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The Case That Wars Fuel U.S. Economic Booms

By Mark Ames, AlterNet. Posted February 24, 2009.


The Republicans are censoring their own anti-New Deal logic.

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In the great debate about the stimulus package -- which, underneath all the cant is really nothing more than a debate about how America's scarce wealth should be divided --  one of the right wing's favorite mantras was their claim that the New Deal did nothing to end the Depression. Instead, they argue, it was World War Two that ended the Depression.

So far, the liberals' counterargument is to throw out a bunch of statistics arguing that the New Deal did work. Both sides take their argument to the real of hypothetical realities: either the '30s could have been worse without the New Deal (liberals argue) or the 30s would have been better off without the New Deal (right-wingers argue). But let's stop and consider the Republican right wing's argument about World War Two's effect on its own merits: if it really was the war that pulled America out of the Depression, that is hardly an argument in favor of endless tax cuts and small government. The wartime economy was the very opposite of the Adam Smith model of free trade and minimal government interference -- it was, instead, New Deal economics to the tenth power, in which the government managed and controlled just about every single facet of the citizenry's lives. And then of course there's the war's outcome: America emerged victorious and largely unscathed with comparatively little cost in lives compared to the war's other major participants, while all of America's global competitors essentially committed mass suicide and were left prostrate at our militarized feet.

The Republican right unintentionally raised a very serious issue, but no one seems to want to call them on it, not even their own supporters. The can of worms they've opened leads to this: what if America's booms and busts are tied not to monetary policy, taxation levels or government regulation, but rather to our success or failure as an imperialist war machine? What if our wealth is a consequence of our ability to plunder the world's wealth, often by default thanks to our competitors' suicidal behavior?

Consider this very simple, surface chronology of the past 100 years (and why not stick with the surface -- after all economics, despite all of its complex statistical mathematics, has turned out to be little more than glorified astrology):

1914-1918: World War I. America ends up on the winning side at comparative little cost in American lives, no destruction to the homeland or to our economy. Whereas America's European competitors commit mass suicide both demographically and economically. This is followed by:

1920-1929: One of the greatest boom decades in American history. No great wars, no new mass suicide by competitors. That is, nothing new to plunder. This leads to:

1929-1939: The Great Depression. No new wars, no new imperial expansion, and with it, feeble economic expansion. This is followed by:

1939-1945: World War II. America ends up on the winning side at comparative little cost in American lives, no damage to the American homeland. America's European and Asian competitors commit mass suicide both demographically and economically. Global markets (minus Communist world) are America's for the taking. Which leads to:

1945-1960: American economic boom. America's economy makes up half of the world's GDP in 1950, and rides its biggest sustained boom in U.S. history, including an unprecedented rise in living standards.

1945-1960: French and British empires, already weakened competitors of America's empire, decline and collapse for good, allowing the American empire to expand further by filling the vacuum. America fights Korean War 1950-52; wisely halts it to a draw after just 2 years, meaning little net gain or loss. Communist empire expands -- communist countries by nature are uncompetitive against the U.S. economically, except inasmuch as they deny markets to U.S. goods and keep the empire in check. This leads to:


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Mark Ames is editor of the Moscow English alt weekly, the eXile. He is the author of Going Postal: Rage, Murder and Rebellion: From Reagan's Workplaces to Clinton's Columbine and Beyond.

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We did not WIN in Afghanistan
Posted by: Zimbly on Feb 24, 2009 10:38 PM   
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This is a bold faced lie. We did not win either in Iraq or Afghanistan.
The Soviets made the exactly proclamations and what happened to them.
The war will be won once really investigate the "REAL REASONS" for going to war and that my friend is for OIL and Hegemony.
The planers mastermind by the way is still very much in the public domain, thats Zbigniew Brezinski, author of the "The Grand ChessBoard"

Lyndon Johson also had a mandate to help the poor and bring about huge social reforms, look at what happened to him. The economic decline in the 70's was a direct result of 15 years of squandering American lives and treasure.
The current "depression" is partly the war , but even more sinister forces are at work, its a deliberate down turn created by these bankers and "the other 10 members" of the Federal Reserve, creating "Balloon Money", money out of thin air and then dropping this "fake money" into the real economy .

Only the dismantling of the Federal Reserve, the repealing of the 1913 "Federal Reserve Act" and the dismantling of the MIC..Military Industrial Complex..or as Truman really wanted to say, Military Industrial Congressional Complex. Because you see, Congress is a "co-conspirator" in this mess as well, it always has been.

Now here is the problem, JFK was taking us down a very similar path, but as we all know that process was quickly aborted.

So we have very, very serious problem here, for Obama to create "real reform" he has to eventually tackle the above mentioned issues.
If he does do that or its is perceived by those who hold the "REAL POWER"..Obama will have his Dealy Plaza.


Whats been going on is nothing less than criminal, why there isn't a Revolution going on right now? This just shows us that things haven't gotten uncomfortable enough. When the time ripens..the "We the People" will fight back and to quote Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto..."I am afraid all we have accomplished is to wake a Giant from his sleep and fill him with terrible resolve."

The criminals who are cynically doing this are doing what the Japanese did in WW2, they are underestimating the American People and will eventually , in time , fail.

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» There are winners ... Posted by: Kahoneez
» RE: We did not WIN in Afghanistan Posted by: raiders757
Oikos and Polis, Nomos, the Law
Posted by: talkville on Feb 25, 2009 2:17 AM   
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"Economics is but war by other means" -- when they don't want to trade, make them trade; when they don't want to buy, make them buy. If they have what we need or what we want, seduce them, trick them, or just plain take it.

" The 'American Way of Life' is not negotiable" -- George Herbert Walker Bush.

.... of course, this way of life includes that of the homeless, that of the destitute, that of the 4-job working family... . We all know that GHW Bush and members of his family each "made it" by pulling themselves right on up by their own boot-straps in that "way of life" of all of us!!

Capital has to expand, to 'grow'; and just look at all those products of Labor sitting in DoD hangars and warehouses and bases all over the world!! They were produced to destroy, and they were produced for destruction (thus creating jobs and more labor to manufacture more).

And the proposition put forward by Pres. Obama et. al. is not how to we overcome the rule of Capital and the private ownership of the means of production?, but: Save Capitalism at any cost! I.e.: a "Private-Public Partnership" ... or: a Corporate and Corporatized State, or: the Fascist way... .

In any case, the People's opinion began and ended with voting in November; in that regard, it's only a question of Management and Administration buttressed by the already laid down Security and Police infrastructure.

War and aggression are on the table. If the neo-liberal Creed fails, the Imperial Creed will take over; and act.

And there'll be lots and lots of jobs!!

Naked or dressed, it is capital accumulation and not life that will decide.

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Republicans? WHAT Republicans?
Posted by: -matti on Feb 25, 2009 4:00 AM   
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Dems now hold the Presidency -with overwhelming popular mandate-, the House of Representatives -with a strong Majority-, and the Senate -with a clear "filibuster-rules-setting" Majority of 57-41 (with two allied Independents).

So why in HELL are we still hearing whining about what "Republicans" want or do?!?

In what other nation would we believe that a Majority Government's hands were tied by the THEORETICAL actions of ONE Senator on the opposition side, and STILL call that nation a "democracy" or "republic"?!?

This only works in the mythical Corporatist realm of TV America.

And it's pathetic to see Alternet perpetuating this notion.

Ugh. Ugh. Triple Ugh.

-matti.

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» RE: Republicans? WHAT Republicans? Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» You need a civics lesson. Posted by: SteveO
» or a history lesson Posted by: Rolomax
tebmtn
Posted by: tebmtn on Feb 25, 2009 4:50 AM   
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Maybe there is another explanation: the tax code.

Observe: When tax rates rise, especially on the rich, prosperity follows. In the '50s and '60s the top marginal rate was 90% or better, and we had prosperity.

But when Nixon took off Johnson's surtax, we had a couple of recessions. When Reagan cut the taxes on his rich comrades, we went into a recession. As soon as Bush II got his tax cut through a recession hit, and we still don't have as many people working full-time as we did in 2000.

Massive government spending accompanied by realistic tax rates on the rich, not tax cuts, is what gets the economy moving and deficits reduced in the long run.

I submit it was the spending on the wars and not the imperialism of the same that got us the prosperity you speak of. Until the Nixon phase of Vietnam, then Afghanistan and Iraq, these wars were accompanied by tax hikes, and prosperity followed.

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» RE: tebmtn Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
Yes, I have come across die-hard social "conservative" self-righteous lunatics who madly believe
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 25, 2009 6:57 AM   
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that only war spending drives up the "economy" and somehow pulled us out of the Great Depression. The sad fact is that these same "Joe the Plumber" rightwingers even "worship" Wall $treet as a "God" and will sometimes even criticize FDR as a "socialist" who was persecuting Wall $treet.

We the people need to stop this madness of more war spending and more tax cuts, tax loopholes, and other financial giveaways to the wealthy and corporate elite that is bleeding America to DEATH. It is time to get to work by focusing on your local elections. YES, LOCAL ELECTIONS. That is how "conservatives" especially the NRA built their success. From local to state to federal and now international, they assimilated on people preferences and emotions and built their crusade on the road to SELLING OUT and now it is high time we the people countered this. When local and state level turnout goes up we win.

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» Did you read the article? Posted by: 2dogarage
sort of agree
Posted by: jstepp590 on Feb 25, 2009 7:39 AM   
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I sort of agree, but with a major revision.

America is a country, culture and economy built on expansion and dominating frontiers. When these vacuums opened due to the wars, we were well suited and positioned to moving in and taking over. This brought us wealth and growth as all our competitors were no longer there to stop us. We simply took their market share.

It isn't war that we thrive on. The last few wars just created the conditions that America happens to thrive in.

In order to bring our country back to that happy place, we need new borders and frontiers to expand into. Places where hard work and planning can create new wealth. The government is the entity that makes those frontiers accessible.

www.permanent.com

Without those borders to expand to, and with the limited resources to be had on this planet to grow all these countries, we run a real risk of armed conflict. As it has been stated many times by someone pretty smart, wars are caused by overpopulation and resources. Look around, the whole world fits that scenario right now!

We have two choices. Scrap the free market economy and go to a system that hordes resources, meaning slow growth and stagnation, or make the move off this planet to get the resources all countries and peoples need to grow. I do not see any other choice short of something so catastrophic that it lowers our population by 2/3's.

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The challenge is that today the world is one
Posted by: alturn on Feb 25, 2009 7:57 AM   
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Plundering other countries and disadvantaged classes of people has been historically a recipe for economic success for the victor. Yet the times have changed and those in these comments who have indicated the challenge now is economic disparity between peoples are on the mark.

We are now in a time that all the world's people matter, and wreaking havoc on some to gain a relative short term economic prosperity is of the past. It is far better to measure prosperity in non-monetary factors such as health, the essential beauty of the life lived and growth of awareness than the old terms. And have that measurement be based on the lot of every person in the world, not how much power or stuff one country has selfishly gained for itself.

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Another "d'uh" essay today.
Posted by: sausage on Feb 25, 2009 8:02 AM   
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Well, d'uh, wars kept the United States prosperous for the past sixty year.

Why do you think the Pentagon has had an unrestricted budget since 1948?

Oh, and America going to war to raise itself out of economic depression started waaaaaaaaaaay before out entry into World War II and the Cold War.

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If We Can Find Money For Killing
Posted by: harpy on Feb 25, 2009 8:35 AM   
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we can find money for healing. Why can't we take the money spent in unprovoked war and build schools and hospitals and pay for healthcare and education for all instead of spending billions blowing up other countries and causing our own people to be killed, maimed, and ruined for life? The effect would be much better. Don't scream socialism - what else is war? Taking our money to kill is socialist, yet there are so many who would rather see their neighbor die than be able to go to the doctor or be well. This is so backward.

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The New Deal
Posted by: US Citizen on Feb 25, 2009 9:20 AM   
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The New Deal strengthened the United States enough after the Great Depression to allow the United States to win World War II. It also gave the ordinary people of the United States the spirit and the confidence to win the war.

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War spending brings artificial boom, then bust follows
Posted by: Garvagh on Feb 25, 2009 10:41 AM   
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A severe recession, or depression, followed on the heels of World War I.

Squandering trillions of taxpayer dollars on unnecessary armaments and wars is the path to perdition. The sheer idiocy of spending as much money on weapons as the rest of the world combined, ought to be only too obvious. Except to the prostitute politicians, generals, admirals, lawyers, lobbyists, etc. with their snouts in the trough.

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I Find The Headline To This Article Completely Obscene - Particularly On a "Liberal" Website
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 25, 2009 11:45 AM   
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"The Case That Wars Fuel U.S. Economic Booms"

Doesn't The Editor realise that is the subliminal message.

Do you think most people will read and understand the article - I haven't cos the headline was a complete turn off

It says to me

"Lets go to War"

What a Wanker

Tony

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I've dealt with this topic before. War and military spending no longer stimulate the US economy.
Posted by: yellow on Feb 25, 2009 6:05 PM   
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This is why financialization has become such a major trend. The profits of US financial corporations are 46% of total corporate profits today. In the mid-1950s, US military spending peaked at 60% of the federal budget and 15.5% of the US GDP. It gradually declined until now, despite large absolute numbers spent, total military spending, excluding the two wars, total about 5% of the GDP and 18% of the federal budget. If the wars are included these figures rise significantly yet the mitigating factor is that too much of the money is spent overseas to stimulate the US domestic economy. In addition, the war production behind the spending is much more capital intensive than it was 50 years ago making far fewer jobs. Finally, the current level of manpower deployment for the US military is far less than it was 50 years ago meaning that a greater number of men and women will remain in the domestic US workforce seeking employment.

The military can not provide the kind of economic stimulus that we need. Studies have shown that the employment and spending multipliers for military investment is actually lower than public investment in other areas such as infrastructure, mass transit, renewable energy and entitlement spending. Military spending is thus an opportunity cost and should not be chosen over other options for job creation.

Another problem with military spending is that it can be highly inflationary given that it creates a large and sudden spending surge in the economy without any offsetting production of goods and services to balance it out. If the inflationary pressures are sufficiently severe, upward pressure on interest rates could slow the economy and cost jobs.

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Otto
Posted by: otto on Feb 26, 2009 6:04 AM   
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Great article! I've been wondering about it and disagreeing with the idea that WWII was what saved us (and I was shocked an disappointed to read Krugman saying that!) My dad gave up a journalism career to work at Fords in Detroit in the 30's, and I was able to see how life was improving even before the war. I recall WPA workers paving our street as a kid, etc., and I'm sure these projects made a big difference. My dad was strongly anti-Communist, yet he admitted that it was inviting when things were at their worst in the depression.

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