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Hey Obama, Downsize This: 25% Slash for Defense Spending Needed Now

With so many social programs desperately in need of better funding, progressive leaders are making a push to go after Pentagon budgets.
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As President Obama released his budget outline for fiscal year 2010 on Thursday, recommending about $664 billion in defense funding, a determined group of progressive Congress members and activists pushed for a marked change in the way the US spends those dollars. Led by Rep. Barney Frank, the group advocates a 25 percent cut in military spending, to be accomplished by eliminating wasteful and obsolete programs, reducing active nuclear warheads and withdrawing from Iraq in an efficient and timely manner.

The Obama administration's budget allocates $534 billion in general defense funds for fiscal year (FY) 2010: an inflation-adjusted increase of about 2.1 percent over the amount appropriated by Congress last year, according to an analysis by Travis Sharp at the Center for Arms Control and Nonproliferation. It's a smaller increase than previous years have seen, according to Sharp, but nevertheless continues the trend of a swelling defense budget. An additional $130 billion is requested for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Obama's budget outline excludes funding for nuclear weapons and non-Defense Department military costs which, according to Sharp's analysis, totaled around $23 billion for FY 2009.

Military spending has more than doubled in the past eight years; it now tops $700 billion and sucks up about 40 percent of US tax dollars. According to Frank, bloated defense funding is crowding out domestic priorities.

"The logic is irrefutable," Frank said at a forum on Wednesday, where he discussed his proposal to chop off a quarter of the defense budget. "If we are not able to get military spending under control, if we are not able to break the trend that's now there, we will not be able to respond to important domestic needs."

Frank was joined by Congress members Barbara Lee, Keith Ellison, Dennis Kucinich and Lynn Woolsey at Wednesday's meeting. Lee emphasized the benefits of reducing military spending, including more money for education, health care and homeland security. She also pointed to some obvious targets to slash: stale Cold War-era programs that somehow never made it to the chopping block.

"It has been eighteen years since the collapse of the Soviet Union," Lee said in a statement. "I find it mind-boggling and inexcusable that nearly two decades later, the Pentagon continues to waste tens of billions of dollars buying outdated, Cold War-era weaponry for a national security threat that no longer exists."

The flood of dollars toward obsolete systems is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to cutting weapons purchases, according to Craig Jennings, federal fiscal policy analyst with the nonprofit OMB Watch. Substantially reducing the Pentagon budget will necessitate a meaty cost-benefit analysis, discarding appropriations that just aren't worth it.

"Congress needs to ask the critical question, 'Are defense expenditures meeting the needs of the nation?'" Jennings told Truthout. "In other words, does the F-22 make us so much safer from present-day threats like al-Qaeda that it's worth expending tens of billions of dollars on? Do we really need $4 billion stealth naval destroyers? What is more ultimately harmful to the health of the nation: 46 million people without health insurance or the threat of intercontinental ballistic missile launches from North Korea? These are questions that Congress - Democratic and Republican - have consistently failed to pose. While Frank's specific plan may not be the right solution, the very fact that he's broaching the taboo subject of substantial cuts to military spending is very encouraging."

Just trimming the fat - cutting obsolete programs, reducing nuclear arsenals and eliminating wasteful spending - would save more than $60 billion, according to Erik Leaver, policy outreach director for Foreign Policy in Focus.

Also, withdrawing from Iraq could substantially reduce the defense budget. Obama has said that the withdrawal will help to curb the deficit, and despite a troop build-up in Afghanistan, he's probably right, according to Jennings, who estimates that the number of troops in Afghanistan will be about one third of the number currently in Iraq.

However, withdrawal has its costs, too. Procurement and maintenance costs for equipment will continue as long as some troops remain in Iraq, and transporting soldiers and equipment home will add to the tab, according to Leaver. He also notes that the transportation of supplies is more expensive in Afghanistan than in Iraq.

Moreover, any plan to reduce the defense budget must take into account President Obama's plans to expand the Army and Marines by nearly 100,000 troops. Growing the military not only increases short-term spending, but it racks up long-term veteran-related costs. According to Leaver, an enlarged military creates a "hidden cost" as well.


Maya Schenwar is a Chicago-based freelance writer and an editor for Publications International.
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Ivan Eland's "The Empire Has No Clothes."
Posted by: shill on Mar 2, 2009 3:35 AM   
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In Libertarian Ivan Eland's book, "The Empire Has No Clothes," he says the defense budget could be cut by 50% if all spending on useless Cold War weapons was eliminated AND we'd STILL have plenty of DEFENSE for OUR country. Right now we spend more money on so called "defense" than the next 13 countries in the world who spend money on a defense budget COMBINED!! Eland points out that much of the spending is to defend other countries that are rich enought to defend themselves. This is so we can influence their policies. It's one of the reasons the U.S. is hated by many people today. And despite us spending our $$ for defense of these other countries, these other countries won't even open their trade to us in return. It's the military-industrial complex President Eisenhower warned us about at work. And for WHAT? (besides lots of jobs in the defense industry and an ever growing defense budget so the military can have all the toys they want, whether they are actually
efficient or NOT!!!.)

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OBAMA is laughing LOUD??
Posted by: flymulla on Mar 2, 2009 3:54 AM   
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Hey Obama, Downsize This: 25% Slash for Defense Spending Needed Now
Obama was with Mr. Brown and this is what we read. Obama must be having a good laugh. .European Union leaders decline to bail out Eastern Europe
The mystery deepens as the EU refuses the very ones that cerate the big EU. Sound like the phrase, “EAT in the plate you spit”. We talk of globalization and we want all to join hands in the global warming. This is all a joke and farce. No one is interested in any other economy then self. This is the proof. Then we complain of the demonstrations in the Economic Forums and ask, “Why are the B…….. demonstrating?
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla

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Need? Or want?
Posted by: taxidriver on Mar 2, 2009 5:20 AM   
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Do we really "need" the F-22 and other gold-plated weapons systems? Or do we simply "want" them?

Think of the DoD as the American consumer writ large. For the last 20+ years, the DoD has been living large, just like the average consumer.

Does the DoD want to tighten its belt? Of course not! You have to force it to, but good luck at that, because the DoD knows how to protect its turf.

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The defense budget is obscene,
Posted by: lewb on Mar 2, 2009 6:50 AM   
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the number 534billion is almost incomprehensible it's so large. It's a million,534000 times. Think of how many people could be helped with that kind of money.Look at all the problems we have and all the people in trouble or soon to be in trouble. The military just throws money around like confetti.They have no limits on how much they waste. The military contribution to our economic welfare is not worth the money allocated to them. I know there are millions of people with better ideas for this money than the military.

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more bang for the buck by funding domestic spending
Posted by: alturn on Mar 2, 2009 8:02 AM   
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As a general rule, jobs created by the military pay far better than social service or education jobs. Defense also creates great profits that go to the wealth class. So if we divert money from defense to creating jobs that improve the lives of ordinary Americans we can create more than twice as many jobs, albeit at $35-60,000 per year than the significant amount of $120,000 plus per year jobs that exist in the military and the multitude of military subcontractors. And we can help halt a flow of riches into a priveleged class who finds war in their best interests.

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NWO, One World Government?
Posted by: linecrosser on Mar 2, 2009 10:50 AM   
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When we reach that magical point where there is only one world government, will there still be a need for a military, or Dept. of Defense and budget?
Unfortunately, I believe what will happen is that the military will just put on badges and become the real world police. If we don't put an end to all the stupid stuff going on we'll all be doomed to live as slaves to the Powers that Be. God help us.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:43 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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Deep Apologies for the Double Posts...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:45 PM   
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I got error responses everytime I posted !

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US "defense" budget is three times too large, easily
Posted by: Garvagh on Mar 2, 2009 5:02 PM   
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Bravo! A 25% cut to the "defense" budget would just be for starters. The US spends nearly as much on armaments as the rest of the world combined. This is collective insanity, and reflects the entrenched power of the arms manufacturers and their lawyers, lobbyists, paid politicians and generals, their compromised national security commentators, etc.

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Chalmers Johnson on defense spending
Posted by: Defenestrator on Mar 2, 2009 5:11 PM   
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Pentagon and Budget?
Posted by: Andie927 on Mar 3, 2009 4:57 AM   
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Talk about irony, and oxymorons! Please, (from what I recall) the last time someone tried to Audit the Pentagon, They gave up in absolute frustration, with BILLIONS of our tax dollars; "Unaccounted" for. Was it 7 or 9?

Making them USE a Budget, and completing an Audit, (I think for the first time) would be a great start!

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Ivan Eland's "The Empire Has No Clothes."
Posted by: shill on Mar 2, 2009 3:35 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In Libertarian Ivan Eland's book, "The Empire Has No Clothes," he says the defense budget could be cut by 50% if all spending on useless Cold War weapons was eliminated AND we'd STILL have plenty of DEFENSE for OUR country. Right now we spend more money on so called "defense" than the next 13 countries in the world who spend money on a defense budget COMBINED!! Eland points out that much of the spending is to defend other countries that are rich enought to defend themselves. This is so we can influence their policies. It's one of the reasons the U.S. is hated by many people today. And despite us spending our $$ for defense of these other countries, these other countries won't even open their trade to us in return. It's the military-industrial complex President Eisenhower warned us about at work. And for WHAT? (besides lots of jobs in the defense industry and an ever growing defense budget so the military can have all the toys they want, whether they are actually
efficient or NOT!!!.)

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OBAMA is laughing LOUD??
Posted by: flymulla on Mar 2, 2009 3:54 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Hey Obama, Downsize This: 25% Slash for Defense Spending Needed Now
Obama was with Mr. Brown and this is what we read. Obama must be having a good laugh. .European Union leaders decline to bail out Eastern Europe
The mystery deepens as the EU refuses the very ones that cerate the big EU. Sound like the phrase, “EAT in the plate you spit”. We talk of globalization and we want all to join hands in the global warming. This is all a joke and farce. No one is interested in any other economy then self. This is the proof. Then we complain of the demonstrations in the Economic Forums and ask, “Why are the B…….. demonstrating?
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla

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Need? Or want?
Posted by: taxidriver on Mar 2, 2009 5:20 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Do we really "need" the F-22 and other gold-plated weapons systems? Or do we simply "want" them?

Think of the DoD as the American consumer writ large. For the last 20+ years, the DoD has been living large, just like the average consumer.

Does the DoD want to tighten its belt? Of course not! You have to force it to, but good luck at that, because the DoD knows how to protect its turf.

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The defense budget is obscene,
Posted by: lewb on Mar 2, 2009 6:50 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
the number 534billion is almost incomprehensible it's so large. It's a million,534000 times. Think of how many people could be helped with that kind of money.Look at all the problems we have and all the people in trouble or soon to be in trouble. The military just throws money around like confetti.They have no limits on how much they waste. The military contribution to our economic welfare is not worth the money allocated to them. I know there are millions of people with better ideas for this money than the military.

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more bang for the buck by funding domestic spending
Posted by: alturn on Mar 2, 2009 8:02 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As a general rule, jobs created by the military pay far better than social service or education jobs. Defense also creates great profits that go to the wealth class. So if we divert money from defense to creating jobs that improve the lives of ordinary Americans we can create more than twice as many jobs, albeit at $35-60,000 per year than the significant amount of $120,000 plus per year jobs that exist in the military and the multitude of military subcontractors. And we can help halt a flow of riches into a priveleged class who finds war in their best interests.

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NWO, One World Government?
Posted by: linecrosser on Mar 2, 2009 10:50 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
When we reach that magical point where there is only one world government, will there still be a need for a military, or Dept. of Defense and budget?
Unfortunately, I believe what will happen is that the military will just put on badges and become the real world police. If we don't put an end to all the stupid stuff going on we'll all be doomed to live as slaves to the Powers that Be. God help us.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:39 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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25% is a start ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:43 PM   
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With over 700 bases overseas, Cold War military programs, military adventures on every continent and Congressmen and Senators suckling home based defense contractors through outrageous ear marks, 25% is just a start.

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Deep Apologies for the Double Posts...
Posted by: mmckinl on Mar 2, 2009 2:45 PM   
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I got error responses everytime I posted !

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US "defense" budget is three times too large, easily
Posted by: Garvagh on Mar 2, 2009 5:02 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Bravo! A 25% cut to the "defense" budget would just be for starters. The US spends nearly as much on armaments as the rest of the world combined. This is collective insanity, and reflects the entrenched power of the arms manufacturers and their lawyers, lobbyists, paid politicians and generals, their compromised national security commentators, etc.

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Chalmers Johnson on defense spending
Posted by: Defenestrator on Mar 2, 2009 5:11 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

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Pentagon and Budget?
Posted by: Andie927 on Mar 3, 2009 4:57 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Talk about irony, and oxymorons! Please, (from what I recall) the last time someone tried to Audit the Pentagon, They gave up in absolute frustration, with BILLIONS of our tax dollars; "Unaccounted" for. Was it 7 or 9?

Making them USE a Budget, and completing an Audit, (I think for the first time) would be a great start!

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