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How a Green Economy Is an Antidote to Casino Capitalism
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The convergence of a profound economic crisis and the inauguration of Barack Obama as President has created both tremendous challenges and opportunities for progressives in the United States. Two of the overarching economic issues around which progressives will need to struggle are: first, how to build a clean energy economy, creating millions of good jobs in the process; and second, how to create a financial system focused on channeling money toward productive investment as opposed to destabilizing speculation.
In fact, the link between these matters becomes clear once we pose the simple question: how can we pay for the transition to a clean energy economy? Realistically, there is no way to construct a clean energy economy -- driven by solar, wind, and geothermal power and biomass fuels, and operating at dramatically higher levels of energy efficiency -- unless trillions of dollars are channeled into this project over the next 20 years.
Considered on an annual basis, it is reasonable to assume that a green investment program should be in the range of $150 billion per year. This is roughly equal to 1 percent of the United States gross domestic product (GDP) or equal to the current level of our spending on the Iraq war. A green investment program of this size would create about 2.5 million new jobs within the U.S. economy. But as long as Wall Street continues to squander trillions chasing speculative profits and generating financial bubbles -- i.e. variations on the housing market, stock market, and emerging economy bubbles that we experienced just over the past decade alone -- there will not be enough money available to adequately finance a clean energy transformation.
There are only two possible ways to finance a clean energy transition -- public funding, with money coming from either the U.S. or individual states’ treasuries; or private funding, with money coming from private businesses and households. We often think about large-scale economic policy initiatives as necessarily being funded by the federal government. In fact, both public and private sources of funds will be needed to build a clean energy economy. But the key will be to ensure that private funds are channeled into green investments and away from fossil fuels.
Public Funding
With public funding, the two ways to raise funds are through increasing revenues or taking money out of existing government programs. Government borrowing to finance green investments -- i.e. deficit spending -- is a perfectly viable strategy in the short term. Indeed, in the current economic slump, government deficit spending is the most effective approach to inject new spending into the economy, targeted at green investments and jobs. But beyond the short run, government borrowing must be repaid with interest.
This brings us back to the two basic funding sources, increasing revenues or transferring funds from existing programs. Both possibilities should be pursued. But as we will see, it will be difficult to find enough money -- reaching to the $150 billion per year level -- from any combination of public sources. A more realistic figure for public funding may be closer to about $50 billion, i.e. one-third of the total needed.
In terms of increasing revenues, the most widely discussed proposal is the so-called cap-and-trade system that I discussed my last New Labor Forum column. This would set limits on total carbon emissions. Energy companies would receive permits from the government establishing how much fossil fuel energy they could produce. The government can raise money through a cap-and-trade system by selling the permits at an auction. This would enable only those companies paying top dollar to have the legal right to produce oil, natural gas, or coal.
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Posted by: notabilia on Apr 2, 2009 3:05 AM
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» Oh, for Pete's sake, Beck, can you quit being a corporate shill?
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Apr 2, 2009 3:52 AM
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» RE: Oh great ! So everyone else is supposed to stop allowing big corrupt corporations from stifling
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» When someone tells the truth about greenwashing, a corporate shill like Beck stoops in desperately.
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» Re: a corporate shill like Beck stoops in desperately. - This is typical of Beck.
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» So I see the truth is hurting you Beck. That's what you get for putting sellouts into office.
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» RE: Oh great ! So everyone else is supposed to stop allowing big corrupt corporations from stifling
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» RE: Oh great ! So everyone else is supposed to stop allowing big corrupt corporations from stifling
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» Please name us one invention of yours that didn't get you into trouble with the corporate bullies.
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Posted by: arthurjhanks on Apr 2, 2009 6:41 AM
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» Investment will come. First give hemp legalization a chance.
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Posted by: Wayne Etheridge on Apr 2, 2009 8:07 AM
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Another thing worth mentioning is that I often notice that even when great ideas are brought up, some corporate shill or other will jump in and foam like crazy. Perhaps it wouldn't hurt if we could give truly less costly ideas a chance for a change. Our economy is bad enough as it is and the last thing we need are lofty greenwashing ideas such as cap-and-trade that will cost the taxpayer more money than removing the ban on industrial hemp for a change.
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Posted by: PaulK on Apr 2, 2009 8:09 AM
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It's not because such inventions are physically impossible, but because the invention, prototyping and scaling-up process itself has become nearly impossible in the United States. A Hollywood drama about an inventor can no longer be written without a corporate theft plot (e.g. "Medium", "Flash of Genius").
I plead for basic rights for the inventor. We live in a corporate-slanted society where total secrecy is the only right granted to poor inventors. Speak to a potential manufacturer and your invention can be stolen.
I personally am sitting on a lot of what you want and need to stop global warming. I know, that's quite a claim. I'm prolific. The next 1000 inventors will help you too.
President Obama calls for sacrifice. Don't tell me about sacrifice. I've lived dirt cheap for decades, I've put myself through graduate school twice and I've taught myself how to write patents. That's the best possible path for developing good inventors in the U.S. these days. It's a rough road.
I'm now trying to develop certain of the cheaper inventions which consumers will buy. I'm pointedly avoiding the non-consumer inventions, such as 2 cent per kwh solar electricity generation and cheaper, better transit, because there's no free market in America and lots of company thieves. I'm told that many transit inventors take their inventions to the grave. Now I have to face that problem myself.
In my opinion, global warming is entirely, entirely, on the heads of Congress, the President, and the citizens who elect these representatives. So is the bad economy and the deficit. You know the joke about God sending a truck, a boat and a helicopter? Well, which do you want, the truck, the boat, the helicopter, or all three? Or is drowning in a CO2-fueled hurricane your thing that you personally have to do?
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» Thank you Paulk for the details on how corporations are stifling inventors. You have my support.
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Posted by: willymack on Apr 2, 2009 8:41 AM
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Posted by: Benn_Miller on Apr 2, 2009 1:01 PM
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But that assumes that we don't owe money for anything. Yet in the previous paragraph, it has already been acknowledged that we're not only depleted thanks to the bailouts to Wall Street and their freedom to misuse and ask for more, but that in fact we actually owe all this money plus interest to the countries we're borrowing from. In essense, we will be paying more taxes and getting very little in return, deficit spending or otherwise. It will be too easy and tempting for both parties to defund these projects and we'll be back to square one.
"private funding, with money coming from private businesses and households."
If the author had actually taken the time to look at the results of the last two decades, it should have been obvious that private funding guarentees nothing. Mr. Pollin is only going by the flawed "honor code" system. The working class and most small businesses will be too busy paying off their debts to even think of funding this while the greedy giants will be too busy lobbying for more tax cuts and loopholes and paying their lawyers to avoid taxation as much as possible as has been the case for quite a while now.
"government deficit spending is the most effective approach to inject new spending into the economy, targeted at green investments and jobs."
You can't keep injecting money you don't have to begin with. We've been doing this for the past decade and look at the mess we're in.
"setting limits on the production of oil, natural gas, and coal through the cap-and-trade system"
You think government would even consider trying that option? This assumes that government won't be in bed with the oil giants and we all know that isn't bound to happen. They wouldn't dare even try because they know big oil would find replacements right away. No state pol out here in LA even dares utter such an idea lest he or she get voted out. Of course, peak oil may give them the freedom to speak their minds out.
In the end, the author admits to but still runs on the faulty assumption of subsidization. I'll admit that we Louisiana folks get a lot of government subsidization for oil production and I apologize for the massive deficits created by it.
I thank the commenters from this thread who brought up the issues of hemp and removing the corporate barriers and stipulations to independent innovations and inventions. I've noticed some detractors making it look like they were inventing a conspiracy theory but I can tell you from one of my coworker's brother's experience that big corporations are always on the lookout to stifle people's inventions via huge monied bribes and if that doesn't work, the indivual(s) are often taken to court even though the charges may be false, Afraid that they won't be able to afford those expensive lawyers even if they do win, they surrender in fear and the inventions and wonderful thoughts fall into the corporate black hole. The detractors who are trying to deny this truth have no invention to show for their success. As to hemp, I've noticed how most detractors show no proof that hemp will not stimulate green jobs other than taking the president's wrong assumption for it.
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Posted by: waves16 on Apr 4, 2009 8:02 AM
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As well, funding can only boost green investment. Without sustained demand for green products, that investment will just be lost. So, fiscal stimulus packages will greatly helped but only on a temporarily basis. The revenue-neutral strategy above would address the issue and create a growing and continuous demand for green products, which is what we need.
Tags: revenue-neutral solutions for global warming, green economic strategies
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Posted by: hjr2 on Apr 4, 2009 10:00 PM
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The people with heart, honor, and vision all want the same thing, we want the same kind of world. To find our way to that world is our life goal. If the physicists are right, that time and space are curved then half of the future is behind us and much has to be taken from the wisdom of that past. Half of the future is before us and the present is only that passing moment of unity between the two. Invention and innovation are like finding your way through the mountains. You can find the way, You can draw the map, but you cannot make someone take the path.
I work designing the Robotic Construction Model a new way to build a new type of building. We change the way we live by changing the way we build. I have my first patent "the multi-function construction aid" # 6640928 www.uspto.gov. I have an informational web site I've put up to explain a little about what I'm trying to do. www.roboticconstruction.com The ideas we need and are all searching for will not get off the ground if we don't talk about them and write about them and pass them on.
The way we are going now is to nowhere. We need a new way to live, RCM is a way to that new way. An inventor cannot give up enabling information before having a patent or they loose the right to patent.
HJR2
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Posted by: notabilia on Apr 2, 2009 3:05 AM
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Apr 2, 2009 3:52 AM
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» RE: Oh great ! So everyone else is supposed to stop allowing big corrupt corporations from stifling
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» When someone tells the truth about greenwashing, a corporate shill like Beck stoops in desperately.
Posted by: Wayne Etheridge
» Re: a corporate shill like Beck stoops in desperately. - This is typical of Beck.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» So I see the truth is hurting you Beck. That's what you get for putting sellouts into office.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» RE: Oh great ! So everyone else is supposed to stop allowing big corrupt corporations from stifling
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
» RE: Oh great ! So everyone else is supposed to stop allowing big corrupt corporations from stifling
Posted by: Benn_Miller
» RE: Oh great ! So everyone else is supposed to stop allowing big corrupt corporations from stifling
Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
» Please name us one invention of yours that didn't get you into trouble with the corporate bullies.
Posted by: Benn_Miller
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Posted by: arthurjhanks on Apr 2, 2009 6:41 AM
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» Investment will come. First give hemp legalization a chance.
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Posted by: Wayne Etheridge on Apr 2, 2009 8:07 AM
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Another thing worth mentioning is that I often notice that even when great ideas are brought up, some corporate shill or other will jump in and foam like crazy. Perhaps it wouldn't hurt if we could give truly less costly ideas a chance for a change. Our economy is bad enough as it is and the last thing we need are lofty greenwashing ideas such as cap-and-trade that will cost the taxpayer more money than removing the ban on industrial hemp for a change.
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Posted by: PaulK on Apr 2, 2009 8:09 AM
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It's not because such inventions are physically impossible, but because the invention, prototyping and scaling-up process itself has become nearly impossible in the United States. A Hollywood drama about an inventor can no longer be written without a corporate theft plot (e.g. "Medium", "Flash of Genius").
I plead for basic rights for the inventor. We live in a corporate-slanted society where total secrecy is the only right granted to poor inventors. Speak to a potential manufacturer and your invention can be stolen.
I personally am sitting on a lot of what you want and need to stop global warming. I know, that's quite a claim. I'm prolific. The next 1000 inventors will help you too.
President Obama calls for sacrifice. Don't tell me about sacrifice. I've lived dirt cheap for decades, I've put myself through graduate school twice and I've taught myself how to write patents. That's the best possible path for developing good inventors in the U.S. these days. It's a rough road.
I'm now trying to develop certain of the cheaper inventions which consumers will buy. I'm pointedly avoiding the non-consumer inventions, such as 2 cent per kwh solar electricity generation and cheaper, better transit, because there's no free market in America and lots of company thieves. I'm told that many transit inventors take their inventions to the grave. Now I have to face that problem myself.
In my opinion, global warming is entirely, entirely, on the heads of Congress, the President, and the citizens who elect these representatives. So is the bad economy and the deficit. You know the joke about God sending a truck, a boat and a helicopter? Well, which do you want, the truck, the boat, the helicopter, or all three? Or is drowning in a CO2-fueled hurricane your thing that you personally have to do?
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» Thank you Paulk for the details on how corporations are stifling inventors. You have my support.
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Posted by: willymack on Apr 2, 2009 8:41 AM
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Posted by: Benn_Miller on Apr 2, 2009 1:01 PM
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But that assumes that we don't owe money for anything. Yet in the previous paragraph, it has already been acknowledged that we're not only depleted thanks to the bailouts to Wall Street and their freedom to misuse and ask for more, but that in fact we actually owe all this money plus interest to the countries we're borrowing from. In essense, we will be paying more taxes and getting very little in return, deficit spending or otherwise. It will be too easy and tempting for both parties to defund these projects and we'll be back to square one.
"private funding, with money coming from private businesses and households."
If the author had actually taken the time to look at the results of the last two decades, it should have been obvious that private funding guarentees nothing. Mr. Pollin is only going by the flawed "honor code" system. The working class and most small businesses will be too busy paying off their debts to even think of funding this while the greedy giants will be too busy lobbying for more tax cuts and loopholes and paying their lawyers to avoid taxation as much as possible as has been the case for quite a while now.
"government deficit spending is the most effective approach to inject new spending into the economy, targeted at green investments and jobs."
You can't keep injecting money you don't have to begin with. We've been doing this for the past decade and look at the mess we're in.
"setting limits on the production of oil, natural gas, and coal through the cap-and-trade system"
You think government would even consider trying that option? This assumes that government won't be in bed with the oil giants and we all know that isn't bound to happen. They wouldn't dare even try because they know big oil would find replacements right away. No state pol out here in LA even dares utter such an idea lest he or she get voted out. Of course, peak oil may give them the freedom to speak their minds out.
In the end, the author admits to but still runs on the faulty assumption of subsidization. I'll admit that we Louisiana folks get a lot of government subsidization for oil production and I apologize for the massive deficits created by it.
I thank the commenters from this thread who brought up the issues of hemp and removing the corporate barriers and stipulations to independent innovations and inventions. I've noticed some detractors making it look like they were inventing a conspiracy theory but I can tell you from one of my coworker's brother's experience that big corporations are always on the lookout to stifle people's inventions via huge monied bribes and if that doesn't work, the indivual(s) are often taken to court even though the charges may be false, Afraid that they won't be able to afford those expensive lawyers even if they do win, they surrender in fear and the inventions and wonderful thoughts fall into the corporate black hole. The detractors who are trying to deny this truth have no invention to show for their success. As to hemp, I've noticed how most detractors show no proof that hemp will not stimulate green jobs other than taking the president's wrong assumption for it.
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Posted by: waves16 on Apr 4, 2009 8:02 AM
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As well, funding can only boost green investment. Without sustained demand for green products, that investment will just be lost. So, fiscal stimulus packages will greatly helped but only on a temporarily basis. The revenue-neutral strategy above would address the issue and create a growing and continuous demand for green products, which is what we need.
Tags: revenue-neutral solutions for global warming, green economic strategies
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Posted by: hjr2 on Apr 4, 2009 10:00 PM
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The people with heart, honor, and vision all want the same thing, we want the same kind of world. To find our way to that world is our life goal. If the physicists are right, that time and space are curved then half of the future is behind us and much has to be taken from the wisdom of that past. Half of the future is before us and the present is only that passing moment of unity between the two. Invention and innovation are like finding your way through the mountains. You can find the way, You can draw the map, but you cannot make someone take the path.
I work designing the Robotic Construction Model a new way to build a new type of building. We change the way we live by changing the way we build. I have my first patent "the multi-function construction aid" # 6640928 www.uspto.gov. I have an informational web site I've put up to explain a little about what I'm trying to do. www.roboticconstruction.com The ideas we need and are all searching for will not get off the ground if we don't talk about them and write about them and pass them on.
The way we are going now is to nowhere. We need a new way to live, RCM is a way to that new way. An inventor cannot give up enabling information before having a patent or they loose the right to patent.
HJR2
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