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That Was in Fact a Huge Win for Obama Last Week

By Frank Rich, The New York Times. Posted February 16, 2009.


Obama mowed down the GOP with a stimulus bill victory last week. The biggest mistake he can make now is to be too timid.

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Am I crazy, or wasn't the Obama presidency pronounced dead just days ago? Obama had "all but lost control of the agenda in Washington," declared Newsweek on Feb. 4 as it wondered whether he might even get a stimulus package through Congress. "Obama Losing Stimulus Message War" was the headline at Politico a day later. At the mostly liberal MSNBC, the morning host, Joe Scarborough, started preparing the final rites. Obama couldn't possibly eke out a victory because the stimulus package was "a steaming pile of garbage."

Less than a month into Obama's term, we don't (and can't) know how he'll fare as president. The compromised stimulus package, while hardly garbage, may well be inadequate. Timothy Geithner's uninspiring and opaque stab at a bank rescue is at best a place holder and at worst a rearrangement of the deck chairs on the TARP-Titanic, where he served as Hank Paulson's first mate.

But we do know this much. Just as in the presidential campaign, Obama has once again outwitted the punditocracy and the opposition. The same crowd that said he was a wimpy hope-monger who could never beat Hillary or get white votes was played for fools again.

On Wednesday, as a stimulus deal became a certainty on Capitol Hill, I asked David Axelrod for his take on this Groundhog Day relationship between Obama and the political culture.

"It's why our campaign was not based in Washington but in Chicago," he said. "We were somewhat insulated from the echo chamber. In the summer of '07, the conventional wisdom was that Obama was a shooting star; his campaign was irretrievably lost; it was a ludicrous strategy to focus on Iowa; and we were falling further and further behind in the national polls." But even after the Iowa victory, this same syndrome kept repeating itself. When Obama came out against the gas-tax holiday supported by both McCain and Clinton last spring, Axelrod recalled, "everyone in D.C. thought we were committing suicide."

The stimulus battle was more of the same. "This town talks to itself and whips itself into a frenzy with its own theories that are completely at odds with what the rest of America is thinking," he says. Once the frenzy got going, it didn't matter that most polls showed support for Obama and his economic package: "If you watched cable TV, you'd see our support was plummeting, we were in trouble. It was almost like living in a parallel universe."

For Axelrod, the moral is "not just that Washington is too insular but that the American people are a lot smarter than people in Washington think."

Here's a third moral: Overdosing on this culture can be fatal. Because Republicans are isolated in that parallel universe and believe all the noise in its echo chamber, they are now as out of touch with reality as the "inevitable" Clinton campaign was before it got clobbered in Iowa. The G.O.P. doesn't recognize that it emerged from the stimulus battle even worse off than when it started. That obliviousness gives the president the opening to win more ambitious policy victories than last week's. Having checked the box on attempted bipartisanship, Obama can now move in for the kill.

A useful template for the current political dynamic can be found in one of the McCain campaign's more memorable pratfalls. Last fall, it was the Beltway mantra that Obama was doomed with all those working-class Rust Belt Democrats who'd flocked to Hillary in the primaries. The beefy, beer-drinking, deer-hunting white guys -- incessantly interviewed in bars and diners -- would never buy the skinny black intellectual. Nor would the "dead-ender" Hillary women. The McCain camp not only bought into this received wisdom, but bet the bank on it, pouring resources into states like Michigan and Wisconsin before abandoning them and doubling down on Pennsylvania in the stretch. The sucker-punched McCain lost all three states by percentages in the double digits.


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I Want To See A Decisive Democratic President
Posted by: ZPaul on Feb 16, 2009 1:02 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...and I want to see him be decisive every day of his Presidency, and hopefully, increasingly decisive with every passing day of it!

The Republicans have always presented themselves as "the action guys" and the Democrats as passive self-doubters. Now we've got a President who is neither passive, nor a self-doubter. I say we encourage him to be bolder than ever. The time has come for truly bold initiatives.

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» Be Bold; Be Obama! Posted by: edgar1
» RE: Be Bold; Be Obama! Posted by: JSquercia
» Lobos Posted by: ProgressiveManiac
» RE: Lobos Posted by: Beck
» RE: Lobos Posted by: maxpayne
» Dismantle AIPAC Mr. Obama Posted by: weathered
The Christian right Never Relents
Posted by: edgar_michel on Feb 16, 2009 3:49 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I live in a household where Chuck Smith is considered nearly a God and the tenets of Calvary Chapel are held inviolable.

I hear at the dinner table how Barak "bin Laden" Hussein Obama is sanctioning abortions of six month old fetuses. I found out later that this information was conjured from a FOX News article titled "Lawsuit: Florida Clinic Botched Abortion, Threw Out Live Baby." The implication made at the dinner table was that these abortions are only happening because there is a liberal president in the White House. My thought was; why are they so preoccupied about other people’s lives and the decisions they make when their own lives are an unresolved disaster area in the first place? But never matter; they made the point and moved on to other incidents in America that they attributed to Barak Obama's presidency.

I hear this stuff like this every day and I wonder just what kinds of people populate churches like Calvary Chapel? I sometimes perceive a chilling similarity between Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel and Jim Jones and The Peoples Temple. Both enjoyed absolute unquestioning obedience from their following and both failed in the capacity of self criticism or in the drive to research their positions before propounding them.

These talks are followed by revelations of how the economy is going to be saved by scientists building huge reflectors in Space to concentrate the sun's energy on a spot on the planet where the energy will be harvested allowing America to retain its position of dominance over the world and by implication the dominance of Fundamentalist Christianity over the world. You must realize here that these people have absolutely no education in the sciences, they spend all of their reading lives consuming every world that Chuck Smith utters or writes and vetting those words against a prescribed interpretation of the Bible which they read through the lens of Calvary Chapel ideology; there is no independent thought or researching of the subjects discussed going on here.

Of course they believe that Ronald Reagan was the greatest president that ever lived and that George W. Bush will be vindicated by history. But what really is puzzling is that they believe that the bailout of the banks borders on the immoral while adamantly not admitting that it was "Conservative" policy that created the opportunity for the Real Estate and Credit bubble in the first place. They have a knack for denying the toxic results of policy they previously vigorously supported.

The point I'm attempting to make here is that every day in Bible classes or during sermons, these churches are unrelenting in promoting the "Conservative" Christian Right wing ideology regardless of whether that ideology has brought horrendous failures or not. There is this sense of ongoing denial and a refusal to consider whether that ideology comports with reality or not.

I find this thinking not just sad but dangerous because there is this sense of absolute unquestioning obedience by the following to the church leaders. I almost get the feeling that these people would walk off a cliff if the church leaders ask them to do so.

Because of this, there has to be a constant vigil among Americans in the pursuit of truth and the acceptance of the implications when the truth is uncovered. Only through education, and since our government is prone to propaganda, self education, will the American people begin to perceive systems of organization that is not only just and effective with regard to the richness of their own lives, but with regard to the richness of the lives of their neighbors and all the other life that surrounds them on the planet as well. Myth has to give way to real understanding even though real understanding is fundamentally more difficult to obtain than mere belief in myth but fundamentally more enriching as well.

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» think about this... Posted by: ellie
Garbage NY Times Propaganda
Posted by: PointMan on Feb 16, 2009 4:37 AM   
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Obama has once again outwitted the punditocracy and the opposition.

What "opposition"?

You mean the one Obama joined to cook "Wall Street Bailouts" and scam "war on terror"? That "opposition"?

It's the PLUTOCRACY that matters not the sellout MSM "punditocracy" that works for it. All sides at the rigged DC farce are owned lock stock and "Bailouts" by a corporate crime Mafia that is never mentioned at the prostitute Times.

As Frank Rich and his overpaid double-talk squad at the the NY Times crank out endless propaganda for the usual suspects, the nation is going into the Police State tank.

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» RE: Garbage NY Times Propaganda Posted by: 2thepoint
» a creep??? Posted by: 2thepoint
» RE: Garbage NY Times Propaganda Posted by: 2thepoint
Because it passed faster than expected, technically yes but let's get real.
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 16, 2009 5:01 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
For the most part, this bill isn't much different from what Bush and Raygun proposed except that I do appreciate some of the spending that's needed for critical budgets such as repairing much of the nation's infrastructure. I can't say this was really much of a win though and technically both sides are correct to criticize the package when there is more pork and more tax cuts for already well to do who don't need them to begin with. But the biggest losers are we the people because the money for this package isn't there and it's gonna have to come from somewhere and most likely where we don't want it to come from. In fact, we have yet to pay back the long term deficits of Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy/corporate elites and this war-turned-occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, it will be another instance of borrowing from China. Victory? I think NOT.

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» "...let's get real." Posted by: ellie
» RE: "...let's get real." Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: "...let's get real." Posted by: Deep
» RE: "...let's get real." Posted by: maxpayne
Can Rich Count?
Posted by: edgar1 on Feb 16, 2009 5:31 AM   
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Given the massive majority of Dems in the house, and the obvious reality that Specter, and the Maine Duo would vote with Obama, what steamroller does Obama have? If he were so awe inspiring, more Republicans would have voted with him, fearing defeat in the next election if they stuck to principle and voted against this Bureaucrat Relief Fund that provides "jobs" at a huge cost per job.

When the economy is racked by the massive inflation this Harvard Lampoon economic team has triggered, there may be fewer Dems in Congress. Then see how many bills The Cool One steamrolls over us.

Also,I suppose Congress will be called unpatriotic when it questions in five years why it's still funding Iraq and Afghan adventures? Mr. Rich gonna call for Super O to steamroll those fuddy duddies too?

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» Yes Posted by: Beck
» Our real leader! Posted by: 2thepoint
Bail us out of our dependence on foreign oil
Posted by: beyondgreen on Feb 16, 2009 6:48 AM   
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There could be no better investment in America than to invest in America becoming energy independent! We need to utilize everything in out power to reduce our dependence on foreign oil including using our own natural resources. Create cheap clean energy, new badly needed green jobs, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil. The high cost of fuel this past year seriously damaged our economy and society. The cost of fuel effects every facet of consumer goods from production to shipping costs. After a brief reprieve gas is inching back up. OPEC will continue to cut production until they achieve their desired 80-100. per barrel. If all gasoline cars, trucks, and SUV's instead had plug-in electric drive trains, the amount of electricity needed to replace gasoline is about equal to the estimated wind energy potential of the state of North Dakota. There is a really good new book out by Jeff Wilson called The Manhattan Project of 2009 Energy Independence Now. http://www.themanhattanprojectof2009.com

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You're not crazy, Frank
Posted by: Beck on Feb 16, 2009 7:06 AM   
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The Obama presidency, in less than a month, has been pronounced dead about 10 times a day.

I used to insist there was no Messiah complex connected to Obama, but obviously I was wrong.

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Complicit and Complacent!
Posted by: Ottomatic on Feb 16, 2009 7:38 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Transfusion
Pump the Blood: Bud!
Obama-Rama
Has jumped into the snake pit of Washington Politics to help save you.
Second guessing him will never get anything done.

The Corpirate System is DEAD.
If you expect Dead Eye Dick to save you,
You are sadly mistaken.
Dirty Dick’s idea of a perfect world,
Is one, without YOU in it.
Sorry!
That’s the facts, Jack.
After all the Lies, Spies, Thievery, Treason and Torture
I would have thought: You would have woken up by now?
After forty years of Tinkle Down politics.
The Delusion is over and
We are all standing in quicksand.

The only people I am concerned about are the innocent (children).
Everyone else is complicit and complacent.
You are either part of the solution or part of the PROBLEM!
If you sitting on your hands waiting for a giant corporate tit to feed you?
You are part of the problem.
Think outside the BOX!
We are only a few generations from an agricultural Society.
let's get our hands dirty and go back to what we know.
The food supply has been compromised.
Potato Famine anyone?
Do you really trust FRANKEN FOODS to put food on your family?
It is POISON!
Over processed, genetically modified JUNK!
Just look around you.
It’s a FAT FUNKING FARM!
The second shoe is about to fall.
You have two years or less.
Bread lines anyone?
My parents spoke of them and
Warned of the possibility?
Now it seams totally feasible.
We are Defenseless.
The Corpirates set us up!
The Chinese Junk ships have stopped.

Join the Micro Democracy Revolution.
Help make the tools we'll need to provide for our families and communities needs.
Victory Gardens
Poultry
Farming is in your blood.

Go Local
Go Green
Become more efficient, self efficient and self reliant.

Survive and Prosper!

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Obama mowed down the GOP???? More like went begging to the GOP
Posted by: DCostello2 on Feb 16, 2009 8:17 AM   
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Does the author live in the same country as the rest of us? Does the author have a clue as to what happened with this bill? Mowed down???? Hardly!!

The truth is that Obama had to go beg for Republican votes in the Senate in order to get this pig passed. How is this mowing down the GOP?? If anything, the GOP is still running the show and the way Obama and the Dems cut their bill in order to please the GOP demonstrates the fact.

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That Was in Fact a Huge Loss for The American People Last Week
Posted by: logansafi on Feb 16, 2009 8:22 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Even worse than the actual world economic downturn in employment is the plans to supposedly save people from it, because it hides a gigantic redistribution of government funds to the already privileged. The common folk everywhere will be asked to fund 'stimulus' for the corporate world that simply doesn't actually much care whether the worker lives or dies. What they do care about is simply keeping the population pacified and obedient.

The only plan that the liberal Democrats have is to copy the Republican plan to bailout the rich. The Republicans then smartly oppose the DP copied version of their own plans so as to better position themselves later as having been supposed opponents to what simply will not work for those who actually do need government funds to eke out their own survival.

The tax paying working class is going to be really pissed when they see the national debt that they will now be saddled with and begin to hear the excuses that their is no money for programs that would help the working class out. All thanks to the DP voting liberal types for being so suckered by the Obama-Clintonite Machine. Very sad....

You guys provide the essential political camouflage for a totally reactionary government throw away of tax monies. You also provide the opening for an even more reactionary Republican President than even Dubya-Cheny was 4 or 8 years from now. Sad...

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isn't frank rick one of the knuckleheads who declared obama's presidency lame before last week?
Posted by: rayne on Feb 16, 2009 9:28 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
it's funny how the same media morons will jump on the "obama is one smart guy!" bandwagon, right after hopping off the "obama is a loser if he thinks he can outsmart the republicans!" hayride of just a few weeks ago. i am SICK of everyone- and i include many Alternet posters here- second guessing every move obama makes and making their pronouncements of what a centrist disappointment he is, BLAH BLAH BLAH. how about this- let's give the man a chance to do his job. we elected him to be president, so let's let him do it and we can go back to doing our jobs instead of obsessively nitpicking every move he makes. sound good?

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» There you go again. Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: There you go again. Posted by: Beck
» You're right. Posted by: Beck
"Choice is an illusion...
Posted by: peacelf on Feb 16, 2009 10:25 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
created by those in power for those without power."
The Matrix

Maybe the media is losing its effectiveness at creating an illusion The People will buy. I congratulate Obama for holding to the truth about stimulus spending. However, I agree with Paul Krugman, it's not enough. I predict there will be a stimulus II bill by the end of year two for Obama, one that ignores the plight of the rich and powerful.

peace

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» Nothing is ever enough Posted by: Beck
Obama's power
Posted by: danielleismyname on Feb 16, 2009 10:37 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
‘For Axelrod, the moral is "not just that Washington is too insular but that the American people are a lot smarter than people in Washington think."’

Is that really the case? Are they really smarter, or are they just willing to go along with anything Obama tells them. He is in a love affair with the American people, and not just the ‘smart’ ones, but all of them. You don’t have to read the news, know anything about politics, to love Obama. It is evident from his high approval ratings (‘mid 60s to mid 70’). Obama ‘winning’ this battle over the stimulus package just showed that he has the power to shape the agenda.

And now that Obama has shown his power, GOP leaders had better fall in, or they could be dropped like the Hoover Republicans (‘In the first four years after F.D.R. took over from Hoover, the already decimated ranks of Republicans in Congress fell from 36 to 16 in the Senate and from 117 to 88 in the House.’)

There has been a lot of comparison between Obama and FDR, with the stimulus plan and the New Deal and I agree that ‘this country wants a New Deal, including on energy and health care, not a New Deal lite.’ We don’t just want it, we need it.

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I wouldn't be so impressed with popular opinion
Posted by: form5166 on Feb 16, 2009 3:15 PM   
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I mean - Bush had 82% at the start of the freakin Irag war, remember? Reagan is worshipped like a god, still. Just because the American people "are in love" (pleaasseee count me off that list) does not mean that the popular crowds at Jesus's demise didn't cheer on the crucifixion like they were at the Super Bowl. If your going to declare the "wisdom" of the masses to be actually anything close to some kind of legitimate guide, your going to be sorely burned in the end. Groupthink, mob-rule, whatever, if that is the "new" guiding principle- well history alone will tell you....RUN!

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URGENT. VOTERS NEED TO CALL THEIR REPS NOW
Posted by: cori on Feb 16, 2009 5:21 PM   
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Given the massive loss of wealth incurred by the baby boom cohorts that are nearing retirement, it would be reasonable to think that President Obama and Congress are trying to develop plans to ensure that they can still enjoy a secure retirement. In fact, the opposite appears to be the case. There are reports President Obama is considering establishing tasks to examine Social Security and Medicare with an eye toward making cuts in both programs.

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