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Confirmed: Rep. Jane Harman Tried to Kill NSA Wiretapping Story -- May Have Swayed 2004 Election
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The New York Times confirmed late Monday that a top Democratic congresswoman called the paper in 2004 and tried to keep it from publishing an article exposing the Bush Administration’s warrantless wiretapping program -- possibly helping to sway the balance in the 2004 presidential election.
The New York Times exposed the warrantless wiretapping program in 2005, revealing that the National Security Agency had engaged in the interception of thousands of American and foreign calls without a warrant as part of a program intended to disrupt terrorist plots. Upon running the story, they also admitted that they had withheld the article for a year at the urging of Bush Administration officials.
But buried in a Times article published Tuesday is the revelation that the top Democratic congresswoman on the House Intelligence Committee, Jane Harman (D-CA), called the paper’s Washington, D.C. editor in “October or November” of 2004 in an effort to quash the story.
“Bill Keller, the executive editor of The Times, said in a statement Monday that Ms. Harman called Philip Taubman, then the Washington bureau chief of The Times, in October or November of 2004,” the Times writes. “Mr. Keller said she spoke to Mr. Taubman -- apparently at the request of Gen. Michael V. Hayden, then the N.S.A. director -- and urged that The Times not publish the article.”
“She did not speak to me,” Keller said in a statement, “and I don't remember her being a significant factor in my decision.”
In addition, “Shortly before the article was published more than a year later, in December 2005, Mr. Taubman met with a group of Congressional leaders familiar with the eavesdropping program, including Ms. Harman. They all argued that The Times should not publish,” they Times reporters added.
At the time of her calls in 2004, Harman was part of the Gang of 8 — one of eight powerful members of Congress who are briefed on heavily classified intelligence matters. She was the most senior Democrat in the House dealing with intelligence affairs, and was sidelined after the 2006 congressional elections.
“October or November” 2004 would have been the month before, or the month of, respectively, of the election that Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) lost to then-incumbent President George W. Bush.
The paper did not give the exact date of Harman’s call.
Harman’s role in the wiretapping scandal emerged after a story Sunday in Congressional Quarterly, which disclosed that the California Democrat had been caught on an NSA wiretap promising an Israeli agent that she’d lobby to get the charges for two Israeli lobbyists accused of espionage reduced. The Times expanded on the story today.
An “official with access to the transcripts said someone seeking help for the employees of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a prominent pro-Israel lobbying group, was recorded asking Ms. Harman, a longtime supporter of its efforts, to intervene with the Justice Department,” the paper wrote. “She responded, the official recounted, by saying she would have more influence with a White House official she did not identify.
“In return, the caller promised her that a wealthy California donor -- the media mogul Haim Saban -- would threaten to withhold campaign contributions to Representative Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat who was expected to become House speaker after the 2006 election, if she did not select Ms. Harman for the intelligence post,” the paper added.
The full Times story is available here.
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Posted by: rideyourbike11 on Apr 21, 2009 9:55 AM
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Some Democrat she's turned out to be.
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» RE: Harmon-not only that
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» RE: Harmon This would have easily swayed the election for the forces of evil..
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» YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.... AIPAC and all those dual Israeli citizens...and bankers...
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Posted by: kaelieh on Apr 21, 2009 10:38 AM
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The scary thing is, even though America has a clue now, since stuff like this and the torture memos are actually showing up on TV, I bet nothing changes.
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» I agree, it sounded like sarcasm to me and pretty good at that....LOL
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» RE: AIPAC is bad for Israel and bad for America...
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» If those AIPAC officials on trial for treason are convicted than we should demand...
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Posted by: CatDad on Apr 21, 2009 11:17 AM
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The media prior to Steve Colbert's 2006 Gridiron Dinner speech treated Bush in the same way that Pravda treated Brezhnev. They would not have offended our "leader" back then.
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Posted by: channing on Apr 21, 2009 11:17 AM
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From this excerpt Haim Saban is guilty of espionage and/or bribery of elected officials and/or racketeering (RICO), while Jane Harman is guilty of Treason.
Is this a nation of laws or not?
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» No, it isn't
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» RE: This is espionage, No, Bribery Maybe
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» RE: No, this is evidence of espionage, bribery and possible RICO
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» Not anymore, only for the cattle like us, but not the herders like them..
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Posted by: bluebama II on Apr 21, 2009 1:15 PM
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Way toooooo much powerade in their Dixie cups.
I used to trust the Times. No more. The paper of record records what it wishes when it deems it beneficial to record it and if you need to sell an Oil War to make hundreds of billions in oil contracts well call up the Times and order a sychophant. Shine the light on all of it. Perkins, 2004, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man about the CIA/World Bank is an enlightening experience. Let's clean it all up at once, spring cleaning and let the oil rigs fall where they may!
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Posted by: PaulC on Apr 21, 2009 1:46 PM
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I would add that legislators such as Harmon are supposedly public figures. Why can we not really clamp down on these monsters outside of political/legal channels?
Why are these traitors allowed to go about their monstrous, dirty lives without constant expressions of outrage from everyone they meet?
Are they so isolated that they can get away with murder within their social framework, never mind the legal and political corruption?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Jdog on Apr 21, 2009 3:17 PM
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Having said that, I do usually end up voting for the Democratic candidate in most general elections because Democrats are, at the end of the day, the adults in the room. As such, when they act like the Republican children we're trying to keep in line, the act is much worse.
I'd like to see someone organize a serious push for her removal from office or, at the very least, her resounding defeat in the next election.
Democratic leaders need to understand that we care. Otherwise, they'll turn into the same anti-American gang that runs the GOP.
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Posted by: h2oman on Apr 22, 2009 7:09 AM
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1. How many other members of Congress and political activists have been tapped for potential extortion insurance? And under Obama’s FISA version, what is to really prevent continued tapping?
2. Did the press withhold an expose about wiretapping by the Bush administration prior to the 2004 election at Harman’s request?
3. Was Harman made aware of torture when it was being started?
4. Did her AIPAC contact have any power to influence selection of congressional committees or sub-committees and, if so, who could be so influenced?
5. Will Holder's Justice drop the spy charges against the AIPAC operatives and thus rug-sweep the whole episode?
6. How much influence does AIPAC have on Congress AND Obama’s administration?
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Posted by: luzmejor on Apr 22, 2009 6:16 PM
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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Over and over again!
The only thing we citizens can do is mandate strict term limits. We might also consider going back to taping everything that goes on in the Oval Office. Of course, that might lead to their doing their shady business in dark alleys instead.
Maybe if we just forbid lobbyists from doing any of their business in the halls of Congress? They could call their representatives' district office staff and have their messages relayed instead, just like the rest of us do.
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Posted by: rideyourbike11 on Apr 21, 2009 9:55 AM
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Some Democrat she's turned out to be.
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» LIEberman laughs in our face
Posted by: weathered
» RE: Harmon-not only that
Posted by: viewsights
» RE: Harmon This would have easily swayed the election for the forces of evil..
Posted by: TJColatrella
» YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.... AIPAC and all those dual Israeli citizens...and bankers...
Posted by: Prophit
» Ohhhhh you are so right and
Posted by: outsideagitator
» So now I am censored huh? Won't let me put up the link ?
Posted by: Prophit
» Here is another one for ya.........
Posted by: Prophit
» Here is an even better one if that is possible......
Posted by: Prophit
» More evidence the Democrats are Republican-lite.
Posted by: and_abottleofrum
» Nice agenda in your post
Posted by: channing
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Posted by: Llama11 on Apr 21, 2009 10:05 AM
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» RE: Never surprising
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» RE: Never surprising
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» Troll, and a bad one at that.........
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Posted by: kaelieh on Apr 21, 2009 10:38 AM
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The scary thing is, even though America has a clue now, since stuff like this and the torture memos are actually showing up on TV, I bet nothing changes.
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» RE: Wowless.....
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» She's even madder that she got wiretapped and yet she was the biggest....
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Apr 21, 2009 10:40 AM
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» RE: This is nothing but Antisemitic witch hunt
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» RE: This is nothing but Antisemitic witch hunt
Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» I agree, it sounded like sarcasm to me and pretty good at that....LOL
Posted by: Prophit
» RE: AIPAC is bad for Israel and bad for America...
Posted by: TJColatrella
» If those AIPAC officials on trial for treason are convicted than we should demand...
Posted by: Prophit
» Yeah, and have them drop their pants
Posted by: outsideagitator
» Just read that the Justice dept is going to withdraw the charges against AIPAC...
Posted by: Prophit
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Posted by: CatDad on Apr 21, 2009 11:17 AM
Current rating: 3 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The media prior to Steve Colbert's 2006 Gridiron Dinner speech treated Bush in the same way that Pravda treated Brezhnev. They would not have offended our "leader" back then.
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» RE: Don't think so...
Posted by: Jdog
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Posted by: channing on Apr 21, 2009 11:17 AM
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From this excerpt Haim Saban is guilty of espionage and/or bribery of elected officials and/or racketeering (RICO), while Jane Harman is guilty of Treason.
Is this a nation of laws or not?
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» No, it isn't
Posted by: Schnookums
» RE: This is espionage, No, Bribery Maybe
Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: No, this is evidence of espionage, bribery and possible RICO
Posted by: channing
» Not anymore, only for the cattle like us, but not the herders like them..
Posted by: Prophit
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Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Apr 21, 2009 12:13 PM
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» RE: "Counting Bodies Like Sheep" realplayer
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» RE: "Counting Bodies Like Sheep" realplayer
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Posted by: bluebama II on Apr 21, 2009 1:15 PM
Current rating: 3 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Way toooooo much powerade in their Dixie cups.
I used to trust the Times. No more. The paper of record records what it wishes when it deems it beneficial to record it and if you need to sell an Oil War to make hundreds of billions in oil contracts well call up the Times and order a sychophant. Shine the light on all of it. Perkins, 2004, Confessions of an Economic Hit Man about the CIA/World Bank is an enlightening experience. Let's clean it all up at once, spring cleaning and let the oil rigs fall where they may!
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» H.R. 1955 - Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
Posted by: LeftWright
» If you believe the lies of Griffin & Co....
Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: What "lie" EncinoM?
Posted by: channing
» RE: What "lie" EncinoM?
Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: You cannot point to one lie by Griffin but you can tie 911truth to militia?
Posted by: channing
» RE: You cannot point to one lie by Griffin but you can tie 911truth to militia?
Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: You cannot point to one lie by Griffin but you can tie 911truth to militia?
Posted by: channing
» Great Job, Channing!
Posted by: LeftWright
» RE: Great to see you too
Posted by: channing
» RE: You cannot point to one lie by Griffin but you can tie 911truth to militia?
Posted by: EncinoM
» RE: You STILL cannot point to one lie by Griffin but you can tie 911truth to militia?
Posted by: channing
» RE: Thank you Prophit for your persistence
Posted by: channing
» a "despair.com" style graphic: CREDIBILITY (New York Times' lack of)
Posted by: realtruther
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Posted by: PaulC on Apr 21, 2009 1:46 PM
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I would add that legislators such as Harmon are supposedly public figures. Why can we not really clamp down on these monsters outside of political/legal channels?
Why are these traitors allowed to go about their monstrous, dirty lives without constant expressions of outrage from everyone they meet?
Are they so isolated that they can get away with murder within their social framework, never mind the legal and political corruption?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Jdog on Apr 21, 2009 3:17 PM
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Having said that, I do usually end up voting for the Democratic candidate in most general elections because Democrats are, at the end of the day, the adults in the room. As such, when they act like the Republican children we're trying to keep in line, the act is much worse.
I'd like to see someone organize a serious push for her removal from office or, at the very least, her resounding defeat in the next election.
Democratic leaders need to understand that we care. Otherwise, they'll turn into the same anti-American gang that runs the GOP.
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» RE: Harman's guilt is greater than any Republican's
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» Well, good luck, it appears the Justice dept maybe dropping all charges...
Posted by: Prophit
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Posted by: h2oman on Apr 22, 2009 7:09 AM
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1. How many other members of Congress and political activists have been tapped for potential extortion insurance? And under Obama’s FISA version, what is to really prevent continued tapping?
2. Did the press withhold an expose about wiretapping by the Bush administration prior to the 2004 election at Harman’s request?
3. Was Harman made aware of torture when it was being started?
4. Did her AIPAC contact have any power to influence selection of congressional committees or sub-committees and, if so, who could be so influenced?
5. Will Holder's Justice drop the spy charges against the AIPAC operatives and thus rug-sweep the whole episode?
6. How much influence does AIPAC have on Congress AND Obama’s administration?
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» Great questions and we need answers
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Posted by: luzmejor on Apr 22, 2009 6:16 PM
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Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Over and over again!
The only thing we citizens can do is mandate strict term limits. We might also consider going back to taping everything that goes on in the Oval Office. Of course, that might lead to their doing their shady business in dark alleys instead.
Maybe if we just forbid lobbyists from doing any of their business in the halls of Congress? They could call their representatives' district office staff and have their messages relayed instead, just like the rest of us do.
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