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Jobless in America: Stories from the Frontlines of the Economic Crisis

Some among America's millions of newly unemployed vent their frustrations -- and wonder what government can do to help.
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On January 27, at the end of a grim week of headlines announcing mass layoffs across the country, Nicholas von Hoffman posted a piece on the Nation website titled "Lost Your Job? Tell Your Story." By turns sad and scathing, frustrated and furious, the testimonials poured in -- what follows is only a sample. Inspired by this approach, AlterNet invites readers to send in their stories of how the recent decline in the economy has affected their lives. Email to: Crisis@alternet.org.

"I had just come back from attending the inauguration in Washington the day before I was told they were letting me go," a salesman named Robert Hinckley writes to The Nation. "My supervisor called me into his office and asked me if I believed in change. Before I could answer, he said he knew I did, since I was a big Obama supporter. Then he told me that the company thought I needed a change, since I didn't seem to be able to 'make my numbers' anymore."

In Maine there are skilled carpenters knocking on doors, asking for any kind of work, shoveling snow or stacking firewood. In Arizona Roger Barthelson, who has a PhD in biochemistry, says, "I am worried about losing my job, which pays about half of what the bottom-level salary is for someone with my experience--if I had a real job. Underemployment is bad enough. Now my little McJob may go away. Maybe I should retrain?"

Add that question to the one e-mailed to The Nation from "Anonymous" in Miami, who cries out, "Where are other people's stories? I have been looking online and, beyond this forum, they are nowhere to be found. Perhaps without an Internet connection, the worst stories will never be heard. Is that the reason for the silence?"

Every business day brings announcements of new layoffs at the big corporations. Layoffs in the small businesses, which comprise hundreds of thousands of jobs, do not get the publicity, but the consequences are the same--panic, worry, want and family disintegration. Animal shelters report that jobless people are bringing in the pets they no longer can afford to keep.

At the current accelerating rate of layoffs, we will be called on to deal with a catastrophe by the end of June. And at this time next year, the nation could be suffering 6, 7, even 8 million more Americans without jobs in a society singularly ill equipped to take on a disaster that many of the people in power thought could never happen.

Past recessions hit blue-collar workers and farmers the hardest and schooled them psychologically, if not financially, in alternating good times and bad. The white-collar wipeout is something new. We have no experience in handling the huge numbers of college-educated, technically trained unemployed.

Not only does unemployment ruin the lives of the people enduring it; it kick-starts home foreclosure rates and stimulates bankruptcies. The people who still have jobs, fearing that they could be next, stop spending money on cars, houses, clothes or anything else.

The past century of depressions, recessions, slumps, panics, dips, slowdowns, busted bubbles and crashes shows that jobs are the last thing to come back, that employment is the slowest to recover. Every job lost postpones the return of prosperity.

This is the moment for a tourniquet on the job hemorrhage. News of the millionaire class using public bailout money for their bonuses and private airplanes has left people feeling stranded and furious. They are demanding that something be done for them.

Washington should get money out to the states so they don't have to cut payrolls. As the bill stands now, it does that in part with education and health, but it ought to go further and make up the billions in deficits that at least forty-six states are looking at and save the thousands of state and local jobs that otherwise will soon be lost. California is already requiring state employees to take two unpaid days a month; before we can turn our attention to job creation, we need to stop the layoffs.

Appropriation of money that cannot be spent immediately should be put off for another day. Transportation money ought to go into running more trains and buses now. Construction on new infrastructure should be postponed, and work crews should be sent out to do repairs now. If a project is ready to start instantly--be it a research proposal, childcare or a theater group--put money into it now.


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Nicholas Von Hoffman is a columnist for the New York Observer and is the author, most recently, of "Hoax" (Nation Books, 2004).
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This is so sad
Posted by: Animal on Feb 10, 2009 1:57 AM   
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This is what happens when people worry more about stopping gay marriage or stem cell resarch than they do about keeping the economy strong, healthy, and viable. They basically voted away their livlihoods and standard of living to crooks who didn't give a rat's ass about them, but who cynically promised to protect them from "Adam and Steve" and the big bad al-Quida bogeyman. The single issue voters have effectively ruined and fucked America.

Once again, I'd like to give these idiots and sheeple a Big Fat "THANK YOU"!!!! Good job, the neocons/corporatists/globalists/fascists/Dominionists/robber barons couldn't have done it without you. WELL DONE!!

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A new party in 2010 - 2012
Posted by: georgiaorwell on Feb 10, 2009 1:58 AM   
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This is absolutely obscene and deplorable that the haves vs. the have nots has become the status quo. Washington is throwing around trillions of dollars that simply disappear. Billions are thrown away in elections. Our government is not working - not working. When did we become a nation that cared absolutely nothing whatsoever about its people? Nero (Congress and Pres) fiddled while Rome (our people) burned.

Our nation has evolved into the most callous, greedy, corporate military-industrial complex on the planet - just what Eisenhauer warned about. Our citizen workers have been outsourced to India and China, etc. When was the last time you talked to a business that the rep didn't have an Indian accent. Thanks, Clinton, for NAFTA - can't wait to see how Hill/Bill as Sec State handles this job - no conflicts of interest there...right?

The only way to get on the right track is to absolutely unify to put into place a new party that is totally progressive and serious about real reforms. The current majority of Congress is paid for by lobbying groups and are never, never going to change.

What are we going to do about this? (at least socialism helps the people - capitalism is ruthless and totally without mercy to the working class). Of course, O'Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter selfish freaks plus the corporate media don't want us to organize for the people's interests.

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The West, for the last thirty years, has been plundering the planet and living on an overdraft
Posted by: outlook on Feb 10, 2009 3:35 AM   
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And the result is bankruptcy. How is it that only we 'greens' saw it coming? Why did the 'greeds' choose to live in denial? Time for the West to stop its hedgmony and get its house in order.

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Grow food and hunker down to outlast functioning government
Posted by: Jasonix on Feb 10, 2009 5:03 AM   
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I hope that Obama's stimulus package saves the economy and that we're filling up our gas tanks with bio-diesel from algae by 2010. But I wouldn't plan on it. Things look like they're heading toward system-wide failure. The shut-down of certain state governments seems imminent. This may be followed by an increasingly dysfunctional federal government as it becomes apparent that the foreigners are mired in too many of their own problems to continue to bail us out by buying our bonds.

At some point, someone is going to have to say that the system is broken and that we have to start taking direct action to save our own lives. That means growing our own food rather than trusting some big corporation to truck it in from 2,000 miles away. That means cooperating with our neighbors for mutual support and protection. That means starting to build a local economy of barter and trade. Obviously, we're not going to grow enough food in little garden plots on quarter-acre parcels of land, so communities are going to have to cooperate to bring abandoned farmland back to life. The idea that we're all part of some big competitive game where there are winners and losers is going to have to give way to a people working together in a coordinated fashion to just survive.

Good luck with that, America.

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Never thought "Mad Max" would become a documentary....
Posted by: Animal on Feb 10, 2009 5:19 AM   
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...Looks like that's where we're headed.

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The Real World
Posted by: kick on Feb 10, 2009 5:31 AM   
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Welcome to the real world folks..these new recruits to the growing ranks of the poor and destitute are beginning to taste and experience what many Americans have known for years. There have been countless poor people not living the American dream for decades. They do not have degrees and have never had a prominent position in high society. Where were these new recruits when so many elderly have been eating dog food and freezing to death for decades now? Maybe this is what it is going to take to wake up this sick country. As more and more of the main stream fall to the level that so many have known for years it is this writer's hope that they will be received with understanding and the hope that the new recruits will be more sensitive to others.

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RE: Keeping Workers Employed. What's the difference -----
Posted by: symcokid on Feb 10, 2009 9:11 AM   
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if one is working or not? Even when I was employed there was no way to get ahead, it is a losing battle. The price of most everything is priced out of reach, the government wants us to keep striving to get ahead but always keeping it unattainable. No wonder we are in a depression and that's what the present status is.

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Karma at work - we are being punished for imposing war-criminals like Bush
Posted by: MeyravLevine on Feb 10, 2009 5:55 AM   
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on the world.

I had to lay-off few people last month. One of the guys (middle-aged man) I fired was almost in tears. His wife is on disability and he has diabetes. He asked me how was he supposed to provide healthcare for his family?

I couldn't say anything. Nobody is safe.

We are so fucked!

I hope Reagan is burning in hell along with the fraud Milton Friedman.

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Don't click on that link (IDENTITY THEFT!)
Posted by: GuitarBill on Feb 10, 2009 12:02 PM   
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This asshole is not trying to protect your privacy; he's trying to steal your identity.

If you click on his "Privacy Center" hyperlink, the server the link points to will install a keylogger on your computer, which is used to steal your credit card number, SSN, etc.

Please, report the comment to Alternet's staff.

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Never Trust What They Tell You
Posted by: FoonTheElder on Feb 10, 2009 7:30 AM   
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After going through 15 restructurings, spin-offs, sales, mergers, acquisitions and layoffs in the past 20 years, I have learned two things.

Never trust what your employers tell you.
and
Never trust what your government tells you.

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DEFINITELY NOT PLEASURE READING
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 10, 2009 7:33 AM   
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But I read every story. I've been out of work twice over the years but I've never known times to be this bad. In the past there's almost always been a way to circumvent the system and find work. It's not a time to conform. Long shots have been known to pay off. The computer search is OK but not the only way to go. Technology can be quite limiting. Your own ideas are probably a better way to go. E-mailing resumes is fine but using the computer as a way to find a job fills time but the results are not impressive. There's much more information at your local library and they're more than willing to help. When in doubt, however silly it seems, just do it. When you have an idea and people tell you how crazy you are, run with the idea. You're probably onto something. For as much as we love to bash the government, they are hiring. Alternet's idea to rum these stories is a good one. They ought to do it at least weekly. It keeps readers in touch with what's really happening. In case there's any doubt in their minds. Thanks, ANNA

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My husband and I had to move from small town to the suburbs just to get employed.
Posted by: CarlaWaters on Feb 10, 2009 8:11 AM   
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Right now, Washington isn't facing recession but we don't know how long that will hold. We work in DC but live some distance away. Amazingly, most folks even further out west in Northern VA travel to DC to work as their local small towns offer virtually nothing in their fields. Before I moved, I was unemployed while my husband could only get a part time position back in a small town in Louisiana. Both mine and my husband's parents tell us that it just gets worse in their small town. Worse, most of the younger ones in their small town move out while the remaining ones either do a Walmart job or sign up in the military, either as a soldier or a contractor and its become more of the latter than the former. The elderly move in because they can afford it but it's bound to be tough for them without assistance from the young who themselves are struggling to keep afloat.

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Changing perceptions
Posted by: penstamen on Feb 10, 2009 9:48 AM   
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On the mainstream news shows, we see working class people dealing with unemployment and foreclosure, but the comments made to this article challenge the notion that this crisis is hitting only people who for whatever reason never got that big degree or specialized training. It's hitting every level of our society, except for the very few at the very top who are taking obscene amounts of money from the rest of us. A degree doesn't safeguard you; training doesn't safeguard you; private sector jobs, government jobs, self-employment, nothing safeguards you. Scary, scary times. We must all pull together and do whatever we can, use whatever skills and resources we possess to help our neighbors & our communities survive.

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no satisfaction in sayin' it...
Posted by: DaBear on Feb 10, 2009 10:04 AM   
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but welcome middlings to the lower-class suck.

Now you know what we been feelin' since 1989. Now do you finally believe us?

This entire crisis is a matter of paper and system. Every reasonable person knows the solution to poorly written paper and a dysfunctional system: you burn it and start over.

But for the owning class who insist we all keep the paper and the system-craptasm, we could solve this pretty well.

We need to move beyond "hope" to effect real change, the kind that fixes things rather than allows the country to burn in favor of a few mansions and their occupants.

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Thia is "let them eat cake" in the 21st century
Posted by: charles000 on Feb 10, 2009 10:50 AM   
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I remember back in the mid 80's, when the film Wall Street came out, with the famous line from the Gordon Gecko character, "Greed is good". That was the mind set. I met people in the business world who lived this model, who would laugh at suggestions about ethics and standards in corporate governance, that such was only for stupid and gullible people.

I remember the savings and loan scandal, and later the Enron debacle, which was a tip of an enormous iceberg that is now much more visible.

I don't know to what extreme people can be pushed before they resort to desperate means to stay alive, feed their families . . . but pushed far enough, and people will eventually do what they have to do, no matter how extreme.

I have great respect for President Obama, I have no doubt he is trying to work out the best compromise realistically possible to turn this economy around, but I would suggest that there is a quiet rage brewing out there, which may not remain quiet.

I would offer that people want to see some justice here. Bernie Maddoff is just one of many who should be looking at serious hard time in prison. What I would want to see is some of these so-called financial wizards on Wall Street, under arrest, being led away in hand cuffs, and facing very serious time, if not life sentences in federal prison.

Would this directly change the quality of life for the millions who are now unemployed or about to join their ranks? Directly, no - but it would go a long way toward establishing some form of trust and faith in the system as most once believed such to be.

Right now, I would offer that such trust and faith is at an all time low, and we are going to have to see this restored if there is to be any realistic chance for long term recovery from the disaster we are now in.

Without that trust and faith, all bets are off.

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RE: Sharing Your Home. Have to check them for 'hoof and mouth' disease first.
Posted by: symcokid on Feb 10, 2009 12:03 PM   
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Would simply have to make sure you take on good looking couples only.

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Punished by EVICTION?
Posted by: lsmart on Feb 14, 2009 8:09 PM   
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"Those that refused to share their space would be rightfully punished by eviction."

Kick even more people out on the street...yeah, that's brilliant.

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services rendered
Posted by: cbishopp on Feb 10, 2009 11:20 AM   
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These are all terrible stories, but as naive as this might sound, it does not have to be this way. Obama and his team are keeping the debt alive. They are trying to save a system that doesn't work, a system based on slavery and inequality, a system where poverty is a necessary component in order to feed the ever decreasing number of elite wealthy citizens.
Obviously there are some big things happening.
We are tripling our money supply in four months time. Major energy producing resources are controlled by multinationals who relocated their own headquarters OUT of this country, (along with a fleet of manufacturing companies) five years ago. Our natural resources are being mismanaged and our food supplies are not localized and based on the price of OIL.
There is a middleman in every transaction in which you participate.
This is a con, a sting much like war itself where wealth and resources are reallocated and the masses are left to starve.
But the rest of the world has been starving for many years and America was the elite. Remember when just the price of a cup of coffee would feed a starving child in India? How many people even dared to realize that they were part of the same system and that one day they too would fall?
This system, I believe, is physically manifested as the monetary system. It is based on currency but most of it exists as book keeping entries in banks and digits on computer screens completing billions of transactions a second.
Our currency is created by debt. In a speech today Obama, himself, stated that credit is the lifeblood of our economy. Credit is debt, debt to banks and private lenders who control the creation and value of your currency.
Currency created through the faith and credit of the United States where no debt is attached would solve this problem overnight.
Chartered State banks would borrow this money at a low interest rate and fund local projects designed for the communities present, not for the profit of a company located overseas. Education, health care, safe food production, community water and energy programs, equal housing programs, all directed by the community for the community. Interest would be spent back into the community it serves not funneled into private coffers.
This currency would be required to pay all taxes and ALL taxes would funnel back through the government and fund more public projects.
The workforce would be engaged in the services that provide a better living standard for the community as apposed to a consumer based population bent on the quest for goods and services that result in high levels of waste, pollution and the isolation of the individual.
Though highly oversimplified the idea is to remove the middleman from your currency creation. Remove the middleman from the services your community requires to survive and thrive. Remove the hands that profit unnecessarily from your hospitalization and health care.
Globalization is NOT the answer. Global awareness is.
We are watching a dying system push all of it's efforts toward survival and a possible result of this crisis could be the complete breakdown of the dollar and the development of currencies controlled by private continental or hemisphere banks backed by a massive UN Military Complex.
Why does this have to happen?

Kill the debt.
Reinvent your community.

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Oh, the pain
Posted by: astudent on Feb 10, 2009 11:50 AM   
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I feel for these people in the article, and for all those whose voices are not heard. I was a child in the 1980's when the unemployment rate in Lorain County, Ohio (just west of the city of Cleveland) reached 20% - the highest in the country at that time. My parents and I moved to northern Indiana because Dad couldn't get a job in Lorain, and Mom's parents in Elkhart offered to help him get a job using some of their connections.

Fast forward 25 years: I now live in South Bend, Indiana, where I have lived since my parents moved here in the '80's. South Bend is located in St. Joseph county, which shares a border (our east border, their west border) with Elkhart County - the location of the 15.9%/highest unemployment rate in the country.

People cross the county border for purposes of work all the time. Those of us who don't drive don't have that option, but now I have the problem that I am competing with people from Elkhart for jobs here in my own county. I don't grudge those folks jobs; they have families to feed. However, their presence in the job market means that students like me, who need part-time work that is flexible about class schedules, are pretty much out of luck. No employer who actually is hiring (an almost-unheard of phenomenon right now anyway) is going to take a college student who needs schedule accommodations when there are so many workers in need of jobs who will work any hours they have to in order to keep a home and food. Again, I don't grudge those folks any job they can find. I need a job too, but I don't have a family to support, so it's not as critical for me. It sure is frustrating though.

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Am I my brothers keeper, yes I am.........
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Feb 10, 2009 11:54 AM   
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This is not only saddening, but maddening, frustrating, and it has come to a point where we need to start the demonstrations!!! Both Rethugnikans and their Democratic collaborators need to feel the heat of their stoopid ideological stand! Enough, real people in the real world are suffering!

Cutting money to the states forces cuts to teachers - affecting class sizes, police - crime anyone? firefighters - don't have a fire, construction - naah we don't need our roads fixed! With jobs - we the people spend more money than the rich and the corporate, but you idiots don't see that! Hey, I've got another idea - let us cut Star Wars from the Defense budget - it hasn't worked anyway, or how about those subsidies to Agri-business, or wait a minute - how about all of those "pork bridge to no-where projects" that all of you have injected into the appropriations budgets over the years!!!!

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I saw the writing on the wall
Posted by: drfun on Feb 10, 2009 11:58 AM   
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when Reagan was elected, that the USA wanted to stick its head in the sand and pretend everything was going to turn out like his B rated movies, OK in the end.

How disappointed I was in America not wanting having the forethought to see the Carter Energy Policy would be a wise and secure way for the country's future.

I never went to college, bought a home or vehicle using credit. My upbringing taught me that buying things 2nd hand was a prudent thing to do. Though I was called un-motivated and even lazy while women thought me not-interested in marriage and low paying intermittent jobs being non-stable or reputable in nature.

I didn't fall for the American Dream lifestyle of possess now, pay later, have contributed little $'s into the MIC through taxes and have not been burdened with a woman who expected this or alimony or child support payments from a mistake(s).

I was forced out of the U.S.A. a few years back to find employment in developing country's as an ESL teacher with no regrets with this decision one iota. I've been able to see the world and enjoy other cultures that must live on much less than any westerner could imagine.

I've reduced my annual carbon imprint, while providing my students with a alternative lifestyle choice of living simply so others can simply live mantra. I also want people of the world to see that not all Americans support its wasteful consumption habits or mis-guided foreign policy.

The times that I have been back to see family and friends through the self-appointed Bu$h years years had me looking at a country I don't recognize after 9/11. Those who were duped into the agenda of spending our way out of this mess have accrued a spiraling out-of-control debt that future generations of "Loved Ones" will only be paying a fraction on its interest.

I'm Relieved to know I have no prodigy burdened to bear the stupid clusterfuck that has been created by so called "Financial Wizard's", whose CEO's lost more money last year than during most company's lifetimes and their greed fueled fiascoes were still rewarded.

I witnessed many I know get suckered into the Student Loan - Corporate Ladder - Junk Bond - Dot.Com - Day Trade - Sub Prime - CDO's, and was told I'm missing out on some of the best times in American history. All I could do inside was think how foolish most are being and will regret their past decisions.

I'm the only one I know who hasn't experienced a down-sizing, out-sourcing, off-shoring, foreclosed upon, over-worked, under-paid, un-insured, situation. Who wasn't swindled from with what little I possess and still a few $'s in my pocket left over for a rainy day.

And didn't have to pay out the nose for a piece of paper or dream that in the end has screwed most of the people who were gullible into believing what a "Family Values" wife and political party swapping, senile snitch sap of a man Ronnie really was.

With his "Peace Dividend" turning out to be a "Peace Deficit" that will be looked upon as the starting point of the most immoral and unethical of times in American history.

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The Real World: Pt. II
Posted by: Lily H. on Feb 10, 2009 7:20 PM   
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Tonight, my local newscast aired a segment on "Creative Ways to Make Money". You'll never guess what great ideas were shown - how to donate a head of hair (for long-haired females, one woman made $2K from
her locks) mystery shoppers (a real scam if I've heard
of any), and giving plasma. Wow, that'll keep that roof over your head and that SUV full of gas!!

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OK, now what
Posted by: mamaham03 on Feb 11, 2009 9:41 AM   
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OK, I think anyone with a pulse and that knows how to read has figured out that things are really bad and that our status quo is up for grabs. Where are all the contingency plans? Why haven't we been reading about all the communities that are joining together? The shared housing? The victory gardens? I guess we all feel better if we know that it is bad or worse for others? Seems to me at least 2 or 3 families could live comfortably in some of the McMansions not far from my neighborhood...that we would be better off growing food instead of growing grass? I guess some people need their period of mourning for the 20th century lifestyles, but the sooner you wake up and change the easier time you will have surviving. Good luck everyone, hope to see you on the other side.......

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The newly unemployed have it rough?
Posted by: notmom on Feb 12, 2009 5:03 PM   
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This almost certainly is true, but please - remember those of us who have already been forgotten. We don't make headlines, because we haven't been on the unemployment rolls for a long time - in my case, 10 years. Yeah, I "took advantage" of my "free time" to go back to school and finish the bachelor's degree I started back in the '70s. But consider - in light of recent AlterNet comments on "indentured servitude" for students - that, if I pay off my student loans according to "the plan" I'll make the last payment at age 73. I used up my "retirement" savings a long time ago, wasted it on stupid things like buying food, or gas to go to interviews with companies that told me I was overqualified. A high school diploma is overqualified? For what?!? Just because I can read and write and know my alphabet? And, oh, yes, I can make change from a dollar without taking off my shoes. And now that the economy has tanked worse than at any time since the Great Depression (which, thankfully, I'm not quite old enough to remember), what, realistically, are my chances of changing my employment status in a positive way? I'd move to Canada (at least they offer medical care for free) but I can't stand the cold - and I can't afford the gas to get there! Worse, after 10 unemployed years, I still get nasty calls from creditors that, 15 years ago, would have written off the debt and left me alone. And if I'm unwary enough to actually speak to them, they ask really invasive questions, like "How are you paying your other bills?" Hello? Stupid - I don't HAVE any "bills" - I live in one room, with my mother, who's on a fixed, reduced, retirement income herself. The only thing I get is a room with heat, water, and light - I have to come up with food on my own. Now there's a full-time job.

So don't expect me to have too much sympathy for the newly unemployed. At least they've been working for the last 10 years while I looked for a job.

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suck up
Posted by: pacto on Feb 15, 2009 11:21 AM   
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america....you are being retrained

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