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America's New Year Resolution: Stop Being Stupid

We have behaved in ways that were incredibly and embarrassingly stupid for much too long. It's time to stop the self-destruction.
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I’ve got a new year’s resolution and a new slogan for the country.

The resolution may be difficult, but it’s essential. Americans must resolve to be smarter going forward than we have been for the past several years.

Look around you. We have behaved in ways that were incredibly, astonishingly and embarrassingly stupid for much too long. We’ve wrecked the economy and mortgaged the future of generations yet unborn. We don’t even know if we’ll have an automobile industry in the coming years. It’s time to stop the self-destruction.

The slogan? “Invest in the U.S.” By that I mean we should stop squandering the nation’s wealth on unnecessary warfare overseas and mindless consumption here at home and start making sensible investments in the well-being of the American people and the long-term health of the economy.

The mind-boggling stupidity that we’ve indulged in was hammered home by a comment almost casually delivered by, of all people, Bernie Madoff, the mild-mannered creator of what appears to have been a nuclear-powered Ponzi scheme. Madoff summed up his activities with devastating simplicity. He is said to have told the F.B.I. that he “paid investors with money that wasn’t there.”

Somehow, over the past few decades, that has become the American way: to pay for things -- from wars to Wall Street bonuses to flat-screen TVs to video games -- with money that wasn’t there.

Something for nothing became the order of the day. You want to invade Iraq? Convince yourself that oil revenues out of Baghdad will pay for it. (Meanwhile, carve out another deficit channel in the federal budget.) You want to pump up profits in the financial sector? End the oversight and let the lunatics in the asylum run wild.

For those who wanted a bigger house in a nicer neighborhood, there were mortgages with absurdly easy terms. Credit-card offers came in the mail like confetti, and we used them like there was no tomorrow. For students stunned by the skyrocketing cost of tuition, there were college loans that could last a lifetime.

Money that wasn’t there.

Plenty of people managed their credit wisely. But much of the country, including many of the top government officials and financial titans who were supposed to be guarding the nation’s wealth, acted as if there would never be a day of reckoning, a day when -- inevitably -- the soaring markets would crash and the bubbles explode.

We were stupid in so many ways. We shipped American jobs overseas by the millions and came up with the fiction that this was a good deal for just about everybody. We could have and should have taken the time and made the effort to think globalization through, to be smarter about it and craft ways to cushion its more harmful effects and to share its benefits more equitably.

We bought into the dopey idea that you could radically cut taxes and still maintain critical government services -- and fight two wars to boot!

We were living in a dream world. The general public, and to a great extent the press, closed its eyes to the increasingly complex and baffling machinations of the financial industry, which kept screaming that oversight would ruin everything.

We should have known better. It didn’t require a genius (or even an economics degree) to understand a crucial point that popped up some years ago in a front-page article in The Wall Street Journal: “Markets are a great way to organize economic activity, but they need adult supervision.”

Did Alan Greenspan not understand that? Bob Rubin? Larry Summers?

Now that the reality of a stunning economic downturn has so roughly intervened, we at least have the option of being smarter going forward. There is broad agreement that we have no choice but to go much more deeply into debt to jump-start the economy. But we have tremendous choices as to how we use that debt.

We should use it to invest in the U.S. -- in a world-class infrastructure (in its broadest sense) to serve as the platform for a world-class, 21st-century economy, and in a system of education that actually prepares American youngsters to deal successfully with the real world they will be encountering.

We need to invest in a health care system that improves the quality of American lives, enhances productivity, puts large numbers of additional people to work and eases the competitive burden of U.S. corporations.

We need to care for our environment (if long-term survival means anything to us) and get serious about weaning ourselves from foreign oil.

And, finally, we need to start living within our means and get past the nauseating idea that the essence of our culture and the be-all and end-all of the American economy is the limitless consumption of trashy consumer goods.

It’s time to stop being stupid.


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RE: THERE IS NO MORE NEWS ONLY VIEWS AND THE CROOKED NEO-CONS WORKED THAT WELL
Posted by: Terry Jackson on Jan 3, 2009 10:26 AM   
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What's wrong with this picture? People like you Dwight. You have the nerve to bring up back taxes on other individuals. Hmm, Very interesting.

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RE: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES
Posted by: Lilykins on Dec 29, 2008 5:01 AM   
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Our society has been set up to be civilized. When we are angry about something our government does, we go through the proper channels, filling out the approapriate paperwork to get things done. We choose this way over life because we wanted a peaceful, orderly, safe place to live. We saw other countries with their violent, screaming masses thowing rocks and burning cars in the streets to protest, and we thought we were so much more civilized than they.
Unfortunately, we have recently discovered that our form of peaceful protests and proper paper work filing doesn't do anything; it's just wasted time. If our government decides to hand out billions of dollars of our money to their wealthy friends without even bothering to promise us anything in return, they can simply do it. As long as we play by our own rules, we citizens are completely at the mercy of our leaders. We need to take our power back and put fear into our leaders. They are supposed to be there for us, OUR employees. We need to have the power to fire whomever, whenever we want. We need to have the power to imprison leaders who break laws.

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As you wish (donner und blitzen)...
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Dec 29, 2008 6:32 AM   
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The time has arrived. Are you ready to do what is necessary to be truly free?

The first step is to not scoff. The next is to understand the truth. The next is to help others understand how to succeed.

Here is Wisdom...

Peace soon !!!

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RE: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 29, 2008 7:25 AM   
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Bob Herbert writes a column that appears in the NY Times. He does not own run and operate the paper nor decide on it's policies. He is honest, makes his contribution which most of the time is a cut above most of the crap other papers publish. He is definitely not a part of the problem. Anna

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RE: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES
Posted by: Diecash1 on Dec 29, 2008 7:58 AM   
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While we are piling on the grammar lessons, how about one more?

When you decide to post a three part diatribe, you should at the very least get the grammar right.

"STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES AND WE ARE NOT SO MUCH STUPID AS OUR NATION HAS BECOME A BUNCH OF SPINELESS MOROSE OF MORONS."

morose
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Main Entry:
mo·rose Listen to the pronunciation of morose
Pronunciation:
mə-ˈrōs, mȯ-
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Latin morosus, literally, capricious, from mor-, mos will
Date:
1565

1 : having a sullen and gloomy disposition
2 : marked by or expressive of gloom

Morose is an ADJECTIVE, not a noun.

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what a laugh
Posted by: socialpsych on Dec 29, 2008 3:30 AM   
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This is quite a stunning admonishment coming from a New York Times writer. The NYT has led the way in ensuring that the American people are misinformed and misled.

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stop being stupid
Posted by: Lauren on Dec 29, 2008 4:33 AM   
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Bob Herbert
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 29, 2008 5:15 AM   
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One-hundred years from today, when historians look back on these exceedingly depressing times, the New York Times is not going to look too good, that's for damned sure. The number of heroic journalists from that paper they will be able to count on the fingers of one hand.

Bob Herbert will be among the very few. The man rocks.

A Long Ago Christmas Moon

Tom Degan

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Stop being stupid, properly investigate 9/11
Posted by: rt968 on Dec 29, 2008 5:50 AM   
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Until a proper investigation happens, (it won't) you will just get more of the same and worse to come. Obama ain't going to do anything different even if he wants to.

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Don’t count your Reichstags before they’re burnt.
Posted by: Honkie the Nihilist on Dec 29, 2008 6:56 AM   
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If Bush is a true dictator, he won’t be going anywhere.

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RE: LOL
Posted by: Crazy H on Dec 29, 2008 8:20 AM   
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And maybe we'll even be so lucky as to get the #$%!! spammers off the internetz.

Jerk
Get Your University Degree Online

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Stupid is as stupid does...
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Dec 29, 2008 6:21 AM   
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People who don't understand the truth about our civilization and reality will continue to be duped into making the wrong choices. Did you ever consider that you are inundated by deceptions?

Time to think outside of the many imposed "boxes" that limit our choices, to bad and worse.

Patience and Humility...

Peace and Wisdom...

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Stop being stupid and give 3rd parties a CHANCE ! And pay attention to local/state elections.
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 29, 2008 6:40 AM   
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Telling us to vote Democrat simply because the Republicans are bad only to watch the Democrats act no different is just as STUPID ! By choking off 3rd parties from the media and even the internet, you're only forcing others to believe the lie that 3rd parties are somehow not trustworthy. Give them a chance and let them show you the progressive/liberal way out of this mess.

And if that ain't bad enough, most people are even STUPIDER when it comes to prioritizing presidential elections and select races in Congress simply because of whoopdeedoo shit polls over all others. Local and state level governments affect you even more than national government. As a matter of fact, by neglecting state and local races, you allow the religions, corporate, and military monied elites to fuck you whereas if you had paid attention to all levels, those monied elites would have been clearly put on the defensive and you'd have a better say. If you all don't want shitpots in Washington, keep fighting for better pols on local and state levels. Then you'll get a Washington that does not give you the middle finger.

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Money that wasn't there...
Posted by: Cathyc on Dec 29, 2008 6:49 AM   
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As I was going up the stair
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away!

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Vitriol & Panaceas
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Dec 29, 2008 7:01 AM   
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Without power none of these ideas are worth the ether they're written on.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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charles pierce
Posted by: chasalex on Dec 29, 2008 7:06 AM   
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I was interested to find this blog. 20 years ago I had a book published on different economic concepts to point the way to a sustainable world economy. Someone who liked the book contacted me this year to suggest that I update and re-publish it as a blog. She set up the blog, and the book is now complete on the blog in a series of postings. There are now also additional pieces on global warming and other subjects. Here is the link:

http://www.economicsforaroundearth.com

With all good wishes,
Charles Pierce

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herbert hypocrisy
Posted by: wleming on Dec 29, 2008 8:04 AM   
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Herbert works for the Times: who advocated an illegal war; lives from its advertising revenues, fired Ray Bonners when he reported,accurately, on the US sponsored massacre at El Mozote; and which has been described as less a news organ.. than a State Department hand out. Yes: lets stop being stupid Mr. Herbert. Get a life.

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Technology, science, infrastructure improvements...these things are unpredictable.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Dec 29, 2008 8:19 AM   
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Stupid is reliable. That's why we bank on it--betting on stupidity is a great way to make a living. You'll never be short on customers!

I mean, look at the State Lottery--especially when the proceeds go to education. Talk about irony: the lottery is a State sanctioned tax on people who can't do math. Casino's are no better, except they actually create jobs, employ people, and contribute to the State coffers. And yes, I like the roads that Casino's help build, as opposed to the lazy self-serving bastards in government.

Look at the tobacco tax, where, in my state, it's partially used to pay the cost of medical care for paupers and also subsidize education. Get that? We rely on people to continue smoking to treat the indigent and educate their kids. It's a State habit!

But stupid doesn't just fund State activities and gambling enterprises. It enables folks in the car industry to make money--a (f)lease is the first thing any savvy salesman will try to sell you when you walk into a new car dealership. They'll gradually move into high interest rate realms, and gradually lower it until the stupid are locked into their "dream car" their car with interest over a five-to-seven year term. If it sounds like a prison sentence, then duh (tm)(r), lol.

Credit cards? Consumer loans? Designer/organic foods? The "next best" thing in electronics? Cashing out equity in your home to put "my plama tv, dog" in your living room...the one the bank now owns? Carbon credits?

Stupid is a vital engine in our economy. How dare you jeopardize the livelihood of so many Americans by pointing out obvious sh_t to our dumb, paying customers! If they wise up and stop buying, we won't be paying as much in taxes, and how in the hell to you propose to build roads and fund medicaid then, genius?

Print more money? Oh yeah...we're doing that already. HA!

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caronome
Posted by: Bayardtom on Dec 29, 2008 8:26 AM   
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What all of us have to learn is that our representatives work for us. If we don't like what they do or don't do, we fire them! And we must inform them all in no uncertain terms that we will definitely do that.

So, we have to get to our computers or desks or phones and let them know that, but loud! We do have power. We must learn how to use it. The Bush crime family sent the message that (they (he) were the deciders) Well, that is not true. If we make our wishes known, they have to obey or they are out on their fat behinds!

I will never understand why the people have not risen up and demanded that Bush and his whole gang of thieves and murderers be thrown out - impeached! I know that a great number of us have been vocal but I guess we will have to wait until this bunch is out of office to indict and prosecute and jail. But that had better happen or there wil be a mass exodus out of this country. I would be long gone if I weren't 74 years old.

The fact that the Democratic Party refused the podium to Jimmy Carter at the convention has made me rethink my party affiliation. The fact that he, almost exclusively, tells the truth, made him unattractive to them. That sickened me and maybe from now on I will be an Independant voter.

But the movement for a not for profit health care plan is snowballing and it willl probably happen in the next year or so. That will happen only if we all keep up the pressure on our legislators. So, in every letter to your representatives please demand that they pass this and pass it now! This act alone will have a great and positive effect on the economy by releasing businesses and schools and all employers from having to provide health "insurance" (Hiss).

Another little message to our representatives about that is the fact that they have always had great health care plans. What makes them think that they are any more worthy of that than any of us? Aren't we all supposed to be "created equal"? Of course there have always been people who are more equal than others. Nice!

So, we have our work cut out for us. If we all spend an hour a day at the computer or writing letters making sure that we make our wishes and demands clear to the bozos in Washington, there will be a response. We have to use France as an example in this case. There the government is afraid of the people as opposed to here where the people are afraid of the government. Certainly the people there couldn't be any brighter than we are, right?

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I agree but.....
Posted by: TexasCowboy on Dec 29, 2008 8:33 AM   
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I do not work on Wall Street, the Bush Administration, the Auto Industry, Banks or Financial Institutions. I am not a mortgage broker, a congressman, nor do I work for the Federal Reserve, Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, nor AIG, nor Citibank. I do not work for Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch,or Lehman Brothers.
I did not vote for nor support the Iraq War. It seems to me the focus should be on those responsible for the mess America finds itself in. George W Bush, Alberto Gonzales, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, Alan Greenspan, Henry Paulson, Ben Bernanke, Phil Gramm and others. Americans are suffering because of the greed and mismanagement of our nations economy and tax payers' money. Americans should never forget who is directly responsible.

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A Good Resolution...
Posted by: djnoll on Dec 29, 2008 8:42 AM   
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We have elected a president who understands the importance of an education.

We have been asked to become involved in our own governance and in our communities. This will require not only giving up being stupid in our choices, but also becoming better educated in our options.

We are not stuck in any place in history, we are now able to make history. We can exercise our options to move forward to address problems like global warming, oil depletion and energy independence, American job creation, and social issues, like education, health care, Social Security. WE ARE THE ONES WHO CAN DO THIS!!!

We are no longer going to allow ourselves to become so complacent that we allow our children to fall behind the rest of the world in innovation, knowledge, and determination. We will push our children to once again think.

Are you noticing the pattern here? It is all about US, WE, the collective plural. It is not about one man or one group of men and women that we elected. It is all about how WE act that will overcome the stupidity. It will be all about how we never again allow ourselves to become so blinded by greed and apathy that we allow others to determine how we will survive. IT WILL BE ALL ABOUT US AND HOW WE CHANGE THAT WILL BE THE END RESULT OF THIS RESOLUTION: WE WILL STOP BEING STUPID!

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What do you mean "we?"
Posted by: douglashoyt on Dec 29, 2008 10:04 AM   
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What do you mean “we?” There are many well educated people who warned of the economic problems some financial ruling elite were creating. So do not say “we.” I had no part in this foolishness. I like, most of the people in the world, are only victims of ponzi schemes and thieves within government and banking systems.

The ruling elite have not changed. Mr. Obama is using the services of the same people from the ruling elite who got this world into the economic disaster-Mr. Rubin and Mr. Summers-to use your examples.

And don’t say “invest.” Money needs to be “spent.” And the money should come from taxes, very progressive taxes on the rich and very rich. These are the people who gained unjustly at the expense of most everyone else. Now they should pay for the mess they made and pay for the clean up.

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True
Posted by: Cialo on Dec 29, 2008 12:36 PM   
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The article is very true. Something needs to change, and it needs to change soon. The attitudes and actions of people need to change, including those of corporations. Corporations are solely responsibly for much of this mess. They're also responsible for telling the American people materialism=happiness. The question is, will we change?

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Americans are referred to As Consumers
Posted by: Shankari46 on Dec 29, 2008 12:44 PM   
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We are also encouraged to go on buying sprees for the good of the nation and heaven forbid if "consumer confidence" goes down. That means you are not buying enough. What happens is Joe American stupid goes to Wal-Mart and buys a bunch of stuff on credit. That money goes mostly to billionaire boss Sam Walton and a little goes to China and the poor employees. Reality has to be faced in that the government uses people to buy, buy, buy, and the mortgage companies counted on stupid people to get mortgages that should have been illegal.
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Let's try something more achievable
Posted by: scurvybro on Dec 29, 2008 2:19 PM   
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America stop being stupid?

That's like asking America to stop being located between Canada and Mexico.

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Stop being stupid?
Posted by: chomsky on Dec 29, 2008 3:32 PM   
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Well I would say stop imposing self ignorance and stupidity. In other words grow up and think for yourself. And don’t take the New York as gospel. The only true free media is the internet and not just from Alternet. All sides contain truth and lies.

As for the US government stop with the wars, coup-detat, proxy wars, false flags, support of terrorism, war on drugs, war on poverty, war on men, war on third world, support of tyrants, and sponsoring of US "democracy" abroad.

Same goes for the EU.

The current financial crises does not destroy real wealth just moves it around into corrupt hands. Think of it as a wealth grab.

The article mentions sustainability and yet does not actually discuss the economy, which is not uncommon for BS articles. Tell me how an economy can be sustainable when it relies on debt for growth? Should it ever stop, the economy collapses. The economy is sustained by mass ignorance and greed. The only way I see it would stop is either through war or when the whole world is consumed by one giant fugly corporation.


BTW: Stop blaming Bush, the guy is an idiot. He is merely a scapegoat and the issue is more than just Bush and the Republicans.

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My mama used to say:
Posted by: willymack on Dec 29, 2008 6:00 PM   
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Don't be a jerk. One example of jerkiness is allowing the bush crime family to steal the presidency-TWICE. There's enough irrefutable evidence for fraud to make a convincing case against the bushies for the 2000 theft, and get several supreme court justices sacked as well. Wanna bet this'll happen?

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RE: Sticks and stones may break my bones
Posted by: sirios on Dec 29, 2008 6:19 PM   
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Honkie, your teenage tirade concerning mothers and oral sex was the single most offense and uncalled for comment ever posted on Alternet. The only interesting and revealing aspect of your retort was how aggressive your response was to being called stupid. I hope the staff at Alternet considers a permanent ban for such vile behavior.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on Dec 29, 2008 7:53 PM   
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How odd for the NYT to be writing this now ,Now that we have gone bankrupt with its help over the last few years. Dont believe anything you read in that publication. It is a mouthpiece for the ruling elite and it has an agenda --the agenda is to make us all feel guilty about the excesses and theft by the ruling elite and the Bush crime family.Dont buy into the poisonous pedagogy from the author.We are only stupid if we believe his junk.

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Some of us were just REALLY stupid
Posted by: yesman on Dec 29, 2008 10:56 PM   
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Sure, none of us are perfect and blameless, economically or otherwise. However, we should come to grips with the fact that all of the disasters that we are currently faced with can be primarily laid at the feet of one group: the Christian fundamentalist religious right. They are the ones who have consistently voted in the free-market ideological radicals because the Republicans were willing to create a "culture war" to get their votes. The scam worked beautifully. The fundamentalists have kept the Republicans in power to pursue their agenda of pillaging our country for the sake of the rich. And guess what? The rich crooks so far have been able not only to retain their ill-gotten gains, but to get massive additional handouts of taxpayer money--that is, money that you and I, and many future generations to come, will be paying, and paying, and paying.

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"Us" and "We"
Posted by: gar1948 on Dec 30, 2008 7:03 PM   
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Did you ever notice how some people use the words "us" and "we" when they are trying to spread the blame for their own stupidity, ignorance and short-sightedness?

I, as many others here on Alternet, have been opposed to the Bush administration, all their Neocon predecessors, and all their 'steal from the poor, give to the rich' policies for the last thirty years.

So don't include me in your sweeping generalizations of ignorance and stupidity.

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How can the U.S. avoid being stupid.......
Posted by: tap17x on Dec 30, 2008 8:51 PM   
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.........when the voters twice ALMOST elected an idiot to run, I mean ruin, the country? So long as most voters are political morons, they will elect worse than mediocre candidates. As usual, I blame mostly the Refucklicans for this. The MSM behaved terribly too.

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HOW MANY???
Posted by: reelman on Jan 2, 2009 12:00 PM   
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This goes along with one of my favorite sayings, "ignore what is said, watch what is done".
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COLUMBIA, S.C. -AP- U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett says he is donating his new congressional raise to an Anderson charity.

Barrett says he will donate the $4,700 salary increase that begins in 2009 to Anderson Interfaith Ministries - an organization of churches and individuals who provide assistance to the needy and helps them become self-sufficient.

Barrett says lawmakers should not be earning more during these poor economic times. He says he voted against the automatic pay raise and all increases should have to be voted on individually.

Barrett is beginning his fourth term in Congress. The Republican's district runs along the Savannah River in the northwestern corner of South Carolina.
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HOW MANY MULTIMILLIONAIRE DEMOCRATS WILL GIVE THEIR RAISE TO CHARITY? HOW MANY WILL "WALK THE WALK"?
YOU KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS THAT GIVE ONLY LIP SERVICE WHEN ITS THEIR MONEY AND LAY GUILT TRIPS ON EVERYONE...
so much for another liberal and libmedia lie (myth)...

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RE: THERE IS NO MORE NEWS ONLY VIEWS AND THE CROOKED NEO-CONS WORKED THAT WELL
Posted by: Terry Jackson on Jan 3, 2009 10:26 AM   
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What's wrong with this picture? People like you Dwight. You have the nerve to bring up back taxes on other individuals. Hmm, Very interesting.

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RE: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES
Posted by: Lilykins on Dec 29, 2008 5:01 AM   
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Our society has been set up to be civilized. When we are angry about something our government does, we go through the proper channels, filling out the approapriate paperwork to get things done. We choose this way over life because we wanted a peaceful, orderly, safe place to live. We saw other countries with their violent, screaming masses thowing rocks and burning cars in the streets to protest, and we thought we were so much more civilized than they.
Unfortunately, we have recently discovered that our form of peaceful protests and proper paper work filing doesn't do anything; it's just wasted time. If our government decides to hand out billions of dollars of our money to their wealthy friends without even bothering to promise us anything in return, they can simply do it. As long as we play by our own rules, we citizens are completely at the mercy of our leaders. We need to take our power back and put fear into our leaders. They are supposed to be there for us, OUR employees. We need to have the power to fire whomever, whenever we want. We need to have the power to imprison leaders who break laws.

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As you wish (donner und blitzen)...
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Dec 29, 2008 6:32 AM   
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The time has arrived. Are you ready to do what is necessary to be truly free?

The first step is to not scoff. The next is to understand the truth. The next is to help others understand how to succeed.

Here is Wisdom...

Peace soon !!!

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RE: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Dec 29, 2008 7:25 AM   
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Bob Herbert writes a column that appears in the NY Times. He does not own run and operate the paper nor decide on it's policies. He is honest, makes his contribution which most of the time is a cut above most of the crap other papers publish. He is definitely not a part of the problem. Anna

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RE: STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES
Posted by: Diecash1 on Dec 29, 2008 7:58 AM   
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While we are piling on the grammar lessons, how about one more?

When you decide to post a three part diatribe, you should at the very least get the grammar right.

"STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES AND WE ARE NOT SO MUCH STUPID AS OUR NATION HAS BECOME A BUNCH OF SPINELESS MOROSE OF MORONS."

morose
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Main Entry:
mo·rose Listen to the pronunciation of morose
Pronunciation:
mə-ˈrōs, mȯ-
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Latin morosus, literally, capricious, from mor-, mos will
Date:
1565

1 : having a sullen and gloomy disposition
2 : marked by or expressive of gloom

Morose is an ADJECTIVE, not a noun.

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what a laugh
Posted by: socialpsych on Dec 29, 2008 3:30 AM   
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This is quite a stunning admonishment coming from a New York Times writer. The NYT has led the way in ensuring that the American people are misinformed and misled.

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stop being stupid
Posted by: Lauren on Dec 29, 2008 4:33 AM   
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Bob Herbert
Posted by: Tom Degan on Dec 29, 2008 5:15 AM   
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One-hundred years from today, when historians look back on these exceedingly depressing times, the New York Times is not going to look too good, that's for damned sure. The number of heroic journalists from that paper they will be able to count on the fingers of one hand.

Bob Herbert will be among the very few. The man rocks.

A Long Ago Christmas Moon

Tom Degan

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Stop being stupid, properly investigate 9/11
Posted by: rt968 on Dec 29, 2008 5:50 AM   
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Until a proper investigation happens, (it won't) you will just get more of the same and worse to come. Obama ain't going to do anything different even if he wants to.

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Don’t count your Reichstags before they’re burnt.
Posted by: Honkie the Nihilist on Dec 29, 2008 6:56 AM   
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If Bush is a true dictator, he won’t be going anywhere.

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RE: LOL
Posted by: Crazy H on Dec 29, 2008 8:20 AM   
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And maybe we'll even be so lucky as to get the #$%!! spammers off the internetz.

Jerk
Get Your University Degree Online

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Stupid is as stupid does...
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Dec 29, 2008 6:21 AM   
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People who don't understand the truth about our civilization and reality will continue to be duped into making the wrong choices. Did you ever consider that you are inundated by deceptions?

Time to think outside of the many imposed "boxes" that limit our choices, to bad and worse.

Patience and Humility...

Peace and Wisdom...

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Stop being stupid and give 3rd parties a CHANCE ! And pay attention to local/state elections.
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 29, 2008 6:40 AM   
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Telling us to vote Democrat simply because the Republicans are bad only to watch the Democrats act no different is just as STUPID ! By choking off 3rd parties from the media and even the internet, you're only forcing others to believe the lie that 3rd parties are somehow not trustworthy. Give them a chance and let them show you the progressive/liberal way out of this mess.

And if that ain't bad enough, most people are even STUPIDER when it comes to prioritizing presidential elections and select races in Congress simply because of whoopdeedoo shit polls over all others. Local and state level governments affect you even more than national government. As a matter of fact, by neglecting state and local races, you allow the religions, corporate, and military monied elites to fuck you whereas if you had paid attention to all levels, those monied elites would have been clearly put on the defensive and you'd have a better say. If you all don't want shitpots in Washington, keep fighting for better pols on local and state levels. Then you'll get a Washington that does not give you the middle finger.

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Money that wasn't there...
Posted by: Cathyc on Dec 29, 2008 6:49 AM   
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As I was going up the stair
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away!

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Vitriol & Panaceas
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Dec 29, 2008 7:01 AM   
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Without power none of these ideas are worth the ether they're written on.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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charles pierce
Posted by: chasalex on Dec 29, 2008 7:06 AM   
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I was interested to find this blog. 20 years ago I had a book published on different economic concepts to point the way to a sustainable world economy. Someone who liked the book contacted me this year to suggest that I update and re-publish it as a blog. She set up the blog, and the book is now complete on the blog in a series of postings. There are now also additional pieces on global warming and other subjects. Here is the link:

http://www.economicsforaroundearth.com

With all good wishes,
Charles Pierce

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herbert hypocrisy
Posted by: wleming on Dec 29, 2008 8:04 AM   
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Herbert works for the Times: who advocated an illegal war; lives from its advertising revenues, fired Ray Bonners when he reported,accurately, on the US sponsored massacre at El Mozote; and which has been described as less a news organ.. than a State Department hand out. Yes: lets stop being stupid Mr. Herbert. Get a life.

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Technology, science, infrastructure improvements...these things are unpredictable.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Dec 29, 2008 8:19 AM   
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Stupid is reliable. That's why we bank on it--betting on stupidity is a great way to make a living. You'll never be short on customers!

I mean, look at the State Lottery--especially when the proceeds go to education. Talk about irony: the lottery is a State sanctioned tax on people who can't do math. Casino's are no better, except they actually create jobs, employ people, and contribute to the State coffers. And yes, I like the roads that Casino's help build, as opposed to the lazy self-serving bastards in government.

Look at the tobacco tax, where, in my state, it's partially used to pay the cost of medical care for paupers and also subsidize education. Get that? We rely on people to continue smoking to treat the indigent and educate their kids. It's a State habit!

But stupid doesn't just fund State activities and gambling enterprises. It enables folks in the car industry to make money--a (f)lease is the first thing any savvy salesman will try to sell you when you walk into a new car dealership. They'll gradually move into high interest rate realms, and gradually lower it until the stupid are locked into their "dream car" their car with interest over a five-to-seven year term. If it sounds like a prison sentence, then duh (tm)(r), lol.

Credit cards? Consumer loans? Designer/organic foods? The "next best" thing in electronics? Cashing out equity in your home to put "my plama tv, dog" in your living room...the one the bank now owns? Carbon credits?

Stupid is a vital engine in our economy. How dare you jeopardize the livelihood of so many Americans by pointing out obvious sh_t to our dumb, paying customers! If they wise up and stop buying, we won't be paying as much in taxes, and how in the hell to you propose to build roads and fund medicaid then, genius?

Print more money? Oh yeah...we're doing that already. HA!

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caronome
Posted by: Bayardtom on Dec 29, 2008 8:26 AM   
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What all of us have to learn is that our representatives work for us. If we don't like what they do or don't do, we fire them! And we must inform them all in no uncertain terms that we will definitely do that.

So, we have to get to our computers or desks or phones and let them know that, but loud! We do have power. We must learn how to use it. The Bush crime family sent the message that (they (he) were the deciders) Well, that is not true. If we make our wishes known, they have to obey or they are out on their fat behinds!

I will never understand why the people have not risen up and demanded that Bush and his whole gang of thieves and murderers be thrown out - impeached! I know that a great number of us have been vocal but I guess we will have to wait until this bunch is out of office to indict and prosecute and jail. But that had better happen or there wil be a mass exodus out of this country. I would be long gone if I weren't 74 years old.

The fact that the Democratic Party refused the podium to Jimmy Carter at the convention has made me rethink my party affiliation. The fact that he, almost exclusively, tells the truth, made him unattractive to them. That sickened me and maybe from now on I will be an Independant voter.

But the movement for a not for profit health care plan is snowballing and it willl probably happen in the next year or so. That will happen only if we all keep up the pressure on our legislators. So, in every letter to your representatives please demand that they pass this and pass it now! This act alone will have a great and positive effect on the economy by releasing businesses and schools and all employers from having to provide health "insurance" (Hiss).

Another little message to our representatives about that is the fact that they have always had great health care plans. What makes them think that they are any more worthy of that than any of us? Aren't we all supposed to be "created equal"? Of course there have always been people who are more equal than others. Nice!

So, we have our work cut out for us. If we all spend an hour a day at the computer or writing letters making sure that we make our wishes and demands clear to the bozos in Washington, there will be a response. We have to use France as an example in this case. There the government is afraid of the people as opposed to here where the people are afraid of the government. Certainly the people there couldn't be any brighter than we are, right?

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I agree but.....
Posted by: TexasCowboy on Dec 29, 2008 8:33 AM   
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I do not work on Wall Street, the Bush Administration, the Auto Industry, Banks or Financial Institutions. I am not a mortgage broker, a congressman, nor do I work for the Federal Reserve, Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, nor AIG, nor Citibank. I do not work for Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch,or Lehman Brothers.
I did not vote for nor support the Iraq War. It seems to me the focus should be on those responsible for the mess America finds itself in. George W Bush, Alberto Gonzales, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, Alan Greenspan, Henry Paulson, Ben Bernanke, Phil Gramm and others. Americans are suffering because of the greed and mismanagement of our nations economy and tax payers' money. Americans should never forget who is directly responsible.

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A Good Resolution...
Posted by: djnoll on Dec 29, 2008 8:42 AM   
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We have elected a president who understands the importance of an education.

We have been asked to become involved in our own governance and in our communities. This will require not only giving up being stupid in our choices, but also becoming better educated in our options.

We are not stuck in any place in history, we are now able to make history. We can exercise our options to move forward to address problems like global warming, oil depletion and energy independence, American job creation, and social issues, like education, health care, Social Security. WE ARE THE ONES WHO CAN DO THIS!!!

We are no longer going to allow ourselves to become so complacent that we allow our children to fall behind the rest of the world in innovation, knowledge, and determination. We will push our children to once again think.

Are you noticing the pattern here? It is all about US, WE, the collective plural. It is not about one man or one group of men and women that we elected. It is all about how WE act that will overcome the stupidity. It will be all about how we never again allow ourselves to become so blinded by greed and apathy that we allow others to determine how we will survive. IT WILL BE ALL ABOUT US AND HOW WE CHANGE THAT WILL BE THE END RESULT OF THIS RESOLUTION: WE WILL STOP BEING STUPID!

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What do you mean "we?"
Posted by: douglashoyt on Dec 29, 2008 10:04 AM   
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What do you mean “we?” There are many well educated people who warned of the economic problems some financial ruling elite were creating. So do not say “we.” I had no part in this foolishness. I like, most of the people in the world, are only victims of ponzi schemes and thieves within government and banking systems.

The ruling elite have not changed. Mr. Obama is using the services of the same people from the ruling elite who got this world into the economic disaster-Mr. Rubin and Mr. Summers-to use your examples.

And don’t say “invest.” Money needs to be “spent.” And the money should come from taxes, very progressive taxes on the rich and very rich. These are the people who gained unjustly at the expense of most everyone else. Now they should pay for the mess they made and pay for the clean up.

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True
Posted by: Cialo on Dec 29, 2008 12:36 PM   
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The article is very true. Something needs to change, and it needs to change soon. The attitudes and actions of people need to change, including those of corporations. Corporations are solely responsibly for much of this mess. They're also responsible for telling the American people materialism=happiness. The question is, will we change?

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Americans are referred to As Consumers
Posted by: Shankari46 on Dec 29, 2008 12:44 PM   
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We are also encouraged to go on buying sprees for the good of the nation and heaven forbid if "consumer confidence" goes down. That means you are not buying enough. What happens is Joe American stupid goes to Wal-Mart and buys a bunch of stuff on credit. That money goes mostly to billionaire boss Sam Walton and a little goes to China and the poor employees. Reality has to be faced in that the government uses people to buy, buy, buy, and the mortgage companies counted on stupid people to get mortgages that should have been illegal.
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Let's try something more achievable
Posted by: scurvybro on Dec 29, 2008 2:19 PM   
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America stop being stupid?

That's like asking America to stop being located between Canada and Mexico.

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Stop being stupid?
Posted by: chomsky on Dec 29, 2008 3:32 PM   
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Well I would say stop imposing self ignorance and stupidity. In other words grow up and think for yourself. And don’t take the New York as gospel. The only true free media is the internet and not just from Alternet. All sides contain truth and lies.

As for the US government stop with the wars, coup-detat, proxy wars, false flags, support of terrorism, war on drugs, war on poverty, war on men, war on third world, support of tyrants, and sponsoring of US "democracy" abroad.

Same goes for the EU.

The current financial crises does not destroy real wealth just moves it around into corrupt hands. Think of it as a wealth grab.

The article mentions sustainability and yet does not actually discuss the economy, which is not uncommon for BS articles. Tell me how an economy can be sustainable when it relies on debt for growth? Should it ever stop, the economy collapses. The economy is sustained by mass ignorance and greed. The only way I see it would stop is either through war or when the whole world is consumed by one giant fugly corporation.


BTW: Stop blaming Bush, the guy is an idiot. He is merely a scapegoat and the issue is more than just Bush and the Republicans.

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My mama used to say:
Posted by: willymack on Dec 29, 2008 6:00 PM   
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Don't be a jerk. One example of jerkiness is allowing the bush crime family to steal the presidency-TWICE. There's enough irrefutable evidence for fraud to make a convincing case against the bushies for the 2000 theft, and get several supreme court justices sacked as well. Wanna bet this'll happen?

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RE: Sticks and stones may break my bones
Posted by: sirios on Dec 29, 2008 6:19 PM   
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Honkie, your teenage tirade concerning mothers and oral sex was the single most offense and uncalled for comment ever posted on Alternet. The only interesting and revealing aspect of your retort was how aggressive your response was to being called stupid. I hope the staff at Alternet considers a permanent ban for such vile behavior.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on Dec 29, 2008 7:53 PM   
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How odd for the NYT to be writing this now ,Now that we have gone bankrupt with its help over the last few years. Dont believe anything you read in that publication. It is a mouthpiece for the ruling elite and it has an agenda --the agenda is to make us all feel guilty about the excesses and theft by the ruling elite and the Bush crime family.Dont buy into the poisonous pedagogy from the author.We are only stupid if we believe his junk.

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Some of us were just REALLY stupid
Posted by: yesman on Dec 29, 2008 10:56 PM   
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Sure, none of us are perfect and blameless, economically or otherwise. However, we should come to grips with the fact that all of the disasters that we are currently faced with can be primarily laid at the feet of one group: the Christian fundamentalist religious right. They are the ones who have consistently voted in the free-market ideological radicals because the Republicans were willing to create a "culture war" to get their votes. The scam worked beautifully. The fundamentalists have kept the Republicans in power to pursue their agenda of pillaging our country for the sake of the rich. And guess what? The rich crooks so far have been able not only to retain their ill-gotten gains, but to get massive additional handouts of taxpayer money--that is, money that you and I, and many future generations to come, will be paying, and paying, and paying.

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"Us" and "We"
Posted by: gar1948 on Dec 30, 2008 7:03 PM   
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Did you ever notice how some people use the words "us" and "we" when they are trying to spread the blame for their own stupidity, ignorance and short-sightedness?

I, as many others here on Alternet, have been opposed to the Bush administration, all their Neocon predecessors, and all their 'steal from the poor, give to the rich' policies for the last thirty years.

So don't include me in your sweeping generalizations of ignorance and stupidity.

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How can the U.S. avoid being stupid.......
Posted by: tap17x on Dec 30, 2008 8:51 PM   
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.........when the voters twice ALMOST elected an idiot to run, I mean ruin, the country? So long as most voters are political morons, they will elect worse than mediocre candidates. As usual, I blame mostly the Refucklicans for this. The MSM behaved terribly too.

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HOW MANY???
Posted by: reelman on Jan 2, 2009 12:00 PM   
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This goes along with one of my favorite sayings, "ignore what is said, watch what is done".
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COLUMBIA, S.C. -AP- U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett says he is donating his new congressional raise to an Anderson charity.

Barrett says he will donate the $4,700 salary increase that begins in 2009 to Anderson Interfaith Ministries - an organization of churches and individuals who provide assistance to the needy and helps them become self-sufficient.

Barrett says lawmakers should not be earning more during these poor economic times. He says he voted against the automatic pay raise and all increases should have to be voted on individually.

Barrett is beginning his fourth term in Congress. The Republican's district runs along the Savannah River in the northwestern corner of South Carolina.
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HOW MANY MULTIMILLIONAIRE DEMOCRATS WILL GIVE THEIR RAISE TO CHARITY? HOW MANY WILL "WALK THE WALK"?
YOU KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS THAT GIVE ONLY LIP SERVICE WHEN ITS THEIR MONEY AND LAY GUILT TRIPS ON EVERYONE...
so much for another liberal and libmedia lie (myth)...

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