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The Inauguration Beer Goggles Are Coming Off and Our Ugly Economic Problems Are Still Here

By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real. Posted January 24, 2009.


Progressives have been dry for so long that all that Obama bubbly went straight to our heads. But Obama or not, we're in for tough times.

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Whoa! What a bash, huh? We liberal/progressives have been dry for so long that all that Obama bubbly went straight to our heads. By the time the oath of office was administered, I was already a blubbering goner.

A few days later, it's all blur. I've completely sobered up, and I'm back to normal.

I said, I'm back to "normal." My inauguration day beer goggles are off and -- jeezusholychit! -- what's that ugly thing my bed?!

Oh, yeah, it's the same ugly thing that was there before the change of administrations. A closer look reminds me it's the body of our once-vibrant economy. Rigor mortis has set in and, frankly, it's beginning to stink.

A growing number of people are just starting to figure out that we're on a lifestyle-changing path, a path 95 percent of us alive today have never imagined, much less been forced to travel.

I only mention all this because I suspect a lot of you out there are clinging, in an unhealthy and unhelpful way, to your inauguration beer goggles. Believe me, leaving those goggles on will not make the troubles go away. It'll just mean you're caught unprepared when it all gets around to you.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not dissing President Obama or his ambitious plans for confronting these troubles. I am only saying that, if you take those goggles off, you too will see that what was there on Jan. 20 is still there, and getting uglier by the minute.

Ironically, the only person who seems not to be clinging to his beer goggles is Barack Obama. He has repeatedly warned against expectations of any quick fixes. Good advice.

But if Americans have been conditioned to expect anything over the last 50 years, it's expecting quick fixes. And, why not? After all, those of us of a certain age have been through all kinds of scares, none of which actually resulted in the kind of epic hardships we've only seen portrayed on the History Channel. You know, like the Middle Ages plague or the Great Depression or the Holocaust.

In that regard -- and it's no small regard -- we post-World War II Americans have been unusually lucky. We've had our share of crisis, but they were all resolved before their worst potentialities could be realized. You know, the Cuban Missile Crisis could have resulted in a nuclear exchange between the United States and Russia, but it was resolved in a matter of days.

The whole Cold War thing ended with a dull thud, rather than a bang. The swine flu didn't sweep death across America, nor did the bird flu -- both those potential pandemics were nipped in the bud. The S&L crisis of the 1980s was managed before it could spread and bring down the financial sector.

Which is why Americans have become accustomed to treating any crisis de jour as the latest goofy reality show episode. CNN and MSNBC take the scare-ball and run with it. And we tune in and watch the show, as politicians and military folk and vacuous network anchors fill hours of on-air time chewing on little more than the hard-news equivalent of cotton candy.

Then a day, or a week or a month later, the crisis is resolved and we go on with lives that had not changed one iota.

This time it's different.

First, the crisis upon us is worldwide. And it is not just an economic crisis, but our first genuine species-wide crisis. It's going to force major realignment of -- well, everything. Like how we power our lives, how we feed ourselves, how we populate, how we build, how we travel and how we create sustainable economies. Distinctions between "capitalism" and "socialism" will disappear, a process already under way. They will disappear because neither offers a solution, neither has and neither can. What emerges will embody only parts of each that can provide solutions that work and are sustainable.


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Stephen Pizzo is the author of numerous books, including Inside Job: The Looting of America's Savings and Loans, which was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize.

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We ARE in for somthing...what it is, nobody knows...
Posted by: chance garden on Jan 24, 2009 12:23 AM   
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One thing I would like to know 'cause I doubt our Cantgress doesn't EVEN know...is how to reset the money machine?

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» Here is the message Posted by: nigelbest
» RE: Here is the message 2 Posted by: nigelbest
» Here is the message 3 Posted by: nigelbest
» The solution is simple Posted by: nigelbest
Pleased with his handiwork
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jan 24, 2009 3:47 AM   
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Milton Friedman looks down from Heaven, pleased with his handiwork.

Please tell a Republican he's a screw-up today. We must tell them every day.

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» RE: Pleased with his handiwork Posted by: peterjkraus
Obama: Losing the Big "MO" ?
Posted by: mmckinl on Jan 24, 2009 5:47 AM   
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First it started with the appointments ... just about all of them neoliberals with dubious if not morally bereft records and character.

Then there was the not so golden silence as Gaza was mercilessly pummeled killing innocent women and children and blowing up the UN headquarters there while the world recoiled in shock, horror and anger.

The stimulus was a sop to Republican Tax Cut ideology, and a potpourri of dusted off Dem list small potato ideas.

The inauguration speech didn't ask us to help him move forward on Bank Nationalization or Medicare for All but .... to stand up and dust ourselves off.

Later in the week he closed Guantanamo but not really and outlawed torture but he'll study re-implementing it.

Obama has had opportunity after opportunity to stand for "change that we can believe in" only to hedge every decision leaving increasing doubt about his promises and his motives ...

Obama had the momentum to ask for sweeping programs, to keep people involved but he has settled for an agenda as cold and impersonal as his inaugural address. He should stand up, dust himself off, and start implementing the "change we can believe in."

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» You missed the real message Posted by: xi_people
» Obama's popularity Posted by: mgmyers79
» RE: Obama's popularity Posted by: mmckinl
» amen. Posted by: tony12000
» RE: amen. Posted by: mmckinl
» More insanity. Posted by: Scientz
Bush days
Posted by: beandang on Jan 24, 2009 6:06 AM   
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Personally, I am just glad the Bush days are OVER. We all know Obama can talk the talk, and by the looks of things over the last few days, it looks like he can walk the walk as well.

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» walking to the status quo Posted by: tony12000
Please tell me, what am I missing here?
Posted by: charles000 on Jan 24, 2009 6:12 AM   
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I don't get this. Maybe my overtaxed brain is finally giving up under the stress, the last few functioning neurons have fired for the last time . . .

Please tell me, what am I missing here?

I'm reading that these banking CEO's, even as they were groveling before Congress demanding 100s of billions of dollars of taxpayer money, were at that very moment giving away billions in "bonuses" to their comrades, and spending millions on their own offices and, lavishing almost unimaginable amounts of money to their crones, while buying up other banks . . . instead of loaning money out the public for property mortgages and small business development, which is what the supposed goal was with these so-called TARP bailout funds.

I don't get this.

Please forgive me, but I just don't get any of this, because while this is going on, the banks are still foreclosing on homes, instead of offering new terms, and entire neighborhoods are collapsing in value, being driven downward by clusters of homes going dark and being abandoned.

This makes absolutely no sense at all, none. Can anyone explain this?

And yet Congress is apparently going along with this, asking for even more billions, to be given to banks, so they give away more bonuses and buy up even more banks.

I can't even comprehend what a young college student might be thinking, knowing that they will be in debt for their student loan for many 10's of thousands of dollars . . . only to attempt to find work in an economic environment that is rapidly approaching Depression levels of unemployment

If I am too stupid to understand this, I will be the first to fully admit so . . . but at least, if that's the case, tell me what I am apparently too stupid to understand.

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Perplexed
Posted by: Chaimirija on Jan 24, 2009 6:15 AM   
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So, what are supposed to do?

Curl up and kiss our asses goodbye?

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At least we can agree it's funny to hate women
Posted by: scheherezade on Jan 24, 2009 6:30 AM   
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My inauguration day beer goggles are off and -- jeezusholychit! -- what's that ugly thing my bed?!

Ha ha, at least with all those terrible problems in the world, we can all come together and agree its still hilarious to denigrate women.

Yes, there's nothing like a good "beer goggles" WTF did I F last night metaphor to really sum up the urgency of salvaging our current civilization.

After all, "women are shit" jokes always work for untalented comedians -- good call adopting them to explain economics!

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» give me a break! Posted by: bizeeb
» RE: give me a break! Posted by: donl51
» Bloody Comment Troll!!! Posted by: MausMasher54
Does anyone else think this headline is ridiculous?
Posted by: Scientz on Jan 24, 2009 6:45 AM   
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. . . a NYT poll before the election showed Obama with a 71% approval rating going into office (meaning roughly half of the McCain voters also viewed him favorably) and also said that most Americans are prepared him years to fix the problem.

Sensational headlines such as this only further the idea of a general impatience among the masses. It isn't true. In his first three days Obama did more for women, working families, and government transparency than GWB did in 8 years.

Didn't Obama say there was no room for the old cynicism?

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» Also . . . Posted by: Scientz
» Who is this "we" . . . ? Posted by: Scientz
» Why? Posted by: Scientz
» I realize I erred . . . Posted by: Scientz
Need Jobs Not Tax cuts...Bottoms UP MF'ers!!
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jan 24, 2009 7:34 AM   
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The Repugs are like Alzheimers patients, forgetting they lost the election and that 'Tax cuts' have failed to do anything for the economy.
Small biz owners don't need tax cuts, they Need CUSTOMERS!
Instead of appeasing the Repugs and their Corp masters, we should be prosecuting them for Economic Treason.
Trickle down not only denoted who would benefit, but the attitude of the Repugs and Corp America has against Americans
As a small business owner, I have have been forced to seek alternative employment because I can't find any customers who can afford to hire me to provide services.
That 'spit in the bucket' Bush tax refund didn't even cover 1/2 of ONE Months bills!!
If I have na income, I can pay my mortgages, my loans, my utilities, My TAXES and spend a little at the Mall!! Not to mention we could stop bailing out the Banks and corps, since we'll be paying our bills and buying products & services.
Trickle Down is not only Dead, it's been executed for High Treason. It is time to return our economy to those who actually built it and sustained it before the Repugs and Corps Highjacked it.

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I Never Drank Obama Lager....
Posted by: tony12000 on Jan 24, 2009 7:50 AM   
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I have watched in utter amazement while my my liberal colleagues have fawned over Obama for the last year. It has been absoutely maddening at times. And unlike you, most of them are still walking around in an Obama-Vegetative State. The inauguration made it worse.

Now, they are drooling because he has reversed (or is studying how to reverse) Bush's policies. But all he has done is restore the status quo that existed prior to Bush. A perfect example of this is the Ledbetter legislation. Although liberals are ecstatic over it, they really should be concerned. There are two versions of the law - one is progressive and adds a lot to civil rights law to help plaitniffs. The other one is extremely moderate and only does enough to restore the status quo -- which was already painfully difficult for civil rights plaintifs. Guess which one will pass.... But despite this problem, liberals will scream "YAY - WE DEFEATED THE REPUBLICANS." I refuse to define my politics around what is best for the DNC. Check out this article if you want more: Much Ado About Nothing? Liberals Absolutely Ecstatic Over Return to Pre-Bush Status Quo

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» RE: I Never Drank Obama Lager.... Posted by: sonofloud2
reversing bush's insane policies do not make obama
Posted by: sonofloud2 on Jan 24, 2009 7:50 AM   
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a progressive, just more sane than bush

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funny...
Posted by: tony12000 on Jan 24, 2009 8:08 AM   
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either we honor and obey the president or curl up and die. here's another alternative: express the same impassioned concern that we have done for the last eight years. the democrats, including the mighty obama, have done nothing to warrant such passivity among liberals. in fact, they were complicit in many of the policies that we say make bush such a monster: Hold Them Accountable Too: Many Democrats Supported Policies of the "Worst President" (Part I)

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RE: Fixing Our Electric Grid
Posted by: Bob Horn on Jan 24, 2009 9:40 AM   
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This is what is needed. That kind of stimulous works and we should be talking about how to get more of these kind of comments here. We should be finding ways to proposing projects like that to the government and talking about it on Alternet.

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RE: Fixing Our Electric Grid
Posted by: phatkhat on Jan 24, 2009 11:18 PM   
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They are not going to hire "ghetto youths" at union wages, my friend. They will hire undocumented immigrants at slave wages, and when the wages are driven low enough, they might hire a few Americans at those same low wages.

Minorities are not the only unemployed people, either. Maybe they need to have a lottery, like the old draft lottery, for jobs. To ensure that everyone has an equal chance.

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We've been in the economic doldrums for 28, if not 40 years, already so what's new?
Posted by: jwverez on Jan 24, 2009 8:33 AM   
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Obama's gonna need cooperation from Congress and most likely two terms if he's to get anything significantly accomplished and that's assuming he doesn't morph into Bill Clinton v2.0.

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What happens if the bank bailout does not work?
Posted by: Naty on Jan 24, 2009 8:45 AM   
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May someone please give me some of their (confident) ideas as to what will happen if the bank bailout does not work? Will dollar hyper-inflate, will there be massive protests, will there be a revolution, will there be a new global currency, and or will things not change too much??

No one discusses what could happen if the bailouts don't work... is this because the consequences are unimaginable?

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Alright already!
Posted by: gnaw_bone on Jan 24, 2009 8:49 AM   
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For Chrissakes! Leave it to Alternet to give bandwidth to someone who can't let people take a little enjoyment out of achieving a small step toward a larger goal. Any thinking individual knows that we have lots of work to do. That doesn't mean that we can't stop for a moment and take a break.

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Mind Control 101
Posted by: ralphzilla on Jan 24, 2009 9:21 AM   
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It should be clear to those who can see beyond the fog of distraction that there is (and probably always was) a parallel society of uber rich and powerful that manipulate the others by using mind control and fear.

We've had 8 years of fear, now its time for the mind control game.

Obama is the latest creation. A fatherless, mostly rootless person with lofty ambitions. The perfect candidate for programming. I'm sure he thinks he is in control. A careful study of his speeches shows his ability for mass hypnotism. You probably think you are in control too.

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Control is illusion; influence is real
Posted by: metamind on Jan 24, 2009 9:44 AM   
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Mind control is an interesting concept. It assumes that control is possible. What is more real than the concept of control is the concept of influence. We all have influence on our environment, our government and the economy. Some of us have a lot more influence than others.

A reasonable perspective is to seek to increase one's influence in direct proportion to the quality of one's ideas. This means that we must let go of all prejudices, including the prejudice which says "my ideas are best."

I think I already heard Obama say something like this. He's on the right track if he's willing to be influenced by better people with better ideas.

We need a new economic system. This one is finished.

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Get Real
Posted by: Femmy68 on Jan 24, 2009 9:57 AM   
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HELLO...Did you REALLY think Obama could fix 20+ years worth of damage in a matter of four days? That is typical of the narrow-minded. Jump in and make assumptions before you have all the facts and without regard to history.

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» RE: Get Real Posted by: Beck
Capitalism & Socialism have failed us: Time for a NEW WAY
Posted by: global_commoner on Jan 24, 2009 10:23 AM   
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Yes, it is true this myth "market forces" will make everything great has shown itself to be merely a myth.

This worldwide financial collapse was predicted by Maitreya in 1988, along with many of his accurate predictions just prior to their happening (end of Apartheid, fall of Communism, release of Nelson Mandela, and others...)

Maitreya, the World Teacher, is about to be interviewed on a major US Television network for the first time.

He comes with reasonable, wise, and loving advice on how we can rebuild our world to be shaped around sustainability, justice, and sharing on an international level to end world hunger, poverty, war, and environmental disaster.

WATCH FOR HIS PUBLIC APPEARANCE SOON...

www.WakeUpMankind.org

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Karma Police
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 24, 2009 11:02 AM   
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The US and UK have been very naughty boys.

The UK has a long history of fucking over the rest of the World

Our insane teenage child the US has been even worse - and so far as our complete abortion Israel - well

Lets face it we have been really horrible evil bastards

And we are now going to have to eat shit

Its Karma

Its Natural

If you are nice - you get nice back

If you are evil - you get evil back

But there is something not quite right about all these discussions about the economy and debt

Virtually the entire world appears to be in massive debt

So who the hell do we owe all this money to?

No one ever discusses that in detail

People come out with crap like - China - but that is bollocks - much of China is even more impoverished than the worst of India

So who is it that we owe all this money to?

Cos whoever they are - they must already have far more than they know what to do with.

So what is the point in them having even more - what are they going to do with it?

Or is this thing - who we owe all this money to - some kind of Devil - who doesn't want to enslave us - but wants to delete us?

Why don't We delete the Devil instead?

Tony

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» RE: Karma Police Posted by: Naty
» RE: Karma Police Posted by: richholland
» RE: Karma Police Posted by: chance garden
Deek Explains It All With His Latest Masterpiece Puppets For Dummies
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 24, 2009 11:48 AM   
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GRAMMAR!
Posted by: brer rabbit on Jan 24, 2009 11:55 AM   
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This is not a metaphor:

(Warning: metaphor ahead.) A global economy is like a spacecraft.

It is a simile.

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Here's what I think (as if it mattered)
Posted by: willymack on Jan 24, 2009 2:46 PM   
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Our system of capitalism has had a series of boom and bust cycles, practically from DAY ONE. The usual small fry get steamrollered when businesses tumble and again when the "government" (that's US, folks) takes steps to rescue them with large infusions of OUR money. Of course that money goes down a rathole, never to be seen again. This is not just silly, but outright theft. So what happens? Some semblence of normality returns, only to repeat the cycle, with the same small fry getting the double purple, rhinestone-studded shaft again. We've been on this destructive merry-go-round far too long, and it's time for a whole new economic system to be implemented. In short, the old one SUCKS.

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Steve, our metaphonres are the same, I believe
Posted by: amacd on Jan 24, 2009 2:47 PM   
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Steve, I'll forgive you your spacecraft metaphor, if you will forgive me my nonlinear one --- since I think we are grasping at the same image of impending instability, chaos, and dysfunctional event horizons, on the way to our not-so-distant 'black hole'.

CEOs and financial crooks, and their corrupt political pals have a cumulative effect even if they don’t have the brains to realize it. It’s their unintended and unpredicted cumulative effect that will cause a nonlinear change to the system.

Thain, Madoff, Mozilo, Rigas, Lay, Skilling, Kozlowski, Ebbers, Mudd, Syron, Fuld, Blankfein, Sullivan, Greenberg, O'Neal, Killinger, Prince, Mack, Greenspan, Gramm, Paulson, Cox, Clinton, Bush, Cheney, and thousands of others each thought of themselves hubristically as flying ‘above the crowd’ and above the law, but they were all simply flying like a large and mindless flight of butterflies, thinking that their individual wing beats of turbulence in flying away with their ‘take’ was not enough to cause the overall system to go into chaos.

However, just as the turn from greed to fear of elitist 'players' in Wall Street's market is unpredictable and nonlinear, so is the turn from fear and submission to rage of the masses in societies unpredictable and nonlinear.

Throughout history ruling classes have consistently made the mistake of assuming that the rules, laws, customs, and overall structure of the societies that they themselves ruled would continue to maintain a polite and legal deference to the ruling-class, even in periods of economic decline, oppression, increasing inequality, destabilization, turbulence, and pressures on the masses. But any passing knowledge of thermal and fluid dynamics shows that in approaching turbulence, system behavior becomes highly nonlinear.

Two data points are worth consideration by the ruling-elite 'corporate financial Empire' controlling our country and hiding behind the facade of its two-party 'Vichy' sham of democratic government. One is the system behavior of late 18th century France, specifically the rule of Louis XVI, as the basic masses of that society approached an inflection point of economic pressure. The second (and predictive) data point for consideration might be their own CIA's warning that countries which exceed a GINI coefficient of income inequality above 0.45 are increasingly likely to experience unpredictable and potentially chaotic "civil unrest".

While the individual actions of single members of a ruling class, regardless of their egregious nature, may not effect and press a mass societal system into nonlinear and chaotic behavior, the lack of effective phase-lock loop feedback communications by the entire ruling-elite group makes sensitivity to approaching nonlinear conditional change quite unpredictable and dangerous.

While the probability of encountering a chaotic state-change in societal system behavior may appear to be a slight and manageable risk to ruling-elite individuals, just as the perceived risk of chaotic financial instability appeared low to LTCM, the actual risk level of approaching (and exceeding) the point of nonlinearity is always universally missed by ruling-elite empires.

Given the extreme turbulence and chaos when a mass society crosses the nonlinear tipping point, the ruling elite would be wise to avoid even approaching the boundary condition of this unpredictable risk --- but they won't!

Hence, Thain’s expensive decorating tastes, and Madoff's’s leasing of cars and jets, may well be the least of their problems, and the least of problems for all their crooked elite friends throughout the ruling-elite ‘corporate, financial, and political Empire’ we erroneously still call the US.

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Some of us don't have far to fall
Posted by: macdon1 on Jan 24, 2009 4:52 PM   
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I'm retired on social security and have learned to live without a car in a cheaper rental property. I eat less and have cut down to 4oz of meat per day and am ready to eliminate it entirely. I moved to a climate where it is possible to camp out all year and survive. My place is cooler in winter and warmer in summer than it used to be. My clothes come mostly from the thrift shop and I've found some pretty good things. Now I'm trying to put away some stuff for barter in case the dollar tanks and ever since Katrina I have a survival kit ready in a rolling backpack. Maybe economic collapse is the only thing that will get the American people back to reality. I'm ready.

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Danger, Will Robinson, danger!!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 24, 2009 5:37 PM   
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In other words, we are now in what will be the longest running episode in history of "Lost In Space," wherein Dr. Zachary Smith is played by George W. Bush, and the robot has been flailing his arms about for years while the Robinson family, played by all of us, has been in suspended animation.

I wish to hell that I could call for a rewrite, but this episode is already in the can –– literally.

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» RE: Danger, Will Robinson, danger!! Posted by: MausMasher54
And you Expected.....
Posted by: hilly7 on Jan 24, 2009 11:06 PM   
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McCain sucked, but so did the other choices, other tha Ron Paul. Most of Obama's people are TLC and CFR people, same as his cousin Cheney...only maybe his aims better.

You could not even find lower pieces of shit at the prisons and I would go as far as to say, Hell misses them.

Buy your Ameros now, I started.

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Obama's already proving the " yes we can" theory
Posted by: cherylsass123 on Jan 25, 2009 2:00 AM   
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lets see, so far Obama has 1. closed guantamamo and all that shit ; 2. reversed Bush's Global gag rule on abortion counseling and birth control ; 3. gotten the congress and both houses to pass the lilly ledbetter equal pay for equal work for women act.
4. and next week he will sign that equal pay for women act into law!
and so, Obama's trying really hard to " unfuck up" this country by reversing all the shit bush had " fucked up" to begin with. of course us women got stuck with the " conscience of choice" act, whatever it's called; which former president fucking wubbya bush asshole had made sure would go into law last tuesday. this right in time for that christo-fascist, asshole nurse at the american indian health center in new mexico to literally pull a woman's IUD out and then; refuse to re-insert it on grounds that it was " immoral" and " an abortion tool".
in many ways, I feel sorry for Obama and how hard he has got to work right now! I could never deal with all that stress he must have right about now, that's for sure!

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Rope a Dope campaign.
Posted by: gellero1 on Jan 25, 2009 2:49 AM   
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Why do writers continue to refer to 'Obama's Plan' ? He's not an expert on any economic matters at all. Never claimed to be.
The seeds of this economic meltdown started during the Clinton years.
The bankers aggravated it, and now the same bankers are telling the 'New Boss' how to rectify it.
Plus ca change, Plus la meme chose.

HERE'S A GOOD PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BANKING

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changes when???
Posted by: richholland on Jan 25, 2009 2:53 AM   
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as michael moore wrote if there had been medicare for all and normal mortgage rates maybe there was no recession.

so when OBAMA will implement health care for everybody??????????

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PS........
Posted by: gellero1 on Jan 25, 2009 2:54 AM   
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Swine and Avian flu were not 'nipped in the bud'.

They never really reached these shores.

Vaccination was a 'feel good' con on the masses.....very unfortunate for those who got Guillianne-Barre syndrome, thinking they were protecting themselves from a pandemic that never happened

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» RE: PS........ Posted by: richholland
Sen. John Boner Has Spoken
Posted by: jmmartin on Jan 25, 2009 12:54 PM   
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They had Sen. John Boehner, the Minority Leader, on MTP today and he said that one of the hold-out provisions the GOPS insist on including in the next bail-out bill is an income tax deduction of over four thousand dollars. This, he proposed, would be given to "families -- joint filers."

Excuse me? Does this mean that single filers will not get a deduction? Could it be that Boner wants to flirt his base by coming down on unmarried people, including gays and lesbians? Perhaps this is why the Obama forces have rejected the idea. Why should joint filers get over two thousand dollars each in deductions and single taxpayers get anything less than that amount -- each.

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LOL- those "youths" won't last 15 minutes at a real job
Posted by: eeezzz on Jan 25, 2009 4:16 PM   
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I guarantee it. They don't want jobs! They want checks and "beeneffittss." Don't kid yourself.

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Ghetto youth??
Posted by: gellero1 on Jan 25, 2009 8:35 PM   
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funny the so called 'black Congresional Caucus' never raised objection ( and in fact tacitly supported ) to the MILLIONS of illegals from Mexico taking jobs in the construction and restaurant industry that 'Americans won't do'....

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We paid Reparations, in BLOOD
Posted by: gellero1 on Jan 25, 2009 8:37 PM   
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How about the hundreds of thousands dead in the Civil War??

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Meanwhile NON-AMERICAN STARVE
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Jan 25, 2009 4:35 PM   
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because AMERICANS were so pleased with themselves they couldn't be BOTHERED to regulate their own financial industry.
nope.

Millions are starving.
Millions of non-Americans have been ROBBED because they TRUSTED THE US TO ACT LIKE ADULTS & PARTICIPATE IN AN ETHICAL IMPLEMENTATION OF DEMOCRACY & TRADE

nope, you were too busy bombing other nations & telling the rest of us we sucked
thanks America, for your interest & neighbourly concern

For example, Canadians ate shit for years to pay down the national debt *which occurred because we trusted the US Fed & Corporate culture to negotiate in good faith* with NAFTA

within 10 years, our entire debt paydown will be entirely eaten TO COVER THE FRAUD PERPETRATED UPON non-American FINANCIAL ENTITIES by Wall Street. That's not even including the 'joy' of the 'Security & Prosperity Partnership' cultural, economic & ecological rape we'll experience...

GEE THANKS... & thanks for all your concerns for every other nation on Earth. There are billions of us who were robbed blind, but you never hear a word about it from American media

so much for taking responsibility. nah, its only that every single American in a 'self-governing' democracy is a victim, right?

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Canada's 75 Billion Dollar Bank Bailout: The $64 Billion Federal Budget Deficit is intended to Finance Canada's Chartered Banks
By Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research,25.Jan09
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The Destabilization of the Federal Fiscal Structure

"This is the most serious public debt crisis in Canadian history.

The bank bailout potentially destabilizes the federal fiscal structure. It leads to a spiraling budget deficit, which must be financed at tax payers expense. The entire structure of public spending is affected including federal-provincial transfers. The (federal) public debt is slated to increase by 14 % over a two year period. The provincial debts are also likely to increase dramatically.

The 75 billion dollar bailout is to be partially financed by increasing the public debt.

The Minister of Finance has intimated that further measures are envisaged "to bolster the availability of credit" with the government "injecting capital into banks if necessary." (Bloomberg, January 23, 2009) It is worth noting that in addition to the $75 billion, the government has pledged "to backstop more than $200 billion in interbank lending so banks can boost their lending capacity." (Toronto Star, December 13, 2009). The implications of this decision remain to carefully analysed.

What we can expect is a combination of budgetary compressions coupled with an increase of the public debt. Most categories of federal expenditure (excluding defense) are likely to be affected.

The federal fiscal structure is in jeopardy. The budget deficit finances the bank bailout.

What is likely to occur are more government "handouts" to banks and corporations coupled with a massive austerity program and a spiraling public debt.

The size of the public debt is also affected by the economic crisis. Company layoffs and bankruptcies seriously affect the revenues of the State. Unemployed people and bankrupt companies do not pay taxes. The increase in unemployment and the contraction in salaried earnings will backlash on tax revenues, which in turn contributes to exacerbating the fiscal crisis both at the federal and provincial levels.
"
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THANKS WALL STREET: that's only the SECOND FINANCIAL MELTDOWN you've caused the World in UNDER 100 YEARS

how can we ever repay you?

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» Don't be idiotic Posted by: gellero1
I Am HUMAN
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jan 25, 2009 6:53 PM   
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And I Still Love All My Girfriends

And I have got a Memory Like an Elephant

Tony

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» Me too Posted by: gellero1
Trust No One!
Posted by: HeatherC on Jan 26, 2009 9:55 AM   
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I'm very happy that Bush is gone, but Obama is no improvement. Obama is merely a continuation of Bush's failed policies. Looking at the big picture, we should have risen up 7 years ago when things weren't as bad. And where are we now?

We'd better stop dragging our own feet and spell it out for those morons in Washington. They work for us, not us for them. No more bailouts, no more pork! I don't care what it takes. Secession of the northern industrialized states, cut immigration for ten years, a federal tax revolt where we pay our federal taxes to our home states, whatever. Just do something and do it now!

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