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We've Got to Leave This Bankrupt Culture Behind

By Frank Rich, The New York Times. Posted April 13, 2009.


It wasn't just trillions of dollars of wealth that went poof in the bubble. Vital American values have also crumbled and vanished.

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"I am pronouncing the depression over!" declared CNBC's irrepressible Jim Cramer on April 2. The next day the unemployment rate, already at the highest level in 25 years, jumped yet again, but Cramer wasn't thinking about the 663,000 jobs that disappeared in March. He was thinking about the market. Mad money. Fast money. Big money. The Dow, after all, has rallied in the weeks since Timothy Geithner announced his bank bailout 2.0. Par-tay! On Wednesday, Cramer rang the opening bell at the New York Stock Exchange, in celebration of the 1,000th broadcast of his nightly stock-tip jamboree.

Given Cramer's track record on those tips, there's no reason to believe he's right this time. But for the sake of argument, let's say he is. (And let's hope he is.) The question then arises: What, if anything, have we learned from this decade's man-made economic disaster? It wasn't just trillions of dollars of wealth that went poof in the bubble. Certain American values also crumbled and vanished. Making quick killings by reckless gambling in the markets - rather than by investing long-term in new products, innovations, technologies or services that might grow and benefit America and the world - became the holy grail in the upper echelons of finance.

This was not an exact replay of the preceding dot-com bubble. As a veteran of the tech gold rush recently observed to me, in Silicon Valley "the money comes later" and "the thing you make comes first, however whimsical, silly, microscopic, recondite it may be." On Wall Street over the past decade, the money usually came first, last and in between. There was no "thing" being made at all unless you count the slicing and dicing of debt into financial "products," the incomprehensible derivatives that helped bring down the economy, costing some five million Americans their jobs (so far) and countless more their 401(k)'s.

On the same Friday that the Labor Department reported the latest jobless numbers, the White House released (in the evening, after the network news) some other telling figures on the financial disclosure forms of its top officials. From those we learned more about how much the bubble's culture permeated this administration.

We discovered, for instance, that Lawrence Summers, the president's chief economic adviser, made $5.2 million in 2008 from a hedge fund, D. E. Shaw, for a one-day-a-week job. He also earned $2.7 million in speaking fees from the likes of Citigroup and Goldman Sachs. Those institutions are not merely the beneficiaries of taxpayers' bailouts since the crash. They also benefited during the boom from government favors: the Wall Street deregulation that both Summers and Robert Rubin, his mentor and predecessor as Treasury secretary, championed in the Clinton administration. This dynamic duo's innovative gift to their country was banks "too big to fail."

Some spoilsports raise the conflict-of-interest question about Summers: Can he be a fair broker of the bailout when he so recently received lavish compensation from some of its present and, no doubt, future players? This question can be answered only when every transaction in the new "public-private investment plan" to buy the banks' toxic assets is made transparent. We need verification that this deal is not, as the economist Joseph Stiglitz has warned, a Rube Goldberg contraption contrived to facilitate "huge transfers of wealth to the financial markets" from taxpayers.


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Bad Personnel, Bad Results
Posted by: DrBrian on Apr 13, 2009 12:55 AM   
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Obama needs to explain why he chose people like Emanuel, Geithner and Summers, all of whom are in some way implicated in creating this horrific mess, and has kept out people like Krugman, Reich and Sachs, who saw it coming and warned about it.

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» RE: Bad Personnel, Bad Results Posted by: richholland
Billy Talen has a new story
Posted by: greenferret on Apr 13, 2009 2:00 AM   
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Reverend Billy Talen has been offering a human alternative to the money culture for years: a culture based on grassroots democracy and justice, and an economy based on fair trade, communities and sustainability.

Billy Talen will be on Green Party Watch radio on Tuesday, April 14th at 5 pm EST to discuss his Green campaign for mayor of NYC, the ideas behind Reverend Billy and the Church of Life After Shopping, and more. You can listen at Green Party Watch Radio.

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Where's the departure from American values?
Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 13, 2009 3:16 AM   
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There's no question the Republican Revolution let the genie of greed out of the bottle.

But I fail to see any change in our national values.

We're the ones gobbling up the world's resources. We squat on a continent we stole from its rightful owners.

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PAtronizing Twaddle from Rich
Posted by: notabilia on Apr 13, 2009 4:24 AM   
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Has Frank Rich not learned anything from his tenure here on earth? What kind of nonsense is the phrase "vital American values"? Is kindergarten liberalism also not dead?
1. Silicon Valley is not some sort of anti-materialist wonderland. Google, Gates, Jobs, cell-phoners, are as mobbed-up in excess money and environmental and social destruction as any gang of robber barons. Blogs, computers, cell-phones = corporate capitalism in power, the frantic individual as atomized consumer.
2. Barack Obama is a ruse, a dupe, a con artist. He may have started out as some sort of minister-hugging social activist climber, but it was full-on embrace of Tony Rezco, then his corporate masters, all the while flummoxing the easily-led Coke-harmony liberals like Rich.
3. Pundits like this gasbag are allowed to roam freely, never having to answer for any of their specious attempts at moral uplift. His points about Summers are worthwhile, but so what - the academy was flush with arrant corporatism when I was in college, and it has only gotten worse.

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It is a bankrupt culture.
Posted by: LMNOP on Apr 13, 2009 6:04 AM   
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This topic doesn’t get discussed much at all. Good to see this, but misses the main points.

The author didn't actually address leaving this culture. Or begin to probe the extent or importance of the problem.

Of course, the problem isn’t limited to the upper levels like Summers. And it’s not limited to business ethics. The American people from the middle of the shrinking middle class up are ethically bankrupt in every aspect of daily life.

From An American Outrage: Bernie, AIG—and Us by Rosemary and Walter Brasch :

“As homeless children sleep beneath bridges, as millions desperate for work are told to go home and collect a pittance in unemployment, as innocent Iraqis die, as young soldiers return without limbs, as our earth is being destroyed, we sit and yawn through the news, desensitized to the horror. But, sadly, the one thing we react to, the driving impetus to contact our legislators, and the one thing that moves us to outrage, is money.”

And America is also intellectually bankrupt. A buddy wrote yesterday:

“i was just watching a local tv news program which reported a survey of americans found that 79% believe that jesus rose from the dead. 79 f*cking % ... nice. only 10% did not believe. 8% weren't sure. i don't know what the other 3% think .... maybe that he morphed into superman & killed godzilla. and i wonder why i feel alienated from my countrymen. happy easter.”

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Greed and Apathy was spawned in our Universities.
Posted by: Purple Girl on Apr 13, 2009 6:47 AM   
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Let me give you a first hand account of what is being taught in our Univerisities. My 34 yr old Neice has a PhD in economics. She was born to a single mom, and was reliant on soicla service programs to them to get by.
However after yrs of 'Higher education' she states quite freely she is apathetic to the woes of the working class. In her mind, such skills and professions are obsolete- archiac, and only hold US back from moving into the next realm of Brokering such 3rd world Economies. We aren't to produce products- just manage those lowly countries who must resort to such means.She loves globalization not as a means of trading prodcuts, but more from a 'upper management' perspective. Where would a child so cognizant of the heardhsip of the lower working class learn such arrogance and callous- college. she was so indoctrinated with the 'Trickle Down' mantra she could not comprehend that the wealth that was to be 'trickled Down' originated on the backs of the producing Working class- totally escaped her 'logic'. History didn't even shed light on this fallacy- the middle class and US power & wealth grew after industrialization and flourished after Unionization. Hell she even had Great Grandfathers, grandfathers union workers and still sees workers wages as the cause of our inablity to compete. Not acknowledging Unions lifted the American workers wages to the point of having disposable income- to afford college, build a middle class and a global economy (we were buying foreign products too- thus lifting their standards of living)
I don't just blame the Wall Streeters for this Economic meltdown- I blame the professors who taught them this fatally flawed (treasonous) doctrine, in Economics and Business classes.That means people like Krugman too- what was your Cirriculum over the last few decades?How about the Others hanging out in those Ivory Towers?
What's the use of destroying the monster of Wall Street when the mad scientists who created them are still working in the Lab, producing more every graduation.
Unless You have a Guaranteed solution that will Work..I suggest you 'guru's sit down and shut the fuck up too, before the torches and pitchforks come to your Tower.
I take this personally, Your education system produced someone I no longer recognize as the sweet compassionate and thoughtful girl I once knew.You Betrayed and destroyed her and US, with your Treasonous Trickle Down economics!I not sure who infuriates me more- Greenspan et al, or those propagnadaists who brain washed our Kids under the guise of Education.Trickle Down was nothing more tha Feudalism and you fucking knew it!

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» Wealth rather "bubbles up." Posted by: clthompson
» She's in denial Posted by: harpy
Cilfrord Odets -- Awake and fight!
Posted by: citizenjoe on Apr 13, 2009 6:52 AM   
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Clifford Odets drama of the Great Depression, "Awake and Sing!" (1935): "Boychick, wake up! Make your life something good ... Go out and fight so life shouldn't be printed on dollar bills."
But, of course, Odets was a Red and did not mean "don't go to work for Wall St". He meant do away with Wall St. and capitalism or else the dollar remains king as long as it has not collapsed.

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RE: "the thing you make comes first, however whimsical, silly, microscopic, recondite it may be"
Posted by: stellabloo on Apr 13, 2009 7:02 AM   
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That became obvious to me - without the benefit of the Harvard degree - after working for both public and private utilities. In the corporate world, Shareholder Values as monitored by the Board of Directors (all making twice as much as any employee actually doing skilled labour) replace the honest satisfaction of delivering an essential service reliably and affordably.

They lost me at the point in which Quarterly Earnings translated into Stock Dividends leading finally to a Corporate Merger which somehow paid out handsomely to all parties concerned - except the employees - and the hapless consumer - who by this time were being screwed over by the Omnipresent Bottom Line.

But I am reminded of that old joke about ski instructors:
Q. How do you tell a graduate of Harvard?
A. They'll tell you right away.

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Well Frank Rich
Posted by: weathered on Apr 13, 2009 7:27 AM   
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when you have the balls to get up in front of the editors who kept Judy Miller's Lies alive at the Times and you have the elegant titanium balls to ask that diabolic tree fungus Larry Silverstein how he let over 3000 people die in cold blood - some of us will take you seriously.

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» RE: Frank Rich Posted by: Sister_Lauren
The author sounds like he's in TV land or something.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Apr 13, 2009 7:35 AM   
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The bankrupt culture will fade away once America's addiction to the corporate media fades.

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» And there lies the problem. TV addicts. Posted by: superfeduphoosier
THEY WERE GONE DECADES AGO
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Apr 13, 2009 7:39 AM   
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gimme a break.

The 'American Dream', 'American Values' & 'American Interests' had NOTHING TO DO WITH ETHICS for decades now...

in fact, the modifying adjective 'American' is now synonymous with greed, cruelty, rude superiority, narcissism & corruption.

BECAUSE TO GET 'EVERYTHING' Americans have told the World, 'we'll do whatever we want, when we want & how we want & FUCK YOU if you want to be treated like human beings' since WWII.

IN fact, if you ask Mexicans & Blacks & Indians... they'll tell you its been a part of American culture since Americans decided that killing their neighbours to make their point was considered a 'defining moments of American history & culture'

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» RE: THEY WERE GONE DECADES AGO Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin
Poof?
Posted by: Crazy H on Apr 13, 2009 8:08 AM   
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It wasn't just trillions of dollars of wealth that went poof in the bubble.

That's the problem - the wealth never existed in the first place. We fooled ourselves and tricked each other into believing it existed. Then we took loans out to buy the non-existent assets, backed by overly-inflated property. Bundled those bad loans up and sold the bundles...

Among other things, we've got to get back to a reality-based financial system. Obviously the whole home-loan business needs a purge - get back to loaning money to qualified buyers for realistically priced homes.

MHO we need to seriously restructure the stock market as well. Right now, people aren't buying and selling companies, they're buying and selling the stock in a blatant pyramid scheme. They make money by finding a greater fool to buy the stock at a bigger price tomorrow. The "value" is based on rumors rather than anything we can actually touch. Is it any wonder the whole thing imploded?

Fix one: no selling stock an hour after you buy it - you hold it for at least six month. Fix two: better accounting, the stock's value is reported as "value of company" divided by
"number of outstanding shares" period. ("Fully diluted shares"?) It should never reported as the last price someone was willing to pay for a piece of paper - that's funny money.

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» RE: Poof? Posted by: needlefoot
» RE: Poof? Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin
America The Delusional
Posted by: sunlakedude on Apr 13, 2009 8:25 AM   
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If we think that we will be able to go back to running our economy by building endless suburban & exurban sprawl and all the accessories that go along with that, we are only deluding ourselves. You cannot build a sound economy by building and selling houses that cannot be paid for and dreaming up endless financial "products" to make money appear out of thin air. A recent poll showed that the majority of Americans thought that Europre would be better off if it were more like America. So the delusions continue.

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NYT Bankrupt?
Posted by: grindermonkey on Apr 13, 2009 8:34 AM   
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With this quality of writing it is no wonder.

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It was the politicians, central banks and financial authorities that created the entire crises
Posted by: Illuminatus- Enlightend Classic Liberal on Apr 13, 2009 8:44 AM   
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The best book on the crash is as yet only published in Swedish, in July the English version will be available. "“A perfect storm: How the State, the Capital, you and I sunk the world economy."

The author is Johan Norberg, author of "In Defense of Global Capitalism" and the foremost debunker of Naomi Klein's lies and myths in "Disaster Capitalism".

Johan Norberg writes in a Swedish news paper column as follows:


[My translation]

"In my [Johan Norberg] book “A perfect storm: How the State, the Capital, you and I sunk the world economy (Hydra publishers) I explain how consumers, home buyers, banks and mortgage institutions created an unsustainable housing and credit bubble. But the most provocative for left-wing economist Lars Pålsson Syll is that I also show that it was the politicians, central banks and financial authorities that created the entire environment that stimulated most of these aberrations. Let me briefly describe some of the key facts:

1) Monetary policy: To avoid a crisis after the IT bubble and the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 the U.S. Federal Reserve lowered key interest rate from 6.25 to 1.75 percent in 2001, then lowered it further to 1 percent in June 2003 and kept it there for a full year before it began to gently raise it. It was so cheap to borrow, new money poured into the U.S. housing sector, prices doubled in five years.

2) Capital Imports: China and a number of other major emerging economies would not allow the market to control the exchange rates and suppressed domestic consumption by political means. Instead, exported capital on a massive scale to the U.S., that further drove down interest rates and inflated the credit bubble even more.

3) Housing: Even when fighting one another both Republican and Democratic politicians argued that more and more people should own their homes. This was put into effect by a battery of rebates, subsidies, mortgages and diverse guarantees. Both the Clinton and Bush administration tried to ensure to ensure that more and more loans were given to people who the market did not previously regard as creditworthy.

The single most important factor was the huge, government-sponsored mortgage institutions Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In 2004, when the bubble expanded at its worst, the Bush administration mandated that the proportion of loans that should go to low-income earners should be increased from 50 to 56 percent.

4) Housing Bonds: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac launched synthetic mortgage backed securities, which contained elements of several hundred loans, which in its turn were resold to investors. Wall Street banks became increasingly interested in these risky products when credit rating agencies Moody's, Standard & Poor's and Fitch said they were almost risk free.

But these institutions became deceptive to accommodate well paying clients. They could get away with it and still maintain their position because they had been given a monopoly by public regulators - banks was forced to have more capital if they purchased securities that had received poor ratings these institutions and many mutual and pension funds were by regulators banned from buying any at all, so everyone who wanted sell securities had to go to the major credit rating agencies. No matter how badly they misbehaved, they had retained their monopoly."

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"Bankrupt" just doesn't quite cover it!
Posted by: madmax427 on Apr 13, 2009 9:19 AM   
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The "Corporate" or "Wall Street" Lies are bad enough, but the seemingly disconnect from Our Fellow Citizens is, in MHO, even worse.

I have been screaming, (Unheard) for about five years about Union Pacific Railroad's Crimes. I lost My Father to Their Greed in May of 2006. I will lose My home very shortly to it too (in about four more days).

"My" Government backs up U.P. Lies with more lies. The V.A. refuses to send Me the remainder of My Fathers' Medical Records (it will be three years in May, 2009).

My attempts to get help have all but completely failed even though I try to tell People Their Friends, Relatives & Loved Ones are ALSO at risk from this type of travesty!

Isn't it TIME to say "The King (Corporate Greed) is DEAD" instead of "Long live the King"?

http://www.whatsyourlifeworth2.info

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» Screw the VA Posted by: johnwinthrop
Wrong word
Posted by: willymack on Apr 13, 2009 9:48 AM   
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It isn't our "values" that took a hit, it's our ILLUSIONS.
1. The illusion that business tycoons are good people.
2. The illusion that our elected officials have our best interests in mind.
3. The illusion that we're NUMBER ONE, when, in fact, we're far from it.
4. The illusion that an economy based on an ever-expanding population is a GOOD thing.
5. The illusion that the good life consists of a well-paying job, a couple of cars, lots of play pretties, and an endless supply of easy credit.
6. The illusion that the "American Dream" is what's best for us and the rest of the world.
If ANYTHING good comes from our latest self-inflicted woes, it'll be the realization that we've been laboring under many unrealistic, and maybe fatal ILLUSIONS.

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» Economic anti-bias Posted by: Illuminatus- Enlightend Classic Liberal
There is a counternarrative staring us in the face!
Posted by: HumanistRuth on Apr 13, 2009 9:58 AM   
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The obvious counternarrative to 'money is king' is species survival. The world teeters on the downside edge of ecological/civilization catastrophy, with humanity's future endangered. Out-of-control special interests suck the life out of global economic and ecological commons ... and we can't grasp a compelling narrative? Is humanity too dumb to survive?

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A Major Fallacy
Posted by: Zeugitai on Apr 13, 2009 12:51 PM   
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We are the culture and it is us. There can be no fading away of the culture as if it were apart from us. To assert that this is possible is an attempt to evade responsibility.

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Beautiful rant
Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Apr 13, 2009 3:31 PM   
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and I agree, but we are only seeing the deepening of the trend that began long ago, perhaps 20 years ago, and some would say even longer.

The swinging doors between the moneyed "captains of industry" and our government means not only that policy is foisted on us rather than being voted in, but also that research and statistics are faked or omitted, so that everything from environmental catastrophes to disease epidemics in humans are downplayed or played just as the corporatocracy wants things imaged. This is why major party politicians campaign on sound bites and talking points rather than trying to tackle the real facts and figures of poverty, disease, education, health care and opportunity in this country, much less fraud and malfeasance among their own ranks.

Every day I wonder if it's too late for reality and real freedom to make a comeback.

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We can't have everybody a social worker or community organizer
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Apr 13, 2009 3:48 PM   
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Everything the author said has value. But we do need honest people to create new businesses, revitalize old businesses and create jobs, and lots of them, for the kids in school today and tomorrow's generation.

Some of the businesses can be socially useful, for sure, like green energy projects. But people still want to use hotels, buy goodlooking clothes, drive cars(even if efficient) and live in new homes or condos.

We need creative businessmen and women who make and design and market tangible products people want. That is how we will provide a good standard of living for as many as we can, and improve the environment and safety of our products at the same time.

We need fewer govt bureaucrats, investment bankers and hedge fund traders. Harvard and MIT can get the message: send us some engineers and entrepreneurs who can make things we can see and use.

I note that the author didn't mention that we don't need political science majors, political consultants, defense strategists ala Kissinger, and other BS artists that seem to flourish in the Obama and every preceding Presidential Administration. He didn't mention that college graduates can still become carpenters, builders, landscapers and bricklayers.

A little knowledge of ancient Greece and Renaissance Italy isn't bad for a craftsman. Nor would knowledge of pre-Raphealitism, or the work of the great landscape architects of America, like Olmstead.

Do our colleges even teach about the great civilizations of the past? Do they require undergraduates take these courses? Not in many colleges, including the ever arrogant Ivies which the author focused on as though the world revolved around them.

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Another great Richism
Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 13, 2009 4:15 PM   
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Recently someone remarked (Was it you, Frank? It very well could have been) "A bank that is 'too big to fail' is too big to exist".

This excellent piece (They're are all excellent, Frankie) points out an undeniable fact that SO MANY PEOPLE are perfectly content to ignore: To quote Mary Hopkins, "Those were the days my friend. We'd thought they'd never end". Well, guess what? Those days are OVER, baby! Get used to the idea.

During the last thirty years, I often felt like the hapless witness to a train wreck - massive destruction of America's infrastructure right before my very eyes and unable to do a damned thing about it. Those of us who bothered to pat attention knew where this would end. Not only was the engineer drunk, he was coked to the gills,

The "Reagan Counter-revolution" is over - deader than the gipper himself. Get used to the idea.

April 9, 1939

— Tom Degan, Goshen, NY

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If . . .
Posted by: yesman on Apr 13, 2009 10:25 PM   
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. . . we are going to be inspired by Obama's words or his example, he needs to get people like Summers and Geithner out of his administration. Otherwise, it looks like he's all talk, but when the rubber hits the road, he's just Bush Lite (or perhaps Clinton Pt. 2).

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America Can Do Much Better
Posted by: Peacemaker on Apr 14, 2009 2:37 PM   
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America must never go back to the good economic times for the rich few that preceded the current economic crisis. When the economy gets back on an even keel, it must not be "business as usual" at the banks and on Wall Street. If we allow insatiable greed to again take precedence over doing what's right, we will have learned nothing from the mess we created. The ones who suffer the most in any crisis, natural or man-made, are the poor who didn't cause the problems. Is striving to acquire excessive wealth by hook or crook doing something good with your life? Since business cannot adequately and ethically police itself, more oversight and regulation are necessary. How well the poor are faring is a measure of how much good we are doing with our lives.

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ANOTHER OBAMA BALONEY SANDWICH???
Posted by: reelman on Apr 18, 2009 10:05 AM   
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OBAMA BUDGET CUTS…WATCH THIS

Obama gave notice he wants to act quickly…April 18.2009

“In the coming weeks, I will be announcing the elimination of dozens of government programs shown to be wasteful or ineffective,” he said. “In this effort, there will be no sacred cows and no pet projects. All across America, families are making hard choices, and it’s time their government did the same.”

CRAWFISH NOTE: Let’s see, Obama and the socialists have just borrowed a trillion and are pushing a monster Budget that triples the national debt soooo NOW Obama sees its time for some fiscal restraints? NOW?

Those democrats are an amazing species. They grow the gov-meant with megatons of your taxes while sneaking in the vote-buying extras…for decades more was never ever enough. The smart money says cuts will be cosmetic and a tiny percentage of long overdue cuts.

Permit me to suggest the current federal budget be frozen the next two years instead of the traditional annual 4-12% raises, regardless of need or use or efficiency. Then transfer funds around by sensible criteria. No guts for that, huh?

Well, how about defunding NPR, NEA and the DOEd? Use those funds to finish the Border Fence. How about another credible “Grace Commission”? Look that name up. Just for symbolism Congress should refuse any raises the next 2 years…just to show some leadership.
No guts for that, huh?
The IRS has over 114,000 employees. How much would a Flat Tax or Fair Tax save that bloated agency? No guts for that, huh?
How about a federal hiring freeze for the rest of 2009? Total federal employee number frozen. No guts for that, huh?

Brace yourself, chances are we are in for another large baloney sandwich. I want to see percentage numbers, not raw numbers. Probably no guts for that either. Can we expect demonstrations and TV “Specials” on the “incredible suffering due to Draconian Cuts”? If not, what does that tell you? This smoke from a guy who never presented a single Senate spending reform bill, hired serial tax cheats and broke Klinton’s lying record early on. Call me cynical.

http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish

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Hall of Idiots
Posted by: Joe 6 Pak on Apr 18, 2009 1:26 PM   
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Clinton, Summers, Rubin, Castano, Dodd, Frank, Bush, Paulson, Cox, Greenspan, Thain, Fuld ... there's room in the Hall of Idiots for all the clowns who got us into this mess.

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