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Will Obama Exploit the Unemployed as Recruits for a Ramped Up War in Afghanistan?

By Paul Craig Roberts, CounterPunch. Posted February 11, 2009.


The jobless rate is a depression-level 18 percent. Americans might sign up to kill abroad rather than be homeless and hungry at home.

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Is there intelligent life in Washington, D.C.?  Not a speck of it.

The U.S. economy is imploding, and President Barack Obama is being led by his government of neoconservatives and Israeli agents into a quagmire in Afghanistan that will bring the U.S. into confrontation with Russia, and possibly China, America's largest creditor. 

The January payroll job figures reveal that last month, 20,000 Americans lost their jobs every day. 

In addition, December's job losses were revised up by 53,000 from 524,000 to 577,000. The revision brings the two-month job loss to 1,175,000. If this keeps up, Obama's promised 3 million new jobs will be wiped out by job losses.

Statistician John Williams (shadowstats.com) reports that this huge number is an understatement. Williams notes that built-in biases in seasonal adjustment factors caused a 118,000 understatement of January job losses, bringing the actual January job loss total to 716,000 jobs. 

The payroll survey counts the number of jobs, not the number of employed, because some people have more than one job. The Household Survey counts the number of people who have jobs, and it shows that 832,000 people lost their jobs in January and 806,000 in December, for a two-month count of Americans who lost jobs at 1,638,000.

The unemployment rate reported in the U.S. media is a fabrication. Williams reports that in changes since 1980, particularly in the Clinton era,

" 'Discouraged workers' -- those who had given up looking for a job because there were no jobs to be had -- were redefined so as to be counted only if they had been 'discouraged' for less than a year. This time qualification defined away the bulk of the discouraged workers.  Adding them back into the total unemployed, actual unemployment, [according to the unemployment rate methodology used in 1980] rose to 18 percent in January, from 17.5 percent in December."

In other words, without all the manipulations of the data, the U.S. unemployment rate is already at depression levels.

How could it be otherwise, given the enormous job losses from jobs sent overseas? It is impossible for a country to create jobs when its corporations are moving production for the American consumer market offshore. When they move the production offshore, they shift U.S. gross domestic product to other countries. The U.S. trade deficit over the past decade has reduced U.S. GDP by $1.5 trillion dollars. That is a lot of jobs.

I have been reporting for years that university graduates have had to take jobs as waitresses and bartenders. As over-indebted consumers lose their jobs, they will visit restaurants and bars less frequently. Consequently, those with university degrees will not even have jobs waiting on tables and mixing drinks.

U.S. policymakers have ignored the fact that consumer demand in the 21st century has been driven, not by increases in real income, but by increased consumer indebtedness. This fact makes it pointless to try to stimulate the economy by bailing out banks so that they can lend more to consumers. The American consumers have no more capacity to borrow.

With the decline in the values of their principal assets -- their homes -- with the destruction of half of their pension assets, and with joblessness facing them, Americans cannot and will not spend.

Why bail out GM and Citibank when the firms are moving as many operations offshore as they possibly can?

Much of U.S. infrastructure is in poor shape and needs renewing. However, infrastructure jobs do not produce goods and services that can be sold abroad.

The massive commitment to infrastructure does nothing to help the U.S. reduce its huge trade deficit, the financing of which is becoming a major problem. Moreover, when the infrastructure projects are completed, so are the jobs.


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Paul Craig Roberts was assistant secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He is co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions. He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com.

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Paul Craig Roberts Has It Right ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Feb 11, 2009 1:37 AM   
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The United States is headed for catastrophe at home and abroad. Instead of leveling with the American people Obama continues the charade of the Invincible American Empire. This will end badly, very badly ...

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The New Deal second time around!
Posted by: 2thepoint on Feb 11, 2009 7:53 AM   
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It's how FDR got us out of the dperession, I guess Obama figures since many see him as the new FDR why not go all the way. Afghanistan will bankrupt us much like it helped Russia down the path of ruin!

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Roberts' article economically short-sighted
Posted by: peacelf on Feb 11, 2009 9:06 AM   
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A stimulus that invests in Infrastructure is an infusion of money, not just into the infrastructure rebuilding businesses but all aspects of the economy. Those with infrastructure rebuilding jobs spend money on other things, so the stimulus money is an infusion of capital in all sectors of the economy. The only concern should be if it's enough money in the right places.

According to economist Paul Krugman, whom I happen to like and trust, the current Senate and House versions fall short. A good stimulus package must include immediate concerns and future concerns, like roads, bridges, water treatment, food and shelter for the unemployed AND education, clean and renewable energy, mass transportation and jobs for the future.

And, while I am an unrelenting Peace activist, I can understand that many americans need to feel secure. Moreover, the change to diplomacy from militarism isn't easy. So called terrorists still lurk in the shadows because the diplomatic transformation has yet to be implemented, and american political leaders are still mistrusted.

And, the painful wounds the U.S. has inflicted on the Middle East have not had a chance to heal. They may never fully heal, but those who chose for whatever reasons to join the military have the right to do so, even if it means stepping on a festering wound. Our only hope is that a genuine coalition force occupies Afghanistan with the understanding that they have a right self govern in anyway they democratically chose.

It's a tightrope Obama walks that could be his political demise, but if Afghanistan brings down the U.S. empire, I will not cry. I will celebrate what I have wished for for years, because we will be better people for it in the end.

peace

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Paul Craig Roberts Gets it Wrong...Again!!
Posted by: yellow on Feb 11, 2009 11:02 AM   
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PCR is certainly correct about the higher than acknowledged unemployment rate. Since the recession began in December 2007, about 3.6 million jobs have been lost. Add to this about a 1.7 million job shortfall which failed to keep pace with workforce growth over the same period and we have a deficit of about 5.2 million jobs. The unemployment rate is now officially about 8% or 12 million unemployed. It is quite possibly nearly 18 million when discouraged workers are counted.

After this point, PCR gets off track. His claim that Obama's "Keynesian Advisors" learned from Milton Freidman's observation that the Fed's failure to make proper monetary adjustments in time caused the Great Depression of the 1930s, is nonsense. The US economy of the 1920s was driven by speculative bubbles. The Land bubble in Florida burst in 1925 with great losses. From there, the speculative money shifted to Wall Street. A stock bubble emerged as stock prices soared due to rapid purchased made on margin with money borrowed from unregulated commercial banks. When the bubble burst and the New York Stock Exchange lost about 60% of its value in a single day, panic ensued as loans were called in by banks. Bank runs were followed by a massive credit and liquidity contraction. From here bankruptcies led to unemployment, a spiraling debt deflation and a deep depression all over the world. We are in the same danger today. The FDIC and federal bailouts have calmed markets and delayed the effect but jobs are being shed at a feverish pace and unless a stimulus package is passed, we will have the worst depression in history.

PCR also gets international capital markets' response to the crisis wrong. Japan and China control over half long term US foreign debt with Japan holding about 30% and the Chinese holding about 21%. The US's main Asian trading partners don't want to lose their vital US export markets. Continued purchases of US Treasury securities will ensure a strong dollar and continued access to cheap credit for US consumers. The latest US Treasury data show that for October 2008, foreign investors purchased about $35 billion in US Treasury securities up from about $21 billion in September. China and Japan, the two largest holders of total US public foreign debt with about $653 billion and $585.5 billion respectively, both increased their holdings in October 2008. As a consequence the US dollar rose in value against both the Yen and he Euro. In the first days of currency trading in 2009, the US dollar was up slightly against both major foreign reserve currencies.

PCR has not acknowledged the role of risk averse behavior of foreign investors. The risky nature of US corporate bonds and equities has sent foreign investors to the safe haven of US Treasuries. Some say this may even create an unprecedented bubble on US Treasury securities. This has pushed government bond yields to historic lows as interest rates decline. Short term treasuries have been doing better than long term revealing the risk averse behavior of many foreign central banks.

One major reason that foreign investors, particularly the main US trade partners in Asia, don't abandon the dollar and dollar denominated assets is that it would sent US interest rates skyrocketing plunging the US economy into an even deeper, long term depression. This would utterly destroy Asia's US export markets and hence the world economy; this is something that these countries desperately want to avoid at all costs. Furthermore, most US trade partners, like China and Japan, don't want a major sell off to reduce the existing value of their quite substantial stock of US Treasury securities.

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» Thanks, Yellow. Great post. Posted by: GuitarBill
» Yes, I am biased . . . Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: Yes, I am biased . . . Posted by: yellow
» RE: Yes, I am biased . . . Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: Yes, I am biased . . . Posted by: yellow
» Yes, that is true . . . Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: Yes, that is true . . . Posted by: yellow
Dick Cheney is just waiting in the wings...
Posted by: jenko on Feb 11, 2009 12:39 PM   
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...drooling.

I offer this as a reasonable extrapolation of the last 8+ years: 9/11/2010

for those who enjoy spoilers, start on this chapter:
9112010.com/9112010.html

and see how it plays out.

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Daniel Inouye- "we are a superpower and must police the globe"
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Feb 12, 2009 2:22 AM   
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Those are his words when he was talking of the stimulus bill yesterday. America is dead as a country and is now an empire. The house, senate and executive branches will continue to expand the military industrial complex as well as it's spending and reach until it dies. I believe it has crossed it's Rubicon river (what the Romans did to destroy it's empire), and will rob from whomever it can to continue this fiasco to the end.

Yes, we are going to expand our influence with more weapons in more countries with more bases and move into Pakistan and probably Iran. President Obama is committed to getting more troops into Afghanistan and move into the Pakistan/Afghanistan border per his first televised news conference. To do this, America will add more troops to what it already has and the only way to do this is to accept the unemployed.

America has become the very beast that it's founders despised.

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No wonder rural Misery (MO) looks worse than the last time I visited it every time.
Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Feb 12, 2009 4:31 AM   
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There are no real jobs and what remains of the young kids these days are either minimum wage or going into the military ! The places are so dilapidated and rusting even more in ruins each time that every time I see it on my way to visiting my parents, it's so despressing and brings tears to my eyes. How can our electorate fall for the two party scam and allow most of our land in this country to rot like this ?!?!? Send in the Obamabots and the GOPpers to Afghanistan and Pakistan where they can get a taste of their pols's medicine and please allow the unemployed a real opportunity to work to repair this nation !

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planned depression= planned fleecing= MORE DUPES
Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Feb 12, 2009 4:46 AM   
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THIS WAS THE REPUBLICRAT PLAN FROM THE START..WAR NEEDS POOR IGNORANT PEOPLE

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SUPPORT OUR DUPES
Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Feb 12, 2009 4:48 AM   
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POOR KIDS, NO OPPPORTUNITY.VICTIMS OF ECONOMIC WARFARE

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I've had enough of all their bullshit...
Posted by: eosrk on Feb 12, 2009 5:15 AM   
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I want to run for prez in 2012, and I ain't promising shit....however, by rallying the American people and making a new party calling the Peoples Party, I aim to vote ALL THEM FUCKERS OUTTA ALL GOVT OFFICES....IN OTHER WORDS CLEAN HOUSE AND START OVER

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» they will huey long you Posted by: HANGTRAITORS
Of course he will.
Posted by: mikehattan on Feb 12, 2009 6:38 AM   
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Sadly,its the way of the world. Hopefully these new soldiers will be put to use rebuilding their own crumbling country's infrastructure rather than be sent to destroy another ones.

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RE: Felons Wanted.
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 12, 2009 7:18 AM   
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Personally I believe that the 2 million inmates you propose to train for combat would disagree with you. Someone who robs a convenience store should go to jail, not combat. We would completely destroy our system of justice,which is far from perfect. Anna

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RE: Which state pen are you posting from?
Posted by: sausage on Feb 12, 2009 8:05 AM   
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Just curious.

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you idiot !
Posted by: PrinceRobert on Feb 12, 2009 10:58 AM   
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So, it's all right to send Americans to kill people in foreign countries as long as it's voluntary on the part of the American ???!!! You think that our criminal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq have anything to do with destroying terrorists or keeping "American Free" ? You think the hundreds of thousands of dead and displaced Iraqis and Afghanis were all terrorists ? What a complete fool you are !

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RE: American Assholes
Posted by: 876 on Feb 12, 2009 11:56 AM   
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Who the hell do you think you are you ignorant racist American nitwit? Do you think the whole world is some dumping ground for Americans to export their self inflicted problems to? There is no better place on earth for the fruit of diseased American loins than right in your own shit holes, amongst their own genocidal psychotic kind.

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» 876 is the real asshole Posted by: yellow
NIXON'S PLAN
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 12, 2009 7:13 AM   
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When Nixon abolished the draft it was with the understanding that there would alway be a poor class of people with no choice but to join the military. The military academy graduates would provide leadership & officers. So this is not Obama's brainchild. He may or may not benefit from it. Enlistments have increased but not enough to provide us with the military that we need. Sounds ridiculous, but I believe that some people would choose jail over combat. The idea of sending our people to Afganistan makes me sick. ANNA

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» RE: NIXON'S PLAN Posted by: rimchamp77
I will put my money on Iran
Posted by: solrev on Feb 12, 2009 7:15 AM   
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I am sure there will be a lot of young people looking to the military for survival in these economic times. A lot of returning vets from Iraq will reup for the same reason. It is really sad when that looks like the best choice in your life. However, Obama not being a military man will fight a different war in Afghanistan and it will require more troops but will ultimately be less dangerous than Iraq. Here is the plan. Put in as many troops as needed to guard the perimeter on the Pakistan boarder. Iran is not our enemy; Obama will end the cold war with Iran. Obama needs Iran to secure the Afghanistan border from their side. Iran will jump at the chance to become a prime time player on our side. The UN forces can police the Afghanistan interior. All we have to do is set there and wait until some Afghanistan political force gels. If we do not try and dictate who the leader will be in Afghanistan, one will rise up. Let Iran help stabilize Afghanistan, it is their neighbor. Afghanistan, Iran, and Iraq are a pretty powerful block with Iran as the top dog. Isn’t that what Russia and the US has been fighting about for 50 years? The only thing that matters to us mystics in all this political BS and the war mongering, is a united Islam. We can’t unite the Trinity, until Islam is made whole.

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» RE: I will put my money on Iran Posted by: rimchamp77
Today is Abraham Lincoln's Birthday
Posted by: sausage on Feb 12, 2009 7:54 AM   
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From what little I know of pre-Civil War American history--since in our public schools, and I have no doubt in the private ones also, the progression of U.S. history is taught from the start of one war to the end to the start of the next--the effects of the Panic of 1857, a generalized economic recession, did not fully abate until the firing on Fort Sumter.

Many Northern mechanics, as skilled tradesmen were called in those times, and farmers enlisted in Mr. Lincoln's army neither out a sense of patriotism or a wish to end slavery but for the chance to get out of debt. While the sums of a typical enlistment bonus seem pitifully small to us they were enough to save the family farm as it were. It must be kept in mind that this was an ear when a dollar-a-day was considered fair wages for skilled, free labor, especially in the Northern states.

Now let us abruptly segue to America c. 1973 and the initiation of the Milton J. Friedman, free market-based All Volunteer Force, a scheme designed to entice young under-and unemployed Americans into long-term military service with wages and benefits equally prevailing civilian wages. We now know that since the Nixon administration to present, the civilian sector has experienced a near steady decline in real hourly wages and benefits while the military has enjoyed a correspondingly steady increase in wage and benefits, all at taxpayer expense I might add.

A military career is no longer the employment choice of last resort for many young American men and women. Remember Jessica Lynch?

And it must also be noted that Mr. Roberts, as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury during the Reagan administration, is considered the "father of Reaganomics," a "free market" approach to governmental (non)regulation of the financial market economy which has lead this nation to the verge of total economic collapse.

So will President Obama will attempt to elevate the rising tide of unemployment and lessen the effects of economic depression by ratcheting up the ground war in Afghanistan? Mr. Roberts should have been asking that same question of then-President Bush six years ago on the eve of the Iraq invasion! The same economic forces which are in play now were evident then, the Iraq war merely staved off the inevitable so the feckless Bush could hand off his mess to the next administration.

So while I've enjoyed reading Mr. Roberts' many spot-on critiques in the past several years, this exercise in histrionics smacks of mea culpa disguised as critique. Mr. Robert's hands are hardly clean in this instance.

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False!
Posted by: BCcovers on Feb 12, 2009 10:10 AM   
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I can't believe that you would be so irresponsible and so excited about the possibility of economic misery sweeping our nation to outright lie about the current unemployment rate.

To all those who want to know the truth, currently our unemployment rate is at 7.6%. Economists consider the economy to be optimally "fully employed anywhere from 4-6% unemployment in order for there to be a competitive job market.

Here is a link to the various states unemployment rates:
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/state_unemployment/
As you can see, even the hardest-hit states like Michigan aren't even above ten percent! Let alone 18%. OK, now I'm sure people will tell me the numbers are fudged.

Not true, the unemployment rate has been calculated pretty much the same way for the past 30 years. In good times and bad it has been proven to be a very accurate measure about our workforce and the health of the economy. Back in the Clinton Days, it was around 3.5%. We can all agree that we remember those as pretty good times. Now the unemployment rate is 7.6%, times aren't that good, but I think we all know that we are no where near the unemployment rate of the Depression (20%+) nor are our lifestyles or living standards decreased to the point that was common throughout the depression.

Spreading this false propaganda actually makes our economy worse by convincing people things are worse than they are. Consumer's expectations will factor into our economic recoery; and stupid lies like this certainly do nothing to increase it.

I hope I've convinced some of you, but I know for some there is no convincing. In short, you can trust me, an economist; or some journalist who probably never took an Econ course in his life.

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» Wow, read much? Posted by: scared
» RE: Wow, read much? Posted by: BCcovers
» RE: Wow, read much? Posted by: richholland
» RE: Wow, read much? Posted by: EncinoM
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» RE: False! Posted by: BCcovers
The younger unemployed people are and the longer they are that way,
Posted by: WYGunston on Feb 12, 2009 10:37 AM   
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the more likely they are to have the urge to fight and kill because our system treated them very badly.

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GREAT RECESSION, THE SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION, YEP, IT'S OFFICIAL, IT'S HERE, NOW!
Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Feb 12, 2009 6:54 PM   
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President OBAMA, has referred to the Great Depression, over ten times since taking office. The main stream media has referred to the Great Depression, at least once or twice a week. The word is now being used to describe a deep Recession. Why don't they just tell the truth, and call a spade a spade. We are at the beginning of a second Depression. The question is what to do about surviving it. That is the question. With the population quadrupled in size and now we have more urban cities and fewer rual areas, which is going to be hardest hit, and what cities will get hit last? What can a family do to survive this?

This should be everybody's REAL concern now, not whether it a republican issue, or democratic issue, no more whining about red states vs blue states, no more arguments about who created the mess to begin with. The mess is here!!! We have to deal with it. It has to be bandaged up stopped and survived!!!

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