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The Media Doesn't Get That Hyping Potent Pot Makes More People Want to Smoke It

By Paul Armentano, NORML. Posted May 16, 2009.


The govt. "warns" us that our pot is stronger than anything Jerry Garcia ever smoked in his heyday. What do they expect?

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"This ain't your grandfather's or your father's marijuana. This will hurt you. This will addict you. This will kill you."- Mark R. Trouville, DEA Miami, speaking to the Associated Press (June 22, 2007)

Government claims that today's pot is more potent, and thus more dangerous to health, than ever before  must be taken with a grain of salt.

Federal officials have made similarly dire assertions before. In a 2004 Reuters News Wire story, government officials alleged, "Pot is no longer the gentle weed of the 1960s and may pose a greater threat than cocaine or even heroin." (Anti-drug officials failed to explain why, if previous decades' pot was so "gentle" and innocuous, police still arrested you for it.)

In 2007, Reuters again highlighted the alleged record rise in cannabis potency, proclaiming, "U.S. marijuana grows stronger than before: report." Quoted in the news story was ex-Drug Czar John Walters, who warned, "This report underscores that we are no longer talking about the drug of the 1960s and 1970s -- this is Pot 2.0."

Predictably, in 2008 the mainstream news media ran with yet another set of 'news' stories alleging that the pot plant's strength had reached all-time highs. According to a June 12, 2008 Associated Press story:

"The latest analysis from the University of Mississippi's Potency Monitoring Project tracked the average amount of THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, in samples seized by law enforcement agencies from 1975 through 2007. It found that the average amount of THC reached 9.6 percent in 2007, compared with 8.75 percent the previous year."

Or not. An actual review of the 2008 U-Miss data revealed this nugget of information: The average THC in domestically grown marijuana -- which comprises the bulk of the US market -- is less than five percent, a figure that's remained unchanged for nearly a decade. (See: http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/pdf/FullPotencyReports.pdf, page 12)

Which brings us to this year. Naturally, the Feds are once again sounding the alarm, as reported today by CNN: "Marijuana potency surpasses 10 percent, U.S. says."

I suppose, if nothing else, the government's annual "new and improved pot" claims are good advertising for marijuana dealers. As for the rest of the public, it's time for a reality check.


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Paul Armentano is the senior policy analyst for the NORML Foundation in Washington, DC.

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Prohibition Propaganda warts and all
Posted by: Bearzerker on May 16, 2009 1:38 AM   
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the whole idea that todays strains are better and stronger then what was commercially available back in my highschool days is pure bullshit!

maybe they mean that the locally grown weed has finally become as good as the exotically grown stuff i used to get ala the golden triangle...
my favorite back in the day was Colombian Gold,Thai stick & mowie wowie etc with the favorite commerical blend being mexican sensimilla all of which was better product back in the day was imho then what our most excellent local growers are providing today [so stick that in your pipe and smoke it CNN]

how come they still forget about the a still common use of hashish?

I think the CIA IS JUST INFORMING THE PUBLIC to buy locally as the product is now up to date with other major producing countrys that have been growing and developing their strains for the past 3000-5000 years years or so...

how stupid do TPTB think we are anyways?

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» Refer Madness Posted by: pauldd
» all smoke no fire Posted by: samba
Who gives a crap how strong it is?
Posted by: paulmagillsmith on May 16, 2009 2:18 AM   
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It's less dangerous to you & society than alcohol. The most detrimental aspect of pot to your health has been proven to be getting arrested for it, yet wayward out of touch law enforcement agencies still arrest about 800,000 Americans yearly.

The gist of the whole marijuana debacle, as related to the long lost money making enterprise known as the "War on Drugs" is...SHOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN LEGALIZED LONG AGO?

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Wild Turkey, Jack Daniels, Quervo Gold
Posted by: TerryW4 on May 16, 2009 3:46 AM   
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How potent are those? I served a party of ten 100 shots when I worked in a bar/restaurant. That's 10 shots per person. However 2 guys had a little drinking contest instead and one guy drank 35 shots. He then went out front, laid in the grass and died. His friends just thought he passed out and carried him to their campsite (it was a riverside resort campground - Parker Dam, CA).

Anyone ever passed out, puked, or died smoking pot? No. And pot may be habit forming, but it's not addictive - not like cigarettes which the government taxes to death while subsidizing millions to tobacco farmers....

These old farts beating their neanderthal drums against pot are all downing martini's or pitchers at "happy hour". Talk about hypocrites.

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This stuff will kill you
Posted by: sunnywater on May 16, 2009 4:30 AM   
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The WHO's report includes these global statistics on tobacco deaths:

100 million people died of tobacco-related causes during the 20th century.
Tobacco currently kills 5.4 million people per year.

Tobacco use makes six of the world's eight leading causes of death -- including heart disease, stroke, and cancer -- more likely.
"Of the more than 1 billion smokers alive today, around 500 million will be killed by tobacco," states the WHO Report on the Global Tobacco Epidemic, 2008.

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» That's a stretch Posted by: pauldd
So toke less
Posted by: PaulK on May 16, 2009 4:42 AM   
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Pot smokers titrate (that's a legitimate scientific word, now get your mind off of any second meanings). When smokers get high enough, they stop. It doesn't matter how strong the pot is, except you might get a bit less pot tar in your lungs.

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Boy Scouts is a religious organization bent on ethnic cleansing
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on May 16, 2009 5:02 AM   
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They did it to me personally, I can provide a list of names and criminal actions against me. The christians have a bible verse in the bible that says I'm not allowed to live, Boy Scouts act on it.

I think my government should protect me from these vicious animals.

That's what I think, but THEY would like to have me silenced, THEY are the ones who have guns and dominate our police forces. All I have is a bow, some arrows and words.

But I do know how to shoot, I am a trained and experienced archery instructor. I know how to teach it...

I also am a journalist on The Story of WHY MY people are targeted for extinction. It is all about religion.

And teaching our children to distrust us and act with prejudice against us.

I don't approve of Boy Scouts doing that, no I don't like that at all. Not one little bit. That's why I can name names, it is a criminal conspiracy in my town. I am not going to let it rest.

Nasty anti pot, prejudice teaching 'ceremony' as endorsed by the National Boy Scouts*

May I suggest the ugly-monster costume with a mask for Mr. Drug Abuse, be modified to be Mr Drug Warrior, dragging people off to jail for smoking weed is a religious discrimination.

The MacScouter Scouting Rersources Online website is provided by R. Gary Hendra, Tindeuchen Chapter adviser OA and ASM Troop 92, Milipitas, CA; President, U.S. Scouting Service Project.

You can E-mail the MacScouter at gary2K8@macscouter.com to tell him what you think of his ceremony, please cc me at kindgsl@gmail.com so I can keep track of the public response. If you are interested in joining my church, let me know, we will have more safety in numbers.

Milipitas is not that far away from me, I would LOVE to visit him and put a human face on his ugly form of religious discrimination.

Why aren't the Boy Scouts interested in the facts about pot instead?

Last night I left a teary phone call to my Girl Scout headquarters.

I am tired of being so discriminated against for my religion. I need some emotional help, service even, I have been really, really abused, I need lots of help.

The Reverend Sister Lauren
THC Ministry

*Materials found at The MacScouter website may be reproduced and used locally by Scouting volunteers for training purposes consistent with the programs of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) [Links to BSA Sites], the World Organization of the Scout Movement (WOSM) or other Scouting and Guiding Organizations. No material found here may be used or reproduced for electronic redistribution or for commercial or other non-Scouting purposes without the express permission of the U. S. Scouting Service Project, Inc. (USSSP) or other copyright holders. USSSP is not affiliated with BSA or WOSM and does not speak on behalf of BSA or WOSM. Opinions expressed on these web pages are those of the web authors. You can support this website in two ways: Visit Our Trading Post at www.ScoutingBooks.com or make a donation by clicking the button below.

How do we un-support his web site? Sue him for defamation of character?

Where are the 'facts' to support his prejudice, and why don't medical marijuana activists take him on?

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» RE: This is a story you need to hear Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: History lesson Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Before the history lesson. Posted by: Reader in Japan
GRRREAT that pot is stronger than ever before
Posted by: xvictor on May 16, 2009 5:49 AM   
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Two or three hits from one joint is all that it takes to get pleasantly stoned, and then save the still-long roach for another time. Which is good because pot nowadays is expensive.

That's what I call a bigger bang for the buck!

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There was a band playing in my head and I felt like getting high . . .
Posted by: rac on May 16, 2009 5:55 AM   
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I once OD’ed after eating less than an ounce or so in brownies. I crashed hard and fast. So what? This was back in the 1980s, and I was in college. Being from Northern California, I smoked some of the most beautiful bud of the time with purple leaves, red hairs and that aroma. Ah, the potency! I haven’t smoked since, but all this talk about killer weed just makes me wanna . . . savor the good times.

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Less potent varieties
Posted by: leafsong1 on May 16, 2009 6:28 AM   
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are increasingly hard to come by these days, a result of prohibition. Prohibition is the primary force increasing the average potency.

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Less smoke, less lung cancer
Posted by: mtnprivy on May 16, 2009 6:59 AM   
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THC may be cool, but smoke tears up the lungs. Less puffs equals better lungs. Bongs aren't a bad idea either.

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MJ #1 CASH CROP in How Many US States?? Do we Export It?
Posted by: picket on May 16, 2009 7:30 AM   
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Prohibition of alcohol did not make fewer people experiment with hard liquor or beer. In fact, the passage of the 18th Amendment passed without people really taking much heed. Americans often being a rebellious group, hello... the "roaring twenties" came after prohibition like lightning. Previous law abiding citizens were suddenly using secret passwords to gain entry into hidden rooms. Was there suddenly more respect for the Law of the Land or for it's Enforcers?

A poem from Prohibition Times, "The Heydays of the Adirondacks"...M. Desormo

"Mother's in the kitchen
Washing out the jugs,
Sister's in the pantry
Botteling [sic] the suds.
Father's in the cellar
Mixing up the hops,
Johnny's on the front porch
Watching for the cops!"

How much respect is there in our land for Nixon's DEA? Has MJ Prohibition stopped the use of Cannabis? Members of the current generations, except maybe the oldest citizens, LAUGH,they laugh about it but not those millions caught in their "so called" crime.

It's A JOKE.

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yanaar
Posted by: context on May 16, 2009 7:36 AM   
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What a bunch of B.S. I remember the pot of the "Jerry Garcia" days. Man, that stuff was potent. Today's pot doesn't even come close.

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I have to chuckle
Posted by: slightlyleftof castro on May 16, 2009 7:39 AM   
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That there are all these drug rehab ads in this! But mj is NOT addictive, so why would you need rehab? Send an email to your senators supporting S-714!

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Call us...
Posted by: kiel on May 16, 2009 7:52 AM   
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...when someone ODs. Till then, STFU.

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In 10 years it will be legal
Posted by: Bushmaster on May 16, 2009 8:28 AM   
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Sitting around the floor listening to Floyd and Cream passing a joint in 1970 we reassured each other that it would be legal in 10 years. When I was in my 20's ten years hardly seemed doable. But 10,20, 30 years and more have passed and it is the same stinking lies I hear that make marijuana smokers and sellers criminals.

If the people actually had any power they would see to it that they were no longer considered criminals for using pot.

The media seems to be our puppeteer / super-ego as a culture. Isn't it time we became a culture inhabited by real people rather than puppets?

The idea that the state will allow people who are dying or ill the right to use it belies the claim that it is harmful. Would you actually prescribe something harmful to someone who was sick already? The first rule of medicine is to 'do no harm.'

The governments policy as implemented, has been irresponsible. It has resulted not only in the improvement of the final product, it has created an entire niche in the enforcement of laws, costing more money than any government can justify. The government's policy on marijuana is like a policy a mentally unbalanced religious person would come up with given the same opportunity.

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Who cares? There's plenty besides pot to smoke anyway.
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS on May 16, 2009 8:34 AM   
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Besides, it's your fault that you elected drug czars to office. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! LOL !! And I thought I was a doofus for voting for Nader and I've even been told that I should have voted for Ron Paul !

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» or dennis kucinich... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
» RE: or dennis kucinich... Posted by: aonghus36
MARY JANE
Posted by: Dennis St. John on May 16, 2009 8:41 AM   
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Prohibition began by the feds in the 1930's as a ruse for busting illegal immigrants from Mexico who might take jobs from Americans during the depression. The policy has never been based on fact or reason.

The only persons harmed or killed by smoking pot are those who smoked pot sprayed with paraquat and other lethal herbicides by the government.

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» Not True Posted by: pauldd
» Retraction Posted by: pauldd
Super high me
Posted by: paganpat on May 16, 2009 8:46 AM   
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Yeah, lets carry the myth to it's extreme and start our own propaganda, like this... Yes you are right and this pot that I grew last year is soooooo potent that I had one hit that virtually lasted me for three months, I was so high that the plant yeald I got off it produced three pounds and will last me until I die, never having to plant another one, well maybe one more so I can keep the rest of america high forever. Must go it is 420 and time to sighn off.

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» RE: Super high me Posted by: khaleesi
propaganda against pot
Posted by: khaleesi on May 16, 2009 8:59 AM   
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Personally, I do not smoke pot. It makes me very paranoid and uncomfortable. However, I think it should be legalized because there is absolutely nothing wrong with smoking pot. As long as it is used responsibly i.e. do not smoke and drive, then there is no reason why an adult should not be able to purchase it. All of this demonizing a safe substance boils down to the fact that tobacco and alcohol companies would lose serious profits if pot were legalized. Most people who drink do so for an escape. A way to stop reality for a bit. Pot would serve the same purpose and would have much less dire health and public safety consequences. The prosecution of pot heads and dealers has made the cocaine and crack industry extremely powerful. Why would someone want to make 100 bucks off of a pound of pot when they can make thousands off the same amount of cocaine all for the same legal consequence? This makes dealers more apt to push the more expensive and more dangerous drugs.

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In about 1971, we had a dry spell so we drove about 40 miles
Posted by: UnEasyOne on May 16, 2009 9:02 AM   
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to score some weed. Ten bucks an ounce then.
We asked if it was any good, and of course the guy said it was ok - but didn't make a big deal of it. We got an oz (we would have anyway unless it was the worst crap known to man. Like I said, it was dry.) and 5 or 6 of us gathered at my place to burn one.

WOW! That stuff was sooo good! Everyone who had ever done psychedelics reported colors, patterns, trails...and it was broad daylight. After some period of time (three minutes... an hour?) somebody (maybe me) asked: "How many joints did we roll?"

"Only one."

"Look in the ashtray." Instead of still being passed around, 2/3 of that single J was just sitting there. There was a stunned silence for some period of time, and then - I swear by all that is holy - a scene right out of the Marx Brothers as five of us tried to get out the door at the same time.

By the time we got back to the dealer (who had had a grocery bag full of one oz bags when we left him) he was all out, of course.

And that is the best weed I have ever smoked. In 45 years of smoking - off and on. I have had hash, Thai stick, Acapulco gold, Maui wowee, Colombian red hair and modern skunk - among other varieties. This was better. In 1971.

The difference now is that it makes no sense to ship half a ton of crap weed for 50 bucks an oz when you can make the same money from a much smaller amount of more potent stuff. Much less risky.

No way good weed today is more powerful than good stuff was back then. Average potency is higher because there is less crap out there.

Sure would love for somebody to prove me wrong about that - if I ever decide to do that again.

In the beginning, this prohibition was all about religious fanaticism. Law enforcement found it a convenient tool to suppress Blacks and Mexicans (the primary users at the time). Later, it was the perfect tool not only to pick off the counterculture leaders and intimidate all the DFHs, but Nixon used it as a vehicle for his assault on the constitution, the fourth amendment in particular.

Quaint as this may seem today, at one time, the cops had to knock on your door and serve a search warrant before they came crashing in. "No Knock" drug laws he initiated ended that little inconvenience - and the right to be secure in your home from unwarranted search and seizure.

There are far better arguments for banning aspirin (a much more dangerous drug - or alcohol, or nicotine, or even caffeine) than MJ. Everyone locked up for this "crime" is a political prisoner - and incrementally, our right wing governments and courts have used this "war" to chip away everybody's rights. Think wiretaps, SWAT teams, thugs crashing through the doors of people who never smoked a joint in their lives, and the destruction of constitutional rights. The proliferation of all that was justified and excused as necessary measures in the drug war. Then it all was applied to everyone else. That is what precedents are all about.

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Tell Obama to legalize marijuana now
Posted by: greenferret on May 16, 2009 9:23 AM   
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Every year, marijuana prohibition puts thousands of Americans in prison for a nonviolent, victimless crime that the last three US presidents have all committed.

Tell Obama and your elected representatives that it's time to legalize and regulate marijuana.

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Cookie Dough Overdose...
Posted by: kogwonton on May 16, 2009 9:51 AM   
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...is the most likely cause of death after smoking KGB in this day and age. I smoked a lot of Colombian when I was a kid (before KGB was available) and it more than did the trick. I remember almost having a nuclear meltdown involving a box of Capt. Crunch. My friend and I barely survived.

I suppose when you force a chimp to smoke six lbs. of weed in a day, you could call it dangerous to your health. But my guess smoking six lbs. of anything at all will put your life in peril. Good thing they put those tags on your mattress, because heaven forbid should people fail to read the warnings against smoking those. But seriously, as good as the grass is these days nothing compares to the high I got from the grass when I was in high school from the 'inferior' grade stuff. And I have never experienced any sort of addiction or health troubles because of it. I do wish my mom had taken a switch to me every time I snatched some of her cigarettes though. Now THAT is true regret.

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Reefer Madness
Posted by: Jaffe on May 16, 2009 9:57 AM   
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Writing about his use of opium, Jean Cocteau suggested that rather than criminalizing its use, chemists should look for a way to diminish or eradicate its side effects.

That was France.

In our befuddled country, there has even been recent opposition to administering a morphine drip to dying patients.

"You saying you want to die under the influence? Heck no!"

If cannabis is ever legalized, it will be corporatized rapidly and end up like smoking a Marlboro, overpriced, with carcinogenic additives for long shelf life.

Meanwhile the real shit, both strong and safe, that the amateur grows him/herself will remain, like bootleg liquor, subject to prosecution.

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An incident from my youth.
Posted by: Freticat on May 16, 2009 9:58 AM   
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Once, with a weekend and some spare weed on our hands, some friends and I decided to see just how stoned we could get. After a couple hours of mostly constant toking, we all had a shared vision: diminutive people in Medieval-style clothing with bare, hairy feet appeared and began telling us stories of adventure and great deeds.

That's when we realized that while marijuana was not addictive, it could be Hobbit-forming.

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Smokin' in the 70s
Posted by: adelaney on May 16, 2009 9:58 AM   
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I knew the folks/botonists who settled in Humboldt County in the early 1970s and'invented' sensemillan pot. They were childhood friends of my boyfriend in Chicago, where I went to college in the mid 1970s.

Through my boyfriend, I had constant access to these growers' stash and have never tasted anything as good since. They were very serious in their quest for pot's best and traveled the world collecting seeds from places like the Kush mountains, etc. This was before any seed banks existed.

This WAS the new breed of extremely potent pot.

I was the first gal at Chicago Art Institute to have it and I was treated like the piped piper there. In other words people sought me and followed me around to taste this wondrous treat. It cost about $600 and up an oz at the time.

I smoked with Jerry Garcia in 1980 while the Dead were at Radio City. Jerry's stash was great, grown by Mountain girl. However, the quality of his 10 inch bud, believe it or not, was a bit less than the quality I found in the mid 70s.

Today, I am sorry to say there is not pot readily available, that matches these earlier strains. Too bad, but I am glad I got to taste it!!!!

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It isn't nearly as potent
Posted by: harpy on May 16, 2009 10:20 AM   
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as it was in the early 70's. Back then you could get a real buzz and you smoked the leaves too, now it's buds only, and not nearly as good.
It's all propaganda.

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GOD GAVE MAN MARIJUANA [GENESIS 1:29]
Posted by: Dennis St. John on May 16, 2009 10:39 AM   
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"And God said, 'See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth...'"

Botanically, marijuana is an herb bearing seed. That's a fact. It's an herb, Herb!

What God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

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My husband mailed some Cambodian Red
Posted by: harpy on May 16, 2009 10:43 AM   
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to me when he was in Nam. Nothing has ever compared to it. People were offering $60 bucks for a joint! Then there was Mesh Pecan, Colombian Gold, Panama Red. Ah, those were the days when everything seemed brighter!
Now, it's all one big excuse for the cops to steal your property, and keep most of the pot for themselves.

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eldoradoman
Posted by: sopomike on May 16, 2009 10:44 AM   
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you hippies can forget obama leaglizing weed .police would kill him if he tried they make way to much money off it for that .if obama even tries police will kill him like they did kennedy .you fools they will kill you also if you keep trying to ruin that good thing called prohabition

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» RE: eldoradoman Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: eldoradoman Posted by: avl1090
if it's stronger, you smoke less ... or maybe you will -
Posted by: batteredup on May 16, 2009 11:05 AM   
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fall asleep quicker, kinda like the DEA at the switch of reality. Potency of alcohol, a much more dangerous drug doesn't seem to matter to anyone, except the consumer who learns to reduce intake accordingly or suffer the consequences. So what's the real fear here? Is there a munchies-shortage on the horizon they aren't warning us about? Or is the concern of more people getting less violent overall and reducing the need for more cops the big threat? The cops don't want pot legal - it's their easiest, least-threatening bust outside of arresting eight-year-olds for shoplifting candy bars. Reminds me of a situation that happened to a personal friend 10 or so years ago. Seems he was busted with a couple ounces of weed and the arresting cops badgered him on and off for a couple hours trying to get him to reveal where he got the pot. Finally, my friend tells them his connection was a "thug in the gangster disciples" street gang, essentially ending all interrogations on the spot. It's odd how the gung-ho valor of those once-brave policemen suddenly vansihed when faced with the prospect of tracking down a hardened criminal instead of a pot-smoker.

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strong pot is the government's fault...
Posted by: BigEasy on May 16, 2009 12:05 PM   
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The government gave birth to strong, indoor, hydroponic permaculture by locking people up for it being outdoors. What do they expect?

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» RE: What do they expect Posted by: Sister_Lauren
Well.. I know the old timers like to think so...
Posted by: MaudDib on May 16, 2009 4:03 PM   
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But on average...

Todays top strains of Cannabis are way more powerful then anything that existed back in the 70's.-- 9% - 10%?? There are strains that hit 25%--35% (which seems to be the upper limit as to concentraition)

Essentially todays Commercial bud, may not quite reach the legendary status of Panama Red, Gold, Maui, and the other legends..

However todays heavy hitters are ridiculous when it comes to what they are.

Strains like White Widow, Sour Diesil, C99, Trainwreck... etc etc..

All owe their tremendous gifts to the old strains of yore..

However what has been back then is now refined and refined and bred for type of effect, taste, etc, etc, etc...

Now.. is it easy to find this super quality stuff??..

Sorta depends on where you live.

Regardless the "strength" argument is a straw man..

It is fear mongering.. and no one buys it anymore.

Besides the fact that good cannabis does not only mean how much of a percentage of one cannabinoids the plant holds...

It is more of a synergy of many different compounds, flavinoids, etc...

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Plant Man
Posted by: alkamm on May 16, 2009 6:08 PM   
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Yes, until George H.W. Bush set up the Carribean task force to allow our Coast Guard to pull over freighters hundreds of miles from our shores, we got the bales of Black, Red, and Gold Columbian that were just as strong as the best G13, Super Urkle, or whatever the highest grade your neighbor is growing in his cat box.
And Thai sticks floated in very potent. Oh, and don't forget the hash that came in while the Israeli's and the Arabs were cooperating, handing it over the Lebanese border, etc.
What we grow here in the states is now as good as what we used to get for very much less. GHW Bush succeeded in nazifiying the Caribbean and lowering the price of coke because it's so much easier to bring it in. What a splendid trade-off these absolutists engineered!

The DEA are a big waste of money staffed by ex-Marines and free-lance soldiers of fortune. Not the original ugly Americans, just ugly Americans. And all law enforcement in the war on drugs has done is make our country Nazi in it's searches and seizures. Justice Douglas said if a cop saw you smoking a joint in your car, that was your home and you weren't to be searched. Now they sic dogs on people, confiscate homes and cars and lives. It's unAmerican.

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» RE: Plant Man...Amen Posted by: UnEasyOne
As long as the industrial uses are ignored, all this talk of recreational use are null and void.
Posted by: maxpayne on May 17, 2009 5:31 AM   
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While the taboo on pot is slowly being removed, I seriously doubt the trend will continue if all the focus is on the recreational front.

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True vs. False
Posted by: LeaderofMen on May 17, 2009 5:32 AM   
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If the government's warning were true, I wouldn't be capable of typing this response.

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Just fed into the paranoia and propaganda- heckova job!
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 17, 2009 6:26 AM   
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Why the hell is NORML helping write script for the Right wingers.
Please, if you never had an inclination to smoke pot- the fact it's stronger is not an incentive to start. Your headline should have been 'Stronger pot elates pot smokers'.
You are telling the opponents of Legalizing Pot that 'Reefer madness' is a realistic documentry. How High are You?
I would never shoot up herion, so hearing it's more 'pure' would have no effect on my decision.
Stop helping give pot a bad name it only feeds talking points to the Right and further lines the pockets of the Pharmacuticals.And the Pharms are the ones killing people with their psychotropics- through suicides, murder and organ failures.
FYI NORML it's your job to present the facts that pot is the better altenative. Pot helps with sleep. Helps increase apetite for patients and elderly. Has no addictive properties (except enjoyment) and has no adverse medical side effects when ingested, instead of just smoked.Plus the added benefit of derailing crime due to lack of motivation or organization.Also recent research indicates pot may inhibit alzheimers- probabaly related to the reduction of the killing effects of stress on brain cells, or at least not over taxing them 24/7.

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Pot illegal?
Posted by: BaconDotty on May 17, 2009 6:40 AM   
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Wut? I been smokin pot for 30+ years and now someone tells me its illegal? Oh well!

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The "Old White Boy"
Posted by: brbjdl on May 17, 2009 1:56 PM   
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The new drug Zar was reported to have said the drug war is looked at as if it were a war on American citizens?? No dog dudu professor!!??
The same old way of stuffing their pockets along with the drug producers.. What a wonderful advertizement firm the dealers have,
the American media and the prison industrial complex needs these people to jail.. it is as lucrative as drug dealing, so it is said!!!

Come on America get your dung together and join the enlightened few that see through this most recent smoke screen!

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Pot Potency
Posted by: reefersmoke on May 17, 2009 3:01 PM   
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I wish that marijuana was classified as an herb or something other than a drug, as it seems like it makes the topic too generalized with other much more dangerous substances included.
Great article, I blogged about it here: Reefer Smoke

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PUT THAT DOWN! YOU Don't KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 17, 2009 7:27 PM   
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self-medication IS A SIN!!!

DAMMIT, this is a JOB FOR PROFESSIONAL DRUG PUSHERS & THEIR SUPPLIERS & AD MEISTERS!

DAMMIT! the street drug trade is for THE DEA & CIA...

the *acceptable drugs* only come from DOCTORS who know your body BETTER THAN YOU DO & their soft focus media campaigners!

bend over, here comes your suppository!

now... waaait for it... did you remember to say THANK YOU?




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Logic rarely plays a role
Posted by: Brinna on May 17, 2009 9:27 PM   
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I have found, since I have been following this issue that logic and common sense are sorely lacking in our government's approach to drug policy in general and cannabis in particular.

Here is a plant which human beings have had a productive and beneficial relationship with for thousands and thousands of years, and with hubris, and irrationality, our government has actually banned it for the past seven decades.

How utterly ridiculous!

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If legal, no one makes money
Posted by: maxfrisson on May 18, 2009 3:30 AM   
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Cannabis becomes legal, every one will grow at home. Sure there will be a market for premium and specialty strains and for the rich and lazy. But millions will just grow average pot at home. Don't expect a giant tax windfall. Difficult to make beer and wine but growing a herb is simple.

FYI: There are Cannabis Clubs that mail all over the US.

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Warning!
Posted by: LeeAnnG on May 18, 2009 7:37 AM   
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There's a saying among poker players for those who criticize or coach bad players - especially when the bad players are winning: "Don't tap on the aquarium; it disturbs the fish."

Fortunately, the "fish" who are hyping the potency of pot are probably too obtuse to comprehend that they are increasing the desire of smokers to find the enhanced versions of cannibis, even if they read this article. Otherwise, authors of articles like this would be tapping hard on the aquarium.

If anyone in the government's drug war had any sense at all, they'd be promoting how pot doesn't really make you feel all that good anyhow and how it's not nearly as good as it used to be. Oops. Disturbing the fish again.

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Are You Fucking Shitting Me?
Posted by: AlteredStates on May 24, 2009 10:30 AM   
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The pot of the 60's and 70's seems a lot more potent and hard hitting than anything I've seen since those days.

The government (Federal) seems to be the only government agency that wants to maintain the illusory myth that MJ is corrupting our society. Hello!?!? Hey, Mr. Fed., pull your head out of your ass and look at Wall Street, and then, look at D.C. if you want to find corruption. What these guys are doing is nothing short of world-class corruption that is fine tuned for the Ruling Class to enjoy. The ruling class don't like people using pot for one simple reason; pot makes you think. It makes you think about how corrupt and evil this system we live in really is. Pot lets you step off the treadmill of industry and allows free thought to enter. And, the last thing the Ruling Class wants is free thought. Free thought makes you realize that there is more to life than feeding the beast of capitalism. The "Beast" (capitalism) wants you to work, work, work...for them. I don't mean to condemn capitalism. I condemn capitalism run a muck. I was self-employed most of my life, but I'm still not a capitalist. Just a minute...ahh, that's better. Had to light-up.

Welcome to the machine. The machine that favor's the Ruling class and an ever expanding market. A system that sends its' citizens to die in pointless wars that benefit the Ruling Class. Just think; has your life improved since the Korean war, since the Viet Nam war, since Gulf war 1 & 2, since Afghanistan and eventually Pakistan? I didn't think so. Well, stop to smoke the "flowers", and then you will see just "who" it is you are working for. That is why pot is so feared by the Ruling Class. They don't want you to think for yourself, but, instead, they want "group think". "Group think" keeps them safe and keeps you "obedient". But, the control element is fear... in all its' forms. Fear of pot is just one form of control. They use many other types of fear to control the status quo. But, control is their aim...and they are good at it.

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