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Could a Sudden Collapse of Mexico Be Obama's Surprise Foreign Policy Challenge?

By Bill Weinberg, AlterNet. Posted February 19, 2009.


Free-trade politics and the drug war created a social crisis in Mexico, and a militarized response to it may push events to an explosion.

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A year-end report by the Pentagon's Joint Forces Command names two countries as likely candidates for a "rapid and sudden collapse" -- Pakistan and Mexico.

The report, named "JOE 2008" (for Joint Operating Environment), states:

"In terms of worse-case scenarios for the Joint Force, and indeed the world, two large and important states bear consideration for a rapid and sudden collapse: Pakistan and Mexico. The Mexican possibility may seem less likely, but the government, its politicians, police and judicial infrastructure are all under sustained assault and press by criminal gangs and drug cartels. How that internal conflict turns out over the next several years will have a major impact on the stability of the Mexican state."

Mexican officials were quick to deny the ominous claim. Exterior Secretary Patricia Espinosa told reporters that the fast-escalating violence mostly affects the narco gangs themselves, and "Mexico is not a failed state."

Enrique Hubbard Urrea, Mexico's consul general in Dallas, actually boasted improvement, asserting that the government has won the war against the drug cartels in certain areas, such as Nuevo Laredo -- one of the border cities that has been the scene of recent nightmarish violence.

But U.S. political figures were also quick to react -- using the Pentagon's lurid findings to argue for increased military aid to Mexico. As President-elect Barack Obama met in Washington with Mexican President Felipe Calderon on Jan. 12, the former U.S. drug czar, retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey, just back from a meeting in Mexico of the International Forum of Intelligence and Security Specialists, told a Washington press conference: "Mexico is on the edge of the abyss -- it could become a narco state in the coming decade." He praised Calderon, who he said has "launched a serious attempt to reclaim the rule of law from the chaos of the drug cartels." The International Forum of Intelligence and Security Specialists is an advisory body to Mexican federal law enforcement.

Also weighing in was Joel Kurtzman, senior fellow at the Milken Institute, who warned in a Wall Street Journal editorial: "It may only be a matter of time before the drug war spills across the border and into the U.S." He hailed Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff for his "plan to 'surge' civilian, and possibly, military law-enforcement personnel to the border should that be necessary…" He also lauded Calderon's deployment of 45,000 military troops to fight the drug cartels -- but raised the possibility of a tide of refugees flooding the U.S. Southwest. "Unless the violence can be reversed, the U.S. can anticipate that the flow across the border will continue."

Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., joined the chorus. On Jan. 11, the day before Calderon arrived in Washington, Gingrich told ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos: "There is a war under way in Mexico. More people were killed in Mexico in 2008 than were killed in Iraq. It is grossly undercovered by the American media. It's is on our border. It has the potential to extend into our country side. … The illegal narcotics teams in Mexico are in a direct civil war with the government in which they are killing the police, killing judges, killing the army ... [I'm] surprised that no one in the American system is looking at it very much. It's a very serious problem."

Gingrich doesn't have his facts quite right. The Iraq Body Count Web site puts the number of just Iraqi civilian deaths last year at a maximum of 9,028 (compared to 24,295 in 2007). The Mexican daily El Universal reports that according to its tally, there were 5,612 killings related to organized crime in Mexico last year -- more than double the 2007 figure, and the highest since it started keeping track four years ago.

Yet even if Gingrich is exaggerating, and the Pentagon is paranoid, there is definitely cause for concern. The violence -- at its worst in the border cities of Juarez and Tijuana -- is reaching spectacular levels redolent of Colombia.

In Juarez (and elsewhere across Mexico), severed heads are left outside police stations in chilling numbers; mutilated, decapitated corpses left outside schools and shopping centers -- or hanging from overpasses as a warning to the populace.


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Bill Weinberg is editor of the electronic monthly World War 4 Report and author of Homage to Chiapas: The New Indigenous Struggles in Mexico (Verso, 2000).

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The is so yesterday...
Posted by: jack alexander on Feb 19, 2009 5:00 PM   
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Obviously the author wants to paint Mexico as a country that can't take care of itself and is on the brink of anarchy. This would be an instrument of propaganda in my eyes.

Nothing could be further from the truth. The U.S. is the country that is on the brink of financial ruin and subsequently chaos.

With Mexico being the 3rd largest supplier of oil to the U.S. and having found this reserve:

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/finanzas/69237.html

recently announced. For those who don't read Spanish is says that they now have a reserve half the size of the Saudis. It's now believed to be a huge find that would extend oil availability to 2080 at our present levels of consumption.

They own us. They will do business as they have for centuries. And will continue to have no national debt like we have and plenty of oil and other goods to sell to us.

I personally don't think NAFTA has harmed Mexico in anyway, but has empowered them over the U.S. and Canada.

What we need to do is legalize drugs, stop interfering in the 'trade' which is a taxable business that could have an effect on our national debt (which is obscenely high). And we need to stop interfering in their government as we are in other countries.

If we are a capitalist country is is time for US to act like it and practice business as it presents itself to US and not as we demand it should be elsewhere.

People in glass houses....

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» RE: The is so yesterday... Posted by: gustavoc
Socialize drugs
Posted by: Gaubladt on Feb 19, 2009 5:24 PM   
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I believe that the conflict between the state and drug distributors south of the border should be addressed economically. We need to socialize drug distribution here in the United States. If the government were to make heroine, cocaine, and marijuana available at no cost to any adult willing to register as a drug dependant, it would virtually destroy the industry in illegal drugs.
Provisions could be made to discourage the sharing of drugs with non-dependants and minors. Also, provisions could be made to reduce the risk of injury in the case of drug overdose. Relatively discrete clinics could be set up at distribution sites for people who are willing to consider breaking their habit: There could be 2 clinics, side by side: one for rehab, and one for shooting up, smoking, and snorting.
Implementing such a program would have an immediate effect on the conflict in Mexico. After all, an abundance of cash is a drug cartel's most formidable weapon. Wars are much more difficult to fight without money.
The recent agreement between the Taliban and Pakistan regarding Sharia Law could be another case in point. The tithe that the Taliban extract from the transport of opium might have had a profound effect on the formulation of that agreement. Also, an agreement between the Taliban and a nuclear power may not bode well for civilians here in the Unites States.
An arguement could be made for growing opium en masse and distrubuting it carefully to the world market, just to reduce the possibility that the Taliban might purchase nuclear bombs from the Pakistan military and detonate some in our neighborhood.

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I love the zero-sum thinking
Posted by: Bill Weinberg on Feb 19, 2009 9:29 PM   
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You really think Mexico's biggest trading partner by far (i.e. the US) could "collapse" without Mexico being dragged down with it? Get serious.

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Drug War Success Metric "Creating chaos and instability"
Posted by: aahpat on Feb 20, 2009 12:33 PM   
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Democratic institutions of regulation, licensing and taxation can quickly bring an end to the narco markets anarchy that the free world is experiencing today. But drug war supporters 'just say no'.

For years the U.S. government has known that the $ 320-billion annual global black market for intoxicant drugs is a primary funding source for much of the stateless terrorism and criminal chaos inflicting the free world. In fact, many in the drug war's leadership actually point to escalating violence as a sign of success in the war on drugs. Pressure on the gangsters by governments causes turf wars and market share fights and this is good, according to the government as it turns a blind eye to the death and destruction reeked upon innocents caught in the cross fire.

Complete essay: Drug War Success Metric "Creating chaos and instability"

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More reasons to secure the border
Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars on Feb 21, 2009 3:59 AM   
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really, people need jobs, so keep building the fence

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Mexico run by drug lords...As intended
Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Feb 21, 2009 4:07 AM   
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Legalize all drugs immediately... Anyone who objects will be labeled a traitor and a $trillion funder of terrorist organizations. These traitors and terrorist sympathizers will be sent to Gitmo for political re-education

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At Last
Posted by: edgar1 on Feb 21, 2009 4:52 AM   
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A viable use for US nuclear weapons.

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» Urban legend? Posted by: westomoon
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So we're reducing the Border Patrol presence along the Mexican border?
Posted by: westomoon on Feb 21, 2009 5:11 AM   
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There's an odd counterpoint to this story, which is playing out along the whole northern border of the US.

As I was reading it, I was contemplating what's been going on where I live, on a maritime border with Canada. The Border Patrol, under guise of the "War on Terror", has been relocating its staff resources from the Mexican border to the Canadian one. The Bush administration several years ago also called for the militarization of the border with Canada, so northern outposts of the Coast Guard and the Border Patrol have been getting increasingly fancy weaponry.

I live near a tiny city in a rural county of Washington, 20-odd miles by water from the southern shore of Vancouver Island, on a peninsula with few and rather rickety connections to the main body of the US. There's not much crime here, though we are part of the rural meth epidemic. A privately-owned ferry runs between here and Victoria, BC (a small, quiet Canadian city on an island), and there's a tiny, propeller-only airport.

The Border Patrol presence here is suddenly six times larger than it was two years ago and still growing, and there are plans to build a "detention facility" here as well. The peculiar thing is that the BP is not increasing security on the few ports of entry here, but is instead running road checkpoints and stopping buses to make everyone prove their citizenship. So far, it seems our large new Canadian-border presence has been reassigned here from the Mexican border apparently to arrest legal and illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America, and "cut crime in border towns", which so far has mostly consisted of picking up a couple of US citizens with minor outstanding warrants and arresting one disabled vet for having a small stash of medical marijuana -- even though he was also carrying his prescription for it (recognized by WA State, but not the Feds). In other words, it's here -- in force -- to fix what wasn't, by any measure, broken.

It has already felt surreal to be living through this sudden attempt to impose a police state on a quiet, isolated, and very northern little backwater town. Reading that Mexico's slow simmer of chaos is approaching a full rolling boil which may spill across our southern border felt even stranger. With things coming to a dangerous head in Mexico, why would the Bush people have started pulling its border agents away from our Mexican border to address a nonexistent problem on the border with quiet, unchaotic Canada??

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I replied to this story 5 weeks ago on a different web site
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 21, 2009 6:02 AM   
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"This is just a cover the story. The reality is the reverse. Mexico has already invaded the US - which is close to becoming a "failed state".

In fact millions of Mexicans already live in the failed state of California

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/ la-me-budget17-2009jan17,0,4472460.story?page=1

Extract


California controller to suspend tax refunds, welfare checks, student grants
John Chiang announces that his office will suspend $3.7 billion in payments owed to Californians starting Feb. 1, because with no budget in place the state lacks sufficient cash to pay its bills.
By Evan Halper and Patrick McGreevy
January 17, 2009
Reporting from Sacramento -- The state will suspend tax refunds, welfare checks, student grants and other payments owed to Californians starting Feb. 1, Controller John Chiang announced Friday."

Whilst my reply was somewhat in jest it does bear elements of truth.

The destabalisation of Mexico looks highly likely to be a direct result of US policy. Mexico is rich in resources and has a very cheap skilled labour force where a great deal of manufacturing of for example electronics is done mainly for the US Market under US Company ownership.

If the US goes bust, it should be the Mexican Government that will be protecting its border from invasion by North Americans.

Whilst Mexico would lose its US Market, in a bankrupcy situation, there would be nothing to prevent Mexico from Nationalising its foreign owned companies and continue to provide product both for its home market and other countries that are still financially viable.

On a long term basis (50-100 years) it seems highly likely that genetically Native Americans will effective reclaim North America and be by far the largest ethnic group.

In the short term don't be surprised if its the US that invades Mexico in a replay of Iraq - particularly if the oil resources are as high as recently released.

The US also want Canada

Welcome to the North American Union and the Amero

Tony

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It's not as challenging as some frame it to be. What's so hard about cancelling "free" trade and
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 21, 2009 6:04 AM   
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stopping our meddling affairs with Mexican elections? The US government and media collaborated with the Mexican media and corrupt government officials to help rightwing pro-immigrant-dumper Calderon steal the election from Obrador who was for trying to improve the economic and environmental conditions in Mexico so that citizens would feel that they have to desperately cross that border. Mexico's collapse is not sudden and has been ongoing just like this country's collapse. Politicians often have a knack of making a mountain out of an ant hill.

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When a state becomes a "failed state"?
Posted by: justAnEgg on Feb 21, 2009 7:03 AM   
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Pervasiveness of corruption is the primary criterion. In Mexico, Colombia, etc., the whole social and political fabric is corrupt, top-down, while in the US, corruption is contained in higher spheres like Congress, banks "too big to fail", corporate management, judiciary, military.

We have a "Corporate State" (Mussolini) where everything is under control. The problem with "failed states" is the corruption beyond state control.

Which makes me think that "failed states" are more democratic than the USA.

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Creating an excuse to invade
Posted by: cactus on Feb 21, 2009 7:19 AM   
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So the US is looking for an excuse for a full invasion of Mexico? Of course we are. Mexico is loaded with exploitable resources; once you kill off all the indigenous people who are so inconveniently subsisting on the land in question. Of course the US has shown that it has no problem exterminating entire peoples. The obvious solution to the so-called drug problem is to legalize drugs, put them under strict FDA control and treat addiction for what it is, an illness. It wouldn't hurt if all of us living here in the land of "have it all and still need to self-medicate" would take a close look at what is wrong with our culture that makes addictions so prevalent; addiction to drugs, food, alcohol, spending, sex, violence, etc.

There is no such thing as an inevitable war. If war comes it will be from failure of human wisdom. --Andrew B. Law

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Source of Problems
Posted by: asjogren on Feb 21, 2009 7:57 AM   
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1) Illegal Immigration from Mexico and further south until last year

NAFTA! When the agriculture provisions of NAFTA began, the small family farmer could not compete with huge mechanized USA agribusiness. Cheap corn - until Ethanol production and the rapid rise of oil prices sent the price skyward. Unfortunately, the family corn farmer in Mexico had already quit production and many had migrated North. Some may remember the Tortilla Crisis about 2 years ago. The tortilla is both a staple AND a symbol in Mexico. Mexico's farm employment has been reduced by 30 percent since the implementation of NAFTA.

Where do you think those 30% went?

2) Migrants leaving USA to return to home country

Mr. Bush stumbled upon an innovative solution to the illegal hiring and illegal immigration problem - just kill the economy in the USA. The migration is no longer northbound. No jobs solved a problem that fences and border control enforcement could not solve.

In fact, the employment situation in the USA is much worse than statistics indicate. Illegal workers who lose their jobs are not included in official statistics.

3) Drug Traffic

This has corrupted the Mexican Government like Prohibition did to governments in the USA 75 years ago. Mr. Calderon has whacked a hornet's nest. Will he be able to subdue the angry hornets?

The level of violence and open confrontation here in Mexico is not sustainable.

Will Mr. Calderon ask for more assistance from Mr. Obama? Will Mr. Obama give more? If Mr. Obama does not, will Mr. Calderon ask Mr. Hugo Chavez for assistance? I suspect Mr. Chavez would give WHATEVER was asked.

Or, will Mr. Calderon declare a truce with the cartels - and tell the USA so solve their own problems?


Or, will we all come to our senses and legalize drugs? Let the Government regulate, distribute, and tax!

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They saw this coming (or planned for it) years ago
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Feb 21, 2009 8:10 AM   
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In 2006, KBR was awarded $385 million to construct detention camps at secret locations in the US. This was reported in the Jan. 24, 2006 edition of the Dow Jones Market Watch or the WSJ, I cannot recall. In the Pentagon's press release, they said part of the purpose of the camps was to handle a "sudden influx of immigrants over the border".

Here's a link to the story.

KBR awarded Homeland Security Contract

Frightening. I thought the Pentagon was just spinning tall tales so one of their war-profiteer babies could leech more money from the taxpayers. Guess I was wrong. They knew this was coming all along.

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The United States of America is the failed state
Posted by: aahpat on Feb 21, 2009 8:31 AM   
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The purpose of Richard Nixon and the Dixie-crats when they created the war on drugs was to neutralize and subvert the electoral empowerment effects of the Voting Rights Act and the 26st Amendment. To restore Jim Crow policies that had been supported on two legs; denial of access to polling places and morals laws disenfranchisement of large populations in targeted communities.

Incarceration and mass disenfranchisement in the United States since 1972 attest to the absolute success of this campaign against American democracy. There has not been a valid federal election in the United States since 1972. All have been tainted, to a significant degree, by criminal disenfranchisement and once liberal politicians moving ever further to the right in fear of being denounced as 'soft on crime'.

The violence and anarchistic chaos fostered by the black markets created by drug prohibition are more than collateral damage of the drug war. They are the success of the drug war.

In the Spring of 2004 the Congressional Research Service released a report summarizing the cause and effect:

'Illicit Drugs and the Terrorist Threat: Causal Links and Implications for Domestic Drug Control Policy'

"The international traffic in illicit drugs contributes to terrorist risk through at least five mechanisms: supplying cash, creating chaos and instability, supporting corruption, providing “cover” and sustaining common infrastructures for illicit activity, and competing for law enforcement and intelligence attention. Of these, cash and chaos are likely to be the two most important."

Insanely, the CRS report concluded:
"American drug policy is not, and should not be, driven entirely, or even primarily, by the need to reduce the contribution of drug abuse to our vulnerability to terrorist action."

Even America's "vulnerability to terrorist action." comes second to continuing this anti-democracy Jim Crow policy.

As long as America supports this Jim Crow Drug War, that employs chaos and instability to defeat pluralistic political empowerment, it is the United States of America that is the failed state. America has been a failed democracy since 1972.

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An owned state versus a failed state
Posted by: PaulK on Feb 21, 2009 9:33 AM   
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The Congo is a failed state. There is no government, only warlords, and their borders shift around.

Mexico is an owned state. It's an arm of certain crooks. The U.S. is --

If we don't want the U.S., Mexico, Columbia or Guatemala to be owned states, then we must have more than one agency in charge of prosecuting the crooks. Start with ten competing agencies. Let only one or two of them at a time in on tips and information. Occasionally two agencies will set up stings that will set up each other's undercover operatives, but mostly they will make life miserable for the mobsters. Having moles planted in 8 out of 10 agencies won't be quite good enough.

Reward with larger budgets the agencies that actually deliver justice, not the prosecution of the innocent, not civil rights violations, and not thumb twiddling.

The Mexican courts, their judges and prosecutors, are being assassinated and could be wiped out. Only under such a painful assault would I recommend a mixture of civilian judges and military tribunals to prosecute clear acts of war, not just planned events but murders actually committed, using deadly weapons. The time period of military prosecution of such organized murders should be directly tied to the number of judges and prosecutors killed per year. No judge killings, no military tribunals.

A campaign of organized, military-style killings of civilians or of soldiers, even by a non-nation which defends no territory, is an act of war. In contrast, two nuns sitting in front of a tank is never an act of war, even if they admit they thought about it beforehand. Writing these rules down counts. "Get it in writing." Some junta down the road will have more problems challenging or changing written laws than changing some Presidential signing order.

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A few points
Posted by: willymack on Feb 21, 2009 10:07 AM   
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First: Who in his right mind would believe ANYTHING The Pentagon tells us? They're proven LIARS, many times over, and are nothing more or less than thugs looking out for corporate America's interests.
Second: Mexico would cease to be a drug state, overnight if drugs were legal here. Of course, the banks which launder the illegal drug money would violently oppose this, and they have crooked politicians and our military on their side.
Third: Just HOW would Mexico "collapse"? Their economy hasn't got that far to go to hit bottom as it is. Their people are USED to poverty, and have adapted to it far better than we ever could.
Fourth: A general housecleaning, both here and in Mexico is sorely needed. Our military is out of control, and must be brought up short. Criminals in our government must be brought to justice, beginning with the bushies, and extending to those currently disgracing their respective offices.

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Corruption Kills Dreams, Lives, a culture and a state.
Posted by: gustavoc on Feb 21, 2009 10:41 AM   
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When Mexicans don't want to visit their relatives on the Mexican side of the border, you know it is bad. It is very bad. The lives and popular culture has been changed by the narcotics trade. The cartels run the show in sections of Mexico. Cartels have infiltrated the highest government security departments in Mexico. Much of this is documented in Proceso.com.mx Something has to be done! Some folks are calling for the death penalty in certain cases. My fear is that if the death penalty will be passed in Mexico, the innocent will be framed due to the corruption in the judicial system. It is a sad state of affairs. We know who is corrupt in Mexico in the highest offices. Why they are not outed is beyond me.
For a view of the situation in Mexico visit Proceso Magazine proceso.com.mx

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legalization, regulation & taxation
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Feb 21, 2009 11:19 AM   
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of drugs is the only viable long-term answer. The. End.

#@!

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¿¿¿¿¡¡¡Sudden!!!???? Collapse of Mexico, PREPARED PERHAPS MORE THAN 29 YEARS AGO.
Posted by: Artra on Feb 21, 2009 11:26 AM   
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BIG NORTHERN OLIGARCHS WANT A LITTLE CHINA IN THEIR SUBMITTED (HA!!! "UNDERDEVOLOPPED") BACKYARD COUNTRY, BUT WITH ALL THE PROFITS TO THEM AND ALL THE VIOLENCE NEEDED TO $U$TAIN IT.

The economical system: mixed economy -state, private and social properties- was a pain in the ass to them. As many countries did it afterwards, after WWII, those industries and services that implied big capital sustainment were state property: petrol (that, USA mighties never forgave), railway, electricity, telephones, air lines, health and social security, public universities, all with the perversive purpose of state service and non-profit. Private companies were subsidiary to main industries.

What was the deal written -agreements like McLane-Ocampo, Bucareli agrements -in Warren G. HardingCalvin Coolidge periodes- and unwritten?: no shipping abroad -cut the traditonal oriental commerce-, no petrochemicals and medicine drugs, no fertilizer industries,... no big national industries otherwise and fuck agriculture, let have your social land ownership, the millenary social land concession, thousands of years before the west "perversive" communists ideas and taboos, but cripple it. As far as politics is concerned, presidents must have CIA tasks curricula; a perfect dictatorship to the pleasure of USA magnates, with the difference to the rest of Latin dictatorships, no huge weaponry.

29 YEARS AGO IT BECAME CLEAR TO US THAT THE NORTH DIDN'T LIKE OUR ECONOMIC AND POLITCAL MODELS ANYMORE.

TODAY, WE SIMPLY HAVE NO NATIONAL: INDUSTRY, COMMERCE, BANKS, AGRICULTURE. NOTHING!!!!

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE ONLY ONE TO DENOUNCE IT WAS GLOBAL RESEARCH. THEY SAID BEHIND ASPAN PROJECT THERE IS A BIG BIG BUSSINESS INCLUDING FINANCIAL-MILITARY COMPLEX.

Hey, unreachable Naomi Klein, talk what you know about your backyard,... nothing,.. hey Tom Dispatch -or whatever his name is- what about USA suckers projects in Mexico and Latin America?...projects? never heard of anyone.

I ASK MYSELF HOW MANY USA "LIBERALS", "LEFTISTS", "PROGRESSIVES", ARE LEFTIST, LIBERALS TO THE LIMIT OF THEIR OWN VERY PERSONAL BENEFIT, FOR THE LIMIT OF CRITICAL NORTHAMERICAN CRISIS, TOGETHER WITH RIPPING CLOTHES FOR ZIONISTS CRIMES AND ELSE... BUT TOUCHING A LITTLE BIT USA IMPERIAL SUCKING .... OOH NOH, IT'S JUST VIOLENCE NATURAL TO "UNDERVELOPPED" COUNTRIES.

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Could a Sudden Collapse of Mexico Be Obama's Surprise Foreign Policy Challenge?
Posted by: pfm on Feb 21, 2009 11:55 AM   
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In a perfect holistic world we could at this point in time make time and make the honest effort to actually take positive steps to assist our neighbors south of the border - Mexico. This is not as yet a holistic world and I it seems to be we need to keep our own eyes and ears firmly fixed on the USA. Corporate media and unfortunately most agencies of our USA government do not want to reveal the abyss into which our nation's economy is headed, unless "we" choose to wake up and throw off the fear mentality of the last 8 years. This can not be done in a mere 30 or even 100 days of a new presidency. It takes time, effort and diligent steadfast leadership which I trust Obama truly possesses only time will tell. In a fall economy Mexico could fare far better than us as unfortunately most of their citizens know how to survive which most of us in the USA don't. Ask this same question a year from now and the shoe may well be on the other foot.

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ba
Posted by: mnstra on Feb 21, 2009 12:17 PM   
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Please be aware that THE US IS A FAILED STATE AND A THREAT TO THE WORLD AND ITS OWN CITIZENS. Mexico IS A lamb BY COMPARISON.
LOOK TO YOUR OWN COUNTRY FIRST
JOSE

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Guns an' Drrrugs!
Posted by: GUY FOX on Feb 21, 2009 4:17 PM   
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The black market $ystem, the poisonous fruit of the glorious [sic] War on Drrrugs, is working perfect-lie... working as planned!

There's nothing like prohibition (in the name of Jeeeezass!) to make black market profits without paying taxes. Oooh yesss! Profits without paying taxes! We Amerikans give the violent, gangbanging drrrug cartels in Mexico money and guns to overthrow (and behead) the oligarchy in Mexico City. And they give us drrrugs and coyote cheap labor for the glorious [sic] corp-rat capitalist pig $ystem here in Amerika.

Rape, robbery, murder, mayhem, chaos, and anarchy are butt a small price to pay for all the untaxed profiteering born from the $pirit of capitalism and unregulated free enterprise activities.

Hip! Hip! Hurrah... for the War on Drrrugs! We reap what we $ow! And whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad! Behold! See the madness that Amerika has become!

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Vicente Fox: "I will fix the Zapatista problem in 5 minutes"
Posted by: drugs on Feb 21, 2009 6:03 PM   
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this country on our southern border confounds us. the media in the US only complicates things. tell me:
1) does the quality of life actually suck in Mexico or is it actually superior to the US?
2) as we have discovered in Columbia, could the "drug" gangs actually be leftist rebels? will they start calling union leaders drugistas?
3) what happened to the zapatista movement? what happened to chiapas? do they (or does subcommandante Marcos or his counterpart) have any comment on the most recent situation?
4) is illegal immigration a real issue or just another divisive wedge issue designed to mobilize the xenophobic yankee?
5) does illegal immigration make up a significant portion of our economy or is it just a small sliver?
6) do illegal immigrants pay taxes, contribute to the economy, or just drive down wages and feed off the public trough?
7) is Mexico a failed state about to go down in chaos or a highly successul and profitable oligarchy with enough resources to bury us?
8) does anybody really know the answers to these questions? because at this point all the answers seem to be highly colored by personal politics and special interest.

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Collapse in Mexico & Escalating Drug War in Afghanistan
Posted by: aahpat on Feb 22, 2009 6:04 AM   
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While drug warrior President Barack Obama remains in drug warrior denial of the direct relationship between the chaos in the world and the war on drugs our borders are under siege, our neighbors are near collapse and our enemies are better funded than any stateless enemies should ever be. The U.S. global drug war strategy is causing ever greater rifts between the U.S. and our allies in South America and Europe.

In January it was reported in European but not U.S. media that a rift is developing between U.S. Nato command and Europeans because the U.S. is demanding that Europeans violate international law by "killing", without evidence of complicity with the insurgency, civilian drug lab workers.

US Commander Orders NATO to Kill All Opium Dealers -- NATO Balks

"According to the German news magazine Der Spiegel, top NATO commander in Afghanistan, US Gen. John Craddock, has issued a "guidance" allowing NATO troops "to attack directly drug producers and facilities throughout Afghanistan." But other NATO commanders do not want to follow that order, leading to a rift at the top of the allied war machine over who is a legitimate military target."

According to an Oct. 2007 Strategic Studies Institute report for the U.S. Army War College OPIUM AND AFGHANISTAN:REASSESSING U.s. COUNTERNARCOTICS STRATEGY (PDF)

"...an estimated 70 percent of the Taliban’s income now comes from protection money and the sale of opium."

The Taliban have access to this income thanks only to the war on drugs policy that creates the black market economy that the Taliban gets this 'aid and comfort' from.

Indeed, American Afghan expert New York University professor Barnett Rubin has been telling our congress this for years. In the fall of 2006 he made the following assertion to the United States Senate Foreign Relations Committee that he repeated in the spring of 2007 to the Senate Armed Services Committee:

"The international drug-control regime does not reduce drug use, but it does, by criminalizing narcotics, produce huge profits for criminals and the armed groups and corrupt officials who protect them. In Afghanistan, this drug policy provides, in effect, huge subsidies to the United States' enemies."

The private think tank, The International Council on Security and Development, has a strategy to end the Taliban's access to poppy profits while actually helping the Afghan people rather than simplistically bombing their homes as livelihoods, which is the American strategy. Their Poppy for Medicine program would have the local farmers produce opium for regulated local medicine production plants that would distribute to poverty oppressed nations in need of the medicines. This gives gainful and legal profits to the farmers while taking their profits out of the hands of the Taliban.

The United States of America 'just says no'.

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you mean the AMERICAN DEMANDED 'DrugWar' & civil rights abuses?
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Feb 22, 2009 8:53 AM   
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yeah, the Rest of the World is downright THRILLED that the USA militarized & criminalized the trade in non-BigPharma trade & agriculture which is millennially old...

that its an excuse for the DEA & CIA to run black ops on non-Americans & union organizers, social reformers & peace activists...

is just the added bonus that makes the USA the prime reason many other nations are collapsing under incredibly violent drug lords & American-arse licking dictatorships.

That the US is demanding other nations cough up biometric cataloging of their citizens or that local government authorities bastardize the labour & civil rights in favour of American corporations like Chiquita Banana, Coca-Cola or other manufacturers... gee, thanks for caring.

...that Americans would look at the Latin American crisis ONLY AS BLOW to the wasteful AMERICAN CONSUMERIST SOCIETY is simply disgusting: xenophobic & ethnocentric enough for ya?


The Onion: "Hurricane Bound For Texas Slowed By Large Land Mass To The South"
Texas residents are relieved that the deadly Category 5 storm just missed them, destroying a horn-shaped land mass south of them instead.

yup, comedy is often more revealing & truthful than you'd like...

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