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In the Face of Economic Disaster, Republicans Have No Ideas

By Frank Rich, The New York Times. Posted February 2, 2009.


Instead of trying to help figure the way out of our economic mess, Republicans are busy trying to get in the good graces of Rush Limbaugh.

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Here's  a bottom line to keep you up at night: The economy is falling faster than Washington can get moving. President Obama says his stimulus plan will save or create four million jobs in two years. In the last four months of 2008 alone, employment fell by 1.9 million. Do the math.

The abyss is widening. Of the 30 companies in the Dow Jones industrial index, 22 have announced job cuts since October. Unemployment is up in all 50 states, with layoffs at both high-tech companies (Microsoft) and low (Caterpillar). The December job loss in retailing is the worst since at least 1939. The new-home sales rate has fallen to its all-time low since record-keeping began in 1963.

What are Americans still buying? Big Macs, Campbell’s soup, Hershey’s chocolate and Spam — the four food groups of the apocalypse.

The crisis is at least as grave as the one that confronted us — and, for a time, united us — after 9/11. Which is why the antics among Republicans on Capitol Hill seem so surreal. These are the same politicians who only yesterday smeared the patriotism of any dissenters from Bush’s “war on terror.” Where is their own patriotism now that economic terror is inflicting far more harm on their constituents than Saddam Hussein’s nonexistent W.M.D.?

The House stimulus bill is an inevitably imperfect hodgepodge-in-progress. Obama’s next move, a new plan to prevent the collapse of America’s banks, may prove more problematic still, especially given the subpar record of the new Treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner, in warding off calamity while at the New York Fed. No one should expect the Republicans to give the new president carte blanche, fall blindly into lock step or be “post-partisan.” (Though that’s exactly what the G.O.P. demanded of Democrats with Bush: You were either with him or with the terrorists.)

But you might think that a loyal opposition would want to pitch in and play a serious role at a time of national peril. Not by singing “Kumbaya” but by collaborating on possible solutions and advancing a policy debate that many Americans’ lives depend on. As Raymond Moley, of F.D.R.’s brain trust, said of the cross-party effort at the harrowing start of that presidency in March 1933, Hoover and Roosevelt acolytes “had forgotten to be Republicans or Democrats” as they urgently tried to rescue their country.

The current G.O.P. acts as if it — and we — have all the time in the world. It kept hoping in vain that the fast-waning Blago sideshow would somehow impale Obama or Rahm Emanuel. It has come perilously close to wishing aloud that a terrorist attack will materialize to discredit Obama’s reversals of Bush policy on torture, military tribunals and Gitmo. The party’s sole consistent ambition is to play petty politics to gum up the works.

If anything, the Republican Congressional leadership seems to be emulating John McCain’s September stunt of “suspending” his campaign to “fix” the Wall Street meltdown. For all his bluster, McCain in the end had no fixes to offer and sat like a pet rock at the White House meeting on the crisis before capitulating to the bailout. His imitators likewise posture in public about their determination to take action, then do nothing while more and more Americans cry for help.


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It may be time to declare the Republican Party a terrorist entity,
Posted by: and_abottleofrum on Feb 2, 2009 1:13 AM   
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illegalize it, systematically dismantle it, and prosecute the persistent obstructionists who affiliate with it.

The Republican Party will do anything to harm its political opponents, even stall emergency economic action. The Party is rotten and useless.

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» Are You Lost? Posted by: Ray Duray
» Nice points Ray Posted by: marid
» Enemy combatants Posted by: LMNOP
» Make that both Republicans and Democrats !! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
Wait! Hold on! THINK!
Posted by: madmax427 on Feb 2, 2009 1:51 AM   
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BOTH Demoncrats & Republicons, under Bush SCREWED the Public! Now BOTH Dems & Reps are attempting to SCREW the Public! Other than a new face, NOTHING has changed!

This article makes a grave error in that it ASSUMES They WANT to fix anything when immediate History SHOWS They DO NOT!

Furthermore, The new bill to construct atleast 6 FEMA "Emergency" facilities on Military Bases SHOWS Us what They REALLY want!

I want to know just HOW much We need to know before We SEE what is really happening! The Clank of the Cell Door closing behind Us?!

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» RE: Wait! Hold on! YOU THINK! Posted by: JSquercia
» Oh SHUT UP you Demo apologist ! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» Whatever ! KISS MY ASS ! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» RE: We all know ... Posted by: Cybershaman
Politics as Usual
Posted by: shill on Feb 2, 2009 3:33 AM   
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Neither party has a remedy for our economic ills. We need some more political parties with some creative answers. More Libertarians in office would be a good start.

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» Fairy Tail ideology Posted by: CatDad
» RE: I agree Posted by: Cybershaman
The headlines tell the tail
Posted by: warrior woman on Feb 2, 2009 3:46 AM   
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Follow the trail and you'll see that we are gaining no favor from the Democratic leadership as we so "hoped" for and expected. Pay special attention to the article "What Cooked the World's Economy?" and you'll see that some of the key players are Dem's and presidential advisors. Great.

Sins of Omission: The Forgotten Poor
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/
opinion/02mon2.html?th&emc=th
Published: February 1, 2009

Sins of Omission: Help for the Beleaguered Homeowner
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/opinion
/02mon1.html?th&emc=th
Published: February 1, 2009

Risks Are Vast in Revaluation of Assets
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/business/
economy/02value.html?_r=1&th&emc=th
By VIKAS BAJAJ and STEPHEN LABATON
Published: February 1, 2009

What Cooked the World's Economy?
Tuesday 27 January 2009

by: James Lieber, The Village Voice
http://www.villagevoice.com/2009-01-28/news/
what-cooked-the-world-s-economy?src=newsletter

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Isn't it obvious that both parties are different sides of the same coin!?
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Feb 2, 2009 3:55 AM   
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Obama is a tool of the NWO/globalists, as were our other presidents for decades before, (with the exception of JFK, perhaps).

Corrupt government & corporations are why the people are suffering!!!

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» Oh SHUT UP you Demo apologist ! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» RE: Me too! Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: Me too! Posted by: Quannah
» RE: PMRC Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: PMRC Posted by: Quannah
Same ole' no matter what.
Posted by: lamac66 on Feb 2, 2009 4:07 AM   
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The Republic Party's answer to EVERYTHING is tax cuts and let the markets take care of itself.

That was John Sydney McCain's economic mantra.

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» III Posted by: Beck
» RE: Same ole' no matter what. Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
Greyhead
Posted by: When In Doubt on Feb 2, 2009 4:36 AM   
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The Republican Party is in the state of shell-shock and awe of George Bush's war.

They haven't a clue what hit them.

They are simply road-kill.

Send out the clean-up crew.

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Not the Problem
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Feb 2, 2009 4:59 AM   
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The problem with the Republican Party is not that they lack any ideas it is that they have for many years had only a single idea and that is a quite terrible idea, at least for the welfare of the country. They still cling to that single idea and they probably always will.

They have, as long as I can recall, had this notion that the solution to any problem is to cut taxes, especially for the most wealthy. Do that and it will cure any ill.

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theyre keeing out of the picture...
Posted by: Anthhh on Feb 2, 2009 5:04 AM   
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~
The republicans plan is to stay off this new stage.
They have finished their part for the time being.

We will now appear innocent. Anew.
With OBAMA as "THE INNOCENT"
"The past is behind America"
"The stupid, evil, bumbling Bush is gone"

This is the theme in the propaganda that we are seeing in the setting of a new stage.
the group who are running affairs from behind the scenes are plotting for the NEXT 9-11 ATTACK.

THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO IT AGAIN.

THE STAGE WILL BE SET SOON

SO FAR THEY HAVE SEVERAL ASPECTS IN VIEW:

#1. THE CONSPIRERS HAVE WAY TOO MUCH INVESTED IN IRAQ TO CHANCE THAT THEY REGAIN A HOLD.
-THEY NEED FIRST TO BLAME IRAQ PERMANENTLY FOR EVERYTHING THEY DID, AND WILL DO UNTO THEM.

#2 THERE IS ALSO NEED TO FURTHER DENY THAT THE PREVIOUS 9-11 WAS A PLOT. THE DUST FROM THIS NEW, MORE HORRIFIC 9-11 WILL ALSO HELP BURY THE PAST ONE.

#3. THE NEED TO THWART THE GROWING OPPOSITION OF AMERICAN REGIME BY THE WHOLE REST OF THE WORLD ( BY THROWING THEM ANOTHER CURVE BALL ).

#4. THE POSITIONING TO FIRST APPEAR INNOCENT
( looking at the aspects of Obama: His color, heritage, middle name, party platform..is NO COINCIDENCE )


______________

THEY WILL FIRST ONLY NEED TO MAKE IRAQ SEEM AS AN ANGRY VILLIAN AGAIN..AND MAKE US SEEM MORE INNOCENT IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD. AND THEN MAKE IT AN EVEN MORE HORRIBLE ATTACK THAN 9-11.
... SO WHEN THIS ATTACK HAPPENS, the world will have no choice but to AGAIN give completely in to what ever course of action the "INNOCENT OBAMA AND HIS INNOCENT PEOPLE" want to take.
.
..AGAINNNNNNNN !

THIS ONE WILL BE WAYYYY WORSE!

WAR CRIMINALS NEVER STOP ON THEIR OWN.
WAR CRIMINALS NEVER STOP ON THEIR OWN.
WAR CRIMINALS NEVER STOP ON THEIR OWN.

IT IS UP TO US TO GET THEM AND STOP THEM!


~
~~~~~THE VICTIMS THANK YOU FOR GETTING THIS OUT~~~~
(the lives you save may be your own)
~

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» omg!!!!eleventy!111 Posted by: EinMD
'Tax Breaks'/'Deficit reduction' circular Illogic
Posted by: Purple Girl on Feb 2, 2009 5:46 AM   
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Have they jacked up the Lead in the water, Or are Repugs really that Retarded Or are they merely Traitors wrapped in a Flag and Thumping a bible?
Have they not realized the American Public stopped drinking their koolaid about 3 yrs ago?
Set down the dixie cup, sit down and shut the F*ck Up!
Tax breaks for Who..those now on Unemployment? Those who've lost their homes? Those who no longer have a customer base or a business?
Who exactly will be paying taxes to cover the loss of revenue to state & federal Gov'ts, to bring down the deficit? How fast can their handful of taxpayers pay down the deficit when their taxes are cut?
Come On their failed policy of 'Tax cuts' has NOT improved our economy or standard of living for decades!The only ones who have benefited are the Corps and their Upper echelon, who have Hoarded these 'tax breaks'. Pray Tell how much of Exxons 45.2 BILLION dollar profits 'trickled Down ' to their workers, certianly not to their customers either.That's why it's called Profits- obviously Exxons Taxes were low enough to allow for such an Outrageous Fleecing of their workers and customers. How will Exxon spend that Windfall?Reinvest in R&D for alternative energy sources? No, just bigger & better high end Junkets for the top brass or more Deceptive advertising, or more Lobbists so they can screw US again next year! How about they reimburse US for the Illegal invasion they forced US into for a better their relationship with the Oil royals.How much did the Oil royals Pocket last year?
The guillotine is Far too Humane for these Criminals. I'd prefer to see the execution methods used on William Wallace. Ya think that might get their priorities (allegiences) straight from now on?

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winston
Posted by: roli on Feb 2, 2009 5:57 AM   
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Hello,

As much as I hoped for, until those responsible for the War in Iraq are held accountable for all the lies that we were told, America will never be truly free from evil doers. We were told , questioning our patriotism, "if you are not with us, you are against us."(Hitler also said the same thing) We never questioned anyone, nor did the media. Except for a few like Dan Rather and those of his character. The Patriot Act can just pick anyone off the street and call them "enemy combatant," lock them up, and they are never seen again..so I guess that goes for the Bush Administration as well, just pick them up and throw away the key. Then America will be purified. Lock the drunk up.

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Facing the facts...
Posted by: Bizatch! on Feb 2, 2009 6:24 AM   
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Whatever the case may be, regular citizens are not going to change their thinking any time soon in terms of rooting out Republicans and overhauling the system as a whole. It would be totally disheartening to the nation, even though it's necessary.

Much like how we are in too deep in Iraq, the sentiments and irrational symptoms of patriotism won't let most of us acknowledge that the entity of America is NOT a force for good despite the crass PR and its identification with the divine. Dems are just as blameworthy in this regard, so going after one party only is not really any kind of solution here... just more of the same partisan politics that we've allowed to define us.

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The problem with those tax cuts.
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Feb 2, 2009 6:52 AM   
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There is a very good reason tax cuts for the wealthy and even for businesses don't do much of anything to help out the economy. They ignore supply and demand. If you give the wealthy and business owners money in the form of tax breaks they aren't going to run out and hire more people or (and how stupid would you have to be to believe this would happen?) increase the pay of their employees. You don't add employees without a demand by customers and clients that requires them. You don't add an additional employee and then wait for the business to roll in to justify that added expense. Only when those who are actually consumers and will actually spend that money (ie. they aren't already wealthy and this is a real windfall for them) recieve it is there a demand for more employees to handle the additional business being done.

How do we fix this big mess when everyone is too paranoid to spend that money even if they get it, rather than save it or pay bills? I have no idea. Republicans sure seem rather good at creating huge problems with no good solutions other than time and suffering for everyone but themselves.

Now why, oh why would the party of the wealthy and big business want tax cuts for the wealthy and businesses when tehy don't actually work?? hmmmm???

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Neither the Republicans nor Democrats have any good ideas.
Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Feb 2, 2009 7:28 AM   
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That they're both for more funny money "tax cuts" at the cost of gutting what's left of our country's basic infrastructure should tell you plenty. And don't worry, Obama will fold like a tent and let the GOP gut him like a fish. Nader, Mckinney, and even Paul and Barr would be paying attention to actually paying down the debt not making it worse. It's a shame that nearly 130 million voters chose between two idiotic parties.

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Sod Zawg
Posted by: gwazdos1 on Feb 2, 2009 7:31 AM   
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The Republic Party's answer to EVERYTHING is tax cuts and let the markets take care of itself. Remember this important message and you will understand the Repugs. Republican - Cancer - Same thing, Repugs want to kill you financially so they the Senator in Congress currently are all millionaires, even the Idiot Senator Collins from Maine. Now she is going to hold hearing about how KBR AND HALLIBURTON HAS SCREWED US FOR OVER 8 YEARS, THIS WAS HER JOB 8 YEARS AGO AND SHE DID NOT HOLD ONE HEARING, NOW SHE IS GOING TO BE FORTHRIGHT PERSON, YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING. HE IS A TOKEN FOR THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS AS THEY KNOW SHE WILL DO AND SAY WHAT EVER SHE IS TOLD. SHE IS NOT A PERSON OF HONOR!

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100 Billion Dollars a year from Legalized Hemp
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Feb 2, 2009 8:01 AM   
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Concerned Citizen's for Police Safety says,
Legalize marijuana for economic stimulation and Police Safety

Hemp Legalization = Police Safety

Ok, I know some of my friends are thinking I've just lost what few braincells I had left and may probably be writhing on the floor,foaming at the mouth. That might happen someday but let's delve into my alledged lunacy for a second.

The most dangerous call the cops have to make,by their own admission, are calls for 'Domestic Distrubance'. They're walking into an already hot situation andanything really can happen. Sometimes people wind up injured or worse. Not just the domestic combatants but the cops too. That's why they hate making these calls. Besides not really wanting to get involved with someone's marriage/family troubles,they don't want to get zapped by someone who thinks the last thing they need is a cop for marriage advice.

Now a long time back,in the 1920's, there was a group that was successful in getting drunken abusive husbands court ordered onto 'Hashish Therapy'
because it cooled a hot temper. The group was, The Women's Temperance League. Good job Ladies!!!

I know what you're thinking, 'Why the hell aren't we in the 1920's? Damn that was a time to live in!'. No...it wasn't.
Besides our time is now. Booze is legal so we need a new approach to the 'Legalization Situation'. Barney Frank has a good idea with his Bill, H.R.5843,keeping marujuana use limited to consenting adults,but it needs a kicker that will make it through the criminal justice committee's it gets sent through. They are the ones responsible for keeping hemp bills from becoming Hemp Laws. Forget the 'schoolhouse rock' bull,that's not how bills become law,so it's a lie.

We need to draft a 'act' that may be easier to pass. This 'act' could be called something like 'The Police Safety and Domestic Tranquility Through Hemp Legalization
Act'

For the increased safety and psychological wellbeing of attending officers,on domestic violence calls,the most dangerous calls to said officers,and for the fostering of domestic tranquility where alchohol leads to domestic confrontations, we undertake to increase the safety of both the Police Officers involved and the domestic participants by legalizing the use,possesion,non-profit transfer,shareing and growing,of cannibas hemp.
Because of it's long,5000 year history as a pacifying agent and it's low risk of zero overdoses,that for the safety of the Police and the society,we make,for consenting adults,HEMP LEGAL

I think this could be a very workable approach. In America "Cop Safety' goes a long way.
This could be the biggest populace movement in history.
Also the biggest capital generating endeavor since the 'gold rush days'.

SAVE OUR COUNTRY,SAVE A COP-SMOKE POT!!!!

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» no billion $ lobbyists... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
» Bull hockey. Posted by: EinMD
» Oh KISS MY ASS ! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» What the hell are you, a big pharma hack? Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» PFFTT !! LOL !! Nice try silly ! :D Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» Her ass must be terribly lonely Posted by: Quicksilver
» RE: 90% Posted by: Cybershaman
» Medical Marijuana.... Posted by: gellero1
» THANK YOU ! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
Blah, blah, blah!!!!
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Feb 2, 2009 8:03 AM   
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I am convinced the Repugnikans suffer from a collective socio-pathic psychosis! Why, their main cry is "MORE TAX CUTS"! Hello, have these worked for anyone other than the rich and corporate for the last 8 years! The cry that cutting taxes is the key to "creating jobs" went out with Ronald Reagan! Is it just me, but does no one remember that the trickle-down theory he used left massive unemployment?!

Clearly, even thinking people in the Rupugnikan party understand this, otherwise the President would not have won with such a large number of delegates! These people either need to offer real solutions or go sit in a corner and suck their collective thumbs!

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» I remember, also Posted by: itzamirakul
» More bold! Posted by: EinMD
» Oh shut the hell up you stupid boy ! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» Much better than your DimoCRAP bullshit ! Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
GOP's Rudder Is Hopelessly Stuck Rightward. . .
Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Feb 2, 2009 8:29 AM   
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Frankly, I've given up on the Republican Party; its steering rudder is hopelessly stuck in a rightward direction.

That was made abundantly clear to me over the weekend with the GOP National Committee meeting in Washington.

Check out this behind-the-scenes story to see what I mean.

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ET TU. FRANK RICH ?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 2, 2009 9:07 AM   
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Why should we give a hoot what the Republicans are doing? Why are Rich Limbaugh and Sarah Palin still front and center? Frank Rich can do better than this. They Rupubs self destructed as expected. Let them rebuild in their own way. They continue to flounder and they will for some time. Some how I don't feel obligated to "help" them get their S--t together. ANNA

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I misunderestimated Pres. Obama
Posted by: sausage on Feb 2, 2009 10:02 AM   
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Y'know, when President Obama started talking "bipartisanship" and getting in-put from the opposition, I had my moments of doubt. I was thinking, "Oh, no, here we go again. Four more years of Clintonian 'triangulation.'"

But I was wrong.

President Obama's let these pinheaded House Republicans expose themselves for the petty, partisan morons we all knew they were.

They know, as well as you and I, that most of them come from some of the most economically depressed, and this was before the current depression set in, areas of the country. And they know, as well as you and I, that the kinds of jobs and programs in the stimulus bill will directly benefit their constituents.

These tough-talking Republican chickenhawks won't even have the balls to take Stephen Colbert's advice and refuse to accept any stimulus money or projects for their districts. You know if and when the stimulus legislation passes the Senate, and it will without the GOP, and is signed into law these tightfisted, big-talking, no-tax Republican pigs will be muscling their way to Uncle Sugar's stimulus trough as fast as their little piggy legs can carry them.

So, who cares about currying favor or reaching across the aisle in a spirit of comradeship and commonality for the good of the country with these Republican boneheads. They've made their beds and now they can sleep in them. And maybe, just maybe, their constituents will awake from their stupor, throw the wool off their eyes and get rid of these bums.

I'm really more concerned about the 11 Democratic Blue Dog fellow-travelers who voted with House Republicans.

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Republicans and the Rich
Posted by: wleming on Feb 2, 2009 10:30 AM   
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The party of the Rich is the Republican party, and they are doing their job, defending the interests of those (banks, CEO's,funds and worse) who have put the country and its people into eternal debt servitude. Can't blame them for doing their job... can you? Limbaugh, a drug addicted racist, seems the appropriate Republican choice for leadership.

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Why GOP House Members Fear Rush
Posted by: gradioc on Feb 2, 2009 4:00 PM   
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The reason all GOP house members fear the wrath of Rush is because it is only their right flank they have to protect. With all the "safe" districts that have been gerrymandered by members of the political class in state legislatures (for both parties), fewer and fewer House members have to worry about appearing mainstream and reasonable. They just have to make sure no primary challenger can paint them as disloyal to the far end of the party and jerk the nomination rug out from under them. Displease the Neocon Noise Machine (Rush, Hannity, et al), and the wingnuts show up with torches and pitchforks at the primary to vote for any slack-jawed ditto head they've been instructed to support. I firmly believe that, until we find a way to redistrict House seats without creating these safe havens for political extremism, the House of Representatives will be a disfunctional mess.

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Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly, Ingraham Malkin, and Morgan
Posted by: bettyn on Feb 2, 2009 4:22 PM   
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Are the mouthpieces of the GOP. You can bet they will disagree with everything Obama and the Dems do, no matter how beneficial it may be for the country. The objective of the GOP and its talking heads is to just obstruct everything. They did this with Clinton, and will certainly do it with Obama, since they are a pack of closet KKKers and Bushites (waiting for Jeb to come and save them). They are obedient servants of the fiithy rich CEOs, who want to keep pillaging the economy, and their fellow travelers, the bellicose military industrial establishment. Nothing will ever change this. (In fact, it seems rather weird now that the person who warned us about the defense establishment was a Republican President and a military hero. Ike could never have been a Repig these days, that's for sure.)

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Let's face it...........
Posted by: RickW on Feb 2, 2009 6:33 PM   
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......if the citizens want "two chickens in every pot", they are going to have to start raising those chickens themselves...........

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There is no PROVEN cure.
Posted by: gellero1 on Feb 2, 2009 7:50 PM   
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Keynesian economic theory transcends political parties. The Messiah....oops, I mean President Obama, has never claimed to be a economic theorist.

HE DEPENDS ON THE SAME WALL STREET FOLKS AS THE REPUBLICANS to 'cure' the worldwide economic malaise.

The problem is, NOBODY knows if it will work. It can't be tested on a 'scientific' basis. It is only theory. George Soros has written some interesting stuff on this.

And, economic cycles have existed since Roman times....read your history. This is nothing new....except for Keynesian theory as a solution.

But that is EXACTLY THE SAME FORMULA THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WAS USING.

So why do the Republicans object?? How about PORK and a LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY. Not much different than what they themselves did, but hey, somebody's got to object.

Anyone with any economic training ( that excludes most politicians ) knows that 'stimulus' ( AKA printing fiat money ) will lead to massive inflation. Inflation pauperizes the middle class. Funny the Democrats don't bring that up....maybe they believe their own bullshit.

The problem with our society is that we have sent our manufacturing base overseas. What will true Americans do? Work as sales folk in retail? Be waitresses? Aternet ignores this. "Bring on more 'undocumented' workers to depress wages". Don't believe it? Read the economic studies.

The Democratic Party is not the savior of America. They're the guys who brought you NAFTA and 'free' trade.

And their solutions come directly from Wall Street, not the Messiah.

I wish him well.

Read "the Crash of 1990" ....a fictional account of this...by Ravi Batra....I think it was published in the 1980's.

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Another Analysis of a Dismal Situation
Posted by: gellero1 on Feb 2, 2009 10:03 PM   
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Ron Paul's solution
Posted by: gellero1 on Feb 2, 2009 10:17 PM   
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Libertarians have a better solution

READ ABOUT a SOLUTION

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WORMS CRAWL ON, WORMS CRAWL IN
Posted by: reelman on Feb 4, 2009 9:03 AM   
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The amazing corruption in our royal congress….
Democrat Tom Daschle made (are you ready for this?)…over $80,000 a month as a “consultant” (aka lobbyist).
Did he have to wait 5 years after being out of congress? NO.
Worms like him, D-Breaux and R-Lott are part of the lobby thing so many running for office these days are “going to stop”, ha, ha.
Obama has 13 lobbyists hired (so far). Liars all.
http://www.conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/

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