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The Real AIG Scandal: How the Game Is Rigged at Wall Street's Casino

By Lucy Komisar, AlterNet. Posted March 26, 2009.


Congress has deftly avoided the real story of AIG's collapse, which will make a few million in bonuses seem like peanuts.

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There's nothing like a grandstanding member of Congress to deflect attention from the real issues at hand by throwing a few juicy bones to the masses.

Most legislators at a House Finance subcommittee hearing last week deftly avoided the real story of AIG's collapse. Instead, they homed in on the public relations disaster of hundreds of top AIG officials and staff getting $165 million (later revealed as over $218 million) in bonuses.

The key issue ignored by the congressmen and women was the potential catastrophe represented by as much as $2.7 trillion in AIG derivative contracts and how AIG and the U.S. government are dealing with them. To put that number in context, we've so far provided the company only about $170 billion.

An exception at the hearing was Rep. Joe Donnelly, D-Ind., who declared that "naked credit default swaps" were little more than "gambling ... dreamed up" by Wall Street to create additional profits, and he suggested that instead of being bailed out, "when the casino goes bust, the guys who are gambling close shop."

He noted that if ordinary Indiana citizens acted the same way as the titans of Wall Street had, they'd be in jail. But Donnelly never got to explain what he meant by "naked credit default swaps."

We did learn early at the hearing that the Federal Reserve is in charge of overseeing AIG. The Fed is strongly influenced by some of the same big banks and brokerages that are getting AIG payouts and taxpayer funding.

These same firms have opposed regulating credit default swaps, other derivatives and naked short selling (which are explained below). That should have set the stage for the rest of the questions, not to mention an investigation into where, exactly, all that money that AIG received went.

More Money for AIG

We discovered in passing at the hearing that AIG has $1.6 trillion of derivatives left to "unwind" -- the mess remaining of the AIG derivatives debacle. Nobody asked the basic details of how the other $1.1 trillion was "unwound" or how the rest will be dealt with. And nobody got an answer to the question of how much more in taxpayer money it will take to finish the job, and who will benefit from this unwinding process. Or, since the U.S. government is now in the derivatives business through its financial support of not only AIG but also Citigroup ($300 billion in guarantees), and other financial companies, how much taxpayer money may be required to pay off those other firms' derivatives bets.

Derivatives

Derivatives are financial instruments derived from something else, hence the name. In the lingo of Wall Street, nouns are turned into verbs and verbs beget nouns. If a bank or brokerage firm "securitizes" debt -- for example, turning a bundle of mortgages into financial products -- the resulting securities are derived from those mortgages, thus they are mortgage "derivatives." They can be sliced and diced and sold and, at the insistence of Wall Street powers and their representatives, the derivative transactions are unregulated.

Central to AIG's demise were derivative credit default swaps (CDS), basically insurance on financial deals. Some people bought insurance against their houses burning down. Others made bets on somebody else's house burning down. That's an insurance policy for someone without a house at risk.

The first type of contract should be seen as legitimate. But should U.S. taxpayers, who own nearly 80 percent of AIG, pay off a wager that somebody else's house would burn down in this financial casino Wall Street built out of the ashes of cut-and-burn deregulation?

More importantly: Should they pay off the wager if there are indications that the game may have been rigged in the first place?

Hedging the Bets

Derivatives contracts on stocks can be "hedged" with a short sale.

Short selling is selling a stock that you borrow. The short-seller hopes the price will go down in order to buy the security cheaper and transfer it back to the lender, gaining a profit from the difference in prices from the time the shares were borrowed and the time the shares were returned to the lender.

Naked short selling is selling shares that were never borrowed -- it's selling thin air, or in essence, selling counterfeit securities. Done on a large scale, this pushes down share prices across the board as the artificial supply of shares -- ballooned by those phantom shares -- outweighs demand.

The Securities and Exchange Commission's real effort in stopping naked short selling has been on a par with its interest in investigating Bernie Madoff.


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Lucy Komisar is an investigative journalist who focuses on offshore and financial corruption. Her articles are posted at the Komisar Scoop.

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Excellent Post ... Damning Questions ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 26, 2009 12:54 AM   
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Obama's economic team looks like the biggest coverup squad in history ...

Gary Gensler

Putting the foxes in charge of the hen house ...

Will tax payers ever know the truth?

Perhaps with a lawsuit, maybe Cuomo ... Unlikely with Obama's appointments ...

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AIG should fail.
Posted by: Rolomax on Mar 26, 2009 2:24 AM   
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Let it fail.

It's an insurance company for chrissake.

So what if it invested and maybe helped to cause a price bubble in the things it was insuring.

..Yeah, I may be stretching it a bit..

Anyway, these situations can still be remedied with Regulations in the future.

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» RE: AIG should fail. Posted by: Jonalist
» RE: AIG should fail. Posted by: Rolomax
Interesting stuff
Posted by: and_abottleofrum on Mar 26, 2009 2:26 AM   
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I have been trying to figure out how CDS contracts could be used to perpetrate a deliberate swindle of government funds via AIG. Here are a few thoughts I came up with in the hope other posters could provide input and maybe make things clearer.

What I have written below is of course far simpler than all the ways that financial instruments can be manipulated (like Banks B, C, and D betting on the performance of the debt issued by Bank A, then each trying to manipulate Bank A's performance in a way that leads to payoffs from their counterparties according to the terms of the bet), but frankly trying to fathom all this is giving me a headache.

The buyer of the CDS would have an incentive to initiate a credit event that results in a payoff amounting to more than the sum of the premiums already paid to the seller, just as the buyer of fire insurance would have an incentive (especially if there were little to no oversight) to burn his house down and collect $200,000 from the insurance company after he'd paid only $20,000 in premiums.

Thus if AIG is insuring the default risk on the debts of certain large banks, like Goldman Sachs, then those banks have an incentive to initiate credit events that trigger payment from AIG.

Banks could collude with certain people in AIG to sell them lucrative CDS contracts with the understanding that government bailout money, offered by unwitting officials to protect the financial system by protecting AIG (or offered by Henry Paulson with the understanding this money will go to pay Goldman Sachs, where he was CEO, and certain other banks as though he were working for banks while in government), will then be channeled to the banks as payments in accordance with their CDS contracts.

Or perhaps executives at AIG were not working in collusion with the banks to which they were selling CDS contracts, but those banks intended to trigger credit events that would lead to payment from AIG with the expectation AIG would receive public funds that would then flow to them.

Directing the heat lamp of populist outrage toward AIG would keep the heat off of the banks.

Anyway these are just a few thoughts. I really have no firm idea what's going on with banks and government, or if any collusion is really this sophisticated, other than that they're crooked as hell and the public is on the hook for paying for their crooked dealings.

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» RE: Interesting stuff Posted by: econlaw
Who Deregulated ????
Posted by: Purple Girl on Mar 26, 2009 5:06 AM   
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The only Way americans have to Grill those who instigated or allowed these Orgy Gambling legislation to be passed, is through Our Free 'Press'- Yet not one asshole has yet done their job as th emeans to investigation and reporting of Who caused this Cluster fuck.
Wall Streeters would have been investigated and prosecuted long ago if the Stop gap laws ahd not been removed through such criminal acts as 'The Modernization Act'.
I am sick of hearing those who walked in after the legalization of Economic Treason be hounded, While those Guilty of complicity sit and Demand Anwers. Let's turn the Table on this inquistions and have those in Congress answer some Questions from US!!!
Dumbass Buchman, reading intently the question composed FOR her, dares ask Gietner about Treasury's Powers Under the Constitution- When it was Congress who grants or denies such powers or capabilities. She was essential asking did Congress (or will congress) be breaking Cosntitutional Law- Figure it out yourself - that's why you were Hired by the Voters. Too complicated of a concept to discipher- Then Resign!
I want Greenspan, Paulson, Phil Gramm, Bill Clinton, Barney Frank, John McCain....To every other accomplice over the last 30 yrs to answer- How the Fuck is 'Trickle Down' and 'Degregulation' NOT Economic Treason? Why must the majority, the Average American be subjected to the Whims of those who decide whether or not to allow a Trickle to be granted? How is it Average Americans are constrained from doing as they wish, yet Big Corps and the 'Noble Class' are able to have Such Liberties, esp with Our Money generated from our Blood Sweat & tears? Why is it If I win big at the Casino- I am subject to heavy taxation, and under the watchful eye of 'regualtors' to assure I'm not cheating, and Wall street is Not?
Who Legitimized this Organized Crime Syndicate giving them the Freedoms to Embezzle, launder money and Extort? Who "Made" Bernie Madoff?
It is Those 'Public Servants' who unleased the Beast. Granting it whatever Liberties it desired.
Come On media Do what the Founders intended You to do- Demand answers FOR THE PEOPLE from those who we have Hired.Go after those who undermined our economy through their Public Office- Derelicition of Duty/Oath and Economic Treason.Who didn't see the obvious connection between 'Trickle Down' and Feudalism? Deregulation and Unbridled Greed and corruption? The Old English crown's Family Crests and Corp Logo's?
And Who doesn't see the effect of this Treason of intentionally bringing down the Worlds Superpower and the Devastation to Millions around the World.... A crime against Humanity.
We Were not Just the 'Beacon Of Hope' for humanity, we were a Cornerstone to it's economic survival. Millions depended on US to consume products and provide funds for essential products and services to those who could not do so for themselves.
Theres some 'splaining' to do and it starts with those In DC and on Capitol Hill- past & present.

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» RE: Who Deregulated ???? Posted by: jkfields
No justice will happen
Posted by: floridahank on Mar 26, 2009 6:14 AM   
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With all these powerful people and institutions
involved, don't look for justice to happen.

Tell me, when was the last big corruption
that was totally investigated and many
people went to prison?

Our entire system is corrupt, dishonest,
full of lazy politicians and we need the Founding Fathers to
be resurrected and rewrite all of our laws. I'm certain they had a greater
understanding of proper govenment for
our country.

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I agree generally, but.....
Posted by: bhorgan on Mar 26, 2009 6:21 AM   
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I think that you're off base on naked shorting. That is a red herring thrown in by CEOs, with backing from the political right like Steve Forbes, and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. The Washington Legal Foundation is pushing it as well.

You're right that naked shorting is a bad practice in theory, but it hasn't been proven, and it diverts attention from more serious issues like the behavior of the banks and the other practices you mention.

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» Let's ask the author Posted by: yirrp
God dammit Obama
Posted by: we_need_Abe on Mar 26, 2009 6:26 AM   
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Combine some backbone with your brains Obama and do the right thing. Speak the truth and ask the real questions! My butthole is hurting from all this Wall Street backdoor action!

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FERRETS UNITE
Posted by: jkfields on Mar 26, 2009 7:19 AM   
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This the single best that I have seen to help one wrap their brain around this so that we don't support the wrong liars. Wonderful job,and I am thrilled to discover your site address.

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» RE: Lemmings UNITE Posted by: ratcat
Don't forget China
Posted by: Gaubladt on Mar 26, 2009 8:18 AM   
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China lost 100's of billions of dollars in this mess. I'm surprised that they are not asking for the extradition of the whole gang at AIG for their own peculiar form of "justice". If they do, I think we should hand them all over.
In the mean time, we all need to rattle our congressmens cages and tell them that they should not make uninformed decisions .

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Some Banks
Posted by: danscanlan on Mar 26, 2009 8:57 AM   
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Some banks are too big to live.

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So...
Posted by: daniel1982 on Mar 26, 2009 9:16 AM   
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In addition to all the stated points in the article, I want to make one more. The financial literacy of the general public is abysmal.

Hands up if you use managed mutual funds as the primary investment vehicle in your tax-sheltered retirement account (401K in US, or RRSP in Canada)? If you do, then clearly you just don't care enough about your money to spend a little time to get yourself educated.

With mutual funds, you put your money in, you take on all the risk, and yet the manager gets 1%-3% cut from gambling with your retirement (and historically doesn't even beat the average). Nobody I talked to has a diversified portfolio of bonds, index funds, and ETFs. Very few people can tell what an ETF is, or index fund is, or difference between small-cap, mid-cap, large-cap equities. What about Income Trusts? REITs? DRIP? Very few people even know what a properly diversified portfolio should consist of. Everyone just has the same 'balanced growth mutual fund' that their bank sold them, and pay thousands of dollars over their lifetime in needles fees. Wall Street grows from the collective ignorance of the masses.

It really is sad.

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» RE: So... Posted by: pelican beak
» RE: So... Posted by: bhorgan
double payments?
Posted by: Sutter on Mar 26, 2009 10:30 AM   
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Banks like Goldman Sachs have hedged their investments in toxic assets. Taxpayers recently paid Goldman over 12 billion dollars through the AIG CDS "hedging" contracts, paying the bank at 100%. But the bank still owns those assets (unless they were naked contracts)! Will they be able to sell them back to the taxpayers through the TALF program, effectively getting the taxpayer to pay them twice for the same toxic waste?

Why do taxpayers need to take bad assets off bank balance sheets if the losses have already been covered through hedging contracts?

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Abolish Wall Street
Posted by: oregoncharles on Mar 26, 2009 10:57 AM   
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Isn't it time to figure out how we can get along without all that centralized economic power?

At this point, it's especially obvious that Wall Street is unnecessary because it is the most dysfunctional element of the economy. Local banks, and especially credit unions, are mostly sound and lending, UNLESS they fell for the Wall St. "derivatives" - and that applies to exactly none of the local credit unions you and I deal with.

The giant financial companies are nothing but conspiracies against the public interest - a point that's obvious from basic economic theory. Odd that the professional economists didn't notice that. Markets only function properly when the enterprises in them are relatively small and everybody involved knows what's going on. I trust this reality is now sufficiently obvious? How many times do we have to learn this lesson?

It's possible we actually need national exchanges, although these could be carried out without trading floors that promote mob psychology. We don't need national banks or brokerages: they're just monopolies in the making.

Of course, we can't expect this kind of thinking from the banksters in charge of the Obama administration. How WOULD we get some new thinking on this issue?

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» RE: Abolish Wall Street Posted by: yesman
800 Square Foot bungalow
Posted by: lulugeez on Mar 26, 2009 10:59 AM   
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At the bottom of that $60 trillion derivative pyramid is an 800 sqft bungalow in Inkster, Michigan.

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» RE: 800 Square Foot bungalow Posted by: lulugeez
Need Help: AIG worker resigns over bonus scandal
Posted by: RR#1 on Mar 26, 2009 11:46 AM   
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This fella says that he agreed to work for a dollar a year if he were allowed to keep his bonus after winding down his portfolio. My understanding was that these contracts were written before the crash and that was the reason we had to pay them. Now, Campbell Brown and the NYTimes has published his letter saying how unfair all of this is.
To begin, as mentioned Barney Frank held up those retention contracts in one of the hearings and pointed out that they were not legal as they were an abdication of the worker's obligation to perform his/her duties to protect the fiduciary interests of the stockholders which they did not so ipso facto, they should be considered null and void. Secondly, how could this person have a contract to stay on for a dollar a year to work through the winding down process if the contracts were written before the crash. And lastly why would we not know that people were working for a dollar a year-why would AIG pass up letting this Public Relations bonanaza which is what it would have been if true be known to the public and the congress? The only person I ever heard of working for a dollar is Liddy. None of this bears any resemblence to the facts as we know them. I am totally pissed with Campbell Brown at CNN for coming forward with this story and not asking these questions.
As to the essay on the credit default swaps. Yes making bets that something is going to fail and insuring against that failure in these cases is rip for manipulation and outright fraud. All of this needs to be investigated it is just to big a scam and Bernake on his own put 2 trillion dollars into the money market totally on his own without congressional approval because he has a right to do so. This activity is supposedly for activity outside of the tarp program and part of their what does he call it, bargain window or something, just part of their everyday lending. No one will no who got that either or if the taxpayer will end up eating any of those loans. What we have now is a situation where people can probably create a hedge against AIG successfully winding down and going bankrupt and then having the taxpayers pay for it. As cloudy as my thinking is at the moment I don't doubt that this is going on right now-if past practice is any indicator.

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Okay, I think I finally GOT IT!
Posted by: weslen1 on Mar 26, 2009 12:08 PM   
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The reason why the bonuses HAD to be paid, IMO, is that those who got the biggest bonuses are the ones who know where the REST of the money, THAT MONEY NOT ACCOUNTED FOR SO FAR, IS and they are the ONLY ones who know how to GET IT. Think of a hacker. He may be next door, but by the time his signal is routed around the world 25 times and finally into your system, he may never be found.
All the money, TRILLIONS of dollars that are not being talked about, like the 64 billion unaccounted for in the Madoff rip off, are out there with 25 or 2500 layers of cover keeping them out of the sight of "regulators" or "auditors" or "congressional hearings" and only the top few know all those layers.
That's why they are "indispensable" and have to be honored.

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Government/Church of the Shadows
Posted by: willymack on Mar 26, 2009 12:24 PM   
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Where do I go to worship the almighty power of the Shadow gods? Where can I go to prostrate myself before their omnipotence? How can I debase myself as an acknowlegement of their complete power over my life? Apparently all I and most other people have to do is NOTHING. The rest will take care of itself as it always has. The Shadow gods have plans for all of us, and all we have to do is hand everything we, our children, our childrens' children, ad infinitum have in the way of worldly goods our ability to think and act for ourselves, and our dignity over to them, forever and ever, amen.

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BenL
Posted by: BenL8 on Mar 26, 2009 4:19 PM   
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Between 2001 - 2007 the U.S. national debt load -- consumer, government and corporate -- grew from $27 trillion to $49 trillion, a $22 trillion or 81% increase. Of the $22 trillion, $18 was debt of financial corporations. This increase followed the passage of the Future and Commodities Trading part of the 2000 federal budget, thanks to Senator Phil Gram and his wife, who went on to sit on the board of Enron, and then signed by Clinton. I learned that from Terry Gross's Fresh Air interview of 3.25.09 with Frank Partnoy. The Flow of Funds data comes from Jack Rasmus article at Z magazine, "Epic Recession Revisited", also at KyklosProductions.com. He draws the data from Flow of Funds report of the Federal Reserve. The point, most of the $18 trillion are credit default swaps, I think. If AIG has $2 trillion there is still more "junk" out there for taxpayers to bailout. I heard that even the Cato Institute believes these are non-contractual obligations, that is bets, gambling, and bankruptcy laws do not compel anyone to pay them out, least of all the U.S. taxpayer. The best solution is to nationalize, cut up the bankrupt firms and re-regulate the whole business. I think that the inequality generated since Reaganomics generated out-sized profits for the top 1% who had to play and gamble with their money because they have no purpose in life but to accumulate, something like the pack rats that have to amass more and more stuff compulsively. The fact that about 16 million people are going to lose employment and more postpone retirement means very little to them. Hence the blast of outrage that will come.

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FASCISM 101 –> (AMERIKAN STYLE)
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Mar 26, 2009 4:50 PM   
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"A Market Ripe for Fraud and Manipulation"

Very funny.

This is a not a "market " let alone free "market " capitalism which DOES NOT EXIST and cannot exist under monopoly Fascism - the true parasite ruling system that rigs the west. A "market " would have informed buyers and sellers without tampering and rigging and derivatives promotion by a private Ponzi trap "Federal Reserve" Corp (not federal, no reserves) that incited the meltdown every step of the way under Allan "Bubbles" Greenspan and Bernanke.

Try this:

Fascist rule designed for fraud, and extortion by parasite Organized Corporate Crime (i.e. Fascism).

$13 TRILLION dollars has already been set aside for "Wall Street Bailouts" against derivatives "losses" (that means profits already taken by Wall Street) that amount to over $700 TRILLION dollars. An amount 10 times greater than all assets and all GDP on the planaet.

Question: When does "too Big to Fail" mean freeload extortion Fascist rule over the gullible?

Mussolini coined it under his regime as the F-word at a merger of corporate and state power with corporate power in command.

"Why should we pay anything for the casino gambling debt? If there were illegal profits made on derivatives transactions that created sham shares sold into the marketplace, we should claw back that money, which could amount to a lot more than the bonuses paid to AIG officials. "

This is a red herring question. (Limited Hangout)

The real question is: why should we have an economy (and therefore government) controlled by parasite oligarch Fascists? The start of a solution would be to "claw back" the “Federal Reserve” Corp owned by private banks and get back to honest money and an honest democratic government. In the end, nobody that isn’t quite literally a status quo sellout or stunningly naïve could mistake the government we live under as “democratic”.

Final caveat: under a real free market democracy no corporation or combination of oligarch forces could be allowed to have anything near a monopoly control over the public or the economy and therefore the government. (No lobbying, etc.). The elimination of monopoly parasite control is by far the most important role of “mixed system” social government public regulation. One that is mandatory for honest government let alone democracy.

WHAT RULES:

Fascism
any movement, tendency, or ideology that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism
Encarta® World English Dictionary ©

Oligarchy
a small group of people who together govern a nation or control an organization, often for their own purposes
Encarta® World English Dictionary ©

WHAT SHOULD RULE:
(and pretends to)

Democracy
the free and equal right of every person to participate in a system of government, often practiced by electing representatives of the people by the people (republic)
Encarta® World English Dictionary ©

Capitalism
an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and distribution of goods, characterized by a free competitive market and motivation by profit (free market democracy required)
Encarta® World English Dictionary ©

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Tammy Faye Bakker Reforms
Posted by: DrBrian on Mar 26, 2009 7:26 PM   
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To soothe the justifiable public outrage over our--and our children's and grandchildren's--tax dollars being used to indemnify a bunch of greed-crazed, congressionally protected, brazen swindlers, Obama et al. will offer us Tammy Faye Bakker reforms: they'll slap a thick layer of opacity over the ugliness while the object of their improvements boohoos histrionically and predicts the end of the world if relief doesn't come.

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Trillions!
Posted by: om7buss on Mar 26, 2009 9:25 PM   
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They are transfering our trillions of hard earned money from our 401k, investments and savings to europe and israel, for their banks overthere. they are cleaning up our treasury, with that Gain-nerd thieve as a secretary, bernanke and paulson behind them....?...www.henrybook.com

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$1.14 QUADRILLION USD worth of worldwide derivatives
Posted by: Alex Hidell on Mar 26, 2009 10:42 PM   
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Steve Pizzo's article "Follow The Numbers" shows world derivatives at $1.14 quadrillion USD:

"Here's the breakdown, according to the International Bank of Settlements, which acts as banker for the world's central banks:

1) Listed credit derivatives stood at USD 548 trillion;
2. The Over-The-Counter (OTC) derivatives stood in notional or face value at USD 596 trillion "

This phony 'debt' must be written off at the G-20 summit meeting April 2nd or we will see the greatest wealth transfer to the already wealthiest that the world has ever seen.

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Posted by: mnstra on Mar 27, 2009 10:06 AM   
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Yes

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casino
Posted by: om7buss on Apr 2, 2009 4:20 PM   
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'Goverment is essentially the negation of liberty'..www.mises.org

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