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Obama Should Have Taken the the Pot Question Seriously At His Public Townhall

By Paul Armentano, NORML. Posted March 27, 2009.


Since 1965, police have arrested over 20 million Americans for violating marijuana laws. Obama shouldn't laugh at questions about legalizing it.

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Speaking live on Thursday, President Barack Obama pledged “to open up the White House to the American people.”

Well, to some of the American people that is.

As for those tens of millions of you who believe that cannabis should be legally regulated like alcohol — and the tens of thousands of you who voted to make this subject the most popular question in today’s online Presidential Town Hall — well, your voice doesn’t really matter.

Asked this morning whether he “would … support the bill currently going through the California legislation to legalize and tax marijuana, boosting the economy and reducing drug cartel related violence,” the President responded with derision.

“There was one question that was voted on that ranked fairly high and that was whether legalizing marijuana would improve the economy and job creation, and I don’t know what this says about the online audience,” he laughed.

“The answer is no, I don’t think that [is] a good strategy.”

Obama’s cynical rebuff was short-sighted and disrespectful to a large percentage of his supporters. After all, was it not this very same “online audience” that donated heavily to Obama’s Presidential campaign and ultimately carried him to the White House?

Second, as I’ve written previously in The Hill and elsewhere, the overwhelming popularity of the marijuana law reform issue — as manifested in this and in similar forums — illustrates that there is a significant, vocal, and identifiable segment of our society that wants to see an end to America’s archaic and overly punitive marijuana laws.

The Obama administration should be embracing this constituency, not mocking it.

Third, will somebody please ask the President: “What is it that you think is so funny about the subject of marijuana law reform?”

Since 1965, police have arrested over 20 million Americans for violating marijuana laws, yet nearly 90 percent of teenagers say that pot is “very easy” or “fairly easy” to obtain. That’s funny?

According to this very administration, there is an unprecedented level of violence occurring at the Mexico/US border — much of which is allegedly caused by the trafficking of marijuana to the United States by drug cartels. America’s stringent enforcement of pot prohibition, which artificially inflates black market pot prices and ensures that only criminal enterprises will be involved in the production and sale of this commodity, is helping to fuel this violence. Wow, funny stuff!


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Paul Armentano is the senior policy analyst for the NORML Foundation in Washington, DC.

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Paul, you have finally earned my respect
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Mar 27, 2009 2:12 AM   
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This is more like it.

We have to go on the attack. Verbal attack.

Talk about the victims, what the victors in the Drug War DO to those people.

All the things they do to them. It is not only prison rape, but the brainwashing, taking of land, liberty and children. It is really sick.

It is ethnic cleansing. I am glad to see your writing is finally starting to reflect that reality. Thank you.

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unfreeinus
Posted by: losingmyliberties on Mar 27, 2009 3:29 AM   
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That's your man of change, ha ha see him laugh at you. I bet you he will be giving the illegal aliens freedom, as he takes more of yours.

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» RE: unfreeinus Posted by: SHRED
» RE: unfreeinus Posted by: losingmyliberties
our violent president
Posted by: jingles on Mar 27, 2009 7:19 AM   
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Shoveling trillions to failures to solve the 'credit crunch' with the fed's interest rate at 0%. Billions to predatory lenders. Thousands of troops to Afghanistan till the future. And now marijuana reform is a joke, while sending special forces to the border is OK. Vilsack as Ag Secretary. Retention of all Bush policies on prisoners. Years more in Iraq. Rebranding combat troops and the "war on terror". And this is the first two months?
Where's the peace?
Then there are the proposals of Mandatory Student Service and Google applications and sites running the government's data and propaganda, no need for warrants for cell tower records, and the Patriot Act still in effect with an active army brigade inside the continental borders... but Obama, slick talk and all, somehow isn't a violent thug or conspiratorial fascist.

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What a coward.
Posted by: WhatNow? on Mar 27, 2009 8:57 AM   
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This constitutional lawyer approves of unnecessary wars, illegal searches, and the police state. To think, all those years of school and still this puppet does not understand or care about the Bill of Rights.

So Obomber are you going to continue to act as dumb as bush and other nazis on the detriments of prohibition or will you get a little intelligence and bravery and discuss this issue with some sense of sanity?

BTW, how much of a cut does the the CIA give you for the export of opium from Afghanistan?
You could end the war in Afghanistan

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» RE: What a coward. Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
OUTRAGE!!!!!!!
Posted by: dp63 on Mar 27, 2009 9:29 AM   
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I am simply OUTRAGED by Obama's comment! ENRAGED! What the hell is it going to take to get a freaking dialogue in this country? People think this was the work of "trolls"? Really? Does Obama really think that this former conservative voted his butt into office to triple the deficit? Does he really think I voted him in to give billions of dollars to enormous, reckless finacial institutions to pay for their screw-ups and lavish bonuses? Let me be really clear... NO I DID NOT!

I voted this guy in SOLEY on the "outrage" he expressed with the War on Drugs, his promise to reform it, and his promise to leave medical marijuana states alone. Now, he laughs at us and raids another dispensary! Does he think we're just stoned, stupid and helpless? Does he realize just how many people voted his scrawny little butt into office primarily on this single issue? Apparently he does not. He should be reminded.

You know, he could have handled the situation in any number of ways... he could have at least taken the questions seriously, acknowledged that there's an issue and let us know, gently, that this was perhaps not yet the time to address this situation. But noooo, he had to go and LAUGH at us... demean us, and use us as the butt of his jokes! That's ok, no problem, now we know where you really stand, Mr. "President". If this has 10% of the effect on others that it had on me, it should result in a firestorm. It just got me pissed off and ready to fight now.

I'm tired of living in a prison state, and now they're going to be rolling in the military down to our border... bringing a new Irag War to Texas. Yep folks, no one has the balls to say it's our government's policies that's causing the bloodbath in Mexico. Noooo, it's all the stoner's fault. Anderson Cooper, that little weasel, even had the gall to ask a Cartel member in an interview whether American stoner's had blood their hands. Blood on our hands?!? He made the Cartel guy look like he was the victim! WTF?!? This guy is killing, torturing whole families(by his OWN admission), and it's our fault?

I am raging now.... WAKE UP people, let's get out of the shadows and get this thing organized. They are NOT going to take us seriously until we have a REAL political presence. I think this snowball is just starting to roll, folks. They haven't heard the last out of us yet! Thanks PResident Obama, for disclosing your true self. Thanks for nothing... liar.

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» RE: OUTRAGE!!!!!!! Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
Obama takes pot opportunity as seriously as he sees prosecution of Bushies for violating our Laws
Posted by: JohnHKennedy Denver CO on Mar 27, 2009 10:01 AM   
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Obama is running a risk that he will soon be seen as
"no change"
from Bush.

If Obama's "no one is above the law" is to be believed,

Obama must soon Appoint a SPECIAL PROSECUTOR for all Bush officials who violated Our
Federal Laws (including Torture) and our Constitution

Avoiding prosecution of these well known Federal Crimes is an Admission by Obama
that He Supports Immunity for Bush, Cheney and Himself,

proving to all voters that high US officials
are protected from Federal Laws & our US Constitution
by their successors.


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Listen to me talk about this issue further on...
Posted by: parmentano on Mar 27, 2009 10:09 AM   
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Listen to me talk about this issue further on The Jeff Farias radio show here:

http://tinyurl.com/d2ujug

I come in at the top of hour #2.

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i can understand obamas' fear of broaching this subject...
Posted by: Annapurna1 on Mar 27, 2009 11:34 AM   
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as i pointed out in a response to another article...bill clintons' 1993 attempt to decelerate the war on marijuana ended disasterously in the following congressional election...

furthermore..its a sad fact that even in 2009..such action on obamas' part would still be playing into a racist stereotype..and become fodder for all the rush slimebaugh types...

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moldy
Posted by: Bud on Mar 27, 2009 11:59 AM   
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It's no surprise but it's still a slap in the face to be laughed at. I voted for the man thinking that he would at least give the issue fair consideration. That was all I expected but to be made a joke of in front of the rest of the nation is degrading.

It's especially sad when many have lost their jobs, homes, and children over a failed policy that hasn't reduced cannabis use but only supports it's high, black market pricing and continues to fill prisons.

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I know what this says about the online audience... the one you're currently addressing
Posted by: johstewa on Mar 27, 2009 12:12 PM   
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“There was one question that was voted on that ranked fairly high and that was whether legalizing marijuana would improve the economy and job creation, and I don’t know what this says about the online audience,” he laughed.

Because the online audience is only useful for getting elected. the people with brains who use the internet to express themselves and bring about change are a bunch of free-thinking quacks.

politicians would rather focus on the sheep watching cable news who worship glenn beck and keith olbermann

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Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by: hood1 on Mar 27, 2009 12:43 PM   
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Do these DEA agents not work for our leader and holder? Then they should be fired for not following a direct order!! I SAY FIRE EM ALL USE THE MONEY SAVED TO PROVIDE UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE!!


CFHJ

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Obama just needs to be educated...
Posted by: otsider on Mar 27, 2009 12:55 PM   
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He laughed because Pot makes you giggle...if you smoke it... perhaps he was having a giggle remembering the last time he toked... seemed his audience also had fond memories from their days in college.

What is not funny is the industrial uses of the Cannabis plant -- he and later his press secretary mocked the fact that the questions were in the "Green Jobs" section of the Q & A... that is real sign of ignorance on the subject of the Cannabis plant.

Does he not know that the War on Drugs has also claimed industrial Hemp and the US Textile industry as it's victims as well?

As the US Farming Industry struggles to survive, one of the most beneficial plants that we could grow in the US -- Hemp -- is still banned because it is closely related to the smoking type of Cannabis. Farmers in the northern US can see fields of it growing across the border in Canada -- approx. 50,000 acres per year in the short Canadian growing season. Then 70% of the non-psychoactive harvest is sent to the US Market, mostly in the form of nutritional supplements.

In 1943 the US almost instantly grew 350,000 acres of Hemp for the War Effort when fiber supplies from the Philippines were cut off by the Japanese.

With advances in technology, Hemp has also become viable as a Biofuel as well as a superior fiber source for paper and textiles.

Some estimates indicate that up to 1000 gallons of methanol can be produced from a single acre of Hemp in one year. Approx. 5% of the US planted in Hemp would eliminate our need for Foreign Oil and create untold "Green Jobs".

Do some research before you just laugh it off, Mr. Obama... Cannabis is not just for smokin' and taxin'.

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MASS PROTESTS ON THE STREETS OF AMERICA!
Posted by: aahpat on Mar 27, 2009 5:51 PM   
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Obama lied to drug policy reform activists during the campaign to stop them from confronting him and detracting from his campaign. Instead many of the activists believed Obama and became supporters and 'online' activists for Obama. Now he mocks the online activists and belittles them while their issue is among the most supported and voted for issues when HE requested issues and signs of support for issues. Obama LIED!

Last month Obama said that busts at medical marijuana dispensaries would stop. But the day before the town hall meeting there was another bust at a medical marijuana dispensary in San Francisco. Obama LIED!

Obama is just another right-wing Democrat doing what right-wing Democrats do, manipulate and lie to core constituencies in order to keep them down while he at the same time panders to the right-wing oppressors and subverters of American democratic and constitutional values of social justice, civil liberties and human rights.

The ONLY thing that will make American politicians rethink their authoritarian and Jim Crow war on drugs is to get masses of Americans out in the streets in protest against the war on drugs.

Get out in the streets people. Get onto the front pages of news papers with your rage against the Obama drug war political machine. Scream it loud and scream it long:

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

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Obama will need the draft
Posted by: aahpat on Mar 27, 2009 5:57 PM   
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To put troops on the mexican border.

When will people learn that he is a Democrat first and foremost. Democrats screw and use the left while kissing up to the right. They always have and always will.

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

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» RE: Obama will need the draft Posted by: countingdaisies
The topic deserved a better question
Posted by: FreedaLC on Mar 27, 2009 9:30 PM   
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I saw that part of the town hall meeting and I thought he answered it fairly well. He never said that pot shouldn't be legalized. He said that he didn't agree that legalizing it would stimulate the ecomony. Now if the question had been posed like this:

"Would legalizing pot and taxing it help state tax revenues and also wouldn't it help to relieve the state's burden of arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning pot smokers?"

Maybe that question might have been taken more seriously. One could make a case that keeping pot illegal stimulates the economy by creating police jobs and building prisons. Not something I support.

Actually if you check out the Roanoke Times (a conservative paper in southwest Virginia) Reader's Panel there was a serious discussion about legalizing pot to help create tax revenues to support the local budget deficits:
http://cs.roanoke.com/forums/t/422.aspx?PageIndex=2

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» Obama has always parsed Posted by: aahpat
What's so damn funny?
Posted by: aussidawg on Mar 28, 2009 4:33 AM   
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This past week, I came across a person who had just recently completed an eight year prison term for possession and use of marijuana. This man had severe glaucoma. When I asked him if marijuana helped relieve the symptoms of his disease, he entheusaistically said yes, that it was virtually the only medicine that eleviated his symptoms.

Second, I am a chronic pain patient that discussed the problems I have with NSAID pain relievers with my physician. I have bleeding ulcers so NSAIDs are not an option. Acetemenophen (Tylenol causes liver damage when used in heavy doses yet provide no real relief. Therefore, she said that my only realistic option for relief from pain (degenerative disk/joint disease) are the opiate pain relievers, which when used for more than a couple of weeks create a physical dependancy that result in horrible withdrawal symptoms when stopped suddenly, not to mention the legal hurdles one must jump through to get these drugs. Marijuana, which was not even mentioned (I live in Texas, which isn't about to allow marijuana use for medicinal purposes, much less for recreational purposes in spite of the obvious advantages over these other drugs) is a known effective pain reliever, is not physically dependance producing, yet is ignored. Does this come even close to being logical? Of course not. What is the big problem? Are there really that many people who still believe the bulllshit that Harry Anslinger spouted almost a century ago? Apparently, the answer to that question is yes.

Finally, marujuana, when used recreationally is far less damaging to a person's health than either tobacco and alcohol, which both create a physical dependence that also have nasty withdrawal symptoms while marijuana does not.

Until the issue of marijuana is brought out into the open on a large scale to counter the foolish myths surrounding this miracle medicine with scientific evidence, the dogma will continue to prevail over reason.

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» RE: What's so damn funny? Posted by: Towelie
Change Voter Registration - Abandon the Dominance Parties
Posted by: aahpat on Mar 28, 2009 5:25 AM   
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Abandon the Democrats and Republicans. they do not respect or reflect the social justice values of drug policy reform. They do not represent your values and you should not allow them to misrepresent your values by your continuing to be registered Democrat or Republican.

Download voter registration forms and change your registration to Independent, Green or Libertarian . The three groupings that reflect and respect the values and interests of drug policy reform.

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Daily Individual Action Tactics
Posted by: aahpat on Mar 28, 2009 5:28 AM   
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One daily action that reformers can take is to search Google News each day for current news stories on the topics of 'drug war', 'mexican border', 'marijuana', 'medical marijuana' and any other topic that strikes you on any particular day. Then find newspapers with forum threads. Especially papers in your state or region. Go to those thread and argue the issues with people.

Also, write letters to the editor at the papers with stories, opinion columns or editorials about policy.

Make a point to make a reference, (preferably negative), to state legislators and/or members of congress and/or president Obama and/or the two dominance political parties in the letters to the editor and on the forums. Make the politicians feel the pressure.

A letter a day will make the drug war go away.

Take this fight to the cyber streets of America.

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!

NO MORE DRUG WAR!


You can also download voter registration forms and change your registration from Democrat or Republican, the two dominance parties, to Independent, Green or Libertarian. The three groups that respect and reflect the social justice values of drug policy reform.

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You idiots crack me up...
Posted by: AgnosticPriest on Mar 28, 2009 9:46 AM   
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Obama never said he would legalize or decriminalize pot. Just because you voted for him because you think he's a 'progressive', doesn't make him one.

There was only one candidate that actually came out and said he would decriminalize pot: Ron Paul.

So, now that your 'progressive' is in office, deal with it potheads! And if you get busted, enjoy the anal rape in prison!

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obamas silly laugh
Posted by: bb54 on Mar 28, 2009 2:25 PM   
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Obama has a pretty silly attitude in regards to the internet marijuana community.
He should invite some prominent members of this community to the White House to apologize(just as he did for the special olympics) for his stupid laughter and talk seriously about his marijuana politics

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We the People want Cannabis Legalized - Now!
Posted by: FiddleMan on Mar 28, 2009 2:46 PM   
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The questions about Legalization of Cannabis are valid and important questions concerning our nation’s economy and our Constitutional promise of “Freedom”. We the People WANT CANNABIS LEGALIZED and WE KNOW that it will indeed help the economy! Please do not brush off the majority of American citizens with a joke! This is no laughing matter! The U.S. Government’s policy of arresting nearly 1 million of its citizens per year for Cannabis is no laughing matter.

Let me tell you “what this says about our online audience” – It says “Mr. President, We the People demand the restoration of our original freedoms to consume Cannabis! We know Cannabis to be a plant that will solve many of the issues facing this country now, and if you will study real facts you will know this to be true. We the People want the Medicinal Properties of Cannabis, the Economic Boost from Cannabis, the Green Ecological Benefits of Cannabis as well as a Safe Alternative to the horrible and very deadly Alcohol and Cigarettes that are totally legal under U.S law.”

Not all of us can handle hard drugs like - Alcohol (which I hear the U.S. Government can and does drink large quantities of). Yet we are asked - as they take over ¾ of a million of us yearly to jail - “Why don’t you just Drink?” Alcohol is NOT a safe alternative!

Cannabis would be great for the economy and would stop much of the violence in the U.S. and Mexico.

Does this really seem to be a laughing matter?

Please Legalize Cannabis!

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What it says about the "online audience" of legalization proponents is: They are highly motivated,
Posted by: grahamhgreen on Mar 28, 2009 4:42 PM   
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well organized, in the majority, and should be treated with respect, Mr. President.

Quite the opposite of the stereotype of the pot smoker.

Their ideas deserve a coherent, logical counter-argument, not jovial dismissal.

This is a serious matter.

Had ANY OF OUR LAST THREE PRESIDENTS BEEN JAILED FOR THEIR ADMITTED DRUG USE, their lives may have been destroyed, as the lives of so many have been destroyed by our draconian drug laws.

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Obama is really starting to disapoint me
Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin on Mar 29, 2009 12:52 PM   
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I know that its still early in the term and he's the first Black President,and as a Brother man I respect,but c'mom man, your really starting to p*ss me off right now! The War on Drugs IS NOT a laughing matter! My roommate just got kicked off of campus by some fascist cops because he had some weed smoking paraphernalia and a little dime bag, which was ridiculous! Millions of mostly Black men are arrested on trumped drug charges while drunking frat boys who happened to be the sons of police officers and doctors and lawyers who carry kilos of cocaine can get off scot free because they "will contribute to society". The War on Drugs is a racist,classist, and a way to maintain the statuse quo, it is the Red Scare 2.0, it is outdated, it has no place in a modern society in the 21st century.
I still have high hopes for Obama,but didn't he admit to toking weed in one of his memoirs? The fact that he doesn't take drug legalization seriously,but is willing to admit to smoking ganja, shows the man has alot of hypocrisy.

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» RE: Obama is really starting to disapoint me Posted by: theblackgeorgecarlin
fred
Posted by: faroni on Mar 30, 2009 8:42 AM   
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Yet another dummy regarding weed. But we all realize this, and we're all on the same page. The important thing is to complain to people that aren't agreeing with us. I hope that all of you taking the time to post here are also writing to Attorney General Holder, President Obama, and your own senators and congressman. It's easy and VERY IMPORTANT !!!
They won't know if we don't tell 'em.

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Hey Obama, it's funny to you because you got away with it.
Posted by: pyramid on Mar 31, 2009 12:31 PM   
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But what if you hadn't gotten away with your own past drug use? What if, during some or your own youthful indiscretion, you got busted by the cops with some weed or cocaine or even both?

DO YOU THINK YOU'D BE THE PRESIDENT TODAY? Or might you be just another black man with a rap sheet today?

It's not so funny to the millions of people who weren't as lucky as you and did get caught, arrested, tried, and sentenced. It's not funny to the people of Mexico who have a front row seat to the damage prohibition can do. And it's not funny to anyone of the millions of your supporters who realize that prohibition is a failure that is more likely to put their children in prison than protect them from drugs.

So please, stop laughing at us. There is nothing funny about prohibition.

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nothing new
Posted by: Juven on Apr 2, 2009 3:09 PM   
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New boss same as old boss...

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