Home
Archive
Newsletters
Video
Blogs
Discuss
About
Search
Donate
Advertise

Paranoid Authorities Wouldn't Let My Plane Fly Over U.S. Territory -- Was It Something I Wrote?

By Hernando Calvo Ospina , Progreso-Weekly. Posted May 4, 2009.


An AirFrance flight was forced to divert a plane thousands of miles because a journalist was considered a national security threat.

Share and save this post:

      

      

Share on Facebook       

AlterNet Social Networks:
follow us on twitter
find us on Facebook

In Special Coverage

Belief:
Are the "New Atheists" As Bad as Christian Fundamentalists?
Frank Schaeffer

Corporate Accountability and WorkPlace:
How a Public Jobs Program Could Put America Back on Track
Julianne Malveaux

DrugReporter:
Pot Is More Mainstream Than Ever, So Why Is Legalization Still Taboo?
Steven Wishnia

Environment:
Why We Need Bees and More People Becoming Organic Beekeepers
Makenna Goodman

Food:
The Raw Milk Revolution: Behind America's Emerging Battle Over Food Rights
Makenna Goodman

Health and Wellness:
New York May Stop Heartless Health Insurers from Dropping Coverage When It Stops Being Profitable
William Ehart

Immigration:
NYC Marathon Raises Question of Who Is American Enough?
James E. Johnson, Jr.

Media and Technology:
Focusing on Fort Hood Killer's Beliefs Is an Easy Out to Avoid the Deeper Reasons for the Massacre
Mark Ames

Movie Mix:
The Yes Men: Pranksters Out to Fix the World
Mark Engler

Politics:
What Michelle and Barack's Marriage Has in Common with 56 Million Other Ones
Annabelle Gurwitch

Reproductive Justice and Gender:
Fetus-Shaped Potatoes? Going Undercover Inside the Weird World of Right-Wing Abortion Foes
Ann Neumann

Rights and Liberties:
"My Kids Want to Hide Their Identity; They're Scared Someone Will Attack Us": U.S. Muslims Being Targeted
Jaisal Noor

Sex and Relationships:
Instant Sex: Has the Digital Age Destroyed Relationships or Made Them Better?
Vanessa Richmond

Take Action:
G-20 Meetings: Nothing Much Happened in the Suites, and There Was Too Much Punch in the Streets
Laura Flanders

Water:
Why Natural Gas Is Not a Clean Energy Panacea
Stan Cox

World:
With Unemployment at 40 Percent, Afghan Teens Enlist in Army, Police
Lal Aqa Sherin

More stories by Hernando Calvo Ospina

Advertisement
Upcoming AlterNet stories on Digg

Air France Flight 438, from Paris, was to land at Mexico City at 6 p.m. on Saturday, April 18. Five hours before landing, the captain's voice announced that U.S. authorities had prohibited the plane from flying over U.S. territory. The explanation: among the passengers aboard was a person who was not welcome in the United States for reasons of national security.

A few minutes later, the same voice told the startled passengers that the plane was heading for Fort-de-France, Martinique, because the detour the plan needed to take to reach its destination was too long and the fuel was insufficient.

The stopover in that French territory in the Caribbean would be only to refuel the plane. Exhaustion was becoming an issue among the passengers. But the central question, spoken in undertones, was the identity of the "terrorist" passenger, because if the "gringos" say it, "it must be because he must be a terrorist."

Looking at those of us sitting in the back of the plane, two passengers said no terrorist could be there because "nobody there looks like a Muslim."

Again in the air, and preparing for another four hours of travel, a man who identified himself as the copilot came to me. Trying to look discreet, he asked if I was "Mr. Calvo Ospina." I told him yes.

"The captain wants to sleep, that's why I came here," he said, and he invited me to accompany him to the back of the plane. There, he told me that I was the person "responsible" for the detour. I was astonished.

My first reaction was to ask him: "Do you think I'm a terrorist?" He said no, that's the reason I'm telling you this. He also assured me that it was strange that this was the first time it happened on an Air France plane. Shortly before we landed in Martinique, a stewardess had told me that, in her 11-year career, nothing like that had ever happened to her.

Finally, the copilot asked me not to tell anybody, including the rest of the crew. I assured him that I hadn't the slightest intention of doing so.

I returned to my seat. Perhaps through nervousness, I began to notice that the members of the crew walked by me more frequently, looking at me with curiosity.

After landing, before the plane even reached the airport building, a woman's voice asked for "Mr. Calvo Ospina" to meet with a member of the crew as soon as the plane stopped. I did so. The young man picked up a phone and called someone. After hanging up, he told me I was no longer needed and could debark. He told me he knew about my problem and wished me luck.

In an instant, on two pieces of paper I ripped from a newspaper, I wrote the telephone number of my home and gave them to two passengers with whom I had chatted, telling them I was "the problem guy." They assured me they would phone my home, but didn't -- or they couldn't read my numbers.

A few yards from the plane, at the entrance to the terminal, we were awaited by several civilians who asked for our documents. My throat was drying up, due to nerves. I submitted my passport and was allowed to enter. While I waited on line at the immigration desk, I saw several men looking for someone. They stood behind a glass partition, a few steps away from the immigration agents but at a higher level.

The line moved slowly. I was moving, without any choice, to where I felt the worst might happen. But what could I do? The scandal of a man designated as "a terrorist" by the United States could not gain me any supporters. I had to go on. Nothing weighed on my conscience; nothing weighs still.

Then I saw that the three or four men behind the glass partition had identified me. They looked at a computer screen and then at me. I feigned indifference. The man who looked like (and was) the leader, went down to the main floor to talk to the immigration agents. He pretended not to assume that I was "the culprit" but clearly he thought so. And the immigration agents looked into my eyes, unable to conceal that they knew I was the man they were waiting for.

My turn came. I greeted the man politely and he responded in like manner. He looked at the computer, wrote something and told me to wait a minute, said he needed to "verify" something in my passport. He asked me to follow him. I did. He led me to a room next to the glass-enclosed one. A uniformed agent was sitting next to the door, writing something. As soon as I put down my two valises, I told him I needed to go to the bathroom. He pointed me in its direction. I walked through two large semi dark rooms; I saw two people sleeping on the floor, on mats. The bathroom lights didn't work. I urinated without worrying if I hit the toilet seat or not. I couldn't see a thing.

I returned and sat down. I fumbled for a book, displaying tranquility, but my throat remained dry. A few minutes later, the same man who watched me from the glass enclosure returned and politely asked me to follow him. We walked into the glass-enclosed room, he sat behind a desk and asked me to sit in one of two chairs. As I did, I noticed that a man was standing behind me, to my left. A woman checked a computer and documents, paying no attention to us.

The first thing the man told me was that I shouldn't worry, that they only wanted to verify a few things. He said that "five information sources" in data bases had shown some information about me. He said they "simply" needed to make a "summary." He showed me a package that contained about 200 sheets of paper, stapled together in five booklets.

I calmed down, forgot about my dry throat and told him: "Ask whatever you want. I have nothing to hide." He repeated that it was a simple, brief matter and that I could leave later. Knowing the police, I had my doubts.

I asked him if those many sheets of paper said that I was guilty of something. The man who was standing answered that I was there at the request of U.S. authorities. He said I should know that, after Sept. 11, 2001, the Americans had stepped up their "cooperation" work.

Then I asked them: "So, am I to blame for the plane's rerouting?" They said no, they understood it had been a mere technical stopover. I told them they knew it wasn't so, that the plane's captain had told everyone that the stopover was due to a passenger. They smiled, looked at each other, and resumed the questions. They asked me for my name, date of birth, residence, etc. Nothing special, nothing that wasn't already in my documents. The seated officer kept repeating that I could leave without any problem in a few minutes. The standing officer posed the more "remarkable" questions.

"Are you a Catholic?" he asked. I answered no, but I am not a Muslim either, knowing how "dangerous" this religious belief has become to certain policemen.

"Do you know how to handle firearms?" I told him that the only time I held one I was very young; it was a shotgun and I was knocked down by the recoil. I never even went through military service, I said. In fact, I added, "my only weapon is my writing, especially to denounce the American government, whom I consider terrorist."

They looked at each other, and the seated man said something I already knew: "That weapon sometimes is worse than rifles and bombs."

They asked me why I was traveling to Nicaragua the following day, and I explained that I had to write a story for Le Monde Diplomatique. They asked me for my personal address, as well as the home phone and cell phone numbers, which I gave them without hesitation. They asked me if I had children. A girl and a boy, I answered. The standing man, who by then had sat down next to me, said calmly: "How nice that you have a boy-and-girl couple. That's nice." He sounded almost sincere.

That was basically the interrogation, which seemed more like a chat. The notes made by the seated man did not fill a page. The notes made by the other man did not fill a notepad page. It seemed to me that the latter worked for a more specialized intelligence agency. At no time did either official speak aggressively or threateningly. They were very courteous and proper.

Finally, they returned my identification papers after photocopying them. And we parted with a handshake. It was almost 2 a.m., Sunday, April 19, 2009. At 10:30 a.m. I boarded a plane for Managua without any difficulty. But I still think that it was a dream bordering on a nightmare. I still don't believe that I was "guilty of detouring an Air France 747 because of the 'fears' of U.S. authorities."

How much did it all cost? Only Air France knows. It had to pay for hotel rooms and food for at least half the passengers, who missed their connections. I witnessed the other passengers' exhaustion, especially the children, some of whom began to vomit, fearing that among them was a "terrorist." I also saw the tranquility of the crew members in my presence. Later I learned that all of them were aware of the situation, but it didn't seem to me that they believed I was guilty of a crime.

How far will the U.S. authorities' paranoia go? And why do Air France and the French authorities continue to keep silent about it all?


Digg!    Share on facebook   submit to reddit    Bookmark on Delicious   Stumble This  

See more stories tagged with: us, journalist, colombia, hernando calvo ospina, airfrance, terror laws

Hernando Calvo Ospina, a Colombian journalist and writer, lives in France.

Liked this story? Get top stories in your inbox each week from AlterNet! Sign up now »


Advertisement
Advertisement

 

Comments Turn comments off sitewide Give us feedback »
Comments closed.
The comments for this story have been closed. Thank you to everyone who participated.
View:
Sad and Frightening
Posted by: Rolomax on May 4, 2009 12:37 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It almost sounds like a stupid fear game. Maybe they hoped it would be written about.

I can't help but wonder.. A means to an end? What are the motives?

Air France wouldn't blow a few hundred thousand dollars in fuel costs for something silly.

A hardline Right Wing U.S. Department Head of (You name it) might gain a few points against his Leader for something like this.. ?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» the illusion---of security Posted by: sunnywater
» RE: the illusion---of security Posted by: Shrapnel
I had hoped Obama would stop this nonsense
Posted by: Libsrule on May 4, 2009 1:26 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
But apparently Obama has bought into the same old BS from our so called Homeland Security bums. People should be allowed to contest their names on ANY list.

There are tens of thousands of Americans who are forbidden to fly and the U.S. government refuses to allow anyone to know they are on the list NOR will they allow them to be taken off of the list.

I have a casual friend who cannot fly and after trying for two years cannot get a reason or be taken off the list despite no reason why he is on it. He doesn't write, and is a profession car photographer.That's it. Born in America, with an American wife and two kids. He's of Irish descent and she's of Italian descent.

But Homeland Security says he is not allowed to fly.

This has got to stop.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Everything is Israel's fault Posted by: ozonehole
» RE: very thing is Israel's fault Posted by: The Cynical Skeptic
Great service
Posted by: reinaldok on May 4, 2009 2:49 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Alternet has done all of us a great service by publishing this. Will some adventurous writer in the MSM follow up? (It might be a long wait)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Great service Posted by: oldhippy39
» RE: Great service Posted by: DaBear
Great service
Posted by: reinaldok on May 4, 2009 2:50 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Alternet has done all of us a great service by publishing this. Will some adventurous writer in the MSM follow up? (It might be a long wait)

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

We deserve this. And journalists deserve this....for allowing the fairtale 9/11 story to live on.
Posted by: pfgetty on May 4, 2009 3:01 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
All of this comes from 9/11.........people being aggravated and incredible costs incurred all over the world, because journalists refuse to expose the lies of 9/11.

Journalists have the responsibility of looking into issues with an open mind, having the curiosity to follow the stories to the end, looking for inconsistencies leading to lies and criminal behavior.
Journalists all over the world have decided that 9/11 truth is just too hot. Some don't even look at any of it because it is too scary to write about it anyway. Most, I think, realize that there are real problems with the official story, and even look a bit into the evidence that proves the 9/11 story to be a hoax, and then back off.

And so we live with what 9/11 brought us...Homeland Security insanity, illegal wars and occupation, the Patriot Act, torture and rendition, and on and on.
And we deserve it. All of it. Because we, and journalists like those on Alternet, will not take the time to look at and expose the lies of 9/11.
Journalists.........a disgusting lot these days......how can they not look into such glaring contradictions like:

1. money sent to Atta from the head of Pakistani ISI
2. so called Islamic fundamentalist hijackers that were fun loving drinking coke sniffing, whoring guys with ties to the CIA
3. a plane crash in PA with almost no parts of the plane
4. a flight path of the Pentagon crash that is proven erroneous
5. four planes never intercepted by the US military. We still have no acceptable reason. It is impossible without a standdown.
6. the collapse of three WTC buildings at free fall speed.........impossible
7. and now, a paper by Steven Jones that proves huge amounts of thermite in the dust of the collapses.

and much, much more.

Not one of these, nor any of the other impossibilities and implausibilities, are examined by the press. No journalist is honest and brave enough to put their reputation on the line and go after any of this.

And so, I am not very worried about journalists being inconvenienced by what 9/11 has brought us. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people have lost their lives, their loved ones, been maimed, lost their homes, been tortured, and imprisoned because of 9/11. These people REALLY suffer, and do so because of journalists being irresponsible.

I'm sorry but I just can't feel bad for this journalist. He deserves it. All journalists do.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Thanks so much fsuthai. Posted by: pfgetty
» You're a liar. Posted by: Alan8
» Really? I'm a liar AND a neo-con? Posted by: GuitarBill
» Then answer the question. Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: eally? I'm a liar AND a neo-con? Posted by: Reader in Japan
» That's not a coherent reply. Posted by: NYmediator
» Great information, GB. Posted by: pfgetty
» You're incapable of learning. Posted by: GuitarBill
» You are screwed. Posted by: pfgetty
» RE: You are screwed. Posted by: bornxeyed
Sorry, this comment has been removed from the system.
» That proves nothing Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: That proves nothing Posted by: pfgetty
» Why is NIST lying here? Posted by: pfgetty
» RE: Why is NIST lying here? Posted by: Krotos
» Mistakes, my @$$ Posted by: GuitarBill
» That's ridiculous. Posted by: pfgetty
» The Krotos Challenge Posted by: bornxeyed
» After the fall Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: After the fall Posted by: Krotos
» RE: After the fall Posted by: bornxeyed
» the apple and the grape Posted by: bornxeyed
» And it didn't. Posted by: Krotos
» RE: And it didn't. Posted by: pfgetty
» RE: And it didn't. Posted by: Krotos
» RE: After the fall Posted by: Krotos
» RE: After the fall Posted by: bornxeyed
» 911 Truth? Posted by: bornxeyed
» What nanothermite? Posted by: brunowe
» RE: What nanothermite? Posted by: pfgetty
» HERE IS A GOOD OVERVIEW: Posted by: pfgetty
» Guitar Bill, lying again Posted by: Alan8
» Alan8 is lying. Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Alan8 is lying. Posted by: bornxeyed
» You can't even argue on point Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Guitar Bill, lying again Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Guitar Bill, lying again Posted by: bornxeyed
» More 911 "truth" video fakery. Posted by: GuitarBill
The Worst Democrat Ever™
Posted by: Perry Logan on May 4, 2009 3:07 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm not surprised to see this continue under Obama.

The guy will go down in history as The Worst Democrat Ever™.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Jerkiest post ever™ Posted by: Fencerider
This jo doesn't deserve this...
Posted by: Frankenstein Dragon on May 4, 2009 4:34 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It is not fair to say this journalist deserves this treatment--they are terrorizing him because he denounces USA. Do you know hwat he has written about it? He's a coulmbian from france. He admits in this article that he has written about America being a terrist nation. HOw do we know that some JOs haven't written about it--they can write whatever they want--but the media co. doesnt have to publish it and wont and they fire the JO--so what they need to do is start publishing in alternative media with their big names--but they will still lose thier job, and aristocratic status--they have been co-opted with money and power, and threatend.

Why do yu think they asked ole-boy here if he had children? Why do you think the spook said--'ho, that's nice.' it was a threat. They have no problem killing your children, or putting them on a blacklist and ruining thier lives.

We are all in danger. It is time to rise up! MIllions in the street will show them we cant be brutalized and made to be their slaves.

This real. Now is th time. We live unde rthe most fascist all-powerful regime ever. They killed american citizens on 911 and sent them to a ridiculous war based on lies and treason. Our fore-fathers gave us permission to rise up in times like this--this is exactly what they meant. But they couldnt have know the horrors this evil empire would be capable of.

I will not bring children into this world. It would be a very cruel thing to do. Stop work. JOin hands. Provide for yourself. rise up! It is time once again for revolution! We should not have to live in fear! Rise up! Dont kill people, just detain them, kidnap them, march in the streets and stop production, stop buying things. They need you to buy things to garner power--their whole system depends on it--they need you alive and dumb to be consumers. Rise up!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Maybe you are right... Posted by: pfgetty
» I had a lot more respect... Posted by: buffeliscious
Can we trust Alternet?
Posted by: Frankenstein Dragon on May 4, 2009 4:45 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
HOw do we know Alternet wont give up our names to these people? how do I know I wont get put on a list for a comment i make today here at Alternet?

ANything you want to say Alternet? Joshua HOlland? Can we trust you?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Tell us, born brain-dead Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Tell us, born brain-dead Posted by: bornxeyed
» Seriously? Posted by: NYmediator
» Can you read? Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Can you read? Posted by: bornxeyed
» Jesus, you're stupid. Posted by: GuitarBill
» Jesus - you're clueless Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Yeh Bring Em On! Posted by: edgar_michel
Firsthand Experience
Posted by: DrBrian on May 4, 2009 5:41 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm already on the list, too, for giving medical assistance under fire to unarmed pro-democracy protesters in Nepal in 1996. I treated police, too, and was a registered physician there and had taken permits from the police to exempt me from the curfew.

It's very sad that the Bush and Obama regimes consider peace, democracy and humanitarian assistance subversive, but that's the era in which we live.

The American people duly cheered the shredding of the Constitution and revocation of the pillars of international human rights law, believing it would keep them safe from terrorism.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Firsthand Experience Posted by: Erin
» Hi pfgetty... Posted by: Centavo
» The word 'hero' Posted by: NYmediator
Compassion Please
Posted by: gsmiley on May 4, 2009 5:56 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
A paranoid state bureaucracy striking out in frustration at their imagined enemies is a leading indicator - these idiots are going down- ungently into that good night. Last year the Brits deported my son on arriving at Heathrow because he had the audacity to fly over from the Canadian oilpatch to see his girlfriend on a one way ticket and hadn't thought to leave his workboots at home. Obviously he had intended to take a good Englishman's job. And now there aren't any jobs (or good Englishmen either judging from my own experience in the blue collar world.) Poles, Irish and any other employables are going home for a better life. What more can one say.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Compassion Please Posted by: luzmejor
» T'row da bums out Posted by: BlueTigress
Millions of People are Effectively on No Fly lists with regards to the USA
Posted by: tony_opmoc on May 4, 2009 6:21 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The US offers a visa waiver program for many countries including the UK for visits of up to 90 days. However, if you have ever been arrested (even if not convicted of any offense) you cannot use the visa waiver program - and if you try to do so you will receive a lifetime ban with regards to travel to the US.

Now as a result of Tony Blair's insanity, it has been normal UK police practice to arrest exceeding large numbers of young people. The vast majority are not charged with any offence - but receive an official warning and have their DNA taken and it is recorded on the UK Police Database. This database is shared with the US. If you are on it - you will not gain entry to the US. You will only gain entry if you apply for a full visa and declare the detail of your arrest - and your visa application is approved. This can take several months.

So most people who have been arrested - don't go anywhere near the US. Even if you have never been arrested - and have conformed to all rules and regulations you can still be denied entry on the whim of an immigration official who might take a dislike to your physical appearence. You can be sent back on the next flight at your own expense for no reason.

However this no fly list also applies to several US senior politicians with regards to certain countries in Europe. If they end up in a country that takes the Geneva convention seriously they are liable to be arrested and put on trial for War Crimes against humanity.

Tony

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Old story, new twist
Posted by: chorton on May 4, 2009 6:45 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The Masters of the Empire have been keeping out journalists and writers since the '50's, only then it was packaged as keeping out and sanctioning "pro-communist" journalists and writers (such as Irish playwright Sean O'Casey, or Canada's beloved Farley Mowat, who dared to contrast Soviet policy toward indigenous peoples favorably to that accorded by Canada and the US.)

The McCarthy terror, which crushed or isolated America's working-class left and scattered the critics of its empire building, was above all the first demonstration of the power of the new mass media - radio and TV - to control what people know and think and even what they dare to say to each other. Enforced conformity within the media community was essential to its success.

Control of information is key to their game; and controlling it in a way that is invisible to most of us in the US, or in such a way that we can dismiss it as something being done to people who "aren't like us", is essential to its effectiveness. Stories like this should be broadcast far and wide to expose their game and encourage both journalists and readers to break the news blockade.

As for Obama, this state-sponsored thought control has been going on since long before he was born and we shouldn't assume he approved it or can easily control it; but neither should we let him off the hook. He can only act to change something so entrenched and sensitive to the ruling class in response to massive pressure. As a professional organizer he understands this and has signaled it to us in many ways. So it's up to us. Demand that he put a stop to it. But draw the line at the "he's worse than Bush" talk; that only divides the people on our side of the issue.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

morgan1
Posted by: morgan1 on May 4, 2009 6:49 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I don't believe there is any limit to the childish paranoia of the WH and DHS. The "no fly" list is really a mess along with the listing of terrorist organizations that are anything but that as well as protesters names (And groups),dissidents and journalists. They are terrified of our own, the proof being how they keep taking away our rights and legal protections. This is horrible.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Idiots ...
Posted by: monkeywrench on May 4, 2009 8:56 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What in hell did they think this guy was going to do, throw something out of an open window at 35,000 feet? They could have allowed the plane to land at its original destination, quietly removed him and interrogated him there (IF that was even necessary), and then stuck him on a flight to Managua, all without inconveniencing the other passengers (who would have been none the wiser) or causing him to have to pay for their lodging and meals. America would still have been safe from the dastardly journalist.

I can't tell if this incident was a case of harrassment (which I suspect), or just plain stupidity and paranoia; either way, though, it doesn't speak well for our government's bravery nor its common sense (especially the latter). It's the same mentality that causes the police to charge a person with assault with a deadly weapon for flicking a cigarette butt at someone. Overzealous idiots.

Just another fine example of our tax dollars at work.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» It was neither Posted by: Alan8
» RE: Idiots ... Posted by: bornxeyed
Apology
Posted by: BlueTigress on May 4, 2009 9:52 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
On behalf of the people of the United States, I apologize to Mr. Ospina for our stupid government agents.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Imagine
Posted by: Archie1954 on May 4, 2009 11:08 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Imagine a whole country of 330,000,000 people just quaking in their boots due to the writings of one fearless individual willing to tell the truth. When fear runs rampant like this it must mean that consciences are guilty as sin. The US is acting like a rogue nation and should be treated as such. They most certainly have a right to keep whomever they want out of their country for good resons, bad reasons or no reasons at all but they had better not complain if other countries do the same to them. After all the majority of Americans agree with and support their government's use of torture, illegal renditions (breaking the laws of other countries) and endless war on innocent peoples worldwide. They should all be interdicted and kept within America's borders. They cause too much trouble when they are allowed to roam free.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Imagine Posted by: Aquinas
What happened to this author...
Posted by: Quannah on May 4, 2009 11:10 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
is a giant mindfuck meant to harass and intimidate him. Why else would the captain (obviously told by Air France officials) feel the need to make a public announcement like they did?

It had the bonus effect of terrifying the other passengers, but by the co-captain coming to the back of the plane to inform the author that HE was the "security risk," it was only to serve as a "warning" that he was being surveilled, no matter where he goes. In other words, he better watch his step.

I've been pulled off line 4 of the last 5 times I've flown in this country. They always tell me it's just a random "enhanced security" screening. As I pointed out last year when I flew to Detroit, 4 out of 5 times is not random. Twice, I've had "pat downs" and who knows how well they went through my luggage, because when I opened it at the hotel, my stuff was a mess.

This is authoritarian, paranoid bullshit. Why are they focusing on innocent citizens just trying to travel? This is ridiculous. I'm sick of living in a police state.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: This is... Posted by: fearn
» RE: This is... Posted by: bornxeyed
Definitely NOT Administration's Incompetence
Posted by: justAnEgg on May 4, 2009 11:24 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Polish pianist stops show with anti-US tirade

The Guardian, Tuesday 28 April 2009

"Krystian Zimerman, the great Polish concert pianist, is usually a man of few words. He doesn't, as a rule, talk to the audience during performances. He says little or nothing in the press between his all-too-rare concert tours - not even about his habit of travelling everywhere with his own Steinway grand piano. He rarely grants them the pleasure of an encore.

So he triggered more than the usual rumble of discomfort when he raised his voice in the closing stages of a recital at Los Angeles' Disney Hall on Sunday night and announced he would no longer perform in the United States in protest against Washington's military policies.

"Get your hands off my country," Zimerman told the stunned crowd in a denunciation of US plans to install a missile defence shield on Polish soil. Some people cheered, others yelled at him to shut up and keep playing. A few dozen walked out, some of them shouting obscenities.

"Yes," Zimerman responded with derision, "some people when they hear the word military start marching."

According to Mark Swed, the Los Angeles Times's veteran classical music critic who witnessed the incident, Zimerman hesitated before deciding to speak up. He was about to strike up the first notes of the final piece on his programme, Karol Szymanowski's Variations on a Polish Folk Theme, when he "sat silently at the piano for a moment, almost began to play, but then turned to the audience".

Swed said he delivered his tirade "in a quiet but angry voice that did not project well".

Zimerman appears to have been upset by Barack Obama's decision, announced this month, to maintain the Bush-era policy of installing a missile defence shield in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Obama insisted the shield was part of a defensive posture against Iran, not Russia, and that he intended to remove it as soon as the threat from Iran subsided. But many Poles have accused the US of wanting to mount a military occupation of their country, and fear the shield could make them a target of Russian aggression.
:
:
Zimerman, though, has developed something of a track record - especially since the 9/11 attacks. In 2006 he announced he would not return to the United States until George Bush was out of office. The same year, at Baltimore's Shriver Hall, he prefaced his performance of Beethoven's Pathetique sonata with a denunciation of America's prison at Guantánamo Bay.

At least some of his opprobrium appears to be personal. Shortly after 9/11, his piano was confiscated by customs officials at New York's JFK airport, who thought the glue smelled funny. They subsequently destroyed the instrument.

For several years he chose to travel with just the mechanical insides of his own piano and install them - he is a master piano repairer, as well as player - inside a Steinway shell he borrowed from the company in New York. In 2006 he tried to travel with his own piano again, only to have it held up in customs for five days and disrupt his performance schedule."


It's not about idiotic, incompetent Administration, it's about intimidation and harassment of political opponents both in the USA and world-wide. "Political opponent" being anyone from anti-war movement to Green party members to artists and journalists.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Wow. Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» Sweet REDNECK PARANOIA! Posted by: ScoobyDoobyDoo
This happens everywhere!
Posted by: messedup on May 4, 2009 12:09 PM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We just don't notice. A friend/activist/employee at a university wrote an article and it was published in one of the local rags, yep they pulled him aside and said simply, "we are watching you".

From small to large incident, this occurs all over fascist America.

The reason they are being so polite about it is so as to attract less attention, and they probably realized the watchers are being watched! If you are a true patriot, it's pretty likely that you have been profiled, watched, or are on some kind of list somewhere. Not that it's a big deal, I mean, it's still a free country, with free speech, and if the powers that be want to pull you aside and question you, they have every right to do so.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» wow, you're naïve to be for real... Posted by: BlueBerry PickN
» so you're saying Posted by: Bliss Doubt
Unbelievable...no, believable.
Posted by: alicelillie on May 4, 2009 1:09 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Just another way to discourage us anti-establishment bloggers and others from speaking out against the actions of the government.

Seems it does not matter *at all* whether the administration is Democrat or Republican. Whether Bush or Obama is in the White House. This happens.

And it is this *very* thing that is the first most important reason I speak out on my blog and elsewhere.

Bad monetary policies are ruining the economy so this past winter I decided to write on that.

See http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I know for a fact that
Posted by: TruthBeTold on May 4, 2009 3:21 PM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
President personally ordered that this French plane not be allowed to overfly the U.S.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: I know for a fact that Posted by: Quannah
Sweet REDNECK PARANOIA!
Posted by: ScoobyDoobyDoo on May 4, 2009 4:38 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The fanatic fringe on the right has that je ne se qua... REDNECK PARANOIA, because being themselves so untrustworthy they suspect anyone that is not marching in step with them, and the moment they are out of power, they are ready to get their guns and start something, a la McVeigh.

Understandably they project themselves on those who disagrees with them: they believe anyone who opposses them will use their trademark tactics of intimidation, force, violence, sabotage, illegal wiretapping, torture, terrorism and election fraud. Got to watch these wackos closely, and even if Obama was all we wished for (which he's not), there would be plenty of wackos left in government to do everything in their power to preserve the emerging fascist Bush legacy they love so much.

Here's a good sample of why this journalist is so despised by CIA, NED, etc.: http://www.zmag.org/znet/viewArticle/14759

rEVOLUTION OF THE MIND: evolumental.com

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

America is a Fascist Police State and anyone who doesn't know that by now is a moron!
Posted by: Cathyc on May 4, 2009 5:13 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
With respect to the tiny minority of Americans who do know this, the fact is, the majority of Americans are too fucking dumb - that is, so numbed with FEAR - to even care about being repeatedly raped!

When you have been conditioned as a child to perceive physical and/or psychological rape as "normal" human behaviour - because that is what you experienced throughout your childhood on a daily basis - it is INEVITABLE that you become a PASSIVE imbecile as an adult!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Rule of thump
Posted by: Jamesberry on May 4, 2009 6:28 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Writer should learn you don't answer even one question from a cop without your lawyer present. They may pretend to be friendly but are trying to jam you up. You were obviously suspected of a serious crime. You say nothing without a lawyer present.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

I'm OUTRAGED
Posted by: cmclaren on May 4, 2009 10:07 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As a Veteran I am both Outraged by this egregarious behaviour on the part of My government and am ashamed FOR my country. That we have stooped to this level of fear mongering and persecution, which belies our Constitution and National Ethos that we have espoused and broadcast to the world for over 200 years now..... By refusing to speak and act against such things, we ALL give our consent, and aide and abet such things done in ALL our names and reperesentative of Our Beliefs and Ethics. Journalists alone are not enough. To steal from a much better writer and speaker than I its past time for ALL of us to stand and ..... "Cry Havoc, and let loose the pens of Truth" ......
pax

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Terrorizing Passengers
Posted by: vioibi on May 5, 2009 4:33 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So if you are not American and politically disagree with US policies and write about it they can humiliate you on the plane and scare the hell out of the passengers. Why would they even announce that? Isn't that causing unnecessary mental anguish to everyone on board? When I used to travel by train from Canada to the US, the US customs agents (with a security guy who had a gun) would come on board at Port Huron and check documents of all the passengers and ask their reason for visiting etc,. Certain people were removed from the train for further interviewing. Some were allowed to reboard, some weren't. Of course, this was well before 9/11. It was still a nerve racking experience because you never knew who they might select. If you were refused entry you could never travel to the US again. This process is far more stressful now obviously.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Terrorizing Passengers Posted by: Archie1954
U.S injustice is not uncommon.
Posted by: mghuk on May 5, 2009 4:35 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This is not about Obama, and I doubt very seriously that he will be able to change anything that is already in place. Let me tell you why. What happened to this journalist is not uncommon anymore. I myself cannot enter the U.S, and if I do I face 20 years in prison. I have for the last 20 years been fighting the U.S government over my deportation. I currently have a Petition for a "Writ of Habeas Corpus that is to be heard on June 10, 2009 in the Eight Judicial District Court Clark County, Nevada. My Petition was drafted and filed pro-se based upon the fact this would cost me over $100.000.00 to obtain proper legal representation. The Department of homeland Security is where the problem lies. This government body will not allow me into the country to defend myself that they know would subject them to very harsh consequences, based upon what they have done to me and my family on a personal basis and not legal basis.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

OF COURSE it was something you SAID or DID
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 5, 2009 8:45 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
because the United States is full of 'patriotic' nutjobs who can't differentiate between the levels of patriotism present in most developing nations & the freaky, goosestepping & xenophobic kind demonstrated by anyone who finishes GradeSchool in AmeriKKKa.

When the audience of Colbert can be roused in under 15 seconds to a chant of 'USA! USA! USA!' you know you're not dealing with a society of free-thinkers or even deliberative thinkers...

you're dealing with zombies.

zombies with WAAAAY too many guns, the World's largest military & surveillance budgets...

with a sickening xenophobic predeliction to shriek about how everybody sucks but AmeriKKa.

should you DARE suggest anything to the contrary or give any other nation or culture the respect, human rights or Good Faith negotiations they deserve?

why you're a terrorist, right?

come on.
now you know how the REST of the World has had to live with AmeriKKKa as a whole for some time now.

Unfortunately, it had to happen to many good people before any US citizens were even willing to consider it wasn't an 'asset'

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Justify the anti terrorism and other fees tacked on to the air fare
Posted by: vsargis on May 5, 2009 12:24 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
A pregnant woman was subject to similar harassment, being "barefoot and pregnant" took on a whole new meaning.

It is amazing that we continue to allow our governments and our airlines to bully and harass us thus. What happened to the Obama’s promises of open borders?

What happens to all of the money that usually doubles our air fares which is collected as the various "terrorism," "security fees," taxes etc. on top of the fares? Now they are even charging for baggage, where will this end?

We get screened at the port of departure and again upon arrival, what changes in flight? Do the terrorism tools spring up from somewhere during flight and plant themselves on passengers? Not only does it waste time, it also adds to fatigue. We can’t even bring our own water; we have to get fleeced by the airport vendors to purchase the same water for ten times the price!

It is also sad that Ospina's fellow travelers could not even make the call for him to let his family know about what is going on. What gives? Have we become so suspicious of our fellow beings that we are willing to think the worst of them? What happened to the reputation of Americans as being friendly and generous people?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

But for the Owning Class... we might have civil and human rights
Posted by: DaBear on May 5, 2009 2:07 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Notice the silence from the Hope-Change cult on this story.

Notice the perpetuation of the hyper-Right-Wing, 'Merkaaner stoopid craptasm posing as "national security."

Notice the rich people being bailed out while lower middlings and lowers are thrown out to the curb.

Notice the Hope-Change Dims running the show.

Notice the Repukes convulsing in their new surge of fascism and Xtian nationalist dysphoria.

Seems to me it's the rich people doing all of this shit. Begs the question, you gonna keep tolerating being shat upon? Or you gonna fight back?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Whos the threat?
Posted by: osd on May 6, 2009 8:41 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Same old pissing contest and sack dragger motives. State Dept. still thumping it's chest and dragging its knuckles on the ground and claiming homeland security. Makes you wonder who is the real threat in the world? We should all be able to say "Abuse of Power" by now.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Animal Farm...
Posted by: frank69 on May 8, 2009 2:28 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Remember, all animals are equal. Except the pigs since they are smarter. Or richer . Or both.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Hello
Posted by: Silly Sapper on May 9, 2009 5:13 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Hello

He is FARC.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

  • AlterNetYour turn

Support AlterNet
Do you value the information you're getting from AlterNet? Please show your support with a tax-deductible donation.


Feedback
Tell us how we're doing.

Advertisement
Advertisement