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U.S. Cities Increasing Use of Armed Mercenaries to Replace Police

By Jeremy Scahill, Rebel Reports. Posted April 24, 2009.


Some estimate that private security inside the US actually outnumber police 5-to-1.

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The United States is in the midst of the most radical privatization agenda in its history. We see this in schools, health care, prisons, and certainly with the US military/national security/intelligence apparatus.

There are almost 200,000 "private contractors" in Iraq (more than U.S. soldiers) and President Barack Obama is continuing to use mercenaries there and in Afghanistan and Israel/Palestine. At present, 70 percent of the U.S. intelligence budget is going to private companies.

This privatization trend is hardly new, but it is accelerating. While events such as the Nisour Square massacre committed in September 2007 by Blackwater operatives in Baghdad show the lethal danger of unleashing mercenary forces on foreign soil, one area with the potential for extreme abuses resulting from this privatization is in domestic law enforcement in the U.S.

Many people may not be aware of this, but since the 1980s, private security guards have outnumbered police officers.

"The more than 1 million contract security officers, and an equal number of guards estimated to work directly for U.S. corporations, dwarf the nearly 700,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the United States," according to the Washington Post. Some estimate that private security operate inside the U.S. at a 5-to-1 ratio with police.

In New Orleans, in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and the flooding of the city, private security poured in. Armed operatives from companies like Blackwater, Wackenhut, Intercon and DynCorp spread out in the city. Within two weeks of the hurricane, the number of private security companies registered in Louisiana jumped from 185 to 235.

In New Orleans at the time, I interviewed Israeli commandos from a company called Instinctive Shooting International as they operated an armed checkpoint on Charles Street after having been hired by a wealthy businessman. I also interviewed private guards who bragged of shooting "black gangbangers."

The abuses by private security guards in New Orleans and elsewhere has not to this day been thoroughly investigated. Moreover, the legality and constitutionality of the deployment of these modern-day Pinkertons needs to be seriously explained to the U.S. public.

Now it seems that some cities think it is a great idea to expand the use of these private forces using taxpayer funds.

The Wall Street Journal this week reported, "Facing pressure to crack down on crime amid a record budget deficit, Oakland is joining other U.S. cities that are turning over more law-enforcement duties to private armed guards. The City Council recently voted to hire International Services Inc., a private security agency, to patrol crime-plagued districts. While a few Oakland retail districts previously have pooled cash to pay for unarmed security services, using public funds to pay for private armed guards would mark a first for the city."

In a stunning development revealed late Wednesday night, Oakland dropped its plan to hire International Services Inc. after the firm's founder and two other executives were arrested on charges of defrauding the state of California out of more than $9 million in workers compensation.

Although this particular company may be going down in flames, that doesn't seem to deter Oakland's advocates for using private forces. According to the WSJ:

Ignacio De La Fuente, a city council member who led the drive to hire armed guards, said he will push to retain another security service. "There is still a very serious need for security in some of our more crime-plagued areas," he said. Before selecting [International Services Inc.], Mr. De La Fuente said, he and representatives of Oakland's police department interviewed security candidates and found nothing out of the ordinary.

Regardless of the specific company, this trend toward hiring private security companies is an ominous development. As it is, Oakland (and many other cities) have severe problems holding accountable police (and other law enforcement) for brutality and extrajudicial killings.

"Oakland, unfortunately, has had a history of treating the African American community unfairly," said George Holland Sr., an attorney who heads the Oakland chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. "The community has a great distrust for police officers because they feel they can't be punished."


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Jeremy Scahill, an independent journalist who reports frequently for the national radio and TV program Democracy Now, has spent extensive time reporting from Iraq and Yugoslavia. He is currently a Puffin Writing Fellow at The Nation Institute. Scahill is the author of Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army. His writing and reporting is available at RebelReports.com.

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Serve and protect
Posted by: colinsyme on Apr 24, 2009 1:29 AM   
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As l have no idea what the remit is of private security firms in the US (l live in the UK) l can only comment on the principal of policing which is primary " to serve and protect the civilian population" most police forces in the free world are accountable to the people they serve and subject to internal discipline and answer to local government, a job, by and large they do quite well. l believe that once you stray from this pricipal and allow yourselves to be ruled by a rag-tag army of armed thugs who answer to a profit focused CEO who might or might not have an ulterior political agenda then you go down a road that ultimately leads to hell,---and civil war!

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How does this work?
Posted by: joebanana on Apr 24, 2009 1:34 AM   
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Do these rentacops have the power to arrest, detain, "interrogate"?
Or do they work on a shoot to kill, immunity will cover it, basis? Will asset forfeiture proceeds go directly to them? Are they "sworn"? Will they carry military assault weapons? Will they serve warrants? Will they need a high school diploma? Will they make more money, have better benefits, a retirement plan, in other words, will they be more "upper class" than the working shmoe that they control?

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» RE: How does this work? Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: How does this work? Posted by: MT512
» How do gangs work? Posted by: Ripcord
Fascism
Posted by: warrior woman on Apr 24, 2009 1:35 AM   
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Fascism. That's it, folks. Fascism.

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In the history of idiotic ideas
Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 24, 2009 2:45 AM   
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privatization will get a whole chapter.

In other news: our votes are still being counted by wildly partisan right-wing companies.

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» RE: In the history of idiotic ideas Posted by: gimmie shelter
Fine Line
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Apr 24, 2009 3:44 AM   
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That's one short step away from death squads.


FREE AMERICA

VOCA, NOW!!

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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What's driving this? Cost?
Posted by: taxidriver on Apr 24, 2009 4:46 AM   
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I suppose private contractors are, in theory, cheaper (you know, no annoying police unions, no pensions after 30 danger-filled years on the mean streets, no health benefits paid for by the city, etc.).

But, where's the accountability? Where's the local street smarts?

I have a police officer in my family, and she's good precisely because she grew up in my hometown. She's not a hired gun from outside, but a true citizen of her city who's just trying to keep the peace. And she's worth every penny of her health care, her future pension, etc.

Mercenaries on American streets? Insane.

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» RE: What's driving this? Cost?/I Agree Posted by: ron heringhauser
Remember When.....
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 24, 2009 5:05 AM   
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Remember Hitler's Brown Shirts? They were a private security firm. They were actually causing mischief, roaming the streets of Berlin and Munich and Hamburg before the Nazis came to power. Honestly, do we really want to go down that road?

Didn't the Constitution say something about this in the Second Amendment? It's the part that the Right Wing always conveniently omits whenever they quote it. It's something about a "well regulated militia". It says nothing about a single individual owning a company that could conceivably make war on the citizenship if directed to do so by a misguided (or stupidly insane) president.

Call it a hunch but me thinks that the whole idea of Blackwater et.al. could be challenged in the courts as un-Constitutional.

Coddlin' Them Dictators

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: Remember When..... Posted by: Zeugitai
» RE: emember When..... Posted by: MT512
The day a rentacop tries any shit with me will be the day the rentacop get his throat slit.
Posted by: thekidde on Apr 24, 2009 5:10 AM   
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These fuckers are no more than Nazi henchmen. They can die.

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» check the credentials of Posted by: Ripcord
We now have our own
Posted by: marid on Apr 24, 2009 5:54 AM   
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Hessians, the mercenaries we fought against in our own Revolutionary War. Always the answer in America is to ratchet up the violence, privatize the expenses, and people be damned. Never actually try to find root causes and address them. More money in violence and money rules all!

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» RE: We now have our own Posted by: Zeugitai
Living in the Constitution "free" zone
Posted by: cactus on Apr 24, 2009 6:13 AM   
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I live in the Constitution "free" zone; a 100 mile area stretching from the US border inward. You can check some interesting facts at the ACLU link below;
http://www.aclu.org/privacy/37293res20081022.html

Here in southern AZ at any moment you might be stopped and interrogated by the BP, CBP, ICE, DEA, ATF, FWS, BLM, FS, Sheriff's dept., local police, or DPS. Oh, and the Minutemen, they will stop and question you also but not on the main roads only on deserted backroads like if you're driving to a trailhead in the back-country. Of course we had the National Guard for a time and they may be back. I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI and the CIA were wandering around out here, too. Actually the FBI probably is since they handle major crimes on the Res.

IMHO there is something fundamentally wrong at the core of our culture that we believe we need to have such an overwhelming number of 'policemen'. I can't imagine how much all this 'law' enforcement must be costing us - not to mention all the prisons springing up to house dangerous criminals like pot smokers and garden variety immigrants. We have become a nation afraid of its own shadow.

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Bless 2A
Posted by: Romantic Violence on Apr 24, 2009 6:14 AM   
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I hope all of those will now re-examine the reason why we have a right called the Second Amendment. Many here will not acknowledge that the Second Amendment, protects the people from out of control government; it is already out of control and has been happening for years. This is just one story that was allowed disclosure by the MSM. Before it's all said and done, circumstances like this will FORCE YOU to fight these people or die a very slow and painful death..sooner than you think. This is only the beginning.

FTW

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» RE: Bless 2A Posted by: Zeugitai
» A well regulated militia Posted by: outsideagitator
» RE: A well regulated militia Posted by: Romantic Violence
» RE: Bless 2A Posted by: cactus
Not enough cops?
Posted by: Cory.Goodman on Apr 24, 2009 6:14 AM   
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Try ending the drug war!

Privatization of criminal justice IS the way democracy dies. At least police still operate under the idealistic notion of "to protect and serve". When corporations are more concerned about a bottom line that only grows based on NUMBER of arrests, the philosophy becomes "to punish and enslave"

When "private security" officers get paid more for arresting as many people as possible, to work in the prison farms owned by the very people who own the "security firms", we are in very real and serious danger.

Corporate police state incoming!

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How's that math work?
Posted by: kindmuse on Apr 24, 2009 6:38 AM   
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I don't want to belittle the problem. The way I see it any size of a mercenary force is too big. However...

I can't see how 1,000,000 'dwarfs' 700,000? It's only 300,000 difference? But then in the same paragraph you say the ratio is 5 - 1? Now that would dwarf the number of police officers in the country. But 1,000,000/700,000 isn't a 5 - 1 ratio? For a 5 - 1 ratio to work with 700,000 cops, you would need over 3 million mercenaries. Now that would be cause for concern.

I'm just a little confused over your math. It would be nice if you could work on that a little better to make this article to make it more shocking. :-)

peace

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» RE: How's that math work? Posted by: jeremyscahill
» RE: How's that math work? Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: How's that math work? Posted by: gimmie shelter
» RE: How's that math work? Posted by: YogiBear
» RE: How's that math work? Posted by: Aquinas
Good Article, Great Comments
Posted by: PrinceRobert on Apr 24, 2009 7:47 AM   
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Some confusion about numbers is explained by the fact that most of the private security officers are on corporate property manning gates, signing visitors in, walking patrol looking for fires, illegal entry and other just and proper duties. I supervised a bunch of private client sites like that. All the officers were way underpaid. Most were in the 60-70 year age range, with a lot of physical impairment. All went through a very good state training program to get licensed to be private security officers. NONE patrolled the streets with law enforcement authority. NONE had arrest authority. In a potential arrest situation they had to call law enforcement. In other words they did not replace law enforcement but were were "eyes and ears" or "early warning" as liason between the private individual or corporation who hired them and either law enforcement or other emergency services.
I am just as disturbed as the rest of the commentors on this article about the use or prospective use of private contractors in a full law enforcement capacity. If government agencies have money to hire private contractors, then they have money to put on more police. The history is dismal. Uniformed police are a relatively new thing, only being established in around 1880. Back then it was Pinkerton and, I think, Wackenhut that were hired to do the job and it was all muscle and guns with little attention to the Law. Pinkerton did the work that the FBI does now.
Ultimately, if this situation gets out of hand, I agree with several of the comments above. SHOOT BACK.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on Apr 24, 2009 7:53 AM   
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in Atlanta they have the following private security police Emory univ police, Agnes Scott univ police, VA police and many more.

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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on Apr 24, 2009 8:12 AM   
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Once we allow outside contractors or any contract mercenaries to do community policing we are headed straight for a police state. Katrina was just the opening act for their use. While FEMA and the rest of our government said they could not get in their to help this country's citizens because of the storm and flooding, Blackwater(now XE) and the rest of the thugs carrying machine guns had no problem shooting them and protecting the rich peoples stuff. Was Katrina a dress rehearsal for what is to come? Another thing to consider is the more they out number our police and military the more they have the potential to take this country over.

We already have heard from Homeland Insecurity that they are watching returning Vets so who will they use against them? Our military may be sympathetic to go after their own. This country is really is very scary in how it is positioning it's self against it's citizens. I think they know that they have gone to far in to many ways (Wall Street,False Wars,Katrina,Spying on us,Bush election by the Supreme s just to name a few),to hide their corruption and crimes from unconscious six-pack Joe. Even six-pack Joe now seems to notice ans is stocking up on ammunition. Lets see what Eric Holder does, something tells me it will be far less than it should be and an open message that they are above any law we may have to be forced to follow.

Interesting and sad times.

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» RE: gimmie shelter Posted by: outsideagitator
» RE: gimmie shelter Posted by: gimmie shelter
» We allowed it long ago. Posted by: Beck
» RE: We allowed it long ago. Posted by: gimmie shelter
Pinkertons
Posted by: kogwonton on Apr 24, 2009 8:19 AM   
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Before the creation of the Dept. of Justice, when our Congress needed an investigatory body, they hired private firms. In particular, the Pinkerton company was hired because of their extensive experience in working for the railroads as strike breakers and hunters of train robbers. When the U.S. govt. gave away millions of acres of lands to the railroads, taking that land from the original owners such as native Americans and other settlers, the Pinkertons were hired to see to it that those people vacated those lands. They also were hired to break strikes at coal mines and other industries. They were known for their keeping of dossiers on many so-called 'criminals'.

When the Dept. of Justice was formed, just who do you think the U.S. govt. hired to fill those new government posts?

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» RE: Pinkertons Posted by: Zeugitai
Private Investigators Will Get You.
Posted by: melpol on Apr 24, 2009 9:03 AM   
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The rich and famous rarely depend on public police forces to get results. There is nothing as good as a private investigator. They are not limited by the law and can even commit murder if paid well. It would be suicide to harass a large corporation or wealthy person when there are private investigators available to do anything for a buck. Most are former police officers and still have their connections open. Street wise criminals would rather have ten cops on their tail then one well paid private investigator.

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Eddiedog
Posted by: Hillclimber on Apr 24, 2009 10:00 AM   
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"Armed checkpoint on Charles Street"? Jeremy, there's no Charles Street in New Orleans. Maybe you're thinking about Baltimore.

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» RE: ddiedog Posted by: enolan4208
» THERE IS A CHARLES PLACE, HOWEVER Posted by: Dennis St. John
FASCISM DEFINED
Posted by: Dennis St. John on Apr 24, 2009 10:02 AM   
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A cogent definition of fascism, a term loosely bandied about (such as Obama being a fascist), is the alliance of corporations and the military. In many respects, we're already there (military-industrial complex).

Regarding private security: I have been a prison guard and a private security officer for two different companies. Most security officers are poorly paid and poorly trained. Basically, the company just says here's your uniform and here's your post. These are McJobs: hamburger flippers at McDonalds know as much about the law and citizen's rights as security officers do. Private security companies hire and fire with monotonous regularity; the turnover rate is very, very high. As Scahill has documented, it is far more difficult to hold private security officers responsible than it is to prosecute cops and soldiers. At one place I worked, it was security officers who were committing crimes. When caught, they were simply fired.

Incidentally, private security guards can do some things that cops can't. Police need probable cause to search you, but if you are on private property such as a shopping mall, the security guards can detain you and search you at will. Something to think about.

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» RE: FASCISM DEFINED Posted by: kogwonton
» QUITE TRUE Posted by: Dennis St. John
» RE: FASCISM DEFINED Posted by: spacestevie
Ah, the bush regime, the gift that keeps on giving
Posted by: willymack on Apr 24, 2009 10:06 AM   
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Dumbya's "base", the haves and have mores are becoming less popular with those out of work and out on the streets, with each passing day, and are becoming alarmed that someone may have the temerity to physically harm them or their slaves. Their solution is to hire thugs, at minimun wage, naturally, and NO benefits, future, or hope. How long will it take for some of these "protectors" to decide they need to supplement their incomes through bullying and outright theft? A fine kettle of fish!

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» THE GAFF THAT KEEPS ON GAGGING Posted by: Dennis St. John
This is not good.
Posted by: Dr. P. Mooney on Apr 24, 2009 10:10 AM   
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This is not a good thing. The only people who can afford private guarding and protection are the rich ( who may need it after helping the middle and lower wage income earners lose their jobs ) and corporations. These, "for hire," para-military types will only have one thing in mind and that is to protect, at what ever cost their bosses, regardless whether it infringes upon the rights of everyone else or not.

Just remember Blackwater and the intersection they were protecting in Iraq as their truck caravan was ready to drive through it. They started shooting innocent people and cars that happen to be unfortunate enough to be in that intersection when the Blackwater thugs were shooting at them. This will happen in our own country unless we stop it from happening. The police are going to have to decide just who's side they are on; the rich and corporate types or the rest of the citizens of this country?

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» RE: This is not good. Posted by: gimmie shelter
» THE POLICE, TOO, PROTECT MOSTLY THE RICH Posted by: Dennis St. John
This is a Solution?
Posted by: samd11 on Apr 24, 2009 10:10 AM   
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Such an American response to social problems that need to be dealt with at the grassroots level. Why are there whole neighbourhoods that are so difficult to police? Do you truly believe that hiring private gunslingers will make you safer? How about addressing the real problems of poverty, unemployment, poor education and loss of hope. Private security or more policemen will not solve your increasing social problems.

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» RE: This is a Solution? Posted by: Zeugitai
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» A TWO-FER SOLUTION Posted by: Dennis St. John
The Revolution
Posted by: Robba29 on Apr 24, 2009 10:37 AM   
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Looks like the revolution is indeed coming...but not from where we think it is. One side knows that having an armed and forceful militia (can't call them military) is what will bring the change they desire. The Right knows this and they are willing to deploy it against US citizens. When will the "Left" get a clue? Privatization of all facets of public services is a large step in that take over. As I'm typing this, I'm realizing how conspiracy minded that sounds. So, let me rephrase--the apparatus is being put in place that, SHOULD someone wish to turn it to their own devices, they could. As of now, I doubt there's a unified agenda for such an action. But, we on the left need to go beyond being vigilant, we need to be prepared. Where is our reciprocal apparatus?

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The oldest privatization con on the books
Posted by: sausage on Apr 24, 2009 10:42 AM   
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It looks like the City of Oakland is falling for the oldest privatization con on the books: "You'll save big buck, folks because "...the company, not the city, is responsible for insurance for the guards." Since, according to the above column, the City of Oakland spends $250,000 per police officer per year, by privatizing police protection the good burghers of Oakland will therefore save the munificent sum of $50,000 per annum per mercenary!

Really, now, chicken feed in the overall scheme of things. Don't you think?

How stupid are these people, the Oakland City Council?

How long will this good deal with for cheap mercenary police protection last? Ten years? Five years? As the author Jeremy Scahill has reported numerous times, the incentive for our U.s. taxpayer trained All Volunteer Force killers to go into the mercenary biz is money. Xe (pronounced ZEE) nee Blackwater, Dyncorp, CusterBattles and the rest of the "private military companies" as a rule pay their employees better than had they stayed in service to their country. I mean $500 to $600 per day for greasing sand-n*ggers in Iraq is nothing to sneeze at, especially for the grunt making $20,000 from Uncle Sugar to do the same thing.

I'm also sure whatever mercenary company Oakland contracts with to provide police portection will absorb any profit losses in the short term in order to secure a long term, and much more lucrative, contract in the not too distant future.

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21st century fascism!
Posted by: hbill on Apr 24, 2009 1:12 PM   
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How long would it take for a consolidation of these private police to team up with the tens of thousands of returning mercenaries to establish a domestic force powerful enough to pave the way for either a traditional coup, or state secession (i hear texas is chomping at the bit!),or more probably, a 21st century style fascism. Inverted Totalitarianism is where this is headed (read book: Democracy Inc.). Or, don't worry about a thing, this republic burns, and north america politically becomes the new Africa!!

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think about this...
Posted by: ellie on Apr 24, 2009 2:36 PM   
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not all returning vets from afganistan or iraq are happy about what is going on there... especially guard units which are heavy with MP training...

we have thousands of unhappy vets within the veteran status who are government trained military who also know how to shoot back in urban settings...

think vietnam vets on up to today, how many million??? do you think violent organizations like blackwater and dynacorp will stand for vets who have the same training as their 'security advisers'??? easily this could turn out to be gurilla war tactics against such orgs...

one can only hope this fear of equally trained with assorted owner owned hardware gains the edge and pulls these orgs back to reason...

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» RE: think about this... Posted by: gimmie shelter
How paranoid should I be?
Posted by: kwark on Apr 24, 2009 4:47 PM   
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I'm not sure how paranoid I should be about this -relative to today, how many security guards (of all sorts) were there 5, 10, 20, 30 years ago? And while we're at it, of the 1,000,000 guards out there, how many of them are over 65 years old? How many actually carry a gun? The Security guard down at the local B of A looks like a strong wind might blow him over AND he's unarmed. Not exactly the same threat as some 30 year-old former SEAL with a Glock on his hip.

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Current police forces should answer these questions
Posted by: STUDIP on Apr 24, 2009 7:51 PM   
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Existing police forces are already almost completely unaccountable. Police "oversee" themselves, do everything they can get away with to get out of having to respect Miranda rights, and kill whoever they feel like. The penalty if they do something such as shoot an innocent person in the back? They get a paid vacation while the taxpayers pay for their legal defense (which comes largely in the form of a rigged trial).

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Perspective
Posted by: Daer Mi on Apr 25, 2009 12:23 PM   
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Yes, the trend of hiring mercs to suppliment/replace a police force is very disturbing, and should NOT be happening. However, as a former security officer, I would like to put the 5-to-1 ratio in perspective. Most of these million-plus officers are mall officers, or unarmed security in office buildings, there solely for the purpose of being a deterrent as required by the company's insurance policies. Most of the security officers I have worked with were low-educated men in their fifties or older, or low-educated men and women under 25. Many of them were immigrants or refugees, and none of them really capable of handling any kind of crisis situation. When looking at the number of private security employees vs. the number of police, we need to make a distinction between the elderly man behind the security desk who's only working because he can't afford to retire and who's only real duty is to tell visitors where the bathroom is, and the ex-con with the big guns being let loose in the streets.

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If one beleives in free enterprise..........
Posted by: RickW on Apr 25, 2009 4:01 PM   
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....then one must necessarily believe in privatization -- of everything.

Or is it that "if one believes MOSTLY in free enterprise".......? If so, then who decides what should be public and what should be private? And why............

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Confusion
Posted by: hozho1 on Apr 26, 2009 5:01 AM   
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Can anyone explain why Oakland needs to spend 250,000K per each fireman and cop? Is this accurate? It seems extraordinarily high.

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Corps have been Waging a War against US for Decades
Posted by: Purple Girl on Apr 26, 2009 8:13 AM   
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and those Dumbass Teabaggers Fell for it again.
Reason no one really knows what the hell those Tea Parties were about was because confusion is exactly what they were intended to do.
Was it About Bank Bail outs..then why the Hell weren't they on Wall street with the others who've been protesting. Was is against Taxation without representation- then why the hell weren't they on KStreet? Was it about Gun Control, Then why were they not bitching at the NRA to demand they tone down the rhetoric to calm the sociopaths shooting the place up,Those who really endanger their rights and push the issue to the forefront of the national agenda. Anti Abortion- then go after the Pharms to develope a real male contraceptive.These Woman aren't all getting pregnant through AI.Until the 'Prolifers' put the Testicles on the table, then uterine rights are not up for debate or Gov't control.
Frankly the teabaggers should have been protesting the Neo cons for yankin' their chains for 3 decades.While the right has been worried about their hunting rifles, the gun manufacturers have been arming the criminals. While the Pro-Lifers have been protesting outside abortion clinics, the Corps have enabling the Johnny Apple seeds.While the Right has been bitching about Taxes, the corps have had Record breaking profits by price gouging.What you save in reduced taxes (so text books are antiquated and granny's eating dog food), These Corps see as increased revenues- Don't invest in Schools, buy that Big Screen made from Sweatshops in China instead!
The Teabaggers had no clear defined agenda, because the Corps didn't give them one.It's not Socialism that is infesting our country, It's Corporatism, The Privatization and Profiteering of all aspects of the Duties and responsiblities of our Democratic Governing Body.there is no difference between a Family Crest and a Logo, when it dominates and controls every faucet of public and private life.

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I dunno
Posted by: Jon Bull on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 AM   
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I dunno, why's everybody always crying about beatin black people down. It's been done for centuries. And is kinda fun. Try it before you turn your nose up.

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» gimmie shelter Posted by: gimmie shelter
Bush really won, didn't he?
Posted by: Beck on Apr 29, 2009 6:15 AM   
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He wanted us to be afraid all the time. To see something sinister everywhere we looked. I doubt he could have imagined this much success, however. We're divided, fearful, mistrustful of anyone unlike ourselves, would like to wipe out any opposing political philosophies and make our own reign, and love conspiracies better than calm, personal ideology better than consensus. When the conspiracy of the day revs you up and makes you feel satisfied, it would seem that THAT'S what is controlling you. Not the government or the corporations.

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Further Evidence of the death...
Posted by: bobtr900 on May 4, 2009 5:07 AM   
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...of govt which the Rethugs desire, with the end result being the continuing decay and eventual demise of our democracy, possibly even of the fabric of our society. Further, it begs the question: what will they try to put in it's place.

What exactly do they have in mind for us, as they continue to trash and thrash our culture, our democracy, our entire society. Is it a further extension of their culture of death for profits, their Theo-Fascism which will then lead to the Bush family New World Order.

The NWO is something both Bush41 and Bush43 have talked about on more than one occasion. Me thinks it will come about due to their greedily using up resources for corporate profits, and due to a world of diminishing resources, especially in oil/energy, water and food. Of course, paramount in their minds will be the continuation of their 'profit above all else' agenda, as well as rule by the very few over the many. This would seem to lead to a world in which there will be very little chance for hope due to no chance for upward mobility, and a world of very tight control over our populace and the world populace. Along with this will be that absolutely everything will be allotted and portion controlled, including oil/energy, food, water, education, jobs and medical resources.

We should remember that Scalia in his May, 2000 (semi private) speech called for the END of our Rule of Law AND the END to our American democracy. THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE HEADED!!! Of that, I have no doubt. These Repubs are deadly serious people. And as far as I can tell, they will stop at nothing to ensure their domination of and for business or NWO. Any group of people who will kill our troops and the Iraqi citizens for corporate/oil company profits will stop at nothing to get their way.

Of course Big Religion will have a major role to play. It will be used to control people and to keep employee work ethic alive in the hopes of a better life in the hereafter.

But what about in the here and now. Everyday life in the American Gulag will be tightly regulated by not only Big Religion but also Big Business as well. They will use security companies like Blackwater, owned by Erik Prince, a Catholic(my religion) and others.

Apropos of that last statement, on the Catholic sites I visit, about 70-80% of the posters think as I do, namely, that the Popes(John Paul II and Benedict XVI) have sold their souls as well as the soul of the Church to the Repub party. My pole numbers(70-80%) are not scientific but there are very few who posted differently.

I found it very interesting that seemingly large numbers of other Catholics were fearful of not only the demise of our society but were also very concerned with the demise of the Catholic Church AND the END of what I can only think to call, 'the reasonable Catholic Church'.

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