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Michael Phelps Has No Business Apologizing for Taking Bong Hits
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Plastered all over the Internet right now is a photo of Michael Phelps smoking marijuana out of a bong. Phelps put out a statement saying that he acted in a youthful and inappropriate way and promises it won't happen again. Different people are weighing in on the possible impact of this photo on the gold medalist's $100 million endorsement deals.
Here are a few of my observations on Phelps' bong hits:
Phelps Is in Good Company
Phelps struck another blow to the myth that marijuana smokers are lazy couch potatoes. Here is the guy who has won more gold medals than anyone in history, and obviously his health and accomplishments are not hindered by smoking some pot. In addition to his swimming skills, he is a successful businessman who has turned his swimming skills into an enormous public relations platform and money generator. Successful and honorable people who have smoked some pot are all around us, from President Barack Obama to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
Phelps Apology Was Unnecessary
While Phelps' statement said he acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, he did not pretend to have a drug problem and promise to go to rehab. So many times when celebrities are caught with drugs, they give tearful statements and promise to get help. Phelps doesn't appear to have a drug problem, and there is no reason for him to take up valuable treatment slots if he doesn't have a drug problem.
Does it Hurt or Help His Image?
While some "experts" are predicting that Phelps bong hits could cost him millions, I could also see it humanizing him and making him even more popular with a large section of the public. Phelps' swimming accomplishments have always been awe-inspiring, but who could relate to the guy who swam eight hours a day and had to eat 23 hamburgers every day to compensate for the calories he burns off in training? Seeing him with his hat on backwards taking a hit made me feel like I could relate to the guy more. With half of high school seniors having tried marijuana before they graduate, it is not clear that this photo is going to disillusion his fan base.
Pot Use Doesn't Discriminate, but Our Pot Laws Do
While society has made some progress on tolerating pot consumption, there are still many laws on the books that cause more harm than the smoking of marijuana. Close to 800,000 people were arrested for marijuana last year, and the vast majority for only possessing small amounts. Harry Levine and Deborah Small put out a report last year that found that between 1998 and 2007, New York City police arrested 374,900 people for low-level, misdemeanor marijuana offenses. That is more than eight times the number of arrests on the same charges for the previous 10-year period (between 1988 and 1997), when 45,300 people were picked up for having small amounts of marijuana.
Researchers also found stark racial disparities in who NYPD officers chose to arrest for marijuana offenses. The report found that 83 percent of those charged in these cases were black or Latino, despite equal marijuana use between whites and nonwhites. The discrepancy, the researchers asserted, is because NYPD officers stopped and frisked blacks and Latinos at a dramatically higher rate.
Once someone is convicted of a drug offense, they can lose college financial aid, food stamps, public housing and, in some cases, even voting rights. Money wasted and lives ruined … and for what?
Phelps Can Continue to be a Role Model
I like Phelps and don't think his bong hit should hurt him. If he truly wants to be a role model, he can take his comments and platform to the next level. He can say simply, "Yes, that was me smoking marijuana, and the laws that ruin peoples' lives for using marijuana should be debated and changed."
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Posted by: Xynyx on Feb 2, 2009 3:26 PM
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Here's what I do care about:
Obama admitted to smoking pot, and he is now the President, which means, among other things, he has all sorts of security clearances, etc. It's time for (recreational or medicinal) marijuana use (not abuse) to become a non-factor in American life.
Make it legal. Amnesty and release from prison for for everyone ever convicted of possession or use.
Make it illegal to ask about it on employment applications, gun purchase background checks, etc.
This shit should be over already.
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Posted by: Defenestrator on Feb 2, 2009 3:32 PM
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Posted by: Scientz on Feb 2, 2009 3:45 PM
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Legalization isn't going far enough, in my opinion. What is needed is an efficient and legal method of government manufacture and distribution, so that high-quality pot can--with a hefty tax--still be made available for less than $35 for an eighth of an ounce. Do that and you'll not only undercut the black market, but you could likely put the country back in the black within a few years.
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» RE: he is being discriminated against, there is nothing wrong with pot
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Posted by: armorypk on Feb 2, 2009 6:08 PM
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Posted by: markmarko on Feb 2, 2009 7:11 PM
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I thought all marijuana smokers were useless slugs who have no motivation and watch tv all day, knowing they have thrown their entire life away.
Perhaps this incident will shed light on the fact that the 'facts' we've all been told about how marijuana ruins lives is all untrue.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Feb 2, 2009 7:47 PM
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We're all adults, we make our own choices, and we live with the consequences (unless you happen to have been born with a Senate seat).
Phelps can do whatever the hell he wants. He's still a swimming champ, and next to Lance Armstrong, probably America's premier athlete in my lifetime.
Bong or not.
The only reservation I have is with those who'd sell to minors. If you try to f*ck with our kids before they're old enough to decide, you deserve to rot. That, in my opinion, goes equally for dope dealers and peddlers of religion, though my opinions ain't quite so popular with either of your religions, I 'spect.
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» RE: $100 million, huh? I'd do it for $10M, or $1M.
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Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL on Feb 3, 2009 1:08 AM
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"Yeah?"
"And?"
"So?"
"What?"
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Posted by: bruceclark on Feb 3, 2009 4:20 AM
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I'm truly sorry everyone.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Feb 3, 2009 4:37 AM
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Granted I admired John Lennon, but not in hopes of becoming him ( that delusion resulted in his murder). What I admired was his own sense of self, regardless of what others thought. I appreciated the fact he was outspoken and often rebelled against injustice. Just because he may have been addicted to herione, did not encourage me to follow suit. It was a human fraility which only made his accomplishements that much more attainable in spite of it.So regardless of what 'weakness' I had, I could still achieve anything I set my mind to.
Parents nowadays fail to instill self reliance, esteem, determination and even purpose in their children through their own example or behaviors. Instead condemning others who they expect to teach these traits for them.
I never need a Rock Star or a Celebrity to convince me I could do or be anything I wanted. My parents had taught me that, and infact required I do so. I had to make the grades, never allowed to blame the teachers methods of instruction. I failed it was MY Fault. when 'citizenship' grades were reported, Those were of great concern (and consequences). Had I conducted myself appropriately in class and towards the teacher. Had I shown civic responsibility and community mindedness? Had I worked well with others and displayed empathy to others?
they never expect my teachers to teach me such things, they had already set down the basics at home. They just wanted to know I continued to demonstate them when out of their sight. I and my sisters always got good citizenship marks, because we knew if we hadn't Our asses were grass.
So parents stop looking to blame your kids bad behavior on others, it is YOU who should be your kids Instructors and Role models, and the ones who instillED enough self confidence that they need not look to 'stars' for it.
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Posted by: bubbleburster04 on Feb 3, 2009 5:04 AM
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Phelps could have cleared up a LOT of unreliable and blatantly false propaganda about pot.
Pot has not "ruined his life" or "sapped his ambition". Apparently just the opposite.
Maybe he would have lost some endorsements, but perhaps he would have picked up others from some more enlightened companies.
Instead he caved, and bowed down to the almighty dollar and sold his soul out to corporate interests. Way to go, Mikey.
Why could he not, instead, have spoken out for the MILLIONS of professional people who smoke pot on a regular basis and come to NO HARM whatsoever, either personally or professionally?
I, myself, am acquainted with, or know of, SCORES of working professionals who smoke on a regular basis and have for DECADES, with no discernible harm; executives in multinational corporations, teachers, doctors, accountants, social workers, POLICE.
Get OVER it, ferchissakes. Marijuana CAN be used responsibly and IS, by more folks than anyone realizes.
BTW, lest anyone think I am a stupid stoner who is imagining things, ah No. I myself do not smoke for several reasons, one of which is random drug testing at my place of employment. But I fully support people's right to do so in a reasonable and responsible way.
So Mr. Phelps are you going to stand up and "be a man" or FOLD UP and SUCK UP to your corporate masters?
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Posted by: Mickey Allums on Feb 3, 2009 5:12 AM
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As a reader of Alternet pointed out, "Why doesn't she look at the results from the people on Change. org, and use those large number of Americans who voted for drug reform, as her tool for directly informing Obama of the Citizens desire.
Tony Newman's article is an outstanding compilation of facts and observations, that should be forwarded to Peloski by the CEO of Alternet, along with the readers comments on this situation. Thanks, Mickey Allums, Killeen, Texas
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Feb 3, 2009 7:06 AM
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...because *having control over your body & your choices is the goal of power*
Why is ANYONE claiming control over YOUR VICES??
obviously, its in YOUR BEST INTERESTS: I mean JUST LOOK AT THE WRECK that Devil Weed made of that poor athlete?! Phelps is a WRECK, a shambling tatters of a human being... how DARE he decide to make a living & make his own decisions about how he enjoys his body?! I mean... what athlete knows their own body?
Vice
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Think about it...
The Thieves of Virtue: legislating morality undermines representative government.
really, VICE is contextual:
* gender
* ethnicity
* age
* race...
all pay a part in morals. but VICE, should never be *criminalized*, especially in a nation where PRIVACY has been abolished.
Who is PERFECT ENOUGH to represent THE PEOPLE or a populist reform when there is neither privacy nor the Will to preserve privacy in society?
Who stands *for the People* when Money & Power exert corrosive controls to extend their oppression & corruption?
You've been *had*
Nobody is immune to *vice* as VICE is about how ONE PERSON privately & personally determines *how to enjoy their own body*...
Naked Truth: Civil Rights & CNN coverage of "F.B.I. biometric database - 'Server in the Sky'"
...& THAT is how THE MORAL MAJORITY ensured Money & Power will kill representative government for The Peoples who seek JUSTICE, Freedom & Human Rights.
"corruption is why we win":
"Yell Fire!": Bush to freeze peace activist assets? - Executive Order to "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq"
NSA's Domestic Spying Grows As Agency Sweeps Up Data
Diamond Age? - Kids, RFID Chips... & Minority Reporting?!: thoughts on the new US Project Hostile Intent (PHI)
Watching the "Ownership Society": follow-ups on Shareholder Surveillance...
CIA agents insure against torture lawsuits
I mean, employers will tell you the want to DRUG TEST, because it would LOWER INSURANCE CLAIMS...
& OBAMA ... told you last week... he intends to CENTRALIZE & computerize your health records.
gee... think about that...
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Posted by: sausage on Feb 3, 2009 7:16 AM
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And what was the motive of the twerp who took the pic? Did he or she receive any financial incentive from the Brit online tabloid news of The World.co.uk? Is he or she merely a sophomoric, self-aggrandizing *sshole who posted the photo in question on his or her Facebook or MySpace profile for a little street cred? Does he or she have the guts to come forward and apologize to Michael Phelps for helping him make a mess of his life?
And what about the U.S. Olympic Committee (USOC)? What a stinking pile of hypocrisy! They come out with a cockamamie statement saying how disappointed they are in Michael Phelps, he's a role model after all, who broke the hearts of millions of little kiddies. Now those sentitive littl b*stards are going to quite swimming because Michael Phelps took a few bong hits! Horsesh*t!
The clowns at the USOC conveniently forget, in this instance, that one of its major sponsors is Anheuser-Busch! Here's what the USOC said in a press release last summer about its relationship with Anheuser-Bush: "Anheuser Busch has proven to be an invaluable partner to the U.S. Olympic Committee, and its support of the U.S. Olympic Team helps enable our athletes to pursue their dreams," said USOC Chief Executive Officer Jim Scherr. "The continued partnership between these two iconic, American brands through 2012 reflects Anheuser-Busch's commitment to supporting tomorrow's Olympic athletes, as well as the strength and value of the U.S. Olympic Team brand and the Olympic Movement worldwide
Anheuser-Busch Renews U.S. Olympic Team Sponsorship, July 17, 2008, teamusa.org
So, don't get caught drinking or drugging, Olympic hopefuls! You are no longer human. You are semi-divine! You are living secular saints! Gee, but I hope you never have to sh*t! Gods don't, so I expect you won't either.
While our Olympic athletes are busting butts for Olympic gold the rest of us in couch potato-land will be watching their every move, cheering their victories and commiserating in their defeats with a Bud Light in one hand and a bong in the other.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 3, 2009 7:56 AM
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Nobody would have asked him to apologize for being caught with a highball in his hand, would they? (Well, maybe, but I doubt it ...)
The fact is, this is a non-story. Nobody but the media, hungry for anything that can help them avoid putting anything on the air that might actually impact people, and a few "church lady" fundamentalists, gives a damn about recreational pot use.
Yo, Michael. You won EIGHT gold medals at the Olympic games; you go ahead a take a hit off that bong.
Ya-hoo.
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Posted by: Johnism on Feb 3, 2009 10:15 AM
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Famous people. Stop apologizing for pot use.
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Posted by: bubbleburster04 on Feb 3, 2009 10:17 AM
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Feb 3, 2009 10:42 AM
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Hundreds of sports figures pushed cigarettes,and they killed millions of people.
Sports figures also push booze,what does that do for us? Well in 'legitimizes' drunken brawls,rapes,molestations,manslaughter and driving drunk. These two are legal and they kill us. The Gov't lets it go on. Why? They make billions of dollars and reduce the surplus population.
Why is hemp illegal? Because it promotes Peaceful relations,is theraputically active.
Two thing this gov't doesn't want, Peace and Health.
No now is not the time to apologize,it's time to stand up,speak-out,and get your congresspreson to make law H.R.5843. a bill that makes it legal,for consenting ADULTS to smoke,use,possess,and non-profit transfer 100 grams of Marijuana ( Hemp for those who don't know any better)
Plus Hemp is a major threat to big oil,coal mining,and big pharm.
Why? You get cleaner burning diesel fuel from hemp,cleaner burning charcoal from hemp,and in it's natural state, the most theraputically active substance known to man. Our DEA said that,so even the Feds know Hemp is far less harmful than the bullshit you can buy over the counter.
Remember your government makes money off of rapes,fist fights, civil unrest by getting increased taxes for police budgets.
If your government doesn't work for Peace,it is your enemy
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Posted by: JBoner on Feb 3, 2009 11:01 AM
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http://tinyurl.com/b2aqg3
Here's an excerpt. Feel free to read the full post and comment! (The Hill is an insider paper from members of Congress and their staff.)
Sure, there will be some who will say that this latest chapter in Phelp’s life is deserving of criticism because the 14-time gold medalist is sending a poor message to young children. And what message would that be? That you can occasionally smoke marijuana and still be successful in life. Well sorry if the truth hurts.
Fact is, most Americans who use pot do so for the same reasons — and in the same manner — as do those who drink alcohol. According to a recent University of Alberta study, the majority of adults who use cannabis do so recreationally to “enhance relaxation.” Researchers concluded: “[M]ost adult marijuana users regulate use to their recreational time and do not use compulsively. Rather, their use is purposively intended to enhance their leisure activities and manage the challenges and demands of living in contemporary modern society. Generally, participants reported using marijuana because it enhanced relaxation and concentration, making a broad range of leisure activities more enjoyable and pleasurable.”
No doubt Michael Phelps indulged in the use of marijuana for these very same reasons. He ought not to be condemned for it nor branded a criminal for his actions.
For that matter, neither should anyone else.
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Posted by: JackieGiles on Feb 3, 2009 12:53 PM
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The practic of elevating athletes to the status of role models simply because they're physically gifted and burdening them with that label,is ludicrous. So is the thinking of any person who buys a product because an athlete,actor,politician,etc.says he/she uses it in order to make a profit.
IF anyone should be upset, it's his coach and/or his mother.
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Posted by: wolfbite on Feb 3, 2009 12:54 PM
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 3, 2009 1:06 PM
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The UK Government changed the Law, in direct opposition to its own scientific advisors.
The News of the World could have published this at any time since they got the pictures in November. They were offerred massive inducements not to publish (see their website)
It was published to make the UK Government look like complete idiots - and gives the impression to kids - "smoke dope and win 14 gold medals"
Hasn't this made the Headline News in US Mainstream Media?
How the hell can it not?
Is US Society completely controlled by Fascists?
The hypocrisy is Deafening
(I see it was published on page D8 of the New York edition)
So presumably buried.
Oh how shocking.
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Posted by: cbishopp on Feb 3, 2009 4:39 PM
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Michael Phelps should not have to apologize but I understand his reticence in the face of so many uninformed, fearful people who are criticizing his every move.
Let's just make sure he doesn't try to take home the gold in any pie eating contests!
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Feb 3, 2009 6:42 PM
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This is how they keep us divided and conquered, suppressed and suffering. Nothing will change this vicious cycle of vitriol and violence, except for a truly rebellious revolution that will bring down the status quo, hardcore capitalism and religious zealotry.
Most likely, Prez Obama will prove to be nothing more than a cover-up for the Evil Lords, and more of the same-old, same-old. Many progressive heteros still don't get it regarding gay marriage, thus don't think it's anywhere near as important an issue as, say, war or global warming. But it is precisely the matter of homophobia that is the Achilles heel of all other vital issues...and as long as this wound is ignored and allowed to fester, nothing good shall ever be achieved on any other matter.
And the resulting terror, chaos, death and devastation that will surely come if homophobia continues to be celebrated as something "godly" and "patriotic"...will be (dare I say it) more than well deserved.
Gay bashing has become a national sport, every bit as Amerikan as Mom and apple pie: a perfect fusion of fundamentalist ideology and Amerikan idolatry (a.k.a. "patriotism"). If you don't care to turn it around, if you don't bother to speak out whenever someone cries "f*ggot", then may the blood on your hands spread to your children, your children's children, and to all who are near and dear to your patriotic little heart.
Me, my conscience is clear. So this little illegal-in-30-states-and-hated-in-all-50 queer is gonna light up a joint of illegal Mary Jane, and download some illegal videos on his legally purchased laptop that no doubt was assembled in some godforsaken sweatshop by the humble hands of an arthritic sweet lady or docile, clueless (and unhappy) child.
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Posted by: Wild Will on Feb 3, 2009 7:53 PM
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Posted by: techcafe on Feb 3, 2009 8:06 PM
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Phelps is an ATHLETE... not anyone's fucking role model. it's HIS life, and he should not have to apologize to anyone for what he does on his own time, period.
furthermore, parents ought to PARENT their OWN damn kids, and leave OTHER people to live their lives... in PRIVACY & PEACE.
and so what, Phelps smoked a bit of ganja to chillout and relax, like many of us do. the world's got *actual problems* that need fixing... so let's move on, shall we! this 'world exclusive' story is nothing more than invasive tabloid trash, and entirely irrelevant to the *important* issues that the world is facing right now.
btw, it seems to me that so many people, particularly the media, are like vultures, always trying to dig up dirt on people, tear them down and destroy their lives. it's disgusting.
i hope the jerk who submitted that foto of Phelps to the tabloids gets a much-deserved punch in the face from Phelps' friends.
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Posted by: jadedhope on Feb 3, 2009 8:09 PM
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Posted by: gellero1 on Feb 3, 2009 8:22 PM
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All psychedelics should be legal.
And even if they're not...available.
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Posted by: jrobertclark on Feb 3, 2009 9:20 PM
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So what. Just another pampered overpaid dumb jock who got caught and it makes headlines 'cause he's worth too-many millions, doesn't contribute to the common good (ever see him maybe volunteer for water sports for the disabled?), and is considered a "hunk."
Big fucking deal.
I am so tired of the media's preoccupation with "celebrity" weasels like this guy, A-Rod, the whole fucking overpaid lot of them.
Let's get real. The country is in a death spiral and we're all (not me anyway) in a hubbub about this dork.
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Feb 3, 2009 10:59 PM
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This is how they keep us divided and conquered, suppressed and suffering. Nothing will change this vicious cycle of vitriol and violence, except for a truly rebellious revolution that will bring down the status quo, hardcore capitalism and religious zealotry.
Most likely, Prez Obama will prove to be nothing more than a cover-up for the Evil Lords, and more of the same-old, same-old. Many progressive heteros still don't get it regarding gay marriage, thus don't think it's anywhere near as important an issue as, say, war or global warming. But it is precisely the matter of homophobia that is the Achilles heel of all other vital issues...and as long as this wound is ignored and allowed to fester, nothing good shall ever be achieved on any other matter.
And the resulting terror, chaos, death and devastation that will surely come if homophobia continues to be celebrated as something "godly" and "patriotic"...will be (dare I say it) more than well deserved.
Gay bashing has become a national sport, every bit as Amerikan as Mom and apple pie: a perfect fusion of fundamentalist ideology and Amerikan idolatry (a.k.a. "patriotism"). If you don't care to turn it around, if you don't bother to speak out whenever someone cries "f*ggot", then may the blood on your hands spread to your children, your children's children, and to all who are near and dear to your patriotic little heart.
Me, my conscience is clear. So this little illegal-in-30-states-and-hated-in-all-50 queer is gonna light up a joint of illegal Mary Jane, and download some illegal videos on his legally purchased laptop that no doubt was assembled in some godforsaken sweatshop by the humble hands of an arthritic sweet lady or docile, clueless (and unhappy) child.
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Posted by: iolanthe on Feb 4, 2009 7:40 AM
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Maybe, if we care so goddamned much about the nation's precious children, we should tell them the truth, instead of building a precarious structure of half-truths and propaganda to try to influence them away from experimenting with drugs.
For one thing, it doesn't work. By the time most bright kids are 11 or 12, they have figured out that this is nonsense and propaganda, about as convincing as the Santa Claus legend. If anything, the Reefer Madness rhetoric sets kids up to experiment with truly destructive drugs, like methamphetamine or heroin. They know the media position on marijuana is a hypocritical lie. Every kid in America knows someone who smokes pot who *isn't* a loser, so they figure every word they ever heard about drugs is a lie, and they try whatever they're offered.
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Posted by: Ledhed on Feb 4, 2009 9:36 AM
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Posted by: LeeAnnG on Feb 4, 2009 10:14 AM
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Like other posters above, I wonder what kind of person would take Phelps's picture and publish it. Does anyone know who this was and why he or she did it?
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Posted by: hgovernick on Feb 4, 2009 11:08 AM
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I would gladly pay $30 for a 20-pack cigarette-sized container of government manufactured joints - and no, I wouldn't grow it myself if it were legalized - too inconvenient.
I might imagine several hundreds of billions of dollars per year might be re-injected into our depleted treasury "instantly" if marijuana legalization passed in the U.S., not to mention presenting a dead-end brick-wall to the foreign drug-lords now bringing their wars inside our own borders.
Phelps and others are leading the way towards that end.
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Posted by: altnet307 on Feb 4, 2009 1:00 PM
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Posted by: altnet307 on Feb 4, 2009 1:08 PM
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was never prosecuted.Two set of laws is alive and well.
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Posted by: aahpat on Feb 4, 2009 1:18 PM
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THIS IS AMERICA, COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!
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Posted by: aahpat on Feb 4, 2009 1:30 PM
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What kind of roll model is that?
The war on drug policy leaves morals and ethics of addict dealers and gangsters as the only morals and ethics between drugs and American children.
What kind of roll model is that?
The war on drugs supports the anarchy of criminal gangs that need lots of guns to enforce and empower their trade fostering the proliferation of cheap and easy to get guns by any hood looking to escalate their criminality with deadly force.
What kind of roll model is that?
The black market economy created by the drug war provides America's sworn enemies, the Taliban, with 70% of their funding to buy bullets, bombs and suicide bombers that they direct at America and allied military.
What kind of roll model is that?
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Posted by: aahpat on Feb 4, 2009 1:36 PM
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TREASON! What kind of roll model is that?
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Posted by: aahpat on Feb 4, 2009 2:39 PM
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Then we will see how fast the prohibition cookie crumbles.
CElebrifi reports a run down of his sponsors and their positions on the non-event.
Here's a rundown of Phelps' sponsors, and their positions on the incident:Speedo - Sticking with him ("we know that Michael truly regrets his actions")Omega - sticking with him ("involves Michael Phelps's private life and is, as far as Omega is concerned, a nonissue" — the Swiss are awesome)Subway - "monitoring the situation," like it's some kind of ballistic missile attack, sources told the Wall Street JournalVisa - no wordKellogg - no wordNike - no wordA sports communications expert told AP that Phelps can't be seen with demon reefer ever again.."
I have an idea for supporting Mr. Phelps. Boycott Subway! Subway is a big time producer of munchies for American pot smokers and as such can and should be impacted for the lack of integrity and mealy mouthed support for this mega athlete.
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Posted by: smendler on Feb 5, 2009 6:36 AM
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Posted by: KeLe on Feb 5, 2009 1:11 PM
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http://www.reason.com/news/show/131438.html
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Posted by: James W. Harris on Feb 5, 2009 1:56 PM
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Drugs.
"The war on drugs has been an utter failure. [W]e need to rethink and
decriminalize our [nation's] marijuana laws."
-- Barack Obama, January 2004
"President-elect Obama is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana."
-- Change.com, Obama's post-election blog.
"Yes we can" -- say one thing before the election, and another afterwards.
(Source: Paul Armentano, NORML:
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/113384/ )
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Posted by: iolanthe on Feb 5, 2009 6:14 PM
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http://www2.kelloggs.com/ContactUs.aspx
Tell them how ridiculous this is.
And start boycotting their products.
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Posted by: JPeaslee on Feb 18, 2009 9:54 AM
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I have smoked cigarettes (which, by the way? Not that great). I have drank, and as you can see, I'm underage.
I don't think Phelp's screw-up was a huge deal, except that he did sign contracts saying that he would act as a role model, and the fact that he screwed up in such a STUPID WAY means that, yeah, he should face the music.
I also don't think pot is that bad. I mean, no one has ever died from pot. At least, not that I know of. It should be legalized.
But the whole "should or shouldn't it" question is not what's important here. He screwed up. It sucks, and we all screw up at some point, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be held accountable for his actions.
Oh, and I still think he's a great role model.
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