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Is This Last Gasp for the Israel Lobby and the Neocons?

By Robert Dreyfuss, Tomdispatch.com. Posted March 16, 2009.


After sinking intel chief Chas Freeman, pro-Israel hardliners are celebrating. But they may have overplayed their hand on this round.

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Is the Israel lobby in Washington an all-powerful force? Or is it, perhaps, running scared?

Judging by the outcome of the Charles W. ("Chas") Freeman affair this week, it might seem as if the Israeli lobby is fearsome indeed. Seen more broadly, however, the controversy over Freeman could be the Israel lobby's Waterloo.

Let's recap. On February 19th, Laura Rozen reported at ForeignPolicy.com that Freeman had been selected by Admiral Dennis Blair, the director of national intelligence, to serve in a key post as chairman of the National Intelligence Council (NIC). The NIC, the official in-house think tank of the intelligence community, takes input from 16 intelligence agencies and produces what are called "national intelligence estimates" on crucial topics of the day as guidance for Washington policymakers. For that job, Freeman boasted a stellar resumé: fluent in Mandarin Chinese, widely experienced in Latin America, Asia, and Africa, a former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the first Gulf War, and an ex-assistant secretary of defense during the Reagan administration.

A wry, outspoken iconoclast, Freeman had, however, crossed one of Washington's red lines by virtue of his strong criticism of the U.S.-Israeli relationship. Over the years, he had, in fact, honed a critique of Israel that was both eloquent and powerful. Hours after the Foreign Policy story was posted, Steve Rosen, a former official of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), launched what would soon become a veritable barrage of criticism of Freeman on his right-wing blog.

Rosen himself has already been indicted by the Department of Justice in an espionage scandal over the transfer of classified information to outside parties involving a colleague at AIPAC, a former official in Donald Rumsfeld's Pentagon, and an official at the Israeli embassy. His blog, Obama Mideast Monitor, is hosted by the Middle East Forum website run by Daniel Pipes, a hard-core, pro-Israeli rightist, whose Middle East Quarterly is, in turn, edited by Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute. Over approximately two weeks, Rosen would post 19 pieces on the Freeman story.

The essence of Rosen's criticism centered on the former ambassador's strongly worded critique of Israel. (That was no secret. Freeman had repeatedly denounced many of Israel's policies and Washington's too-close relationship with Jerusalem. "The brutal oppression of the Palestinians by the Israeli occupation shows no sign of ending," said Freeman in 2007. "American identification with Israel has become total.") But Rosen, and those who followed his lead, broadened their attacks to make unfounded or exaggerated claims, taking quotes and emails out of context, and accusing Freeman of being a pro-Arab "lobbyist," of being too closely identified with Saudi Arabia, and of being cavalier about China's treatment of dissidents. They tried to paint the sober, conservative former U.S. official as a wild-eyed radical, an anti-Semite, and a pawn of the Saudi king.

From Rosen's blog, the anti-Freeman vitriol spread to other right-wing, Zionist, and neoconservative blogs, then to the websites of neocons mouthpieces like the New Republic, Commentary, National Review, and the Weekly Standard, which referred to Freeman as a "Saudi puppet." From there, it would spread to the Atlantic and then to the op-ed pages of the Wall Street Journal, where Gabriel Schoenfeld called Freeman a "China-coddling Israel basher," and the Washington Post, where Jonathan Chait of the New Republic labeled Freeman a "fanatic."

Before long, staunch partisans for Israel on Capitol Hill were getting into the act. These would, in the end, include Representative Steve Israel and Senator Charles Schumer, both New York Democrats; a group of Republican House members led by John Boehner of Ohio, the minority leader, and Eric Cantor of Virginia, the Republican Whip; seven Republican members of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; and, finally, Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, who engaged in a sharp exchange with Admiral Blair about Freeman at a Senate hearing.


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Robert Dreyfuss is the author of "Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam" (Henry Holt/Metropolitan Books).

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Ultimately....
Posted by: Nebris on Mar 16, 2009 1:21 AM   
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...Israel is doomed anyway. It is only a matter of time before the Arabs destroy it, though the Israelis will probably have the cold comfort of taking millions of Arabs with them.

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» RE: Ultimately. Posted by: Rolomax
» RE: 200 nukes Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: WWIII Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: Ultimately.... Posted by: tim_s_eb@yahoo.com
» RE: Ultimately.... Posted by: login@bugmenot.com
» RE: Ultimately.... Posted by: iris89
Israel would much rather be hated
Posted by: weathered on Mar 16, 2009 1:51 AM   
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then respected, that's sick.

The fact that they have so shamelessly betrayed America's kindness and genrosity, speaks volumes.

When American Jews come out and confront the remarkable arrogance and brazen deceit that is political Israel, violence may be averted.

It Never had to get like this, nice job Israel, you must be proud?

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Here is the respect that Israels shows the US:
Posted by: saadasim on Mar 16, 2009 2:21 AM   
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Here is the respect that Israels shows the US:

Israeli Espionage Against the US
http://www.counterpunch.org/husseini08302004.html

How Much Power Does Israel Have Over the US?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkdQbhB7Ckk

Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m51780

If this is way Israel does to friends, well no wonder Gazans are pissed!

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We Play Hardball in the Good Old US of A
Posted by: jbpazz on Mar 16, 2009 2:24 AM   
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If you can stand it, watch FOX 2.5 hours on Saturday morning as the rascals eviscerated Obama and his recovery strategy. One can scoff at their lies and meaningless bluster, but they help Republicans delay and belittle the Democrat agenda.
Since 1905 when the Jewish 'greenhorns' swallowed the American Dream ideals in great hunks, they have been feeding it back to the natives on radio, TV and especially in the movies. AIPAC is a part of that tradition except they are a shill for Israel.
In America one plays hard ball, or he becomes second base.

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No forgiveness
Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 16, 2009 2:44 AM   
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It remains to be seen whether America can even survive the right-wing coup it just suffered through.

There can be no Forgiving the Neocons.

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» RE: No forgiveness Posted by: weathered
» RE: Coup???? Posted by: oregoncharles
No
Posted by: notrab68 on Mar 16, 2009 3:14 AM   
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No, as usual, you're all a bunch of ignorant citizens commenting on things you know nothing about.

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» RE: No Posted by: Frustrated Farmer
» RE: No Posted by: masthead
» RE: No Posted by: patfr
» RE: No kidding Posted by: americansheep
» At least we are citizens Posted by: leafsong1
New Israel
Posted by: hiwaycruzer on Mar 16, 2009 4:09 AM   
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Just as the early settlers named the American wilderness they conquered New England, so will Israel rename its conquest, formerly known as America, New Israel.
If AIPAC has the final say on presidential appointments, if our leaders are to be vetted and selected by a hostile foreign nation, then we are a de facto conquered satellite of that country... Done without firing a shot!

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» RE: New Israel Posted by: patfr
» RE: New Israel Posted by: Sister_Lauren
Killing all in the name of a Scratch of Dirt.
Posted by: Purple Girl on Mar 16, 2009 4:55 AM   
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We have been propping up this little Scratch of Dirt for 60 yrs- If they can't handle defending themselves then they are Not a Independent nation- they are a Welfare State being fed by US.Far less capable of claiming Soverignty than Iraq.After 6 yrs they are asking US to leave, but after 60 the Isrealis still need US to be their Guardian protectors- sending funds and rattling sabers to cover their asses.
Isreal's Gov't is like the Dumbass Drunk who picks a fight in t Biker bar than expects his buddy to do all the fighting- Screw you it's time you got a peice of Humble Pie.
Stop Backing Up isreal and see how fast they come to the realization a two state Peaceful solution Works for them too.
I have nothing against the Isreali People, they are just as much victims as we have been for the last 8..30 yrs. Just as much as those in Gaza or Iran.
And what is all the fighting for....Brick & Mortar, nothing else. No Resources. It's a fucking dirt pile. And who's doing all the Fighting, those who claim to be 'warriors of God'...Kind missed those 'golden Rules' ah? or is it you Don't really hold those in Reverence as Commandments? Then Who do you Really Serve?
What pray Tell is the difference between killing in the name of a 'scared golden cow' and Killing for a Temple, a Wall or a Church? Absolutely NOTHING!Heres a little Logic for All the so called 'Faithful'...If God choose to reveal himself in the Form of a man, is that not just a Fleshy container- But still not "God". So is it not heretical to Worship and kill for the Container when the Entity inside Commands you not to act in such ways. if a Genie Lives in a Bottle - isn't it the Genie inside Who grants the Wishes and Not the Bottle?So Jesus and Mohammad were nothing more than 'bottles', not the actual 'Almighty'. And as for that Wall, It's the remaining Structure built by another Mere Mortal. Thats' Worth killing for? You are willing to commit a mortal sin to save a stack of Rubbled Rocks?
In fact the reverence by which you name the Region the 'Holy land' is Blasphemous. The entire World, the Cosmos are the 'Holy Land'. You spend more time fighting over Where the Bottles Landed, Instead of the Great Creation all around Us! Of Course if God had chosen to come down in human form to address the masses- he'd go for the most populated area on earth- the 'heart' of civilization! it's Not Holy, Just convenient.
These 'Religions' are some seriously Twisted Shit!!

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» Israel has the FULL RIGHT to exist Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars
Nah, Israel will keep winning as it can count on the two sellout parties in Washington.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Mar 16, 2009 5:04 AM   
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Yep, just like giving the working class the middle finger while at the same time spoonfeeding the elitist class, these same two parties will just give those poor defenseless Palestinians the middle finger while simultaneously spoonfeeding the zionists running Israel. There are a lot of Israelis who are trying to help the Palestinians out but they have to be watchful of the zionists who would soon label them as "pro-terrorists" and persecute them as well. Then again, this is the same US that supports the Taliban, Osama bin Laden, Al Quaida, ISI, etc ... and with both parties hell bent on keeping the CIA not only intact but strengthening that biggest terrorist organization against the American people, the Israel lobby and the neocons can be rest assured that they win and you LOSE ! :(

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AIPAC, Israel, the Israel Lobby has gone too far.
Posted by: somethingwronghere on Mar 16, 2009 5:08 AM   
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Frankly we don't need a Federal Reserve, a North American Union, a Global Government or anything else that....

The Israel Lobby or its Globalists want to foist upon us!

This stuff is immature and retarded, all this witchcraft and nonsense.

Israel and the Globalists need to shut up, we need to cut off ALL FOREIGN AID to their weapons manufacturers & let them resolve this on their own.

With some PRESSURE to make sure they follow the road-map to peace.

Enough of this, people are rioting to get rid of this nonsense and go into revolution mode.


President Obama, do not listen to them just do the right thing and close down the obviously harmful special relationship.

Time for a reality check!!!!!!

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» RE: Israel, a cure Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: May I say you told us so? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: May I say you told us so? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
The final push
Posted by: dadanbetty on Mar 16, 2009 5:13 AM   
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Our incoming personal emails have basically come to a stop....really wierd

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» RE: The final push Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: The final push Posted by: rinthy
janet marsh
Posted by: kennybent on Mar 16, 2009 5:40 AM   
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Israel will never be satisfied until all Palestinians in Palestine are dead. So says their previous rulers.
They want Gaza, period. There is a large cache of natural gas just off
the beach of Gaza and the Israelis cannot get to it until Gaza is destroyed. So much for no resources.
One should know the barbarity of the Israelis just by what they perpetrated on Gaza last month. My God in Heaven, how can anyone
justify these barbaric acts??? They used a new weapon that the US taxpayers sent them to use and experiment with. Can you imagine the stink and howl our government would raise if an Iraqi or Palestinian
used such a weapon on and Israeli or American? Did you see that one charred baby with no legs or arms? I did and it made me want to puke.

I have said it one thousand times or more, those so called jews in Israel are not jews. They are Khazars from Russia and Outer Mongolia. Please do your reasearch. We do not owe these imposters anything except our contempt for the barbaric acts that the impose on the Palestinians and the impositions of the American Zionists that are ruling and ruining this Country of America. This is all done with the
grateful permission of our traitorous politicians that have been sucking on the Zionist Money Tit for more years than I want to remember.

America wake up to what is going on amongst you and demand that our tax money stay here in America.

New information. Obama is going to send troops to Mexico. Not for the War on Drugs as they say, but, to invade the way we did many years ago. The drug was is just a false flag. Forget now who was President, but, I think it was in the 1800's. Do some research on your own. jmarsh

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Israel - another nation of blood and race
Posted by: TimothyL on Mar 16, 2009 6:10 AM   
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Re the author's closing note on the ominous direction Israel has taken with the Netanyahu- Lieberman government:
Elmer Berger in "The Jewish Dilemma" [pub. 1945 by The Devin-Adair Company], quotes Lessing Rosenwald, the then-president of the American Council for Judaism, who wrote in 1944 of his discomfort with the Zionist ideal of nationality based on blood and race, which Rosenwald characterized with 1944 Holocaust-era clarity as "the -- the Hitlerian concept" of nationality.

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You know you live in a failed state when indicted traitors
Posted by: MeyravLevine on Mar 16, 2009 6:14 AM   
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like Steve Rosen can derail nominations to governmental posts.

Our civilian/governmental institutions are so weak that they roll over by smear campaign of criminals.

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» Exactly! Posted by: badkitty68
U.S. Citizens
Posted by: getty17 on Mar 16, 2009 6:47 AM   
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This video will make an U.S. citizen who deeply supports Israel cringe. During a violent protest by ISN activists in which Israeli responded with tear gas, one U.S. citizen is critically injured at the scene.
http://www.governmentalityblog.com/ my_weblog/2009/03/ us-citizen-critically-injured-by-israel. html

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» RE: U.S. Citizens Posted by: getty17
» RE: You are a dirty liar Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» RE: Sarcasm? Posted by: Sister_Lauren
A brief look at the scorecard can be helpful- UN Violations
Posted by: chlamor on Mar 16, 2009 6:47 AM   
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The cases are listed in order of resolution number, followed by the year in which the resolution was passed, the country or countries in violation, and a brief description of the resolution.

Resolution 252 (1968) Israel
Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures that change the legal status of Jerusalem, including the expropriation of land and properties thereon.

262 (1968) Israel
Calls upon Israel to pay compensation to Lebanon for destruction of airliners at Beirut International Airport.

267 (1969) Israel
Urgently calls upon Israel to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

271 (1969) Israel
Reiterates calls to rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem and calls on Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers.

298 (1971) Israel
Reiterates demand that Israel rescind measures seeking to change the legal status of occupied East Jerusalem.

353 (1974) Turkey
Calls on nations to respect the sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity of Cyprus and for the withdrawal without delay of foreign troops from Cyprus.

354 (1974) Turkey
Reiterates provisions of UNSC resolution 353.

360 (1974) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus "without delay."

364 (1974) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

367 (1975) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

370 (1975) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

377 (1979) Morocco
Calls on countries to respect the right of self-determination for Western Sahara.

379 (1979) Morocco
Calls for the withdrawal of foreign forces from Western Sahara.

380 (1979) Morocco
Reiterates the need for compliance with previous resolutions.

391 (1976) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

401 (1976) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

414 (1977) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

422 (1977) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

440 (1978) Turkey
Reaffirms the need for compliance with prior resolutions regarding Cyprus.

446 (1979) Israel
Calls upon Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying powers, to rescind previous measures that violate these relevant provisions, and "in particular, not to transport parts of its civilian population into the occupied Arab territories."

452 (1979) Israel
Calls on the government of Israel to cease, on an urgent basis, the establishment, construction, and planning of settlements in the Arab territories, occupied since 1967, including Jerusalem.

465 (1980) Israel
Reiterates previous resolutions on Israel's settlements policy.

471 (1980) Israel
Demands prosecution of those involved in assassination attempts of West Bank leaders and compensation for damages; reiterates demands to abide by Fourth Geneva Convention.

484 (1980) Israel
Reiterates request that Israel abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.

487 (1981) Israel
Calls upon Israel to place its nuclear facilities under the safeguard of the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency.

Continued...

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UN Violations Scorecard- Part Two
Posted by: chlamor on Mar 16, 2009 6:49 AM   
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497 (1981) Israel
Demands that Israel rescind its decision to impose its domestic laws in the occupied Syrian Golan region.

541 (1983) Turkey
Reiterates the need for compliance with prior resolutions and demands that the declaration of an independent Turkish Cypriot state be withdrawn.

550 (1984) Turkey
Reiterates UNSC resolution 541 and insists that member states may "not to facilitate or in any way assist" the secessionist entity.

573 (1985) Israel
Calls on Israel to pay compensation for human and material losses from its attack against Tunisia and to refrain from all such attacks or threats of attacks against other nations.

592 (1986) Israel
Insists Israel abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions in East Jerusalem and other occupied territories.

605 (1987) Israel
"Calls once more upon Israel, the occupying Power, to abide immediately and scrupulously by the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Times of War, and to desist forthwith from its policies and practices that are in violations of the provisions of the Convention."

607 (1986) Israel
Reiterates calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention and to cease its practice of deportations from occupied Arab territories.

608 (1988) Israel
Reiterates call for Israel to cease its deportations.

636 (1989) Israel
Reiterates call for Israel to cease its deportations.

641 (1989) Israel
Reiterates previous resolutions calling on Israel to desist in its deportations.

658 (1990) Morocco
Calls upon Morocco to "cooperate fully" with the Secretary General of the United Nations and the chairman of the Organization of African Unity "in their efforts aimed at an early settlement of the question of Western Sahara."

672 (1990) Israel
Reiterates calls for Israel to abide by provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention in the occupied Arab territories.

673 (1990) Israel
Insists that Israel come into compliance with resolution 672.

681 (1990) Israel
Reiterates call on Israel to abide by Fourth Geneva Convention in the occupied Arab territories.

690 (1991) Morocco
Calls upon both parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary General in implementing a referendum on the fate of the territory.

694 (1991) Israel
Reiterates that Israel "must refrain from deporting any Palestinian civilian from the occupied territories and ensure the safe and immediate return of all those deported."

716 (1991) Turkey
Reaffirms previous resolutions on Cyprus.

725 (1991) Morocco
"Calls upon the two parties to cooperate fully in the settlement plan."

726 (1992) Israel
Reiterates calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention and to cease its practice of deportations from occupied Arab territories.

799 (1992) Israel
"Reaffirms applicability of Fourth Geneva Convention…to all Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, including Jerusalem, and affirms that deportation of civilians constitutes a contravention of its obligations under the Convention."

809 (1992) Morocco
Reiterates call to cooperate with the peace settlement plan, particularly regarding voter eligibility for referendum.

822 (1993) Armenia
Calls for Armenia to implement the "immediate withdrawal of all occupying forces from the Kelbadjar district and other recently occupied areas of Azerbaijan."

853 (1993) Armenia
Demands "complete and unconditional withdrawal of the occupying forces" from Azerbaijani territory.

Continued...

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UN Violations Scorecard- Part Three
Posted by: chlamor on Mar 16, 2009 6:52 AM   
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884 (1993) Armenia
Calls on Armenia to use its influence to force compliance by Armenian militias to previous resolutions and to withdraw its remaining occupation forces.

904 (1994) Israel
Calls upon Israel, as the occupying power, "to take and implement measures, inter alia, confiscation of arms, with the aim of preventing illegal acts of violence by settlers."

973 (1995) Morocco
Reiterates the need for cooperation with United Nations and expediting referendum on the fate of Western Sahara.

995 (1995) Morocco
Calls for "genuine cooperation" with UN efforts to move forward with a referendum.

1002 (1995) Morocco
Reiteration of call for "genuine cooperation" with UN efforts.

1009 (1995) Croatia
Demands that Croatia "respect fully the rights of the local Serb population to remain, leave, or return in safety."

1017 (1995) Morocco
Reiterates the call for "genuine cooperation" with UN efforts and to cease "procrastinating actions which could further delay the referendum."

1033 (1995) Morocco
Reiterates call for "genuine cooperation" with UN efforts.

1044 (1996) Sudan
Calls upon Sudan to extradite to Ethiopia for prosecution three suspects in an assassination attempt of visiting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and to cease its support for sanctuary and offering of sanctuary to terrorists.

1054 (1996) Sudan
Demands that Sudan come into compliance with UNSC resolution 1044.

1056 (1996) Morocco
Calls for the release of political prisoners from occupied Western Sahara.

1070 (1996) Sudan
Reiterates demands to comply with 1044 and 1054.

1073 (1996) Israel
"Calls on the safety and security of Palestinian civilians to be ensured."

1079 (1996) Croatia
Reaffirms right of return for Serbian refugees to Croatia.

1092 (1996) Turkey/Cyprus
Calls for a reduction of foreign troops in Cyprus as the first step toward a total withdrawal troops as well as a reduction in military spending.

1117 (1997) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a reduction of foreign troops in Cyprus as the first step toward a total withdrawal troops and reduction in military spending.

1120 (1997) Croatia
Reaffirms right of return for Serbian refugees to Croatia and calls on Croatia to change certain policies that obstruct this right, and to treat its citizens equally regardless of ethnic origin.

1145 (1997) Croatia
Reiterates Croatian responsibility in supporting the political and economic rights of its people regardless of ethnic origin.

1172 (1998) India, Pakistan
Calls upon India and Pakistan to cease their development of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.

1178 (1998) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a substantial reduction of foreign troops and reduction in military spending.

1185 (1998) Morocco
Calls for the lifting of restrictions of movement by aircraft of UN peacekeeping force.

1215 (1998) Morocco
Urges Morocco to promptly sign a "status of forces agreement."

1217 (1998) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a substantial reduction of foreign troops and reduction in military spending.

1251 (1999) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates call for a substantial reduction of foreign troops and reduction in military spending.

1264 (1999) Indonesia
Calls on Indonesia to provide safe return for refugees and punish those for acts of violence during and after the referendum campaign.

Continued...

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UN Violations Scorecard- Part Four
Posted by: chlamor on Mar 16, 2009 6:55 AM   
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1283 (1999) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolution 1251.

1303 (2000) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolutions 1283 and 1251.

1319 (2000) Indonesia
Insists that Indonesia "take immediate additional steps, in fulfillment of its responsibilities, to disarm and disband the militia immediately, restore law and order in the affected areas of West Timor, ensure safety and security in the refugee camps and for humanitarian workers, and prevent incursions into East Timor." Stresses that those guilty of attacks on international personnel be brought to justice and reiterates the need to provide safe return for refugees who wish to repatriate and provide resettlement for those wishing to stay in Indonesia.

1322 (2000) Israel
Calls upon Israel to scrupulously abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention regarding the responsibilities of occupying power.

1331 (2000) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolution 1251 and subsequent resolutions.

1338 (2001) Indonesia
Calls for Indonesian cooperation with the UN and other international agencies in the fulfillment of UNSC resolution 1319.

1359 (2001) Morocco
Calls on the parties to "abide by their obligations under international humanitarian law to release without further delay all those held since the start of the conflict."

1384 (2001) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates 1251 and all relevant resolutions on Cyprus.

1402 (2002) Israel
Calls for Israel to withdraw from Palestinian cities.

1403 (2002) Israel
Demands that Israel go through with "the implementation of its resolution 1402, without delay."

1405 (2002) Israel
Calls for UN inspectors to investigate civilian deaths during an Israeli assault on the Jenin refugee camp.

1416 (2002) Turkey/Cyprus
Reiterates UNSC resolution 1251 and all relevant resolutions on Cyprus.

1435 (2002) Israel
Calls on Israel to withdraw to positions of September 2000 and end its military activities in and around Ramallah, including the destruction of security and civilian infrastructure.

This list does not include resolutions that merely condemn a particular action, only those that specifically proscribe a particular ongoing activity or future activity and/or call upon a particular government to implement a particular action. Nor does this list does include resolutions where the language is ambiguous enough to make assertions of noncompliance debatable, such as UNSC resolutions 242 and 338 on the Arab-Israeli conflict that put forward the formula of "land for peace," to cite the most famous. Similarly, it does not include broad resolutions calling for universal compliance not in reference to a particular conflict, particularly if there is not a clear definition. For example, in a resolution that proscribes the harboring of terrorists, there is no clear definition for what constitutes a terrorist. This list does not include nonstate actors, such as secessionist governments, rebel groups or terrorists, only recognized nation-states.

Furthermore, this list does not include resolutions that were also violated for a number of years that are now moot (such as those dealing with Indonesia's occupation of East Timor, South Africa's occupation of Namibia, and Israel's occupation of southern Lebanon). If these were also included, the number of violations would double. In most of these cases, the United States played a key role in blocking enforcement of these resolutions as well.

United Nations Security Council Resolutions Currently Being Violated

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We need to make more distinctions
Posted by: leafsong1 on Mar 16, 2009 7:01 AM   
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between Americans and non-Americans. Currently, there are many firms in the US Chamber of Commerce that are foreign owned and/or headquartered in foreign lands, or pay most of their taxes elsewhere. They should be excluded from the chamber and from every other lobbying organization. Foreign companies and powers should be absolutely prohibited from lobbying the US government. Such foreign companies should be ineligible to recieve bail-out dollars or other assistance from the US government. Dual citizenship should be outlawed and those who claim it should be reclassified as foreign nationals. AIPAC, among others, should be disbanded as a lobby for a foreign government, and if their members continue to lobby for Israel, they should be deported to there.

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Thank you prayer
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Mar 16, 2009 7:02 AM   
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For the Monkeys (I am a believer)

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So all Obama fans refer to the scorecard as you ponder the following...
Posted by: chlamor on Mar 16, 2009 7:03 AM   
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U.S. official: Obama won't cut military aid to Israel

U.S. President Barack Obama will not cut the billions of dollars in military aid promised to Israel, a senior U.S. administration official said Wednesday.

The $30 billion in aid promised to Israel over the next decade will not be harmed by the world financial crisis, the official told Israel Radio.
He spoke on condition of anonymity.

The Obama Administration however expects the next government of Prime Minister-designate Benjamin Netanyahu to continue peace negotiations with the Palestinians, he said.

The increased military aid was promised to outgoing prime minister Ehud Olmert by then-under secretary of state for political affairs Nicholas Burns in August 2007.

Israel Radio also quoted the official as saying that if Hamas joins a Palestinian unity cabinet but does not accept the conditions of the Quartet of Middle East peace sponsors - the U.S., European Union, United Nations and Russia - the Obama Administration would have no dealings with that government.

The radical Islamist movement ruling Gaza is holding talks in Cairo with the secular Fatah party of moderate President Mahmoud Abbas and other factions on forming a unity government.

The talks in Cairo are a bid to reconcile between the rivaling factions, which have been locked in a bitter power struggle since Hamas beat Fatah in January 2006 elections and culminated in the Islamist group violently seizing sole control of Gaza in June 2007.

After the Hamas elections victory, the Quartet said it would boycott Hamas, unless it recognized Israel's right to exist, endorsed past interim peace deals calling for a two-state solution to the conflict, and renounced violence.

Obama will not cut military aid to Israel

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Here's What I'm Tired Of...
Posted by: 5by5 on Mar 16, 2009 7:04 AM   
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I'm tired of certain, shall we say "advocates", automatically equating ANY criticism (valid, supported by documentation or otherwise) of the Israeli state with anti-Semitism.

The term "Semitic" comes from the Biblical word "shem" which refers to the descendants of the Hebrews, AND the Arabs, Aramaeans, Assyrians, Babylonians, Chaldeans, Phoenicians, Sabaeans, as well as others in the Middle East and their language and cultures. They're ALL Semites.

Therefore BY DEFINITION, one cannot be anti-Semitic and pro-Palestinian.

But speaking for myself now, I would not characterize myself as being EITHER pro-Palestinian OR pro-Israeli. I am neither, I am an AMERICAN. And as such, unlike Mr. Rosen apparently, I place THIS country's welfare over EITHER Israel's or the Palestinians.

Sometimes our country's goals will coincide with the Israelis. Sometimes they will coincide with the Palestinians. Sometimes all three will be in line. But in NO CIRCUMSTANCE do I place either of their goals above our own.

Which is the mistake Mr. Rosen apparently made when he involved himself with Israeli espionage activities in this country. That is a man who needs to DECIDE which country he will be loyal to.

If you are so beholden to Israel, Mr. Rosen, I invite you to become a citizen of that country. Then you may advocate for it as stridently as you like. But if you are to be an AMERICAN, may I politely ask you to frickin' ACT LIKE IT?

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» RE: AT&T Posted by: Sister_Lauren
Twisting language
Posted by: chorton on Mar 16, 2009 7:44 AM   
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Here's one of the biggest twists: "Annihilating" Israel, or "wiping out" or "destroying" Israel, or "denying Israel's right to exist". In fact, anyone who calls for Israel to become a secular democratic state with equal rights and responsibilities for everyone, Arab and Jew alike, is accused of calling for the "destruction of the Jewish State", and by implication calling for the mass murder of the Jews!

Inside Israel this goes way beyond rhetoric. Arabs who call for equal rights for all, principles which we take for granted now in the US and Europe, and who thereby call for an end to special privileges and rights for Jews, are being charged with the crime of advocating genocide in court. Arab Israelis are being exiled and imprisoned. A serious attempt was just made to bar the Arab political parties from running candidates for the Knesset, and Lieberman who is in the government now is committed to that. Barred for calling for equality, by a logic which twists this into meaning wiping out the Jews!

We should guard ourselves against buying into or repeating talk about "Arabs who want to destroy Israel" or who "deny Israel's right to exist", without first looking for ourselves at what they mean and what they are actually talking about, in their own words.

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Many Seem To Overlook Reality
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 16, 2009 7:50 AM   
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Hamas is Responsible for All As It Lit The Proverbial Fuse in Palestine
[[note, I am an independent researcher and not a Zionist, Jew, or Jew supporter, but one who believes in truth per John 8:32, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." (Authorized King James Bible, AV)]]

Wars should be eliminated and at present one religion is responsible for over 90% of the violence on earth as pointed out by an Australian newspaper as follows:

"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-Muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]"

I am getting very tired of hearing Palestinians and other Ishmaelite crying crocodile tears and always trying to put the blame for what they do on others such as their conspiracy weavers tried to do about who did 9/11/2001 attack on the World Trade Center, etc. Screaming against what they call wrongful occupations when they are guilty of occupying Byzantine territory, Palestine which belongs to the Israelites [see Numbers the 34 th. Chapter in any Bible for proof of this, and their outright greed as they have over 98% of the Middle East, but still greedily want the less than 2% belonging to their sister tribe Israel] - its time we get real and put an end to this so the world can stop experiencing continuous Ishmaelite induced strife such as shooting rockets at Israel.

Solution, dissolve this false religion and rid the earth of at least 90% of the violence. But of course the politicians will not do what is needed since as Jeremiah 10:23 says, "O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). To read detailed information, go to the following article:

[go to] When Should A Religion Be Dissolved In The Interest Of World Peace?

Which can be found at,

http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/

An Educational Referral Forum under the sub-heading, ' ISLAM THE SOURCE OF MOST VIOLENCE

Along with many other useful articles.

Iris89

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» A "Jew Supporter"?? Posted by: 5by5
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» RE: What religion are you? Posted by: solrev
» RE: What religion are you? Posted by: iris89
Get Real, Accept Reality, The Truth Per John 8:32
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 16, 2009 7:55 AM   
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A reality primer on who is the REAL war criminal in Gaza - Hamas.

A temporary cease-fire in Gaza that simply allows Hamas to obtain more lethal weapons will assure a repetition of Hamas' win-win tactic of firing rockets at Israeli civilians while using Palestinian civilians as human shields.

The best example of Hamas' double war crime tactic was Tuesday, when it succeeded in sending a rocket to a town less than 20 miles south of Tel Aviv and injuring a child. At the same time, it provoked Israel to attack a United Nations school from which Hamas was launching its rockets. Residents of the neighborhood said two Hamas fighters were in the area at the time, and the Israeli military said they had been killed, according to the New York Times.

The Hamas tactic of firing rockets from schools, hospitals and mosques dates back to 2005, when Israel ended its occupation of Gaza. Several months ago, the head of the Israeli air force showed me a videotape (now available on YouTube) of a Hamas terrorist deliberately moving his rocket launcher to the front of a U.N. school, firing a rocket and then running away, no doubt hoping that Israel would then respond by attacking the rocket launcher and thus killing Palestinian children in the school.

This is the Hamas dual strategy: to kill and injure as many Israeli civilians as possible by firing rockets indiscriminately at Israeli civilian targets, and to provoke Israel to kill as many Palestinian civilians as possible to garner world sympathy.

Let's STOP Hamas' evil activities and have lasting peace in Israel and Gaza!

If you have questions PM me on the forum #1 or #3 below where the article is and I will provide further evidence. If you want to learn more about the real facts on the Bible and Religion, to to:

[1] http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum

[2] http://www.network54.com/Forum/403209 A Forum Devoted to Exposing The False Religion of Islam

[3] http://jude3.proboards92.com/ A Free-Speech Forum For All

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"Myth-jacking" is the Method Behind the Madness
Posted by: knowbuddhaU on Mar 16, 2009 7:58 AM   
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Cross-posted at The Nation

Great comments, but we're all talking around the central method. Please, as a grad student of psychology and Zen poet, allow me to spell it out.

Just as McCarthy jacked America with threats of Commies under every bed, we got jacked into Iraq by myths of terrorists with WMDs; the McCain campaign tried to jack the election with myths about Obama; Chas Freeman got jacked by the Lieberman Lobby (neé Israel); and as the Stewart/Cramer debate shows, "news" organizations helped jack us into this economic Waste Land.

I call it: myth-jacking, the state of the art in manuFRACTURing consent.

Did you know that Joseph Campbell began lecturing in 1956, for I don't know how long, at the Foreign Service Institute? Some have taken his lessons to heart. Some of us are using a warped "power of myth" to power weapons-grade domestic propaganda: a "strategic domestic disinformation campaign," in lifeless bureaucratese.

Looks like a concerted effort to jack the nation with not just mere lies, but with myths.

Myths aren't simple lies, they are metaphors, they are vessels, into which we are easily lured. The myths of our day, that is, deliver us as a people into our Promised or Waste Land, exactly as we load them with our intentions.

On second thought, a better image is of us in Mother Nature's Waste Stream. Is the earth already voiding us?

Here's a depiction of our global intentions:

[[[Full-Spectrum Dominance / Our Common Weal///[[[{{{Dissent}}}]]]]]]

In this case, the generic formula reads: "Full-spectrum dominance over our common weal based on suppression of dissent."

See the blast walls, the checkpoints, the laws that squelch dissent in our throats? Every brick-and-mortar wall ever built, and also our more intimate shields, are represented by the slashes and brackets.

beloved/[{UNION}]/Beloved

In every case: In Union We Trust

We need to wake up to the role played by mythological themes in our daily lives, since that's how we're getting jacked to hell, and stuck with the bill, over and over again.

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Sequel To Whose Land It Is - Learn The Truth Per John 8:32
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 16, 2009 8:01 AM   
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Whose Land Is It? A Study of The Land of Palestine

INTRODUCTION:

Land title research in many areas is a very difficult task. In Mexico, the titles to farm land are so clouded it can take years to adequately search them. In some places the granting of title to land by a legitimate granter can go back over 3,500 years. One such place is the land of Palestine where current occupancy has no relationship to whom holds title.

Even some of the most famous buildings in the land of Palestine are actually squatters on land to which others hold title. The most famous instance of this is the Temple Mount and its squatter mosque that sits on the site of the ancient temple of ancient Hebrew kingdom and belongs to the Hebrews. This mess with many occupying land as squatters for which others hold title makes for an untenable position when the rightful title holder takes back his/her land, especially so when it is centuries later.

The present situation in much of Palestine is like the battle between the squatters and the owners, titleholders of land in the old west in the United States; to wit, squatters wanting to continue to squat and land owners wanting their land back. However, some additional situations enter the picture since many of the land owners - their ancestors - were forced off the their land by the Romans and by later Caliphs. Now of course the rule of law should be applied and the squatters finally brought to their day of reckoning with reality, they have no title to the land they are on.

To read the remainder, go to,

[go to] http://jude3.proboards92.com/index.cgi?board=islam

And then to the article, "Whose Land Is It? A Study of The Land of Palestine"

Note: if you have questions PM me on the forum where the article is and I will provide further evidence.

Iris89

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Sequel To Whose Land Is Palestine - Learn The Truth Per John 8:32
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 16, 2009 8:03 AM   
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One thing many are forgetting is that the Israelites actually have title to all of Palestine; therefore, it is only right that the Arabs living there stop wrongly occupying land that Almighty God (YHWH) specifically gave title to their sister tribe, the Hebrews.

Reality, Arabs have over 98% of the land in the Middle East, but are so greedy that they want the less than 2% of the land that rightly belongs to the Hebrews. Those on Hebrew lands should STOP their wrongful occupation and go back where their ancestors came from.

To learn more, go to:

[go to] http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/index.cgi

An Educational Referral Forum

And then go to sub forums as follows:

[1] Land Title A Summary Survey

[2] Members of Islam Do Not Recognize Reality

If you wish additional information and/or to discuss with me, PM me on this forum.

Iris89

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Learn The Truth With espect Palestine And Who Owns It
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 16, 2009 8:05 AM   
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Now, with respect Palestine there is a scripture all should consider, 1 Peter 3:11, "Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it." (Authorized King James Bible; AV).

But neither the Ishmaelites - Hamas, nor the Hebrews - Israelites are considering it. Strange as they are both descendants of Abraham, one by Ishmael and one by Issac.

Now, even though the Ishmaelites control over 98% of the Middle East, they are greedy for the less than 2% of the Middle East belonging to their brother tribe, the Hebrews - Israelites. This is NOT the way for the descendants of Abraham who walked with Almighty God (YHWH) to act.

Why is this? It is because neither is walking with the TRUE GOD as did Abraham, but both are being mislead by none other than Satan the Devil per 2 Corinthians 4:4, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (AV).

In fact, the Ishmaelites instead of pursuing peace in accordance with what Jesus (Yeshua) the Son of God said at Matthew 22:37-40 said, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." (AV).

This is clearly shown by what one Australian Newspaper said, "Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]"

However, what the world needs is peace, not war. So clearly we can see that the Ishmaelites are in a false religion not walking with Almighty God (YHWH), the God of Abraham; nor are the Hebrews who do not recognize his son, Jesus (Yeshua), anymore than the Ishmaelites.

All need to be showing love for neighbor by exposing false beliefs that are ruining mankind by misleading him from walking with the True God of Abraham, Almighty God (YHWH).

To learn more, go to:

http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/ An Educational Referral Forum

And going down to:

DISCUSSIONS AND EXPOSURES, and to subject Exposing False Belief A Loving Act

Iris89

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Palestinens Do NOT Want Peace As Proved By Hamas
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 16, 2009 8:07 AM   
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The question should NOT be who broke the cease fire, but that of peace. All should pursue peace and love and NOT violence and hate. But many are just fooling themselves, it is not what either the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an actually say, but how religious leaders be they priest and/or imams or muftis or what ever teach the people is the interpretation of what is written either in the Bible or the bible knockoff the Qur'an that matters and governs actions. It matters not what the Bible and/or the Bible knockoff really say. People go by what they are taught by their religious leaders. Take the genocide committed by the Roman Catholic Church at the direction of their supreme religious leader, the pope, what mattered was not that the Bible clearly said at Exodus 20:13, "Thou shalt not kill." (Authorized King James Bible; AV), but what their religious leaders told them. Therefore, it is the religion at fault, irregardless of what their particular holy book, be it the Bible or the Bible knockoff the Qur'an may say. Neither is so called Christianity or in Islam are most individuals actions really governed in any way by what their particular holy book really says, but they are governed by the interpretation of their religious leaders. Thus, knowing this reality, one would be either just plain stupid and/or dumb to even bother looking at a particular religion's holy book and expect the members would conform to it. Take the Rig Vede and find me for example a Hindu actually conforming to it instead of the interpretation given to it by his religious leaders, like looking for a needle in the haystack per K.S. Lal, India's greatest historian.

Hamas is NOT seeking peace as clearly shown by Hamas' denial of the right of the Israelites to exist; whereas, Israel never has denied the right of the Palestines to existence. Nor has Israel ever used civilians as human shields or suicide bombers. Both of these practices show a clear disregard for peace and love of life and fellow man. Both the Ishmaelites - Hamas, and the Hebrews - Israelites should be walking with the TRUE GOD as did Abraham, but neither are.

For details, go to, http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/

An Educational Referral Forum and start learning the ways of peace and reality. If there are any questions or you want to discuss, PM me at this forum.

Iris89

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» Religious Spamming + Posted by: 5by5
It is the Basic Human Tragedy
Posted by: PaulK on Mar 16, 2009 8:40 AM   
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NOTE: This is actually a comment from Paul K's wife, Liberty G - not sure how that happened. However, he read it and said, "Go ahead" - we have consensus on the thoughts expressed.

I'm saddened by the comments on "both sides", because it is all just the same old same old.
Lumping all people who have some common characteristic together (whether it be religion, race, place of residence, whatever)and designating them as "enemy". This, usually perpetrated by those in love with power and money, results in violence and seizing of assets or other oppression.

There are many wonderful Israelis, and there are organizations of Jewish people in the U.S. and elsewhere that are concerned for all the civilians victimized by the vicious power struggles by those "at the top" (top of a dung heap, IMHO). Likewise, there are many Arabs, Palestinian and other, longing and working for peace.

The only solution - which I fear is far, far off, is for people to stop attacking and hating and cooperate to make a better world for all.

I don't blame anyone for scoffing at this vision - yet I believe it can be proven that it is in fact the only thing that will ever end the misery - in the "Holy Land" (now pretty UnHoly, it appears) and elsewhere on our little planet. As Martin Luther King and Mahatma Gandhi taught - violence only begets violence, and an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. It's interesting that we are so skeptical of non-violent means - yet we don't seem to notice that violence only "works" short term for one side of a disputing pair - and usually results in years or centuries of continued battle and suffering down the road.

In a mental hospital in Indiana years ago, I saw a sign that says it all - "Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results".

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» I Agree With You My Brother Posted by: Triumph
The Head Puppet of the Property Party
Posted by: neilemac on Mar 16, 2009 9:19 AM   
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When it was Bush 'deciding,' he was accused of having his strings manipulated by Saudi interests.

Now that it's Obabma, strings are pulled by the Saudi's nemesis creating an Uncle Tom of Zion.

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what bullshit - either make Israel the 51st state
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Mar 16, 2009 9:46 AM   
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or bring all the Israeli Jews here.

Option b is far cheaper in the long run.

#@!

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AIPAC
Posted by: Archie1954 on Mar 16, 2009 9:49 AM   
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I think this article points the way to the beginning of the end of AIPAC's undue influence on American politics and foreign policy. To date this Zionist lobby has held America in a death grip. Much of the trouble in the Middle East can be laid at it's doorstep. Why it should have such influence is an important question that should be delved into as it may hold the key to America's resurgence as a world power and humanitarian nation. AIPAC is treacherous and those who support AIPAC's aims may actually be unregistered Israeli agents. Just look at some of them, Rosen, Pipes, Schumer, Lieberman, Kirk and many more. Do these gentlemen really have the best interests of the US in mind when they vocally support AIPAC's wishes and use their votes to satisfy AIPAC's aims? I personally don't think so. I would carefully review the voting pattern of all the Congressional members to ascertain where and when they voted AIPAC's line and then check to see where those votes hurt America. You may be shocked at the result. Just watch AIPAC like a hawk. They can only do damage when they are acting in secret, when no one is watching them. Don't let that happen, keep them in front of the public at all times.

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NOT AT ALL! AIPAC HAS WON!
Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Mar 16, 2009 10:01 AM   
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Israel, like the rest of the Middle East is an INSANE ASYLUM. (paranoid, militaristic and fascist, just like the Nazis who abused them). Israel is now lead by one or both Tzippi and Netanyahu...both nut jobs, so it IS GOING TO GET EVEN WORSE, UNTIL SOMEONE STOPS THEM.

Worse, Barack Obama's speech to AIPAC was ghastly and sickening and sent a message to us all that the U.S. has sold itself out to Israeli/Zionist insanity. There will be no end to it until Radical/Fascist U.S. Christians, cheering on and supporting Israel in its insane and inhuman violence and apartheid in order to CREATE the Armageddon and Rapture they have somehow invented out of rags, succeeds, taking the world with them.

All I have to know is that those Israeli Mossad operatives who were seen jumping up and down on a car ON 9/11, whooping and hollering/ celebrating as the WTC came down, were merely sent back to Israel unprosecuted.

http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

AMERICANS NEED TO WISE UP. THEIR TAX DOLLARS FUND THE ISRAELI MASS MURDER MACHINE.



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What a Shock- an Israel Lobby supports Israel
Posted by: Len Miller on Mar 16, 2009 10:02 AM   
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Frankly, I think the author is out of touch or particulary naive'. Perhaps he and the other usual suspects do not understand what a lobby does. Amazing as it might sound, lobbyists lobby for the benefit of the cause they represent. So, how hard is it to believe that a pro-Israeli lobby would oppose the nomination of someone who has shown himself to be inimical to Israel's interests? You have to be naive to believe otherwise.

So, what is novel or even interesting about the article. I guess the implication is that a pro-Israel position is against the interests of the USA. Perhaps the point is that the author does not like some of the people who support Israel. The first point is incorrect and the second irrelevant.

Perhaps better than the anti-semites that haunt alternet, the leaders of our country, be they Democratic or Republican, understand that Israel is the only true friend that we have in the Middle East. The only friend that can be counted on. The only true democracy in the Middle East. The problem with the anti-semetic stance of those who write and comment on Alternet is that they either are naive about or hide their anti-semetism. The judgment on the State of Israel should not be made through the prism of what commentators, neo-cons or supposed right wingers support Israel (by the way their are many on the left who also support Israel- I am one of them) but by a judgment of Israel as one would judge every other Nation State. Israel is singled out amongst all of the countries in the World for the most vitriolic and unfair criticism. Israel is not judged by any fair standard that takes account of the right of self defense and the protection of one's citizenry.

As usual, I will likely hear from the usual suspects spewing their version of hatred-- that serves no useful purpose.

Israel deserves the support of the USA. I know this may come as a shock, but friends usually help their friends and allies.

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I want to go back to separation of Church and State
Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on Mar 16, 2009 10:03 AM   
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This zionist group that has taken over Israel and part of our government has no business here - any more than Fundamentalist Christians with their belief in end times has business in our politic. I want us to go back to the days when Senators, Members of Congress and Presidents would not have dreamed of obviously voting along religious lines that are not in the best interest of America - and would have been called to task for carrying out the will of another nation. I well remember the fears about "the Pope running the White House" during the Kennedy election. We have to keep in mind that what's happening here is not about the Jewish religion or Jewish people per se - the religion and the people have been separated from the issue by the fanatics. It's about Zionists - their ambitions in the Jewish Homeland and their unbending unwillingness to embrace a two state solution that awards Palestinians some of their own homeland. History is replete with the bones of leaders and nations that overreached. I think Israel is being lead down the path to its own destruction and we have to be careful that the Zionists in charge don't take us with it.

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US Govt officials with DUAL ISRAELI/U.S. CITIZENSHIP
Posted by: AlwaysAskWhy on Mar 16, 2009 10:45 AM   
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All you need to know about US government criminals and Israel (AIPAC) is at:

http://www.http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

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"HE WHO PASSES BY AND MEDDLES IN A QUARREL NOT HIS OWN...
Posted by: Dennis St. John on Mar 16, 2009 11:16 AM   
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...is like one who takes a dog by the ears." [Proverbs 26:17]

It's a cruel thing to do, number one, and some dogs will rip you to shreds for it.

The entire Middle Eastern situation is hopeless, and best left to the inhabitants there to settle matters.

It is just silly for anyone to argue that Islam is a peaceful religion, as American national leaders have done, including presidents. Islam spread from Arabia all across north Africa and the underbelly of Europe, up into Spain and the Balkans, and was finally stopped at Vienna, Austria. It wasn't spread by peaceful exuberance or stimulating intellectual debate. A river of blood was shed. Mohammed, who personally murdered between 100 and 700 persons, depending on the source cited, didn't help by repeatedly calling Jews and Christians apes and swine, and encouraging his followers to kill all the infidels. No, calling Islam peaceful is nuts.

No less crazy, though, are those who claim that America is a Christian nation, or embued with Christian ethics and beliefs.

Jesus never killed anyone, neither did he advocate killing anyone, nor did he sanction killing anyone. He possessed the power to annihilate mankind, yet he laid down his life rather than kill and commanded his disciples to follow his example, which Christians, by definition, do.

It is only perversions of Christianity that engage in violence, such as the Roman Catholic Church, which condoned and committed rabid anti-Semitism, to include pogroms; hideous torture as in the Spanish Inquisition; political intrigue in the Vatican which resulted in murders, bribes, and extortion; the bloody slaughters of the Crusades; burning heretics alive at the stake; and fomenting religious wars on the European continent that continued right up until the 20th century in "the troubles" in northern Ireland.

So, one religion that has always justified violence in the name of Allah, claims to be peaceful. Another peaceful religion has been perverted to justify violence in the name of God. It's all quite insane, and the inmates are running the asylum.

There is nothing so intractable as religious fervor, and nothing so irrational as religious lies.

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ROLE REVERSALS
Posted by: steveselverston on Mar 16, 2009 12:51 PM   
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What a strange role reversal it is that now has liberals demonizing Jews and conservatives defending them! Posts just like these on AlterNet can be found at www.jewwatch.com or www.stormfront.org, which are two websites I can safely assume the AlterNet readers will enjoy. I would write more, but the AlterNet editors are likely going to remove my post (because it supports Israel), so there isn't much point...

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10 year or 12 step program
Posted by: pithaughn on Mar 16, 2009 1:59 PM   
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Would a gradual reduction in aid work? Proposal: Freeze increase in aid starting in 09. There after, decrease aid by 10% a year, until aid drops below $50million. $50 million would be appropriate based on size of population.
We are like the abuesd spouse of an alchoholic, we enable Israel's bad behaviour. They have had 60 years to make nice with their new neighborhs and have failed misreably. Just as parents eventually cut off aid to a child that continues to fail in college, we neen to give Israel some tough love and start reducing their aid in a structured, predictable pattern. Only then will the Israeli leaders be forced to engage with abutting countries in an honest way.

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The foreign policy "third rail"
Posted by: Democritus on Mar 16, 2009 2:00 PM   
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The "third rail" for domestic policy is to talk about privatizing Social Security. George W. Bush touched that rail and got burned.

Ever since the installation of the Israeli state, the "third rail" of foreign policy has been to talk about fairhandedness in dealing with Israelis and Arabs. George H.W. Bush touched this rail and got burned.

Isn't it time to let AIPAC know that the power is being shut off? That way, not only will there be progress in diplomacy, but Israel will know that it can't keep breaking UN resolutions and keep receiving U.S. aid.

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Charles W. ("Chas") Freeman is a bad choice either way
Posted by: masthead on Mar 16, 2009 2:00 PM   
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Freeman's intemperate criticism of Israel may be one reason for the jewish lobby to wish him away but Freeman's praise of China's massacre at Tiananmen Square should be a reason for the obama administration to disqualify him. obama is a very confusing man.

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The Israeli RIGHT Wing
Posted by: wwittman on Mar 16, 2009 3:26 PM   
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The Israeli right-wing is like every other right-wing.
War loving, anti-populist, rascist, and wrong about anything economic.
Oh, and a slave to its religion...

see? just like the American right-wing

the sad and odd thing is how so many American LIBERAL (ostensibly) Jews feel compelled to blindly support that Israeli RIGHT wing.

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American Zionists Are Traitors
Posted by: booboo on Mar 16, 2009 6:31 PM   
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"Which Zionists, Jewish or Christian?"

"Both."

"Why?"

"They put Israel's interests before America's"

"Based on?"

"9/11

"How are Zionists responsible for that?"

"Israel's U.S. supported slaughter of Palestinians is what stokes the fear and hatred that underlies the Messsianic extremist movements in the Mideast and elsewhere."

"The answer being?"

"Jewish colonizer and colonized Palestinian sitting down together and working things out."

"Based on?"

"One equals one."

"Anything else?"

"Liberty and justice for all."

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You're dreaming, fellow, Israel is entrenched
Posted by: dayahka on Mar 16, 2009 6:59 PM   
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Yeah, yeah, yeah! You clearly have no idea of how entrenched the pro-Israeli "lobby" is in this country. You also have no idea how afraid the US is of a rogue Israel and its 200 odd nuclear weapons. You're not dealing with rational people here, but with people as fanatical as the Islamic fundamentalists. The "public" sees a back and forth, perhaps, with a win here (as in the Freeman case) and a loss there (as you presume may be coming), but the reality is that Israel always gets its way.

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Look at who comprises the Federal Reserve and the recipients
Posted by: RR#1 on Mar 16, 2009 8:02 PM   
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of the bail-outs and you would see why America is so unabashidly biased towards Isreal no matter how egregious their behavior toward Palestine and the rest of the Middle East. If these people were Italian they would be stereotyped as the Mafia and Rico proceedings would be launched against them. I think the fear of an anti-semetic backlash is behind a lot of the secrecy of the Federal Reserve and the rest of the banking community.

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Who says the US is not under Jewish control? Israeil=GOD
Posted by: humanity101 on Mar 16, 2009 10:11 PM   
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No one, no one can criticize that Godly country. I can predict that if Israel decides to murder all the Palestinians, you will see those same pathetic stooges come up with outrageous excuses to justify that holocaust. It's just disgusting and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Where is Noem Chomsky?

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The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate.
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Mar 16, 2009 10:20 PM   
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"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."

-- Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation".

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Israel/WW2/and the Allies Sacrifice
Posted by: beeden on Mar 16, 2009 11:08 PM   
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How often those who deny the holocaust in Nazi Germany are castigated, it is impossible to deny the slaughter, and yet to deny the horrors of Israeli atrocities in Palestine is to be labelled a terrorist or terrorist sympathiser.
How often are we reminded of the collective punishment and deaths of the Jewish people under Nazism, whilst forgetting the deaths and casualties of the Allied forces who liberated Europe and the concentration camps from the horrors of the Nazi ideology. Since that time European nations have lived in relative harmony respecting each other's borders, and developing economic systems that include their neighbours in the search for greater and mutual prosperity. It is only Israel, created through the victory of the Allied nations, which has sought to expand its borders through an ideology of religious-based exclusivity over the last 60+ years.
The state of Israel was created, after the Second World War, with specific, internationally recognised borders, not borders based on fundamentalist Zionist expansionary ideologies. It was never meant to be a land without end for the inhabitants to expand upon, based on some original Biblical nation, and whatever else they could steal. Instead, through the manipulations of Zionist ideology it has sought to ever increase its land holdings by the same methods used by its former Jewish tormentors and murderers, the Nazis, utilising an ideology of religious (instead of racial) purity, that excludes non-Jewish citizens of Israel from enjoying full participation in the democratic process, and full participation in society as a productive member of that society.
The living conditions in Gaza and the West Bank (the destruction of infrastructure, denial of water/electricity/medical resources/food supplies) have been punitively, ideologically and collectively enforced, in the same way as the Jewish people were punitively, ideologically and collectively victimized in Nazi Germany. There is no separated distinction between the two holocausts, both are ideologically based on genocide solutions, and both have the final intention of attaining the victims' properties.
The betrayal of Israel, of the sacrifice of the men, women and children of Europe and of the Allied forces to defeat the Nazi holocaust perpetrators and the rescue of its Jewish survivors, with the ongoing genocide in Gaza and the West Bank for the accumulation of a Greater Israel has to be the greatest shame for the victims of the Holocaust and the victims of the Second World War. For it was not just the Jewish population of Europe which suffered under Nazi policy but the whole population of Europe, subjected to massacres, rapes, bombardments, random torture, starvation, dismemberments, the list goes on. Some 23 million civilian deaths, 18.5 million military deaths(not including military from outside Europe involved in Europe), not including those left physically disabled, were required to sacrifice their lives to end the Nazi’s control of Europe, and eventual rescue of the surviving Jewish people remaining in the concentration camps.
The recent collateral damage to the Allied cemetery in Gaza, is further evidence of the indiscriminate use of violence by the Israeli government, their treatment of the living (the Palestinians) and the dead (of non-Jewish faith) beggars belief, the refusal to adhere to UN Violations Resolutions is a running sore on the entire International Community, such complete intransigence(on the basis of religious based prescience) in the face of overwhelming international condemnation can never resolve the issues between the people of Palestine and the people of Israel.
It is why Israel must return to its designated borders, and return all stolen land and properties back to the Palestinian peoples.
Do you think there would be a state of Israel if the Nazis had won the Second World War?

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Is this the lasp gasp.....
Posted by: MobileSucks on Mar 17, 2009 9:55 AM   
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NO

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» RE: Is this the lasp gasp..... Posted by: Len Miller
Learn Reality
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 17, 2009 3:25 PM   
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Obviously you are completely ignorant of whose land it is, but let me enlighten you.

First, The Hebrews, Israelites/Jews, were given title to Palestine in 1,500 BCE by the highest authority there is, Almighty God (YHWH), Creator of all there is, who has the absolute right to give what he created to whom he wishes.

Second, You overlook the basic fact, which maybe I did not state clear enough, that my post was about Hebrews, Israelites/Jews, and their desire and right to take back their homeland from the WRONGFUL occupiers, squatters, that stole it from them. Now what is wrong with the intention of someone and/or group to take back their homeland to which they hold the highest possible title to – title actually given by the highest personage in the universe, Almighty God (YHWH), Creator of all there is?

To wit, those who have had their homeland to which they hold the highest possible title; to wit, title actually given by the highest personage in the universe, Almighty God (YHWH), Creator of all there is, are obviously the real victims and not the wrongful occupiers getting kicked out by the rightful owners – get real.

Third, for more details, go to:

http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/

And then to sub-board,

WELCOME AND ANOUNCEMENT :: LAND TITLE SUMMARY

And start reading the facts!

If you wish to discuss, PM me on this forum.

Iris89

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All Religious States Suck
Posted by: Nuanced on Mar 17, 2009 6:56 PM   
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I've admired Israel since I first heard about it as a child but I've come to learn that Israel is no different than any other Religious state. It will always be bigoted, intolerant, unable to change, incredibly cruel and ultimately doomed to failure and it is trying to take the US down with it.

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Do Not Support Those Holding Stolen Property From Its Rightful Owners
Posted by: iris89 on Mar 20, 2009 11:46 AM   
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Hi Everyone

Some seem to have a warped sense of justice in that they support those knowingly possessing stolen property and attacking the true owners that only want to live in peace as all right thinking individuals want to. Let’s look at my answer to one such individual:

FIRST, Almighty God (YHWH) never kicked the Hebrews, Israelites/Jews, off the land and/or removed title to the land from them.

SECOND, Now the reality, In the 7 th. Century, Muslim Caliphs stole the land from the Hebrews - Israelites - and wrongly occupied the land - a wrongful occupation maintained until today in many parts of Palestine.

More reality, Most of Islam blames the apostate (counterfeit) Christians for the Crusades, but in reality Islam caused the Crusades which were the effect or result or consequences of a malicious wrong act by Fatimid Caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah. How so? Well simple, in 1009 this Caliph sacked the pilgrimage hospice in Jerusalem and destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. It was later rebuilt by the Byzantine emperor, but this event was remembered in Europe and was the spark or cause for the crusades.

Now let's look at what an encyclopedia says, {{" This background in the Christian West must be matched with that in the Muslim East. Muslim presence in the Holy Land goes back to the initial Arab conquest of Palestine [[They stole land that did not belong to them from the Hebrews and others.]]in the 7th century. This did not interfere much with pilgrimage to Christian holy sites or the security of monasteries and Christian communities in the Holy Land of Christendom, and western Europeans were not much concerned with the loss of far-away Jerusalem when, in the ensuing decades and centuries, they were themselves faced with invasions by Muslims and other hostile non-Christians such as the Vikings and Magyars. However, the Muslim armies' successes were putting strong pressure on the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire.

A turning point in western attitudes towards the east came in the year 1009, when the Fatimid caliph of Cairo, al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, had the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem destroyed. His successor permitted the Byzantine Empire to rebuild it under stringent circumstances, and pilgrimage was again permitted, but many stories began to be circulated in the West about the cruelty of Muslims toward Christian pilgrims; these stories then played an important role in the development of the crusades later in the century.

The immediate cause of the First Crusade was Alexius I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire. In 1071, at the Battle of Manzikert, the Byzantine Empire had been defeated, and this defeat led to the loss of all but the coastlands of Asia Minor (modern Turkey)[[Another land theft.]]. Although the East-West Schism was brewing between the Catholic Western church and the Greek Orthodox Eastern church, Alexius I expected some help from a fellow Christian. However, the response was much larger, and less helpful, than Alexius I desired, as the Pope called for a large invasion force to not merely defend the Byzantine Empire but also retake Jerusalem.

THIRD, Numbers the 34 chapter clearly shows their right to the land given to them by the highest authority in the universe, Almighty God (YHWH) and over six billion copies exist of this title granting; to wit, the first granting of title ever and the most documented.

See Part Two

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An embarassed American expat in Amman
Posted by: Dr. Jacqui on Mar 21, 2009 2:12 AM   
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Why is the US media not reporting the truth about the Palestinians? Every cab driver in Amman is convinced that the US is run by the Israeli lobby that they believe permeates all aspects of our society. When I try to argue this, events keep happening in the US that supports this point of view. As a New Yorker I am appalled by Charles Schummer's blind support of Israel; watching what happened in Gaza from Amman I am more fearful of the Israelis than Osama bin Laden here. Visiting my family in Israel was a shocking experience -hearing their bigoted views about ARabs and being in a place where everyone carries a gun and is quite willing to use it. I even got bit by a dog who charged out at me attacking me as I walked down a street enjoying the flowers growing on the barbed wire that protects the Israelis from the impovrished Palestinians living in tents and shacks on the other side. It is very embarassing to be an American in Amman. Challenging the Israeli lobby is difficult if not impossible since no one thinks it exists.

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LABob
Posted by: altmart on Mar 21, 2009 6:08 AM   
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Questions to be asked of our gutless politicians?
Why aren't you asking these questions??

- When will the Israeli lobby be chopped down to the size it deserves? - No more, no less.

- When will the indicted AIPAC spies go on trial? It's been 3 years since Franklin went to jail.

- What was the involvement of Libby, Feith , and Wurmser in Cheney's hit squads? - If any?

- Shouldn't Cheney be subject to a criminal investigation(s)? -- as well as Libby, Wurmser Feith and Wolfowitz.

- It was shameful the way Chas. Freeman's appointment to Intelligence was blocked by the lobby. What was the problem??- Too objective?

- Netanyahu can be expected to do all the wrong things in terms of implementing the Geneva Accords as the end point of the Peace process. Why shouldn't we cut off aid to Israel or at least put them on quarterly payments (as all others nations receiving foreign aid are) subject State Dept review?

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» RE: LABob Posted by: iris89
There is NOTHING so tedious as a Zionist Apologist masquerading as a Christian
Posted by: xbj on Mar 21, 2009 9:16 AM   
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And nothing so abhorrent to G-d.

Word to the wise.

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The Pro-Palestinanian Fanatics Cry For More Open Borders But With Those Who Lust For Violence This W
Posted by: iris89 on Apr 3, 2009 7:28 AM   
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The Pro-Palestinanian Fanatics Cry For More Open Borders But With Those Who Lust For Violence This Would be Ridiculas

Many Palestinians want more open borders with Israel and a free flow of goods and people, but while these seems reasonable to many who forget that many in Islam are taught hate, greed, and a lust for violence by their religious leaders such as Sheik Osama bin Ladin, and many, many others. Where hate, greed, and a lust for violence prevail, strict border controls are necessary, and in Israel’s case they havn’t been strong enough.

A recent event reported in the Los Angeles Times well illustrates this as follows:

Israeli teen killed in West Bank attack, By Richard Boudreaux

“A Palestinian enters a West Bank settlement and attacks two boys with a pickax, killing a 13-year-old. Settler groups and right-wing parties demand more restrictions on Palestinians.
Reporting from Jerusalem -- A Palestinian man slipped into a West Bank settlement with a pickax Thursday and killed an Israeli teenager, …
The attack Thursday in the militant Jewish settlement of Bat Ayin prompted warnings from settler groups and right-wing politicians that any concessions such as lifting roadblocks, easing travel restrictions and halting settlement expansion would amount to surrender to the enemy.

"When you respond forgivingly and ease restrictions, you do not get results," said David Rotem, a member of parliament with Israel Is Our Home, the ultranationalist party led by Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman. "What you get is terror rearing its head."
Now why is this? Let’s look at the reason.
"Did you know that 90-95% of the conflicts in the world today are Muslims fighting non-muslims or each other? " [source - The Weekend Australian, November 26-27, 2005 AD]"

To wit, many Muslims love hate, greed, and a lust for violence.

The solution, dissolve this false religion and rid the earth of at least 90% of the violence. But of course the politicians will not do what is needed since as Jeremiah 10:23 says, "O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps." (Authorized King James Bible; AV). To read detailed information, go to the following article:

[go to] When Should A Religion Be Dissolved In The Interest Of World Peace?

Which can be found at,

http://religioustruths.proboards59.com/

An Educational Referral Forum under the sub-heading, ' ISLAM THE SOURCE OF MOST VIOLENCE

Along with many other useful articles.

Iris89

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