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Obama Could Issue an Executive Order to End the Wars Tomorrow (Yes, It's That Simple)
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Paul Sullivan is a veteran of the 1991 Gulf War, serving in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq as a Cavalry Scout with the Army's 1st Armored Division.
As executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center from 1997 to 2000, he advocated for the passage of the Persian Gulf Veterans Act of 1998, which expanded health care and disability benefits for Gulf War veterans. From 2000 to 2006, he was Veterans Affairs project manager, leading a team that produced reports related to the Gulf War, Iraq war and Afghanistan war.
Sullivan is a life member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars and the Disabled American Veterans and is presently the executive director of Veterans for Common Sense, a Washington nonprofit organization focusing on issues related to national security, veterans' rights and benefits and civil liberties.
Two days after the inauguration, Paul spoke with me about a number of topics, including: the lies, drugs and poisons involved in the Gulf War and its current sequels; the suicide epidemic among Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans; the rash of homicides around military bases; the need for a truth commission; skewed research on Gulf War illness at VA; signs of conspiracy and subterfuge; the legacies of Bush 41 and Bush 43; the first days of Barack Obama; and his hopes for Michelle Obama as a true friend of veterans and veterans' families.
Nora Eisenberg: You've been involved with veterans' issues and rights for close to two decades -- as a veteran and advocate for veterans. Why have you devoted your life to this?
Paul Sullivan: The military taught us a valuable lesson during war: never leave a fallen comrade behind. We are now applying that essential lesson for use outside the war zone: We must never leave a fellow veteran behind.
Most people don't know that under a little-noticed 1991 law, the Gulf War began on Aug. 2, 1990, and it continues through today. The devastation that began with the bombing of Iraq on Jan. 17, 1991, continues through today. … Out of 700,000 Gulf War veterans, 290,000 filed disability claims against VA. VA also reports that 250,000 Gulf War veterans sought medical care at VA hospitals.
Friends of mine completed suicide after the Gulf War because VA delayed or denied assistance. A few friends suffered without answers from Lou Gehrig's disease, also known as ALS, for years before dying early, often after fighting VA.
The Gulf War continues as the new Iraq and Afghanistan wars. VA reports an additional 330,000 Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans have already filed disability claims against VA, and 400,000 have already been treated at VA hospitals. That's a grand total of 620,000 disability claims and 650,000 veteran patients.
We continue fighting for veterans because they need it, and because we are successful. Our 2007 lawsuit forced VA to establish a toll-free suicide-prevention hot line. In the first 15 months, the hot line received 85,000 calls and performed more than 2,100 rescues of suicidal veterans.
We fought for and secured $1.8 billion in emergency funding in 2007 that VA used to hire thousands of new doctors and claims processors. VCS testified repeatedly about the need to reform VA's broken claims system, and Congress acted by passing an overhaul bill in late 2008. Yet much more work needs to be done in 2009 and beyond.
The time has come to bring common sense to our U.S. government -- we must end the wars, bring our troops home with a responsible plan, provide medical care and benefits to our veterans, begin repairing our Constitution and our international reputation, and create a truth commission that will present the facts about the causes, conduct and consequences of the war to the American public. Then we can learn from our mistakes and move forward.
Now that President Bush has been peaceably removed from office, President Obama need only sign an executive order to end the wars (see Title 38, United States Code, Section 101, Paragraph 33). Congress also has the authority under the Constitution to end the war. Yes, it is that simple.
NE: Your organization, Veterans for Common Sense, addresses veterans' issues as well as issues of national security and civil liberties. Why have you expanded your work to include these other issues? How do they relate to veterans' issues and rights?
PS: We have always focused on national security, civil liberties and veterans since VCS was founded in 2002. We were formed by Gulf War veterans who questioned former President George W. Bush's misleading comments about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction and his rush to invade Iraq without international support.
We were fully aware that George H.W. Bush, the 41st president, also misled America into supporting the 1991 Gulf War, and we wanted to avoid repeating that mistake.
VCS also opposed former President [George W.] Bush's now-documented ordering of illegal torture against enemy prisoners of war because it endangers the welfare of our soldiers captured by the enemy. Torture is also morally wrong and prohibited by the Geneva Conventions the U.S. agreed to uphold, and by several U.S. anti-torture laws. On March 10, 2003, VCS sent a letter to Bush detailing our concerns.
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jan 29, 2009 4:38 AM
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Even if Obama is all that the sobbing crowds think he is, he's only there for 4-8 years. As executive power continues to grow exponentially, it will just be that much worse when the Republicans get their turn.
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Posted by: madmax427 on Jan 29, 2009 5:00 AM
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I am 57 yrs. old, a Twelve year Veteran of the U.S. Navy Nuclear Powered Submarines and I have been denied at least five times for a Service Connected Disability: The V.A. has told Me numerous times there is no proof My exposure to radiation onboard Submarines is responsible for My problems. I guess what was learned at the Bikini Island Nuclear testing way back when doesn't count or has since disappeared.
I believe My problems truly started when I decided Nuclear Power was NOT as well planned out as My Recruiter said it was. After making Chief Petty Officer in ten years, I wanted OUT of Nuclear Power and I took advantage of the Rules and the Mistake of My Command. When it was made obvious I was going to stick to the rules, the rule book was thrown out the window. AN entry into My service record stated I had shown Demonstrated Unreliability and I was not to have anything to do with the Operation, Maintenance or Repair of any Nuclear System and I was dismissed from Submarine Duty. My next Two duty assignments BOTH Violated that entry in My Service Record! The first of the two was a TAD to COMSUBGRP7 where I was ORDERED to Update the Reactor Plant Manuals for COMSUBGRP7. It is worth noting that the RPM's are the Navy's "bible" for Nuclear Plant Operations and ALL the Subs in GRP7 had to MATCH the Manuals I updated and according to Naval Records, My initials should still be in the Manuals! The next duty assignment was on a Sub Tender in Guam where I was ORDERED to insure the required paperwork that must accompany any Nuclear Repairs was properly completed. To this day when anyone refers to Me as Sir, It enrages Me becasue I had to call These "Officers" who can ONLY be reffered to as "Gentlemen" for the same Reason Judges are called "Your Honor": It is DEMANDED, NOT Deserved!!
Had I retired from the Navy, IN Nuclear Power, as I had wanted to, I would NOT be writing this now because I would probably be DEAD. At the time, the average age of Death for Retired Personnel was around five to eight years! I COULD continue this for pages, but I think You can get the POINT now: Rules & Regulations ONLY apply when it is convienent for Those in Power. THAT was My wake up call.
Now I suffer with having one heart attack, a sleep disorder, Skin problems, the cartilidge in My right knee broke and is extremely weak and I cannot go to the V.A. because I cannot TRUST the V.A. because of the way I lost My Father (He passed away while in the "care" of the V. A. May of 06 and I am STILL waiting after over 2.5 YEARS for the last few months of His Medical Records which I requested because the circumstances just before He died are very troubling)
YES, I believe the V.A. needs a MAJOR Overhual, along with the ability to show Compassion for Our Veterans because stories such as Mine are NOT that few and far between!
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Posted by: bob12386 on Jan 29, 2009 5:02 AM
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If he breaks the rules they'll JFK him. Done deal.
You didn't think the "Korea model" for Iraq was going out with the Bush administration, did you?
Are you really that naive? Any Alternet reader has been exposed to far more than enough stories on the general corruption of both American political parties that to not understand these facts I have described by this point goes well beyond naive. The better question is, are you stupid?
Obama will be another Bill Clinton, but not some crusading radical that revolutionizes America. The current economic depression will create more change in this country than Obama.
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» If you calling us "stupid" and "naive" did any good, your candidate would have won in a landslide.
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» You stupid girl, oh you had to waste it !
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» I didn't have a candidate in the election. Neither of the corporate approved choices represented me.
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» Same here. I voted for Nader though and am proud of it. :-)
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Posted by: NYCartist on Jan 29, 2009 6:05 AM
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On the VA:my dad fought for the VA to change his 75% disability status after WWII. He was in a spinal meningitis epidemic in army boot camp, after he enlisted for service. He was left disabled. Epidemics in boot camp (and other camps) are not discussed in media. A relative by marriage got the same illness in a boot camp epidemic during the Vietnam War, a generation later. The book "Osler's Web" by Hillary Johnson, Crown Publishers, 1995 discusses the politics of illness, mainly CFS, but mentions Gulf War Syndrome,too.
It's about money. If the government "disses" illness, including making it seem to be psychological, and suggest it's not "serious", (PTSD, all the other illnesses listed in the article), then they don't have to pay for treatment or benefits.
And my dad died about "5 minutes" after getting his VA disability rating changed to 100%. I found the letters after his death. I was a child.
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» Okay, I give up. Who?
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Jan 29, 2009 10:42 AM
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The illegality of such missile strikes is beyond doubt, if civilian life is still considered inviolable according to international law, but its efficacy as part of the US’ and NATO’s military strategy in the ‘War on Terror’ remains a matter of debate.
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Posted by: PaulK on Jan 29, 2009 10:48 AM
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Or, he can set up some brightest and best to study peace. Here's the skinny on what will happen:
They'll ask, what are America's goals in Iraq?
1. Accomplish a mission, any mission. Win an election.
The 2004 election was actually won by jiggering the vote counts in all those Ohio computers, just exactly enough to win. The 2008 election was heavily lost, along with the Republican House and Senate.
2. Kill Saddam.
Done that.
3. Kill anyone connected with the Saddam regime.
But that includes Rumsfeld, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, who gave Saddam the nerve gas in the first place. Maybe we want to retreat to "Kill anyone who is ultraviolent." No, that still includes the American administrations. Maybe...
That's the problem with trying to indict and kill any large group of people. It's too inclusive.
4. Steal all their oil.
Didn't actually work. Won't work.
So in the end we don't have a great reason to be in Iraq.
5. Promote democracy with guns.
Oh come on, we just made that one up! Do you think America gives a hoot about democracy in Guatemala or in Burma?
So in the end we may actually promote democracy in Iraq, or everywhere, but it won't be with guns.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jan 29, 2009 1:38 PM
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But he's an owning-class guy, so he won't. I know lots of nice intelligent, educated guys like 'Bama... and they still can't get their heads outta their asses simply because they're... owning-classers.
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Posted by: dchauls on Jan 30, 2009 11:16 AM
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We have prepared a document entitled The Case for Rapid and Complete Withdrawal of US Forces from Iraq that explains our thinking on this issue in detail. It reviews the history and current status of our involvement in that country, and clarifies why we have drawn our conclusions. We have also prepared an op-ed piece (with the same title) that summarizes our thinking on this issue.
These papers may be found on our website, sudburydemocrats.org.
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Posted by: StillStanding on Jan 30, 2009 12:07 PM
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The military-industrial-espionage complex has brought the U.S. to bankruptcy and all of these pathetic efforts to prop up the corpse of the economy are destined to fail. Nothing short of a 180 degree change in national priorities can save us now, but it seems like Obama has bought into the fascist agenda, at least publicly.
In other words, the show will go on until all of us are crawling in the gutter while our leaders scramble to prop up the carcass of the failed 4th Reich.
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Posted by: jeaninemolloff on Jan 30, 2009 12:42 PM
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Posted by: reelman on Feb 3, 2009 4:20 PM
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***Despite? Try finding that word for a Repub admin… 13 exceptions to ethics means no ethics, he lied***
Robert Gibbs told reporters Tuesday, “The bar that we set is the highest that any administration in the country has ever set.”
***The standard democrat lie from the lowest standards (personal = Klinton) and political basement = Obama …because Obama is a coward, unable to mean what he says…or you can say a sneaky snake you can’t trust…isn’t either wonderful?
During a briefing filled with questions about Tom Daschle’s decision to withdraw from consideration to be Health and Human Services secretary, Gibbs pointed to experts who describe the administration’s ethics rules as the strongest in history.
***Now Gibbs repeats a lie from a liar…a Treasury Secretary who did not pay his taxes for 4 years… pleeease …Gibbs with a sincere straight face…its Obama-style…suckers***
He also said those experts recognized that Obama would need to make exceptions to his pledge to run an administration free of former lobbyists.
***Did “experts” recognize Bush exceptions? Recognize “exceptions” to a perfect war will be made? Who are these “experts”? What gibberish.***====
CRAWFISH NOTE:Liberals can defend the indefensible any day any time…with a confident straight face…pledges and promises mean nothing to them after being elected. Remember Klinton’s “middle class tax cut” that went away after the election? The libmedia changes democrat diapers daily.
The network media is sick and dangerous.
http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jan 29, 2009 4:38 AM
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Even if Obama is all that the sobbing crowds think he is, he's only there for 4-8 years. As executive power continues to grow exponentially, it will just be that much worse when the Republicans get their turn.
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Posted by: madmax427 on Jan 29, 2009 5:00 AM
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I am 57 yrs. old, a Twelve year Veteran of the U.S. Navy Nuclear Powered Submarines and I have been denied at least five times for a Service Connected Disability: The V.A. has told Me numerous times there is no proof My exposure to radiation onboard Submarines is responsible for My problems. I guess what was learned at the Bikini Island Nuclear testing way back when doesn't count or has since disappeared.
I believe My problems truly started when I decided Nuclear Power was NOT as well planned out as My Recruiter said it was. After making Chief Petty Officer in ten years, I wanted OUT of Nuclear Power and I took advantage of the Rules and the Mistake of My Command. When it was made obvious I was going to stick to the rules, the rule book was thrown out the window. AN entry into My service record stated I had shown Demonstrated Unreliability and I was not to have anything to do with the Operation, Maintenance or Repair of any Nuclear System and I was dismissed from Submarine Duty. My next Two duty assignments BOTH Violated that entry in My Service Record! The first of the two was a TAD to COMSUBGRP7 where I was ORDERED to Update the Reactor Plant Manuals for COMSUBGRP7. It is worth noting that the RPM's are the Navy's "bible" for Nuclear Plant Operations and ALL the Subs in GRP7 had to MATCH the Manuals I updated and according to Naval Records, My initials should still be in the Manuals! The next duty assignment was on a Sub Tender in Guam where I was ORDERED to insure the required paperwork that must accompany any Nuclear Repairs was properly completed. To this day when anyone refers to Me as Sir, It enrages Me becasue I had to call These "Officers" who can ONLY be reffered to as "Gentlemen" for the same Reason Judges are called "Your Honor": It is DEMANDED, NOT Deserved!!
Had I retired from the Navy, IN Nuclear Power, as I had wanted to, I would NOT be writing this now because I would probably be DEAD. At the time, the average age of Death for Retired Personnel was around five to eight years! I COULD continue this for pages, but I think You can get the POINT now: Rules & Regulations ONLY apply when it is convienent for Those in Power. THAT was My wake up call.
Now I suffer with having one heart attack, a sleep disorder, Skin problems, the cartilidge in My right knee broke and is extremely weak and I cannot go to the V.A. because I cannot TRUST the V.A. because of the way I lost My Father (He passed away while in the "care" of the V. A. May of 06 and I am STILL waiting after over 2.5 YEARS for the last few months of His Medical Records which I requested because the circumstances just before He died are very troubling)
YES, I believe the V.A. needs a MAJOR Overhual, along with the ability to show Compassion for Our Veterans because stories such as Mine are NOT that few and far between!
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Posted by: bob12386 on Jan 29, 2009 5:02 AM
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If he breaks the rules they'll JFK him. Done deal.
You didn't think the "Korea model" for Iraq was going out with the Bush administration, did you?
Are you really that naive? Any Alternet reader has been exposed to far more than enough stories on the general corruption of both American political parties that to not understand these facts I have described by this point goes well beyond naive. The better question is, are you stupid?
Obama will be another Bill Clinton, but not some crusading radical that revolutionizes America. The current economic depression will create more change in this country than Obama.
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» If you calling us "stupid" and "naive" did any good, your candidate would have won in a landslide.
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» You stupid girl, oh you had to waste it !
Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield
» I didn't have a candidate in the election. Neither of the corporate approved choices represented me.
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» Same here. I voted for Nader though and am proud of it. :-)
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Posted by: NYCartist on Jan 29, 2009 6:05 AM
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On the VA:my dad fought for the VA to change his 75% disability status after WWII. He was in a spinal meningitis epidemic in army boot camp, after he enlisted for service. He was left disabled. Epidemics in boot camp (and other camps) are not discussed in media. A relative by marriage got the same illness in a boot camp epidemic during the Vietnam War, a generation later. The book "Osler's Web" by Hillary Johnson, Crown Publishers, 1995 discusses the politics of illness, mainly CFS, but mentions Gulf War Syndrome,too.
It's about money. If the government "disses" illness, including making it seem to be psychological, and suggest it's not "serious", (PTSD, all the other illnesses listed in the article), then they don't have to pay for treatment or benefits.
And my dad died about "5 minutes" after getting his VA disability rating changed to 100%. I found the letters after his death. I was a child.
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Posted by: MeyravLevine on Jan 29, 2009 10:42 AM
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The illegality of such missile strikes is beyond doubt, if civilian life is still considered inviolable according to international law, but its efficacy as part of the US’ and NATO’s military strategy in the ‘War on Terror’ remains a matter of debate.
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Posted by: PaulK on Jan 29, 2009 10:48 AM
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Or, he can set up some brightest and best to study peace. Here's the skinny on what will happen:
They'll ask, what are America's goals in Iraq?
1. Accomplish a mission, any mission. Win an election.
The 2004 election was actually won by jiggering the vote counts in all those Ohio computers, just exactly enough to win. The 2008 election was heavily lost, along with the Republican House and Senate.
2. Kill Saddam.
Done that.
3. Kill anyone connected with the Saddam regime.
But that includes Rumsfeld, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, who gave Saddam the nerve gas in the first place. Maybe we want to retreat to "Kill anyone who is ultraviolent." No, that still includes the American administrations. Maybe...
That's the problem with trying to indict and kill any large group of people. It's too inclusive.
4. Steal all their oil.
Didn't actually work. Won't work.
So in the end we don't have a great reason to be in Iraq.
5. Promote democracy with guns.
Oh come on, we just made that one up! Do you think America gives a hoot about democracy in Guatemala or in Burma?
So in the end we may actually promote democracy in Iraq, or everywhere, but it won't be with guns.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jan 29, 2009 1:38 PM
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But he's an owning-class guy, so he won't. I know lots of nice intelligent, educated guys like 'Bama... and they still can't get their heads outta their asses simply because they're... owning-classers.
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Posted by: americansheep on Jan 29, 2009 6:17 PM
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Posted by: dchauls on Jan 30, 2009 11:16 AM
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We have prepared a document entitled The Case for Rapid and Complete Withdrawal of US Forces from Iraq that explains our thinking on this issue in detail. It reviews the history and current status of our involvement in that country, and clarifies why we have drawn our conclusions. We have also prepared an op-ed piece (with the same title) that summarizes our thinking on this issue.
These papers may be found on our website, sudburydemocrats.org.
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Posted by: StillStanding on Jan 30, 2009 12:07 PM
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The military-industrial-espionage complex has brought the U.S. to bankruptcy and all of these pathetic efforts to prop up the corpse of the economy are destined to fail. Nothing short of a 180 degree change in national priorities can save us now, but it seems like Obama has bought into the fascist agenda, at least publicly.
In other words, the show will go on until all of us are crawling in the gutter while our leaders scramble to prop up the carcass of the failed 4th Reich.
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Posted by: jeaninemolloff on Jan 30, 2009 12:42 PM
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***Despite? Try finding that word for a Repub admin… 13 exceptions to ethics means no ethics, he lied***
Robert Gibbs told reporters Tuesday, “The bar that we set is the highest that any administration in the country has ever set.”
***The standard democrat lie from the lowest standards (personal = Klinton) and political basement = Obama …because Obama is a coward, unable to mean what he says…or you can say a sneaky snake you can’t trust…isn’t either wonderful?
During a briefing filled with questions about Tom Daschle’s decision to withdraw from consideration to be Health and Human Services secretary, Gibbs pointed to experts who describe the administration’s ethics rules as the strongest in history.
***Now Gibbs repeats a lie from a liar…a Treasury Secretary who did not pay his taxes for 4 years… pleeease …Gibbs with a sincere straight face…its Obama-style…suckers***
He also said those experts recognized that Obama would need to make exceptions to his pledge to run an administration free of former lobbyists.
***Did “experts” recognize Bush exceptions? Recognize “exceptions” to a perfect war will be made? Who are these “experts”? What gibberish.***====
CRAWFISH NOTE:Liberals can defend the indefensible any day any time…with a confident straight face…pledges and promises mean nothing to them after being elected. Remember Klinton’s “middle class tax cut” that went away after the election? The libmedia changes democrat diapers daily.
The network media is sick and dangerous.
http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/
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