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What Americans Really Want: 10 Policies We Can All Agree On
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President-elect Barack Obama faces huge challenges when he takes office. But he's got one asset that is rarely mentioned. Large majorities of Americans agree on some of the most important issues of the day, from health care to foreign policy. These "Ten Policies for a Better America" shows an agenda a majority supports -- whether we vote red, blue, or some other political color.
ECONOMY
- Repair and rebuild neglected bridges, railroads, schools, and other infrastructure, designing for climate change & a post-petroleum world.
- Extend unemployment insurance benefits.
- Provide tax relief to middle- and low-income families, and reinstate fair taxes on high-wealth individuals and corporate profits.
- Adopt the Employee Free Choice Act to increase opportunities to unionize.
67% Favor public works projects to create jobs.
55% Favor expanding unemployment benefits.
73% Say corporations don’t pay a fair share of taxes.
76% Support tax cuts for lower- and middle-income people.
71% Say unions help their members; 53% say unions help the economy in general.
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FAMILIES

- Make the minimum wage a “living wage” adequate to keep working families out of poverty.
- Provide everyone vacation and family leave.
- Provide gay and lesbian couples with the legal protections afforded to straight couples.
- Make bankruptcy and foreclosure laws protect families first, not predatory lenders.
80% Support increasing the federal minimum wage.
59% Favor guaranteeing two weeks or more of paid vacation.
75% Want to limit rate increases on adjustable-rate mortgages.
64% Are not confident that life for our children’s generation will be better than it has been for us.
65% Believe same-sex couples should be allowed to marry or form civil unions.
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CONSTITUTION
- Fully restore habeas corpus for all people in U.S. custody.
- Protect our right to privacy and freedom from warrantless search and seizure.
- Keep the internet free of corporate and government censorship and obstruction. Protect “net neutrality.”
- Restore the balance of power between the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.
70% Support restoring habeas corpus rights for detainees at Guantanamo.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Dec 13, 2008 12:09 AM
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Posted by: ahmlco on Dec 13, 2008 2:10 AM
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Of course, we want all of these things AND we also want to pay fewer taxes as well. Which, of course, conveniently sidestraps the question of just who is going to pay for all of these things?
The rich? The evil corporations? The goverment? Sure, they can pay for some of it, but sooner or later people need to realize that you can only demand so much bread and so many circuses before things start to fall apart.
Unionized Detroit is a prime example of what happens to businesses held hostage by union members voting for more, more, more, until eventually the golden goose is cooked. What good was voting yourself more pay and more benefits when the company becomes uncompetitive in the global market and goes bankrupt? Nice plan.
Most of the things mentioned in the article have a price tag attached. So before demanding that we do them, stop and ask yourself: are YOU willing to foot the bill? Not someone else. YOU.
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» Hey - these are the demands and we don't want to think about details!
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Posted by: Last Chance on Dec 13, 2008 5:29 AM
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Thus, I would add to her list the following --
1. Reduce the human population by guaranteeing to each and every woman the legally protected right to decide if and when to birth her children.
1. Recycle 100% of all waste and garbage. No more land fills, no more ocean dumping, reprocess all of it into other useful products.
3. Establish profit sharing as the guiding principle within all corporate enterprises. No more multi-million dollar salaries, bonuses and retirement packages, no more $30 an hour wage scales and huge pensions, but instead every employee receives an equal percentage of the real profits.
4. Encourage families everywhere to each acquire a small parcel of land to grow their own vegetables, study horticulture and trade with each other for mutual benefit, so if the money runs out they won't starve.
The guiding principle that I live by is from Dorothy Day -- "Live simply that others may simply live."
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Dec 13, 2008 5:56 AM
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After nearly 40 yrs of Corp rule, would it be possible to defeat a 'monarchy' again?
We have been the focus of direct and subversive attacks for decades.
How much has already been sold off to foreign 'inveestors', How much money are we in the hole to them? What 'collateral' was used? What promises were made in their Busines plan.
We'll hand you not only the American Economy, but it's entire Workforce (and it's 'Brain Bank')
Why did the financial world Take a shit..someone tried to cash in BIG, and Called the "marker". could it be the 'death threat Ransom note' was so quickly passed because it was not from 'Our' Investors but by Foreign lenders. Funny how since the bailout, My Credit card interest rates have unjustly increased, 'default' charges inceased by about 30% an dmy Min. payment has been doubled. Since we have alrady given them money..Why the double dipping in to our pockets. Replenishing empty coffers. What would happen if we were given the opportunity to take some of those retirment funds now? Purley a 'Promisary' Note? Their Gone Too aren't they?
So they catch the Madoff, this trend setter on wall Street, this 'go to ' guy for investing. Why wouldn't we assume that Others had followed his lead with this 'Ponzi' scheme. Madoff was the investor for Big investors, who wouldn't want to emulate him and his AMAZING returns for his customers, build their reputation to compete with his.you would think these Wall Street Gurus would have realized what he was doing, since they live & breath the stock market ticker. Why would they not ocme forward if they Knew what he was doing...Because they were doing it too. Now they are trying to Back fill the Evidence of Economic Treason. there are no 401K's, there are No Pension funds ,there are No annuity accounts- They robbed US blind, and are trying to suck whatever is left to cover the remaining debt. What's the 'default' conditions boys..The Chinese Own the Country? Are we really just trying to buy YOUR way out of an execution or Our way out of an Hostile takeover.
A year ago, I laughed when a friend said He'd take up arms WHEN the chinese invade, I'm not laughing now.
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» People Are Deluded by Media Hype
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» Healthy, see my post. Sarah is right but, focus is on empire
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» This is what we want and we want it now! Someone GIVE IT TO US!
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Posted by: amacd on Dec 13, 2008 7:53 AM
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I would add only two points:
1. Ralph Nader in his 2000 campaign was the first to recognize precisely what you are saying --- that the vast majority of Americans believed in all the issues he and the Greens were running on, or as he said in all of this famous 'city tours' attended by hundreds of thousands of average Americans, "We represent the 'majoritarian view' of the country --- which neither the Democrats nor the Republicans do."
2. All of these issues which the vast majority of average Americans believe in addressing, confronting, working together on, and solving are really symptoms of our common problems and sorrows, which are caused by exactly one and only one thing: EMPIRE!
This modern EMPIRE causing all the problems that plague Americans, America, and the whole world is a new-style guileful ruling-elite 'corporate financial Empire' hiding behind the facade of its two-party, 'Vichy' faux democracy sham government and 'Vichy' corporatist media ---- but which still uses the age-old deceit of all empires; of 'divide and conquer'.
The empire divides us by making all these problems appear to be different issues, and they conquer us by dividing us into the peace movement, the economic justice movement, the universal health care movement, the womens rights movement, the civil rights movement, the immigration movement, the anti-torture movement, etc. etc. etc. And by dividing us in this way, they HIDE the real problem --- EMPIRE, which is the root cause of all our sorrows.
Hannah Arendt understood this deceit of empire well in the era of the Nazi Empire when she warned, "Empire abroad (always) entails tyranny at home" --- along with domestic economic oppression, spying, torture, destruction of democracy, etc. etc. etc.
Sarah, you are precisely right that all average Americans (not actually in the tiny ruling-elite, nor working for them as shills) agree on all the issues that you documented, but it is also critical to our success not to be detoured and distracted by the dividing deceit of empire that continues to divide and conquer us by yapping about these problems as being different issues.
They are not separate, or different, or dividing issues --- the signal, singular and seminal cause of all is EMPIRE (just as it was for our fore fathers fighting the singular British Empire within their own land).
Everyone needs, as Dr. King said in his last year when he realized that empire was the common cause of racial discrimination, economic oppression, class war, AND the Vietnam war, "keep your eyes on the prize" --- and the prize is the same today: exposing, confronting, fighting, and excising empire from our land, and restoring our hard won democratic republic for all.
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Singular cause
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Posted by: TREEGUY on Dec 13, 2008 8:20 AM
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THrow your credit cards away
stop watching tv.
get real.
get out in the streets.
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» The Federal Income Tax is Constitutional. Stop with the Crackernomics. The 16th Amendment was Legit.
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Posted by: actionashley on Dec 13, 2008 8:47 AM
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I don't think enough attention is being paid to the potential horror that the card check act could mean for union workers. I encourage everyone to visit this website - it has a wealth of information about what the Card Check Act is, what it means for workers, a petition to sign to battle it and a video explaining it. Please check it out - http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/email/email4.cfm?id=178
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» Yeah, that's what we need
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» Chambers of Commerce are fascist tools (and liars)
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Posted by: jdmccalpin on Dec 13, 2008 8:50 AM
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The experience can be quite educational.
I found three incorrect links -- one simply misspelled and the other two badly munged, but fixable. Only one of the approximately 46 numbers presented was not directly traceable to the reported source, but even that number was very similar to reported values.
A larger number of statistics were clearly "cherry-picked" -- chosen from older polls when newer results are available from the same web site. It would take quite a while to go through all of these cases to decide if the quoted results could be considered deliberately misleading. On some issues -- for example "Was invading Iraq a mistake" -- there are many polls available from many dates with a fairly broad range of results.
As I looked through these sources, I kept thinking of Noam Chomsky and his insistence that *we* are the ones responsible for our democracy, and that *we* are the ones who need to understand the facts. I was also reminded of the recent interview with Bill O'Reilly on the Daily Show. The shouting match between O'Reilly and Jon Stewart over whether America is a "center right" or "center" or "center left" country was entertaining, but the sources pointed to by Sarah van Gelder's article contain a vast amount of real information that could be used in an honest discussion of the complexities of our nation.
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» The article is an ill thought out list of adolesent demands.
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Posted by: Liberty G on Dec 13, 2008 9:09 AM
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1. Health Insurance. Any "health care" plan under government sponsorship will only support and enrich the pharmaceutical and high tech medical industries. This is so because:
a. It will not cover inexpensive, less dangerous, and more effective alternative health care. (CAM). It will only provide medical treatment and testing - not true prevention and healing.
b. Those without the money for premium policies with lots of extras will wind up with "minimum" coverage that is virtually useless. Example - I wouldn't have Medicare Part B "coverage" if my sons didn't contribute to it - and I never use it anyway, because I can't afford the yearly deductible and the co-pays. These will be features of any gov. policy.
By the way, my greatest fear is mandatory "universal coverage" a la Hilary - translation - the government sends you a bill you can't pay for a "service" you may not want and can't afford.
2. Public Financing for Campaigns. Three problems here:
a. As we have seen in this & other elections, public money will never be enough to compete with the fat cats - or even with the far better small donor Internet campaign.
b. It is obscene that huge amounts of the money spent go to buy TV air time - that which was basically public property stolen from us so that moguls can get rich by selling it. If the candidates didn't have to pony up millions of dollars for buying back what should belong the public, they wouldn't have to sell themselves to the wealthy and corporate.
c. Public financing basically means we pay for the campaigns of those with whom we vehemently disagree.
My solutions would be to provide a certain amount of money for health care chosen by the citizen, and to take back the airwaves for election purposes as needed.
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Dec 13, 2008 12:28 PM
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Are they offering, for example, single-payer, national health insurance?
ANY of them, aside from Conyers & the co-sponsors of his Medicare-for-all bill?
Are any of them promising to bring home the troops, close most of the bases, and stop throwing our weight around for corporate benefit?
Links, please. Document your answers - and we already know about Dennis Kucinich, and just how far he got in the "Democratic" primaries.
Doesn't this article mean that the DP is well to the right of the American people, and is therefore a right-wing, corporate-controlled party like the Republicans?
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Posted by: improperly_sedated on Dec 13, 2008 12:29 PM
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Americans are ready to join the world, but the government, in both Republican and Democratic manifestations, is an outlaw regime, commanding respect around the World by way of fear.
We did not want this. Our rulers wanted this.
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Posted by: ulyssesmsu on Dec 14, 2008 12:19 AM
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Show us where you got these figures and then we'll have something to talk about. Until then, these are NOT 10 policies that all Americans agree on.
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Posted by: slydad on Dec 15, 2008 12:27 AM
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So is Sarah van Gelder trying to backhandedly claim that if some of us don't wish for these things that we are un-American?
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» Hope Springs Eternal, BUT --
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Posted by: ahmlco on Dec 13, 2008 2:10 AM
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Of course, we want all of these things AND we also want to pay fewer taxes as well. Which, of course, conveniently sidestraps the question of just who is going to pay for all of these things?
The rich? The evil corporations? The goverment? Sure, they can pay for some of it, but sooner or later people need to realize that you can only demand so much bread and so many circuses before things start to fall apart.
Unionized Detroit is a prime example of what happens to businesses held hostage by union members voting for more, more, more, until eventually the golden goose is cooked. What good was voting yourself more pay and more benefits when the company becomes uncompetitive in the global market and goes bankrupt? Nice plan.
Most of the things mentioned in the article have a price tag attached. So before demanding that we do them, stop and ask yourself: are YOU willing to foot the bill? Not someone else. YOU.
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» Corporate fascism is not the answer.
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» Don't forget The Autobiography of Malcolm X and Plato's Republic
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» RE: Who is John Galt?
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» "'Atlas Shrugged' should be required reading in all US high schools."
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» Who is John Galt? Not today's CEO's.
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» Who pays? We all pay eventually.
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» RE: Who pays? We all pay eventually.
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» RE: Who pays? We all pay eventually.
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» RE: Who pays? We all pay eventually.
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» My family is of the sea/water...
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» You already pay through the nose for EMPIRE
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» Hey - these are the demands and we don't want to think about details!
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» Anit-Christian?
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Posted by: Last Chance on Dec 13, 2008 5:29 AM
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Thus, I would add to her list the following --
1. Reduce the human population by guaranteeing to each and every woman the legally protected right to decide if and when to birth her children.
1. Recycle 100% of all waste and garbage. No more land fills, no more ocean dumping, reprocess all of it into other useful products.
3. Establish profit sharing as the guiding principle within all corporate enterprises. No more multi-million dollar salaries, bonuses and retirement packages, no more $30 an hour wage scales and huge pensions, but instead every employee receives an equal percentage of the real profits.
4. Encourage families everywhere to each acquire a small parcel of land to grow their own vegetables, study horticulture and trade with each other for mutual benefit, so if the money runs out they won't starve.
The guiding principle that I live by is from Dorothy Day -- "Live simply that others may simply live."
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Dec 13, 2008 5:56 AM
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After nearly 40 yrs of Corp rule, would it be possible to defeat a 'monarchy' again?
We have been the focus of direct and subversive attacks for decades.
How much has already been sold off to foreign 'inveestors', How much money are we in the hole to them? What 'collateral' was used? What promises were made in their Busines plan.
We'll hand you not only the American Economy, but it's entire Workforce (and it's 'Brain Bank')
Why did the financial world Take a shit..someone tried to cash in BIG, and Called the "marker". could it be the 'death threat Ransom note' was so quickly passed because it was not from 'Our' Investors but by Foreign lenders. Funny how since the bailout, My Credit card interest rates have unjustly increased, 'default' charges inceased by about 30% an dmy Min. payment has been doubled. Since we have alrady given them money..Why the double dipping in to our pockets. Replenishing empty coffers. What would happen if we were given the opportunity to take some of those retirment funds now? Purley a 'Promisary' Note? Their Gone Too aren't they?
So they catch the Madoff, this trend setter on wall Street, this 'go to ' guy for investing. Why wouldn't we assume that Others had followed his lead with this 'Ponzi' scheme. Madoff was the investor for Big investors, who wouldn't want to emulate him and his AMAZING returns for his customers, build their reputation to compete with his.you would think these Wall Street Gurus would have realized what he was doing, since they live & breath the stock market ticker. Why would they not ocme forward if they Knew what he was doing...Because they were doing it too. Now they are trying to Back fill the Evidence of Economic Treason. there are no 401K's, there are No Pension funds ,there are No annuity accounts- They robbed US blind, and are trying to suck whatever is left to cover the remaining debt. What's the 'default' conditions boys..The Chinese Own the Country? Are we really just trying to buy YOUR way out of an execution or Our way out of an Hostile takeover.
A year ago, I laughed when a friend said He'd take up arms WHEN the chinese invade, I'm not laughing now.
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» People Are Deluded by Media Hype
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Posted by: Carol Burns on Dec 13, 2008 7:27 AM
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» Healthy, see my post. Sarah is right but, focus is on empire
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» This is what we want and we want it now! Someone GIVE IT TO US!
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Posted by: amacd on Dec 13, 2008 7:53 AM
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I would add only two points:
1. Ralph Nader in his 2000 campaign was the first to recognize precisely what you are saying --- that the vast majority of Americans believed in all the issues he and the Greens were running on, or as he said in all of this famous 'city tours' attended by hundreds of thousands of average Americans, "We represent the 'majoritarian view' of the country --- which neither the Democrats nor the Republicans do."
2. All of these issues which the vast majority of average Americans believe in addressing, confronting, working together on, and solving are really symptoms of our common problems and sorrows, which are caused by exactly one and only one thing: EMPIRE!
This modern EMPIRE causing all the problems that plague Americans, America, and the whole world is a new-style guileful ruling-elite 'corporate financial Empire' hiding behind the facade of its two-party, 'Vichy' faux democracy sham government and 'Vichy' corporatist media ---- but which still uses the age-old deceit of all empires; of 'divide and conquer'.
The empire divides us by making all these problems appear to be different issues, and they conquer us by dividing us into the peace movement, the economic justice movement, the universal health care movement, the womens rights movement, the civil rights movement, the immigration movement, the anti-torture movement, etc. etc. etc. And by dividing us in this way, they HIDE the real problem --- EMPIRE, which is the root cause of all our sorrows.
Hannah Arendt understood this deceit of empire well in the era of the Nazi Empire when she warned, "Empire abroad (always) entails tyranny at home" --- along with domestic economic oppression, spying, torture, destruction of democracy, etc. etc. etc.
Sarah, you are precisely right that all average Americans (not actually in the tiny ruling-elite, nor working for them as shills) agree on all the issues that you documented, but it is also critical to our success not to be detoured and distracted by the dividing deceit of empire that continues to divide and conquer us by yapping about these problems as being different issues.
They are not separate, or different, or dividing issues --- the signal, singular and seminal cause of all is EMPIRE (just as it was for our fore fathers fighting the singular British Empire within their own land).
Everyone needs, as Dr. King said in his last year when he realized that empire was the common cause of racial discrimination, economic oppression, class war, AND the Vietnam war, "keep your eyes on the prize" --- and the prize is the same today: exposing, confronting, fighting, and excising empire from our land, and restoring our hard won democratic republic for all.
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» Divide & Conquer IS and has ALWAYS been the NWO Agenda
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Singular cause
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Posted by: TREEGUY on Dec 13, 2008 8:20 AM
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THrow your credit cards away
stop watching tv.
get real.
get out in the streets.
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» The Federal Income Tax is Constitutional. Stop with the Crackernomics. The 16th Amendment was Legit.
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Posted by: actionashley on Dec 13, 2008 8:47 AM
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I don't think enough attention is being paid to the potential horror that the card check act could mean for union workers. I encourage everyone to visit this website - it has a wealth of information about what the Card Check Act is, what it means for workers, a petition to sign to battle it and a video explaining it. Please check it out - http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/email/email4.cfm?id=178
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» Yeah, that's what we need
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» Chambers of Commerce are fascist tools (and liars)
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Posted by: jdmccalpin on Dec 13, 2008 8:50 AM
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The experience can be quite educational.
I found three incorrect links -- one simply misspelled and the other two badly munged, but fixable. Only one of the approximately 46 numbers presented was not directly traceable to the reported source, but even that number was very similar to reported values.
A larger number of statistics were clearly "cherry-picked" -- chosen from older polls when newer results are available from the same web site. It would take quite a while to go through all of these cases to decide if the quoted results could be considered deliberately misleading. On some issues -- for example "Was invading Iraq a mistake" -- there are many polls available from many dates with a fairly broad range of results.
As I looked through these sources, I kept thinking of Noam Chomsky and his insistence that *we* are the ones responsible for our democracy, and that *we* are the ones who need to understand the facts. I was also reminded of the recent interview with Bill O'Reilly on the Daily Show. The shouting match between O'Reilly and Jon Stewart over whether America is a "center right" or "center" or "center left" country was entertaining, but the sources pointed to by Sarah van Gelder's article contain a vast amount of real information that could be used in an honest discussion of the complexities of our nation.
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» The article is an ill thought out list of adolesent demands.
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» oh by all means
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» links fixed
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Posted by: Liberty G on Dec 13, 2008 9:09 AM
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1. Health Insurance. Any "health care" plan under government sponsorship will only support and enrich the pharmaceutical and high tech medical industries. This is so because:
a. It will not cover inexpensive, less dangerous, and more effective alternative health care. (CAM). It will only provide medical treatment and testing - not true prevention and healing.
b. Those without the money for premium policies with lots of extras will wind up with "minimum" coverage that is virtually useless. Example - I wouldn't have Medicare Part B "coverage" if my sons didn't contribute to it - and I never use it anyway, because I can't afford the yearly deductible and the co-pays. These will be features of any gov. policy.
By the way, my greatest fear is mandatory "universal coverage" a la Hilary - translation - the government sends you a bill you can't pay for a "service" you may not want and can't afford.
2. Public Financing for Campaigns. Three problems here:
a. As we have seen in this & other elections, public money will never be enough to compete with the fat cats - or even with the far better small donor Internet campaign.
b. It is obscene that huge amounts of the money spent go to buy TV air time - that which was basically public property stolen from us so that moguls can get rich by selling it. If the candidates didn't have to pony up millions of dollars for buying back what should belong the public, they wouldn't have to sell themselves to the wealthy and corporate.
c. Public financing basically means we pay for the campaigns of those with whom we vehemently disagree.
My solutions would be to provide a certain amount of money for health care chosen by the citizen, and to take back the airwaves for election purposes as needed.
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Posted by: oregoncharles on Dec 13, 2008 12:28 PM
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Are they offering, for example, single-payer, national health insurance?
ANY of them, aside from Conyers & the co-sponsors of his Medicare-for-all bill?
Are any of them promising to bring home the troops, close most of the bases, and stop throwing our weight around for corporate benefit?
Links, please. Document your answers - and we already know about Dennis Kucinich, and just how far he got in the "Democratic" primaries.
Doesn't this article mean that the DP is well to the right of the American people, and is therefore a right-wing, corporate-controlled party like the Republicans?
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» RE: Sounds pretty Green to me!
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Posted by: improperly_sedated on Dec 13, 2008 12:29 PM
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Americans are ready to join the world, but the government, in both Republican and Democratic manifestations, is an outlaw regime, commanding respect around the World by way of fear.
We did not want this. Our rulers wanted this.
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Posted by: ulyssesmsu on Dec 14, 2008 12:19 AM
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Show us where you got these figures and then we'll have something to talk about. Until then, these are NOT 10 policies that all Americans agree on.
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Posted by: slydad on Dec 15, 2008 12:27 AM
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So is Sarah van Gelder trying to backhandedly claim that if some of us don't wish for these things that we are un-American?
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