals.

The insured individual is insured that he gets a staggering bill regardless of his insurance coverage, while the doctors and hospital get assurance of being paid. And that's health care insurance.

Whew! Talk about Mind Control!

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take them on -- for real this time
Posted by: garella on May 26, 2009 6:33 AM   
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On target as usual. But there is problem element in this article: It wasn't bludgeoning by the health industry that took out the Clinton plan -- in fact, that plan was strongly influenced by the nation's five largest health insurers.
While smaller insurers bitterly opposed it (they would have been crushed), the big five quietly supported it.
Since Americans generally hate the health care insurance industry, the Clintons preferred to portray themselves as fighting that industry. In fact they were partnering with its dominant elements.
Their plan would have been by far the biggest privatization in history, giving to the big five control of the two-thirds of the health care cash flow that they didn't yet control.
The reason the plan (thankfully) failed was that it was too complex for the public to understand. It did not clearly address the problems we are aware of. There was no groundswell of popular support, and for good reason: it wasn't radical enough.
The only way to fix this problem is to remove the entire health insurance industry from the equation. To do that, the bulk of the population must be offered a simple, straightforward reform that we can understand. That's single-payer.
It will be a battle royal, but it is one we can win if the people and the President fight on the same side. Now is the time.

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When is an Industry a Service?
Posted by: Jinx on May 26, 2009 6:39 AM   
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As long as health care service is considered an industry by our nation there will be no change in how we get our care, what it's charges are or will we really see break throughs in research that produce cures. People are handled the same as the fords on assembly lines in Detroit. We think cars are terrific why wouldn't we accept the same production line thinking in our health industry? We are furious with our youth for being druggies....look to your own medicine cabinet for the real druggies. Once we bought from the snake oil man now we get it from the local drugstore chain. broken bones are fixed by technicans, doctors do assembly line operations and leave, LPN's do the daily care in hospitals that are bottom line oriented. I know, I have been there all too recently. We have accepted this like sheep. We must become the lions that roar not lie down next to the sheep. First deprive the elected officials of all benefits beyond a minimum wage salary and see how the "industry" wilts from lack of customers. Second no more advertising on media outlets, just like the tobacco ads are gone. Third, don't expect so much from your employers and do more for yourselves.

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When is an Industry a Service?
Posted by: Jinx on May 26, 2009 6:41 AM   
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As long as health care service is considered an industry by our nation there will be no change in how we get our care, what it's charges are or will we really see break throughs in research that produce cures. People are handled the same as the fords on assembly lines in Detroit. We think cars are terrific why wouldn't we accept the same production line thinking in our health industry? We are furious with our youth for being druggies....look to your own medicine cabinet for the real druggies. Once we bought from the snake oil man now we get it from the local drugstore chain. broken bones are fixed by technicans, doctors do assembly line operations and leave, LPN's do the daily care in hospitals that are bottom line oriented. I know, I have been there all too recently. We have accepted this like sheep. We must become the lions that roar not lie down next to the sheep. First deprive the elected officials of all benefits beyond a minimum wage salary and see how the "industry" wilts from lack of customers. Second no more advertising on media outlets, just like the tobacco ads are gone. Third, don't expect so much from your employers and do more for yourselves.

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134 million lobbying money is small potatoes
Posted by: LemonLunch on May 26, 2009 6:49 AM   
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If you consider how many citizens live in this country who need single payer, a measly $5 or $10 / person donation would quickly dwarf the 134m that the insurance companies are bribing our congress. We the people could learn to play the game and bribe congress ourselves with our potentially much larger amount. Forget about voting, just hire our own lobbyist to payoff congress and play the game like the corporations.

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Why Reinvent the Wheel?
Posted by: jpinsatx on May 26, 2009 7:13 AM   
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Hmmm… Health Care for ALL Americans is Simple!

By Utilizing Existing Systems...

1) MERGE Medicare with Medicaide into one single "Income Based" system for poor and elderly citizens.

2) REQUIRE insurance companies to provide the same basic coverage for ALL Non-Medicare/Medicaide citizens, regardless of health status, at affordable rates.

3) ALLOW insurance companies to "Profit" by offering additional benefits and options to those who qualify and are willing to pay the difference.

As for Funding…

1) Changing from an "Emergency Treatment" to a "Preventive Care" system will save local communities billions, maybe even trillions of taxpayer dollars!

2) Consolidating, standardizing and utilizing existing systems will make administration more efficient and cost effective!

3) Small business will be able to compete globally and hire additional taxpaying employees!

4) Wealthy seniors will pay their fair share!

The Tremendous Burden on Future Generations will be Greatly Reduced!

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Patient education would go a long way...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on May 26, 2009 7:17 AM   
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...towards correcting frivolous pill-pushing and popping, thus self-limiting medical costs in large part.

As would--on aggregate--taking better care of yourselves, and generally giving a damn about your health before your first three heart attacks.

Nevermind, keep on hoping for Bush, Obama, and the D.C. crew to intervene in your life via the Police Power of the State. That's SOOOO much easier than reevaluating your burger-fries-60 oz. big gulp + cigarrette with a side of vodka habits.

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» Blame the patient Posted by: RegK
» Meh. Take a walk... Posted by: ABetterFuture
Sad to say, but the owning class needs a beat down.
Posted by: DaBear on May 26, 2009 7:20 AM   
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If the problem is the owning class' ruling elite "not getting it" and their systems are not only in place but actively pursuing the subterfuge, seems to me the owning class is long overdue for a public beating.

No more bus tours to guarded cul de sacs in CT. We need more malfeasance in the halls of power and public humiliations, spittings, smacking briefcases from hands, groups of people taunting the "owners" of our institutions in public, etc.

These are the people who trade in shame and fear, it's the only thing they'll understand or listen to. It's time to shove it into their lives where they cannot ignore it any longer.

Too many people have bent over and taken it for too long. It's time to stop doing that.

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Who cares about $$$? Those who make money from sickness!
Posted by: thisizrob on May 26, 2009 7:29 AM   
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Anyone who comes up with ANY idea of reducing the profits of the Pharmaceutical companies WILL have a very large fight on their hands. Who funds the Universities that train the medical practitioners? Big Pharma! Who lobbies the Government Representatives to keep the drug companies in control? Big Pharma! Who makes the most out of your sickness? Big Pharma! Who says they will keep costs down? Big Pharma! Who wants you to be sick all the time? Big Pharma! Who has the strings attached to what is taught at Universities with the promise of BIGGER financial assistance IF the students are only taught about the use of drugs for healing? Big Pharma! Who stands to lose the most on a financial basis IF someone comes up with the fact that nutrition can solve most problems without using drugs? Big Pharma!

Down here in the land down under they have almost, not quite total, almost a strangle hold on the sickness industry. Remember, THEY only make money when you are sick so they do their best to keep you in that category. Slightly sick so you need their LD50 drugs to help you get better, but not quite well. The education has always been for everyone to believe that nutrition really is only common sense. Who gets the education on how to keep well? Sorry, nutrition has nothing to do with keeping well. When you have a disease like diabetes, there is nothing that can be done for you except medical procedures. It was just on TV a few minutes ago on a sitcom. Poor girl was told that she had to keep within the guidelines. They told her all the socalled wonderful information that "medicine" has been hammering for ages. Nothing about how one can use nutrition to improve the functions of the body and definitely NOTHING about where science actually is on the subject of nutrition. Who sponsors this type of hype? Big Pharma!

In my poor uneducated opinion, teach folks how to keep themselves well and cut the costs of keeping well, cut the costs of the medical industry and give people the coverage they need for those things that happen on the accidental basis.

The big news at the moment is on Swine Flu. How simple could it be to stop it in it's tracks with proper nutrition? Big Pharma wants to make as much money as they can from it so the scare factor is promulgated on the news every day. Who will gain the most financially from this scare? Big Pharma.

Just a few years ago it was SARS. No vaccine predicted for at least two years. Until some idiot doctor who was fed up with the hype said that Natural Vitamin C was the simple answer. Its a wonder they did not shoot him, but, in two days they had something for it. So much for the two years. They changed the disease to Bird Flu, SARS to Bird Flu by manipulating its genetics a tad. that did not do the big bad things it was supposed to do and kill millions so with a little more tweeking we now have Swine Flu which at least is killing a few more so they can get everyone panicking and using their Drugs and Vaccines by the million and they rub their hands together in glee at the Billions that will move into their coffers. Ad infinitum.

The ones who are against you Americans getting a better deal are those who make the most money out of your sickness. Big Pharma!

Now, don't get me wrong. There are drugs that have saved people's lives and are litteral wonder drugs. Many folks are alive today from the use of these drugs. A pharmacist friend of mine mentioned that when he investigated at a local hospital on the amount of people who were adversely affected by drugs, instead of the supposed 7 to 10 per month as recorded, it was in fact 293 over a period of just two months. He was banned from going near that hospital. Here was an honest seller of pharmaceuticals and he was put on notice for telling the truth. Who would be behind his persecution? Big Pharma!

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» Hold on now....... Posted by: Diecash1
Who cars about the $$$ additional info
Posted by: thisizrob on May 26, 2009 7:34 AM   
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There is, unfortunately, so much hype about all sorts of nutritional supplements which are also touted as curealls that Big Pharma is able to point out the fallacies of many of these snake oil type products and who gets the kick in the neck? Those providers of validated Supplements made by reputable caring companies. The fact that many of the socalled wonder drugs are taken off the market as soon as the manufacturers have made a few billions but a whole lot of people have either died or are adversely affected. This has never happened with food supplements but when someone has a small adverse effect it is blazed across the news as if it was an epidemic while little is said about the damning effects of drugs.

Who is behind all this mis application of justice? Big Pharma!

It wont be until the control is taken out of the hands of Big Pharma that you will get a fairer deal on health and Wellness

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Free market health care has to go--Now
Posted by: RegK on May 26, 2009 7:37 AM   
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Obama has to push single payer or he will be the last Democratic president. His failure to do this so far is a disgrace.

In the free market, my spouse, who had a mild stroke and is not disabled, is totally uninsurable. Even when we paid 10 K a year to have him part of my BCBS group plan at work every claim he submitted--for the flu, a hangnail, whatever--was called a 'pre-existing condition' related to his stroke. They took our money and paid for nothing. In effect, we paid twice: for the insurance and for the care itself.

They're a bunch of thieves--all of them: the insurers, the doctors, the politicians. They've got health care and they don't care about anyone who lacks it. Single payer is the only answer, but Americans are so brainwashed by the free market propaganda they get from all sides (that's right, it's even taught in 'Econ' classes in public schools) that they don't even support what's good for them!

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While you're waiting for single payer care - take care of your health
Posted by: saywhat on May 26, 2009 8:12 AM   
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Some good references: Besides the excellent web site www.cancertutor.com there are a few good books to read: “The China Study”, “Cancer Step Outside the Box”, and “Cancer-Free Your Guide to Gentle, Non-toxic Healing.” All are great books and good reads. Hey, you may even save your life along with thousands of dollars in medical bills.
Also you may want to check out the reviews of these books on Amazon.com - or any book site.

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lobbying
Posted by: jstepp590 on May 26, 2009 9:04 AM   
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Well, thank the lobbyists. Until we force the lobbyists out of hijacking our government we will never have a government that works for us.

Wake up America, our government is hijacked just like your computer browser!!!

Clean Election NOW!!!
http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/48405/?page=1

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MOYERS IS RIGHT AS USUAL
Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 26, 2009 9:16 AM   
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K-Street rules. As long as members of Congress are allowed to put themselves up for sale this won't end. No one can or will police themselves, including the police. The pharmaceutical companies are in business to make the medicines we need and they are entitled to make a profit. They CANNOT be allowed to dictate the quality and availabilty of medical care to the entire country and they are a major obstacle to affordable care. It's really obscene. ANNA

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"I see London, I see France..."
Posted by: stellabloo on May 26, 2009 9:32 AM   
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I see naked greed at work here:

"The only problem is that we're not starting from scratch. We have historically a tradition of employer-based health care. And although there are a lot of people who are not satisfied with their health care, the truth is, is that the vast majority of people currently get health care from their employers and you've got this system that's already in place. We don't want a huge disruption ..."

Huge disruption to profit windfalls for insurance companies? For the record, CANADA has a system of employer-based healthcare. For example, my husband's job covers our family for basic healthcare (universal healthcare benefits), extended health benefits (covering alternative care such chiropracters and naturopaths)physiotherapists) and dental. The last two are covered by a private insurance company which also provides pharmacare, short-term and long-term disability and life insurance in the bulk corporate package - no medical exam required. We pay, I mean the company pays about $220 a month for the whole package, covering 5 people.

Most Canadians working full-time will have a similar package through their employers. If the employer pays the whole shot, it's considered a taxable benefit, so a small amount (as small as one dollar) is usually deducted from each paycheque.

Coincidentally, my neighbour and I were just talking yesterday about how jobs these days are all about the benefits and how one person in the family usually holds down a regular job just for those benefits - because basic healthcare coverage is mandatory. You cannot be without healthcare, regardless of whether you ever go to see a doctor or not. This amount is tied to annual income; at $40 000 a year, the basic premium is about $50 a person per month.

If you are on social assistance, your healthcare is covered automatically, you get a regular carecard and a regular doctor like everyone else and you also get full pharmacare. So if you're poor and your kid is sick, you go to your regular doctor and you get free antibiotics if you need them.

In other words, the only thing standing between Americans and socialized medicine are the powerful interests vested in the existing privatized system. Go figure.

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» Well said Posted by: Hiroak
My Bumper Sticker Says It All For Me...
Posted by: wtfo on May 26, 2009 10:48 AM   
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It simply states "For Profit Healthcare Is IMMORAL!

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Single Payer Is Inevitable
Posted by: madregal on May 26, 2009 11:19 AM   
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The present system will never be "reformed" as long as the profit motive is driving the system. So, having said that, isn't it plain that eventually it will price itself right out of existence?

I think what we are seeing is the death throes of the system and a last big push by the system to squeeze their cash cow as hard as possible before the handwriting on the wall takes effect. Greed will not die easily.

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It's all about money. Not our money though.
Posted by: reelectnoone on May 26, 2009 11:29 AM   
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As all things American, it is about money.

Not our money, mind you, but money handed to political campaigns by wealthy corporations including health insurance companies.

Health care is but one of the more visible issues with the same problem at the root. Greed. Corporate greed and greed of individuals in Congress for campaign money.

Just for kicks...call any health care provider and tell them you have no money but need coverage. After the laughter dies down call your Congress person and ask that they support a government plan that assures 100% of Americans can have health care without regard to financial status.

As long as members of Congress have a financial incentive to keep things as they are, we ( Citizen voters ) can't expect change. Since the very foxes who guard our hen house set the rules for their own behavior the only clout we have is to keep voting them out of office until they get the message.

Congress is not on your side any more than their owners in major corporations.

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Like the portrait of Dorian Grey
Posted by: willymack on May 26, 2009 11:33 AM   
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Our cannibalistic capitalism has disguised its true nature under various covers and dirty lies. It's bought off crooked politicians when and where necessary-which was-and is, often. The door to the locked room has been thrown open, and the hideous caricature that the disguise/portrait is, has been revealed in all its dreadful splendor. It took the inevitable collapse of our phony eonomy to accomplish this. True to their nature, the scrubs who've lied, cheated, and stolen so much from us have once again rallied the crooks in congress and the senate to their aid in the form of a "bailout", and are even now working feverishly to eliminate any and all possibility of ANY kind of health care reform. The longer we pospone JUSTICE, the longer the criminals in the corporate world and in government will be free to bleed us dry, and any hope of a more egalitarian and humane society will go a-glimmering.

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How can we expect . . . ?
Posted by: Givvemhell on May 26, 2009 11:39 AM   
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What's this "we" stuff? We DON'T expect - we KNOW that the insurance companies ARE the problem with the cost of health care. We CAN'T get the representatives OR the president who are supposed to be representing US to pay any attention to us in order to know what they could do to actually represent US. The couple of hundred thou they get paid by US each year, on TOP of all the perk's we provide them (not by our choice, either) isn't enough to get them to do the job we are paying for and for which they took an oath to do. In their rush to corruption, almost without exception, they usurp our national wealth, rights, privileges and choices and sell them to the highest bidder with great alacrity. I want to know - NEED to know - WHO or what CAN get their attention, so we can get this show on the road in the right direction for the change we need. Single payer, universal health care is the right direction for the right reasons. Now what do we DO about it? Every time I write an elected official, if I get any response at all, it is never responding to what I've written, it's just campaign rhetoric on MY dime via their franking privilege!

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PDA protests this week for single-payer
Posted by: truthteller on May 26, 2009 11:57 AM   
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For anyone who wants to take direct action on this, Progressive Democrats of America is planning a series of locally-based protests in dozens of communities across the US between May 28-31.

Please go to www.pdamerica.org and search "Events Calendar" for a protest or rally near you. I have some hope that if enough people cry out we might have an effect.

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another view
Posted by: readera on May 26, 2009 1:20 PM   
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Single payer is great, but not nearly enough. I'm not sure I want to be part of a system that doesn't work.

Here's another view: More Insurance Isn’t Enough:Three Ways to Reform Healthcare

http://thesearethetimesmagazine.com/0905/

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Binnsb4tyrs
Posted by: Binnsb4tyrs on May 26, 2009 1:39 PM   
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When William Jarvis passed proposition 13 in California in the 70's homeowners cheered and are still cheering. It slowed down the greed of government spending.

Health care has been on an ever-increasing ride to the point that the drug companies, Drs. and hospitals have been increasing their bottom line by double digits for years.

My mother who was an x-ray technician all of her life told me days ago that she was billed over $200 for a chest x-ray, that in her day, 20 years ago, only cost $10-$15. Using my hp financial calculator that comes to 16.16% a year over 20 years. Not a bad return for the health industry.

On the Medicare side, my brother who became a paraplegic in 1988 due to a car accident has had his Medicare coverage mandatory convert to an HMO. He had an infection that the doctors delayed treating because it does not pay as well as normal insurance. It became so bad that they said the only way to treat his infection was to amputate his leg.

So when are the American’s going to stand up to our 3 world medical care and restructure the whole mess we call health care?

Compared to the rest of the world, we have the bloated wasteful "hummer" version, infected by greed. Lately we have seen it in the financial underpinnings of our economy crumble because of greed. Despite what Charlie Sheen said in the movie, "Wall Street", greed is not good.


Watch the movie "The Beautiful Truth". It is all about our health industry.

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ANY TRUST GIVEN TO "DISEASE INDUSTRIES" MUST BE SLOWLY EARNED
Posted by: drricklippin on May 26, 2009 2:21 PM   
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The greedy "disease care" industries have done little to nothing in recent years to earn our trust.

So if trust is given at all there must be tough regulatory oversight mechanisms with very real teeth. Anything less would be a real slap in the face of all who care about long overdue, meaningful US health care reform and those who have worked for decades to try achieve it.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
my blog

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Eliminate insurance companies from "health care"
Posted by: wireup on May 26, 2009 2:22 PM   
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We don't have "health care" in this country. When health care is considered a commodity - akin to selling shoes and groceries - then you have an absolutely AWFUL for-profit system.

It is NOT in the interest of insurance companies, doctors, drug companies and hospitals for patients to heal. These entities make no money off of healthy people. They ONLY make money off of ill people.

Long ago in China people paid doctors as long as they were well. The moment they became sick, they stopped paying the doctors. Therefore, it was in the financial interest of the doctor to make certain that his patients were well.

In this country, we have commodified health. It's DISGUSTING!

If you value your health, if you care about your bodies, then take the next step: learn about nutrition and alternatives. Take responsibility for your body and your health. I did this half a lifetime ago and have NEVER looked back. It's more than worth while,

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How is it that ...
Posted by: mcgoo on May 26, 2009 3:11 PM   
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an 89 year woman can have both knees replaced, while basic healthcare isn't provided to all children?

Only in America!

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Health Care is just another element in the real economy.
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on May 26, 2009 3:43 PM   
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Since the USA manufactures hardly anything anymore, the economy is now transaction-based to ensure the flow of money from the many to the few.

Every type of transaction is designed and harnessed in the service of this model. Finance, health, justice, environment, security, utilities... Elections are an industry. Lobbying is an industry. Cancer research is an industry. War is an industry. Culture (American Idol) is an industry. Food is an industry. Fatburgers and sugarwater are an industry. The drug war, keeping illegal aliens out, jails: all industries.

The products, services and outcomes actually delivered are irrelevant, what matters is that money must be made in the process. The essence of all elements of society has been made secondary to profit.

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» One correction... Posted by: Diecash1
» RE: One correction... Posted by: Ignatz deFyre
Following
Posted by: wormfarmer on May 26, 2009 6:40 PM   
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Ralph Nader's plan of single payer preventative health care, along with restructuring the taxation system, would have saved all this senseless bickering. We should have listened.....
Stupid Americans.....

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» RE: Bless the Nader... Posted by: kroltan
NATIONAL HEALTH CARE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FACING US
Posted by: cori on May 26, 2009 7:41 PM   
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THIS MEANS How healthy we are, how long we live, will we go bankrupt when we get sick or just get thrown out on the street? While we spend 10 billion per week on the Iraq war and trillions on Wall St and more our representatives, who we vote for, are refusing to give us a basic right that if not given will cost thousands of lives- SO DON'T VOTE FOR THEM AGAIN!!!! I CALLED BAUCUS AND TOLD HIM I WILL NOT VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T REPRESENT ME. TELL THEM YOU SUPPORT BERNIE SANDERS BILL S703 AND GET THESE UNCARING BASTARDS OUT OF OFFICE. THEY ARE GETTING PAID OFF BY THE SPECIAL INTERESTS- SO LET THEM KNOW - I own a global business and I speak to people all over the world everyday and I ask them "are you satisfied with your national healthcare"? and not one says no- its not perfect but it is a hell of a lot better then what we have here which is a broken healthcare system. so call 202 224 3121 and tell your senators he's out if he doesn't vote for us !!!! THEY ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE OUR LIVES- WE ARE 25TH IN THE WORLD FOR LONGEVITY AND OUR INFANT MORTALITY RATE RIVALS 3RD WORLD COUNTIRES. SO WHAT IS GOING TO TAKE?

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the obamabush
Posted by: tazdelaney on May 27, 2009 10:29 AM   
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obama was for single-payer in 2003 but no more. obama was pro-palestinian until AIPAC helped fund his senate campaign. obama likes to say he was aginst the wars, though he largely voted (like 94+% ofcongress), right along with bush&co for the wars, their funding, the patriot acts, the military commissions act... obama said 'we don't stand for torture' yet gitmo still rolls on and worse than ever and even more importantly, obama (2nd day in office), decided to continue the CIA 'rendition' program of disappearance and torture, tens of thousands more than were ever in gitmo. obama continues the super-surveillance and protection of war criminalas and torturers. obama continues the giveaway of trillions to the very corporatists whose schemed crimes have brought the world to the edge of the economic abyss. obama continues the drugwar apace. 37% of the us budget is still 'defense-related,' while education, environment and all social programs combined are 13% of it. from where i sit, can't see any change at all and if this is the way he charges when the racing gate is opened; it will only get worse. with the death tolls of civilians at about 3,000 so far under obama; isn't it time to start the charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity on obama, as well as bush-cheney?

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Our Demands to Congress
Posted by: bigolpoofter on May 27, 2009 4:46 PM   
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When we elect people to the U.S. House and Senate, we make them eligible to participate in the highest quality health care program available. The demand from the electorate must be to bring the health care received by all Americans up to the standard of Congressional health care. Acting to do anything less should be a signal to remove members of Congress at the next election.

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Join the civilized world
Posted by: Jeanne on May 27, 2009 8:21 PM   
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We are constantly chanting, "USA, USA, USA" and "We're #1, we're #1..." Well, in the area of health care we are not even close. We consign the poor, the underclass, and the middle-class to a precarious game of Russian roulette. Is this year the year the bullet of catastrophic illness is in the chamber? Is this the year that my chronic condition worsens to the point I will lose my job, then my health insurance? The US health insurance industry is like a vulture waiting to pick apart the carcasses of its victims (they call them policy holders). Happy to feed on your premiums, the moment they might have to regurgitate up some payments for care, they avidly search for excuses to deny coverage. They are about minimizing what they'll pay for, and about finding ways to kick the sick off their rolls. Just at the time a patient is needing their care paid for, they must engage in pitched battle with their insurer to justify their need. It is barbaric, and it should be against the law. The only way to stop it is to take private insurance out of the equation. Let public health care handle all medical needs.

Let private insurance cover the cosmetic surgery, the tummy tucks, the breast enlargements, the teeth whitening, the hair implants, the rhinoplasty, the liposuction -- the vanity medicine.

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A Protection Racket by any other name...
Posted by: Zaratamara on May 28, 2009 6:57 AM   
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...That's all our present "Health Insurance" system is!
(Funny you should mention the Sopranos, Bill!)

It's all set up so you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Truly civilized countries accept that health care is a HUMAN RIGHT, not a for-profit scheme like it is here, and Big Insurance and Big Pharma are the worst Protection Rackets there are, except for the military-industrial complex, of course!!
And Employers' Health Insurance a good "tradition"? Just found out big banks and WAL-MART actually take out LIFE Insurance on their sickest and oldest employees so they can cash in on THAT too! How scummy IS THAT!?
(Some motivation to keep people healthy, eh? )

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Both Major Parties are Owned by Corporate America
Posted by: mcartri on May 28, 2009 7:44 AM   
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The GOP is entirely corporate owned & most of the Democratic Party. The Corporate Dems like Reid love to hear progressives say they are "caving" and "spineless". Nothing could be farther from the truth. Congress represents Congress. Everyday is a day with hands out collecting the legalized bribes called campaign contributions. The American people are mere pawns who are allowed to vote for the usual corporate choices. Until there is public fianancing of federal elections, the corrupted political parties will do the bidding of their owners...that's not us.

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appreciate
Posted by: catus1 on May 28, 2009 10:39 PM   
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I am very pleased with the thought and don’t feel like adding anything in it. It’s a perfect answer.
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Bill
Posted by: mycuz on May 29, 2009 10:59 AM   
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I get a little upset about "health care reform", when what we are really talking about is universal coverage, and the dialogue should be about that. The starting place for reform begins with reforming the FDA. I could list a long line of necessary reforms:
First: do away with direct to consumer ads
Second;control conflicts of interest in the drug approval process
Third: investigate incestous relationships with drug and biotech companies.
There is always talk about prevention, and then it is screening and early detection neither of which is prevention. About the only prevention is to quit smoking. However recent studies show that we could reduce the incidence of cancer through diet and exercise.
If we are truly interested in reducing health care costs, three suggestions one, provide everyone with a health club membership and two have medicare cover vitamins and dietary supplements, and thirdly reign in prescription drugs. There are over 100,000 reported deaths annually, and over one million hospitalizations from prescription drugs, and this is only the reported cases. The conservative estimate is that only about 10% of these cases are reported. Just imagine the cost savings if this problem was addressed. The estimate is that we could save 30 billion dollars a year by having every adult take 400I.U's of vitamin E. There are numerous clinical trials supporting the effacacy of many dietary supplements, but BigPharma and the FDA do not want this to be made public. There are no profits in unpatentable health products.
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A TRUE CYNIC WOULD HOPE FOR RUSH LIMBAUGH TO SUCCEED. THEN THE GOP
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on May 31, 2009 10:06 PM   
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would disappear forever. It is time for a true third party lying to the left of the democrats. They need the nudge. The plutocrats need to fear a radical left. Frank Sinatra paid a top rate of 90% income tax and did not die in poverty.

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Public Official Criminal Misconduct
Posted by: Kimberly on Jun 2, 2009 8:34 AM   
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OFFICE OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT - OPM Sec. 900.401, Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 Authority: Sec. 602, 78 Stat. 252 (42 U.S.C. 2000d-1). Source: 38 FR 17920, July 5, 1973 - A PERSON SHALL NOT BE DENIED THE BENEFITS OF or be otherwise subjected to discrimination under a program ( OPM FEHB Health Insurance Program ) or activity receiving Federal financial assistance from OPM.
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State of Michigan has been allowing Federal HMO HAPCORP.ORG, to harm 42CFR438.704 their Covered Individuals OPM FEHB | Citizens of Michigan, for Medicaid kickbacks. T18CFR242CRIME Racketeering BY High Ranking Department Officials - color of law.
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1998 ~ U.S. Attorney General and HHS OIG Provider Self-Disclosure Protocol (SDP), see 63 Fed. Reg. 58,399 Program ~ 1996 HIPAA Violation | T18CFR286CRIME | T18CFR371CRIME ~ Color of Law T42CFR417.1 Willfully failed to keep INDIVIDUALs from harm T18CFR242CRIME
DATED: November 24, 1998 June Gibbs Brown [ HHS ] Inspector General
DATED: November 24, 1998 Nancy-Ann Min DeParle [ HCFA ] Administrator
DATED: January 16, 2008 Daniel R. Levinson [ HHS ] Inspector General
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Subj: RE: What the RICO Settlements Mean to You ( Physicians )Date: 4/3/2006 2:11:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time ~ Holding Blue Cross and Other ( FEDERAL Contractors ) Health Plans Accountable:What the RICO Settlements Mean to You and Your Practice.RE:” Seminar participants will learn how to maximize their relief under the settlements ~~ To date, six major health plans(BlueCross/Anthem/Wellpoint, Aetna,Cigna, Health Net,Prudential,and Humana -Federal Contractors )have settled CMAs RICO lawsuit,which Alleges that the Health Plan Defendants Engaged in Fraud and Extortion by Wrongfully Denying payment to Physicians, in Violation of Federal Racketeering Law
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U.S. Constitution: Due Process and Equal Protection ~ Where is Due Process of Law for Federal Beneficiaries | Individual's - who were the Victim 'tool', of this same racketeering conducted by Federal(HMO)Health Plan Employees | Defendants and Hospital HHS Employees,who Engage in Fraud and Extortion by Wrongfully Denying 42CFR438.704 Entitled Individuals-their Covered T42CFR409.33Hospital Insurance Claims,through administrative fraud by fright T42CFR417.1, adverse determination | grievance procedure | alternate dispute resolution T18CFR1518CRIME obstruction - color of law ?
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The Anti-Dumping Statute is Enforced [ 1999 still pending 2009 color of law | alternate dispute resolution T42PHC417.1 ] Jointly by the Health Care Financing Administration ( HCFA ) and the Office of Inspector General ( OIG ) of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Health Care Finance Administration ( HCFA - Region 5 - Michigan: et al ), has jurisdiction over the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) of 1996
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Sincerely,
All ENTITLED Federal Employee Health Beneficiaries & the General Public in Region 5 HCFA, who are being criminally denied HHS T42CFR417.1 Existing ( Federal State Private ) HMO Health Insurance Coverage, illegally billed for HMO denied covered claims and forced into HCFA State Medicaid Programs for the POOR. Title18CFR1001Crime. 1998 still pending 2009, denial of civil and criminal rights - reporting waste fraud and abuse - Color of Law

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This Makes Me Sick
Posted by: quiact on Jun 8, 2009 7:24 AM   
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When I was a child, I heard the phrase 'war-monger', I had to find out its definition, as I had no idea what that phrase meant.

I knew others could, and were, labeled with this phrase, as I had heard it in the past directed at others whoever said these two words. So I felt a need to know what these words meant, and how they affected others who heard them.

Finally, I found the answer: a warmonger is one who promotes war, which is undesirable or discreditable. In this case, one labeled this would have an affinity for what others are reasonably opposed to share the same views:

Others promote other things besides war.

Disease mongering is when a large pharmaceutical corporation implements various unethical if not illegal activities in order to sell more of their products by either creating or expanding a particular illness.

They do this by creating the perception that others are likely ill in some way when, in fact, they are not. Those in the pharmaceutical company do not call this disease mongering, but rather conditional branding.

Drug companies do this by seeking more of those who should be patients in need of treatment with the drug maker's promoted medications, regardless if they are in need of such treatment or not, clinically.

How this is done by these companies will be described soon.

The drug makers clearly place the needs for their drugs to be for medical conditions whose treatment regimens are to be viewed by others as incomplete or unmet.

The companies want to let the public know of the progressive increase for the disease states and how their products treat this illness better than what is available now or has been used in the past.

How ironic it seems that drug companies, who make drugs to delay the progression of, or cure diseases with these drugs, wish for others to become as sick as possible to profit from their suffering that they create with disease mongering and sell more pills.

This disease-mongering in fact does occur often to widen the diagnostic boundaries of an illness, disorder, or syndrome by creating awareness of such medical conditions to the public.

The drug companies do this by utilizing in several ways the delivery of fabricated if not baseless information during this process.

Usually, the pharmaceutical either creates or expands a disease state by deception directly to consumers, often. Then the consumer, who now believes that they are ill, go see their health care provider.

The health care provider, due largely to the unfamiliarity of the patient’s symptoms expressed by the patient, if not the drug the patient is requesting, usually writes a prescription for the drug requested by the patient.

First, let's take a look at this label of disease mongering. It is inappropriate in that, unlike diseases and illnesses, mongering occurs with medical disorders and syndromes as well.

It is accurate and factual, however, that disease mongering does happen with deliberate intent and reckless disregard for the well-being of others by drug companies.

There was a book written by Ray Moynihan and Allan Cassels called, "Selling Sickness" in 2005. The book thoroughly described how big pharmaceutical corporations are turning all of us into patients, and into a over-medicated society.

Disease mongering progressively continues to create patients with illnesses, disorders, or syndromes that in fact may not exist without any intervention to discontinue this behavior.

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This Makes Me Sick, Part II
Posted by: quiact on Jun 8, 2009 7:26 AM   
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What the drug company implements to make sure this happens includes the following:

1. Paying medical journals to publish fabricated clinical trials involving their promoted medications after paying those involved with such a clinical trial to create such fabricated data. That is disease mongering to the health care provider.

2. Subjective screenings, such as those for various mood disorders. These screenings, as well as the affective disorders, which were rare until about 1995, involve leading questions often- created by the drug company. It was around this time that the United States was becoming more of a psychotropic nation.

These screenings that involve the leading questions responded by select groups of people. They are asked these questions by certain disease state support groups who have been converted into front groups after being funded by those big pharma companies who produce drugs for particular mood disorders.

3. Disease creations I: Social Anxiety Disorder, or social phobia: This condition is in the DSM IV which was published in 1994, and some were forced to delete the statement regarding this disorder that said, "Social Anxiety Disorder is not well-established, and requires further study."

Aside from what may be simply amplified introversion, social phobias are likely due to societal dysfunctions and certainly should not be labeled as a pathological condition requiring pharmacological treatment.

4. Disease creations II: Premenstrual dysphoric disorder. I call this a mid-life crisis, yet it was entered by instruction by the APA (American Psychiatric Association) into the DSM (the psychiatrist's bible) in 1993. Anxiety about the inevitable does not require pharmacological treatment.

5. Direct to Consumer Advertising:. Most memorable were those commercials for erectile dysfunction. Their absurdness in creating these commercials appears to have multiple psychotic components:

A healthy man who could probably run a marathon is having a decent time with his wife at some upper- middle class location.

He is smiling all the time. Because now, his marriage is secure due to his ability to copulate- which was apparently absent before this wonder drug entered his system.

Of course, it is not possible to have a happy marriage without intercourse, right?

Then there are other conditions which are entirely natural in the human lifespan, yet have been determined to be diseases by those who can profit off of these lifespan events.

Examples include osteoporosis and menopause, as well as erectile dysfunction. It’s insane the FDA approves pharmaceuticals for these natural events that occur normally in a human being.

Finally, there are the required medical guidelines for various disease states, such as dyslipidemia. Drug companies that make medications to treat this disease are more than happy to support the financial needs involved in creating these guidelines.

Dyslipidemia, for example:

Publications such as the Lipid Letter, and Lipid Management, both offered more aggressive management of the lipid profiles of the patients of the readers.

And both publications were funded completely by those big pharma companies that promote statins.

Same with cholesterol screenings that occur often that are implemented by those drug companies with drugs that treat the disorder of dyslipidemia.

A myth is something unproven. A false belief, or invented story.

Disease Mongering is not a myth. Large pharmaceutical corporations promote illness and disease- not desired by anyone and discredited by many, and these companies do this for profit and profit only.

Dan Abshear

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