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Attacking Alzheimer's with Red Wine and Marijuana

By Tom Jacobs, Miller-McCune.com. Posted December 8, 2008.


Two new studies point to a wonderful way to ward off Alzheimer's disease and other forms of age-related memory loss.

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Two new studies suggest that substances usually associated with dulling the mind -- marijuana and red wine -- may help ward off Alzheimer's disease and other forms of age-related memory loss. Their addition comes as another study dethrones folk remedy ginkgo biloba as proof against the disease.

At a November meeting of the Society of Neuroscience in Washington, D.C., researchers from Ohio State University reported that THC, the main psychoactive substance in the cannabis plant, may reduce inflammation in the brain and even stimulate the formation of new brain cells.

Meanwhile, in the Nov. 21 issue of the Journal of Biological Chemistry, neurologist David Teplow of the University of California, Los Angeles reported that polyphenols -- naturally occurring components of red wine -- block the formation of proteins that build the toxic plaques thought to destroy brain cells. In addition, these substances can reduce the toxicity of existing plaques, thus reducing cognitive deterioration.

Together, the studies suggest scientists are gaining a clearer understanding of the mechanics of memory deterioration and discovering some promising approaches to prevention.

Previous research has suggested that polyphenols -- which are found in high concentrations in tea, nuts and berries, as well as cabernets and merlots -- may inhibit or prevent the buildup of toxic fibers in the brain. These fibers, which are primarily composed of two specific proteins, form the plaques that have long been associated with Alzheimer's disease.

UCLA's Teplow and his colleagues monitored how these proteins folded up and stuck to each other to produce aggregates that killed nerve cells in mice. They then treated the proteins with a polyphenol compound extracted from grape seeds. They discovered the polyphenols blocked the formation of the toxic aggregates.

"What we found is pretty straightforward," Teplow declared. "If the amyloid beta proteins can't assemble, toxic aggregates can't form, and, thus, there is no toxicity." If this also proves true in human brains, it means administration of the compound to Alzheimer's patients could "prevent disease development and also ameliorate existing disease," he said. Human clinical trials are upcoming.

At Ohio State, researchers led by psychologist Gary Wenk are studying the protective effects of tetrahydrocannabinol, commonly known as THC. They found that administering a THC-like synthetic drug to older rats performed better at a memory test than a control group of non-medicated elderly rodents.

In some of the rats, the drug apparently lowered inflammation in the hippocampus -- the region of the brain responsible for short-term memory. It also seems to have stimulated the generation of new brain cells.

"When we're young, we reproduce neurons and our memory works fine," said co-author Yannick Marchalant, another Ohio State psychologist. "When we age, the process slows down, so we have a decrease in new cell formation in normal aging. You need those cells to come back and help form new memories, and we found that this THC-like agent can influence creation of those cells."

Wenk added two cautionary notes to his report. First, to be effective, any such treatment along these lines would have to take place before memory loss is obvious. Second, the researchers still have much work to do.

"We need to find exactly which receptors are most crucial" to the generation of new brain cells, he said. This discovery would "ideally lead to the development of drugs that specifically activate those receptors."

In the meantime, should aging baby boomers who are worried about old-age mental impairment light up a joint? Wenk was cautious in his answer, no doubt because marijuana is suspected to be harmful to health in other ways.

"Could people smoke marijuana to prevent Alzheimer's disease if the disease is in the family? We're not saying that, but it might actually work," he said. "What we are saying is it appears that a safe, legal substance the mimics those important properties of marijuana can work on receptors in the brain to prevent memory impairments in aging. So that's really hopeful."


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Tom Jacobs is a veteran journalist with more than 20 years experience at daily newspapers. He has served as a staff writer for the Los Angeles Daily News and the Santa Barbara News-Press. His work has also appeared in the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune and Ventura County Star.

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Red better than meds?
Posted by: YogiBear on Dec 8, 2008 12:13 AM   
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I clearly remember my grandfather, who died from alzheimers, losing it at the care center home by yelling over and over "I want red wine, I want red wine!" Wine was prohibited once he was put on meds.

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» Sure !! Posted by: baldo
Well, neither of these substances must work on me
Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Dec 8, 2008 1:50 AM   
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, though not from lack of trying. I still can't remember why either of them were ever made illegal LOL.

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Marijuana yes, red wine maybe
Posted by: minmotstand on Dec 8, 2008 2:34 AM   
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Cannabinoid receptors are shown to be very important in neurological disease, and marijuana was able to reduce many of the adverse neuronal changes seen in the brain.

For instance, it reduces the accumulation of amyloid-beta in the brain, which becomes toxic in excess and is believed by researchers to be the causative protein of Alzheimer's Disease.


However, red wine and other wines from Europe were recently tested, and a large number of heavy metals were highly elevated in these wines. Many of the metals have been associated with the disease, so they may actually worsen it.

Make sure your wine is free of toxins and neurotoxins!

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» RE: I thought alcohol was supposed to ... Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon
» Kitty Killjoy! Posted by: harryf200
» How much? Posted by: suprmark
Marijuana a powerful antioxidant, anti-inflammatory
Posted by: minmotstand on Dec 8, 2008 2:37 AM   
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Forgot to mention that marijuana is one of the most powerful antioxidants around, and may help stop or repair the cell damage seen in the brain.

It is also a powerful anti-inflammatory, and in recent years inflammation has been shown to be very important in regards with chronic disease, including neurological disorders such as Alzheimer's Disease.

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» On the whole, I am with you, but... Posted by: improperly_sedated
» RE: tolerance Posted by: Lauren
» Actually, tolerance DEcreases Posted by: JSurveyor
» you don't like it? Posted by: goatini
Excellent info, minmotstand.
Posted by: Squarehead on Dec 8, 2008 2:59 AM   
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Excellent info, minmotstand.

Let me question you further on the issue of toxicity and European wines. My impression, as an enthusiastic drinker (& toker), is that French, Spanish, Italian wines (in that order) are best, at least for reds. For white, I would include New Zealand, and have tasted an excellent Argentinian white.

In my dismissal of anything from Australia, and to a lesser extent, from USA, I am responding to the synthetic tastes of those wines, owing more to the industrial chemist than to the farmer.

"However, red wine and other wines from Europe were recently tested, and a large number of heavy metals were highly elevated in these wines. Many of the metals have been associated with the disease, so they may actually worsen it.

Make sure your wine is free of toxins and neurotoxins!"


Please, can you provide more information on heavy metal contamination, and its route into that food chain? My experience includes that the response of one's system to toxicity (a brutal hangover) is more obvious with these synthetic 'beefed up' tasting Australians. The better the wine quality (not precisely guided by cost), the less the hangover

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» RE: xcellent info, minmotstand. Posted by: minmotstand
» RE: Excellent info, minmotstand. Posted by: Squarehead
» RE: xcellent info, minmotstand. Posted by: minmotstand
Oh, wow.
Posted by: Longdream on Dec 8, 2008 3:49 AM   
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I've been putting this fervent wish into the cosmos for twenty years:

~pleaseletpotcurecancerpleaseletpotcurecancer pleaseletpotcurecancer~

So we got Alzheimer's! I love it! And red wine! Well, it does not get better than this!

*clink*

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» RE: Oh, wow. Posted by: shanaza
» RE: Oh, wow. Posted by: Squarehead
when it comes in a little pill
Posted by: aislinnluv on Dec 8, 2008 4:13 AM   
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i used to be a regular toker (many years ago) and i'm pretty sure i won't be going back there. i can't handle the paranoia it entails (and i feel somewhat certain that it isn't purely the illegality that causes this - i think it is a side effect). i do take a resveratrol cap every day, and i'd be glad to add a thc cap to that. the second scariest thing to me about aging (after fear of ending up under an overpass with a cardboard sign) is losing my mental faculties. if red wine and pot will help, i guess i'll have to resign myself to a slower lifestyle (wow- look at my hands...)

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» It's not just the drug Posted by: scared
» RE: when it comes in a little pill Posted by: augustiswest
My Wife Wants To Know
Posted by: Skelly on Dec 8, 2008 4:37 AM   
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If smoking weed and drinking red wine will keep me from losing my memory, why is it I can never remember where I left my wallet?

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» RE: My Wife Wants To Know Posted by: minmotstand
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Somebody Is Lying
Posted by: Last Chance on Dec 8, 2008 5:03 AM   
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Alcohol destroys brain cells and both pot and booze destroy short term memory, that's the whole idea, to shut out the day's oppressive events! Then each abuser wants to believe every day their "medicine" will make them "well". Self-deception is part of the chemical addiction or emotional dependency.

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Yeah, and Mercury in Vaccines makes kids smarter
Posted by: salt-of-the-earth on Dec 8, 2008 5:11 AM   
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I actually heard a news story in the MSM that said this.

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"Dulls the Mind"?!
Posted by: jmmartin on Dec 8, 2008 5:11 AM   
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While I am thrilled to hear that marijuana may ward off the dreaded A disease, I am dumbfounded the writer would classify the weed with wine as substances that "dull the mind." Alcohol does that, I agree, but not pot. Marijuana is stimulating. Marijuana does not dull the mind, it opens it. You make it out to be a depressant, which of course alcohol is, but not marijuana.

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» RE: "Dulls the Mind"?! Posted by: socialpsych
» RE: blood sugar levels Posted by: Lauren
» blood sugar levels? Posted by: yidokie
» RE: blood sugar levels? Posted by: Lauren
An Old Itailan woman could have told you about Red Wine!!!
Posted by: Purple Girl on Dec 8, 2008 5:25 AM   
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My grandmother always said 'Red wine is good for your blood'.although she was Young when Pot got put on the Illegal substance list, she never mentioned having tried it or what curative effects it could ahve...maybe she knew but dared not mention it.
I gotta ask How much money did we spend on a Question we could have answered for free, had we just asked an old Italian about red wine?
Of course that has been the result of male domination in science...disregard the Old Wives Tales and proceed to spend millions to utlimately prove their right.
I'm chalking this Scientific Acheivement up to Another for the Ladies,along with the 'revelation' Chicken soup is good for you when suffering a cold. Next will come the Billion dollar Research finding that Hot tea with Honey and a splash of whiskey is good for a sore throat too.
Waht is most Ridiculous about these 'research' Grants and findings is the Fact that even if you use these Old Traditional methods, they can not make matters worse. it's not as if a Glass of wine will kill You, nor chicken soup , nor a splash of whiskey as needed. What I wonder is Why bother to investigate these ancient claims, unless to debunk them (and make money doing it).
If you know anything about the Evolution of the Meidcal professsion, You will know it has had a Long standing hatred of Female 'wisedoms'. Probably why we are popping pills instead of taking herbs - they refuse to relinquish any control over medicine to either Females or Ancient remedies (ie Acupuncture),because they would lose money and be revealed as Snake Oil Dealers. 'Modern 'Medicine has been killing Us with their 'potions' for centuries. Seems better to cause a catastophic illness to mask a minor ailment. 'You may have a heart attack from this med, but your toenails will look great in the Coffin", "You may have a stoke, but that Boner will last for hours" .
No doubt our ancestors have been vindicated, but I'm still pissed by the long standing malignment and disrespect they have shown to those who have Always Known these things to be true...Not to mention the Taxpayer dollars Wasted on such BS research.

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» Reminds me of Johnny Carson Posted by: dancingcloud
» RE: Anti-intellectual progressives?? Posted by: popeurbanxxiii
Nothing to worry about...
Posted by: gealwh on Dec 8, 2008 5:43 AM   
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I should be set for life then, considering all I did "back in the day".

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» RE: Nothing to worry about... Posted by: grammasanity
RE: xcellent
Posted by: Lauren on Dec 8, 2008 7:30 AM   
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No way! Drink cranberry, pomegranate, grape or berry juice for that dose of good health. Skip the wine, it is loaded with sulfites.

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» RE: xcellent Posted by: anneliese-nyc
RE: xcellent
Posted by: jennyqla on Dec 8, 2008 10:03 AM   
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Dude, don't drink any kind of alcohol right before bed -- it disrupts REM sleep in a major way. Have a glass after work or with a meal. If you need a late night wind-down take a toke and consider occasional use of the herb Valerian which helps induce deep REM sleep -- the most restful kind.

(I mean I know you're joking, but still:)

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so...get grannie wasted for xmas
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Dec 8, 2008 6:42 AM   
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so...get grannie wasted for xmas and see if she improves...

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If, Maybe, Perhaps
Posted by: kmarx on Dec 8, 2008 6:54 AM   
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I just wish it were so simple. Studies like this should not be publicized unless there is real powerful data. Every week there is some 'new' finding that could lead to cures to all the illnesses that STILL plague us. Nonsense like this only feeds the hunger for drinking and smoking dope.

Many studies today are mickey mouse as they are carried out by people who were allowed into PhD programs, medical schools, etc but were less than qualified to be there to begin with. Thank you affirmative action for today's mediocrity!

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helped my brain injury
Posted by: somegirl on Dec 8, 2008 7:12 AM   
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the only thing that has helped my traumatic brain injury is pot. none of my neurologists have had a problem with my using it either. now i don't know if it's actually building my brain up, but it sure helps with the extremely unpleasant symptoms when the brain gets overloaded and goes haywire. and i have improved immensely in the ten years since my accident.

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» RE: helped my brain injury Posted by: fanny666
» RE: helped my brain injury Posted by: Lauren
left unquestioned...
Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 8, 2008 7:33 AM   
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This was a good article on the health benefits of red wine and marijuana. However, left unquestioned is the implication that medical progress can be made by experimenting on other animals:

"In some of the rats, the drug apparently lowered inflammation in the hippocampus -- the region of the brain responsible for short-term memory. It also seems to have stimulated the generation of new brain cells."

According to America's leading animal rights organization, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), over 1.6 million strong:

"We know animal tests are poor science. Official figures show that an astonishing 92 percent of drugs tested on animals prove to be ineffective or unsafe for humans."

As renowned pathologist Dr Bruno Fedi points out:

"The abolition of vivisection would in no way halt medical progress, just the opposite is the case. .... No surgeon can gain the least knowledge from experiments on animals, and all the great surgeons of the past and of the present day are in agreement on that".

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» Peta is badly uninformed Posted by: fanny666
» How about PCRM? Posted by: aonghus36
» RE: How about PCRM? Posted by: fanny666
Due to pot assisting the formation of new brain cells
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Dec 8, 2008 8:20 AM   
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the fed pigs will put even more pressure on the lie of "reefer madness" because they are frightened of those with the ability to think.

And, how deeply is the alcohol industry behind keeping pot illegal for the financial benefit of keeping their booze legal?

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» Lauren Posted by: aonghus36
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» RE: Lauren Posted by: Lauren
funnel
Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Dec 8, 2008 8:49 AM   
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I think i will try this cure tonight with beer as a substitute

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Original review article
Posted by: fanny666 on Dec 8, 2008 9:01 AM   
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Marchalant Y, Brothers HM, Wenk GL. (2008). Inflammation and aging: can endocannabinoids help? Biomed Pharmacother. 62(4):212-7. Epub 2008 Mar 14.

I'm a neurobiologist; my area of specialization is the hippocampus. I have to say that there is a difference between harnessing the endocannabinoid system to counter excitotoxic and inflammatory effects of amyloid plaque buildup and telling your confused grandmother to take a bong hit. I talked a little bit about how endocannabinoids normally work HERE.

The anioxidant thing is similar. Small amount of red wine, great. But large amounts of alcohol are neurotoxic- especially to the hippocampus- and alcoholics actually can get a disease that is very similar to Alzheimer's, called Korsakoff's Syndrome. And even just enough to get drunk will cause swelling of the brain (that's what makes you have a headache the next day), and so small amounts are what the scientists are talking about. It's actually come out fairly recently that a spice called circumin has some of these same beneficial effects.

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» RE: Korsakoff's. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Korsakoff's. Posted by: fanny666
Alzheimer's is getting better all the time
Posted by: john2007 on Dec 8, 2008 9:02 AM   
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As an old hippie, I can attest to the fact that red wine and marijuana are two of God's most sublime creations and it is good to know they may still have a legitimate role to play in the twilight of our lives. However, both of these items cause definite memory loss when used to excess so it seems counter-intuitive that they should help ward off Alzheimer's. I guess I'll believe it when I see it. I hope it's true; my family knows this disease first hand. In the meantime I'll tell my wife that I am getting shit-faced on doctors' orders.

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vivisection is scientific fraud
Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 8, 2008 10:26 AM   
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Smoking was once thought non-carcinogenic because smoking-related cancer is hard to reproduce in lab animals. Many continued to smoke and to die from cancer. Benzene was not withdrawn from use as an industrial chemical despite clinical and epidemiological evidence that exposure caused leukemia in humans, because manufacturer-supported tests failed to reproduce leukemia in mice. Animal experiments on rats, hamsters, guinea pigs, mice, monkeys, and baboons revealed no link between glass fibers and cancer. Not until 1991, due to human studies, did the government label it carcinogenic.

Though arsenic was a known human carcinogen for decades, scientists still found little evidence in animals to support the conclusion as late as 1977. This was the accepted view until it was produced in lab animals. Many continued to be exposed to asbestos and die because scientists could not reproduce the cancer in lab animals.

Pacemakers and heart valves were delayed in development because of physiological differences between animals they were designed on and humans. Animal models of heart disease failed to show that a high cholesterol and high fat diet increases the risk of coronary artery disease. Instead of switching to a vegetarian or vegan diet to prevent the disease, people continued their lifestyles with a false sense of security. Patients received medications that were harmful and/or ineffective due to animal models of stroke.

Animal studies predicted that beta-blockers would not lower blood pressure. This withheld their development. Even animal experimenters admitted the failure of animal models of hypertension in this regard, but in the meantime, there were thousands more stroke victims.

Over half of the 198 new medications released between 1976 and 1985 were either withdrawn or relabeled secondary to severe unpredicted side effects. These side effects included complications like lethal dysrhythmias, heart attacks, kidney failure, seizures, respiratory arrest, liver failure, and stroke, among others. Flosint, an arthritis medication, was tested on rats, monkeys and dogs; all tolerated the medication well. In humans, however, it caused deaths.

Clioquinol, an antidiarrheal, passed tests in rats, cats, dogs and rabbits. It was pulled off the shelves all over the world in 1982 after it was found to cause blindness and paralysis in humans. Eraldin, a medication for heart disease, caused 23 deaths despite the fact that no harmful effects could be shown in animals. When introduced, scientists said it noted for the thoroughness of the toxicity studies on animals. It caused blindness and deaths in humans. Afterwards, scientists were unable to reproduce these results in animals.

Zomax, another arthritis drug, killed 14 people and caused many more to suffer. The dose of isoproterenol, a medication used to treat asthma, was worked out in animals. Unfortunately, it was much too toxic for humans. Thirty five hundred asthmatics died in Great Britain alone due to overdose. It is still difficult to reproduce these results in animals. Suprofen, an arthritis drug, was withdrawn from the market when patients suffered kidney toxicity. Prior to its release researchers had this to say about the animal tests: “...excellent safety profile. No ...cardiac, renal, or CNS [central nervous system] effects in any species.”

Cylert (pemoline), a medication used to treat Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder, caused liver failure in 13 children. Eleven either died or needed a liver transplant.

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vivisection is scientific fraud (cont'd)
Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 8, 2008 10:28 AM   
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The diet drug combination of fenfluramine and dexfenfluramine was linked to heart valve abnormalities and taken off the market although animal studies “had never revealed heart abnormalities.”

The diabetes medication troglitazone, better known as Rezulin, was tested on animals without significant problems, but caused liver damage in humans. The company admitted that at least one patient had died and another had to undergo a liver transplant as a result.

Despite the ineffectiveness of penicillin in his rabbits, Alexander Fleming used the antibiotic on a very sick patient since he had nothing else to try. Luckily, Fleming’s initial tests were not on guinea pigs or hamsters—it kills them.

Howard Florey, the Nobel Prize winner credited with co-discovering and manufacturing penicillin, stated:

“How fortunate we didn’t have these animal tests in the 1940s, for penicillin would probably never been granted a license, and possibly the whole field of antibiotics might never have been realized.”

The notoriously dangerous drugs thalidomide and DES were tested in animals and released. Tens of thousands suffered and died as a result. Animal experiments misinformed researchers about how rapidly HIV replicates. Based on this false information, patients did not receive prompt therapies and their lives were shortened.

Animal-based research delayed the development of the polio vaccine, according to Dr. Albert Sabin, its inventor. The first rabies and polio vaccines worked well on animals but crippled or killed the people who tried them. Researchers who work with animals have succumbed to illness and death due to exposure to diseases that though harmless to the animal host (such as Hepatitis-B), kill humans.

Time, funding, and resources devoted to animal experiments could have gone to human-based research. Clinical studies, in vitro research, autopsies, post-marketing drug surveillance, computer modeling, epidemiology, and genetic research pose no hazard to humans and provide accurate results. Importantly, animal experiments have exhausted resources that could have been dedicated to educating the public about health hazards and health maintenance, therein diminishing the incidence of diseases that require treatment. Vivisection is scientific fraud. Animal experimentation does not make sense. Human-based science prevents disease and creates valid therapies.

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Actual health benefits are no reason to make pot legal!
Posted by: Brodog486 on Dec 8, 2008 11:37 AM   
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The test of whether or not a drug is legal is not now, has never been, and more importantly, should not be, whether or not it is good for you. Aspirin causes deaths. Ibuprofen use can have negative outcomes for some people. Too much alcohol can kill you. But all of these drugs are legal.

If marijuana is legalized, its legalization should not be justified by its health benefits. Rather, it should be made legal because we respect responsible adults' rights to do what they want with their bodies and lives.

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Sorry, but there has to be a better way...
Posted by: dolgre on Dec 8, 2008 11:38 AM   
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If these substances REALLY are responsible for the protective action in the memory portion of the brain, then why do both my college age boys seem to have such BAD memories on their tests?

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tsk, tsk
Posted by: wormfarmer on Dec 8, 2008 12:06 PM   
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Quite a number of participants in this discussion are missing the point, ALL THINGS IN MODERATION! Just because some scientific studies make a very good point, doesn't mean that more is better. I don't drink, but I have a hit every night, I have no ill effects the following morning, and sleep quite well, thank you.

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» RE: tsk, tsk Posted by: peskyfly1
Yeah right...
Posted by: tony12000 on Dec 8, 2008 12:17 PM   
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This only works because after all the booze and pot, you won't have any memories to forget by the time you reach the average age when Alzheimer's begins. This is nothing but wishful thinking.

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Fluoride and aluminum cause Alzheimer's
Posted by: isoptera@mchsi.com on Dec 8, 2008 1:00 PM   
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If you are serious about getting rid of Alzheimer’s, get rid of two poisons, which synergistically cause Alzheimer’s. That is aluminum in baking powder, etc. and fluoride in drinking water and on grapes, etc. See http://charles_w.tripod.com/fluoride.html

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Good Articles, Could Have Been Great
Posted by: Duncable on Dec 8, 2008 1:51 PM   
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"What we are saying is it appears that a safe, legal substance the mimics those important properties of marijuana can work on receptors in the brain to prevent memory impairments in aging. So that's really hopeful.

They just had to go there, didn't they? I always get excited when I read articles that seem to be objective and realistic in their approach to "drugs" like marijuana, but then they have to ruin it all by perpetuating the myth that weed is bad for you in some way. There was another quote someone in there about using this research to develop new, synthetic drugs instead of sticking with what Mother Nature provided us! It blows my mind! But hey, Big Pharma's gotta make that money somehow, how better than to exploit the sick?

Oh, and notice how they sneak in that marijuana is illegal, so they need to synthesize TCH for it to be useful on a large scale. I've got an idea!! Legalize it!! (Legalize It...Don't Criticize It...Legal It, Yeah...yeah...and I, man, will advertise it!)

Interesting article, none the less, I'm so tired of hearing people speculate on marijuana's dangerous effects, considering no one can come up with any real evidence to back their assertions up!

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MARIJUANA IS GREAT FOR LOTS OF PROBLEMS
Posted by: jerrysjingles on Dec 8, 2008 3:52 PM   
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..MIGRAINE HEADACHES and GLAUCOMA. I have suffered from Migraines most of my life. All the pills I've taken have done very little. But if I smoke even a small joint, the awful pain becomes tolerable..GLAUCOMA runs in my famiily. It's inherited.My grandfather and two of my mother's sisters went blind..About 15 years ago I was told by an ophthomalogist that smoking grass on a regular basis is the best preventive medicine there is. At age 66, I'm still clear of any signs of the disease! Ilene

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» RE: MARIJUANA IS GREAT FOR LOTS OF PROBLEMS Posted by: Honkie the Nihilist
EAT IT
Posted by: americansheep on Dec 8, 2008 6:41 PM   
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For those who don't want to suck smoke into their lungs, EAT YOUR POT. Simple and groovy answer to the "bad for your health" claims. As for memory loss... it's only a loss of idiotic memories of the routine everyday robotic controlled life in a web of misinformation that is forgotten, but only temporarily. One can forget all the unnecessary crap as the honed mind freely trips the light fantastic. A year or so ago a British study was published which reorganized the list of drug perils. Their new rating listed illegal marijuana and LSD LESS HARMFUL than legal alcohol and tobacco. For some reason it is getting ignored. The crime is in not being able to grow and use this medicinal plant legally in this insane #1 society.

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Did anyone actually read the abstract?
Posted by: Acme_Rocket on Dec 8, 2008 6:56 PM   
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Times like this I wish I had a subscription to scientific journals (they're not cheap). After reading the abstract the substance in question they were testing was grape seed polyphenolic extract, MegaNatural-AZ. I'm not even too sure what that is, yet alone how it differs from red wine in its chemical composition.
The only thing that we can rationally take away from this paper is that both red wine and this extract both have polyphenols (concentrations not reported). This chemical inhibits the formation of certain protein complexes found in Alzheimer patients.
Even if this extract is as effective as the paper claims, it still needs to be delivered to patients effectively in order to be a potent therapy. Brain injections? Still it's something to follow. We need some medicinal chemists out there working on neuron targeting small molecule anti-oxidants.

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Junk science?
Posted by: Joni50 on Dec 8, 2008 7:02 PM   
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UCLA's Teplow and his colleagues monitored how these proteins folded up and stuck to each other to produce aggregates that killed nerve cells in mice. They then treated the proteins with a polyphenol compound extracted from grape seeds. They discovered the polyphenols blocked the formation of the toxic aggregates.

"What we found is pretty straightforward," Teplow declared. "If the amyloid beta proteins can't assemble, toxic aggregates can't form, and, thus, there is no toxicity." If this also proves true in human brains, it means administration of the compound to Alzheimer's patients could "prevent disease development and also ameliorate existing disease," he said. Human clinical trials are upcoming.


How were these tests done? In vitro (test tubes), on rats, on "higher" mammals? How was the polyphenol administered? Does it cross the blood/ brain barrier? How many samples were tested, and how? What was the p-value? So many questions...

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More junk science?
Posted by: Joni50 on Dec 8, 2008 7:08 PM   
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At Ohio State, researchers led by psychologist Gary Wenk are studying the protective effects of tetrahydrocannabinol, commonly known as THC. They found that administering a THC-like synthetic drug to older rats performed better at a memory test than a control group of non-medicated elderly rodents.

In some of the rats, the drug apparently lowered inflammation in the hippocampus -- the region of the brain responsible for short-term memory. It also seems to have stimulated the generation of new brain cells.

"When we're young, we reproduce neurons and our memory works fine," said co-author Yannick Marchalant, another Ohio State psychologist. "When we age, the process slows down, so we have a decrease in new cell formation in normal aging. You need those cells to come back and help form new memories, and we found that this THC-like agent can influence creation of those cells."


A synthetic THC-like compound was administered - how? Injected? Mixed with the food? Vaporized and mixed with the air? What was the control? How many samples were tested? And how applicapble is this to humans? Rats and humans are very different. Do rats get Alzheimers'? What kind of memory was tested, systemic, perceptual? Again, how does this apply to humans?

I agree, marijuana has some good uses and should be legalized. But junk science doesn't help; it only muddies the issues and discredits the authentic.

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» RE: More junk science? Posted by: Acme_Rocket
It's worth a try.
Posted by: ronnalah on Dec 8, 2008 7:49 PM   
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I think the red wine and the marijuana are for the caregivers.

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legalize medical marijuana
Posted by: vasumurti on Dec 8, 2008 9:40 PM   
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A pamphlet entitled "10 Things Every Parent, Teenager and Teacher Should Know About Marijuana" produced by the Family Council on Drug Awareness tells us marijuana is not physically addictive. The 1980 Costa Rican study, the 1975 Jamaican study and the 1972 Nixon Blue Ribbon Report all concluded that marijuana use does not lead to physical dependency.

The FBI reports that 65 to 75 percent of criminal violence is alcohol-related. On the other hand, Federal Bureau of Narcotics director Harry Anslinger testified before Congress in 1948 that marijuana leads to nonviolence and pacifism.

In a message to Congress on August 2, 1977, President Jimmy Carter insisted: "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself."

Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Law Judge Francis L. Young wrote on September 8, 1988: "Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

After years of suppression by the government, the truth about medical marijuana is finally coming out. Dr. Tod Mikuriya, former director of marijuana research for the entire federal government, wrote in 1996: "I was hired by the government to provide scientific evidence that marijuana was harmful. As I studied the subject, I began to realize that marijuana was once widely used as a safe and effective medicine. But the government had a different agenda, and I had to resign."

Of all the reasons to legalize marijuana, the most compelling is its medical usage. Marijuana has a wide variety of therapeutic applications, and is frequently helpful in treating the following conditions:

AIDS. Marijuana reduces the nausea, vomiting, and loss of appetite caused by both the ailment itself and as a side effect of treatment with AZT and other medicines.

Arthritis and Other Autoimmune Diseases. In addition to its effectiveness in controlling the pain associated with arthritis, new evidence shows that marijuana is an autoimmune modulator.

Cancer. Marijuana stimulates the appetite and alleviates nausea and vomiting, common side effects of chemotherapy treatment. People undergoing chemotherapy find that smoking marijuana is an anti-nauseant often more effective than mainstream medications.

Epilepsy. Marijuana is used as an adjunctive medicine to prevent epileptic seizures. Some patients find that they can reduce dosage of other seizure-control medications while using cannabis.

Glaucoma. Marijuana can reduce intraocular pressure, alleviating pain and slowing (and sometimes stopping) the progress of the condition.

Tobacco kills about 430,700 each year. Alcohol and alcohol-related diseases and injuries kill about 110,000 per year. Secondhand tobacco smoke kills about 50,000 every year. Aspirin and other anti-inflammatory drugs kill 7,600 each year. Cocaine kills about 500 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Heroin kills about 400 yearly alone, and another 2,500 in combination with another drug. Adverse reactions to prescription drugs total 32,000 per year, while marijuana kills no one.

A November 4, 2002 Time/CNN Poll found 80 percent of those polled felt marijuana should be legal only for medicinal purposes. 72 percent felt recreational users should get fines rather than jail time, which is essentially decriminalization. The complete legalization of marijuana was favored only by 34 percent of respondents, but this figure is twice as large as it was in 1986.

Marijuana is safer than alcohol and tobacco, and our drug laws should reflect this reality.

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CONSIDER ALL OF THE MEDICAL CATAGORIES. WHY ARE WE ALWAYS FROM 17TH TO 27TH
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Dec 8, 2008 9:59 PM   
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place in the world? Statistically we usually link up with some third world country. Its not from red wine and cannabis. The wine drinkers in Europe all out live us. Italian women are often heavy. They still outlive us. Much of Asia has used cannabis for 100s of years. It hasn't been traced to their death. There is still an awful lot of myth in all of this. But, the state of longevity in the United States is not in question. If you would live longer, simply move to Canada. There is a reason why we are being rejected among the civilized nations. We aren't civilized.

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stigma
Posted by: cbishopp on Dec 9, 2008 12:33 AM   
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I, too, had a serious brain injury in my early twenties and I have smoked pot for relief from migranes and stress. I have always enjoyed the effects and felt that of all the things to take for pain and discomfort pot would be the least damaging in terms of cost and addiction. I have never had serious withdrawal from marijuana even when I stopped smoking for months at a time. I admit that it can be habitual though and the effects of smoking anything in great amounts will eventually take a toll on the lungs.
Regardless of my choice I am surrounded by people who feel that my use of this substance lies more in my inability to grow up or deal with the world.
Yet I go to work, pay my bills on time, read constantly, rarely play video games and lead a normal life. I know of many people who have sought standard western medications for illness (for problems with appetite, depression, stress, worry, fatigue, sleeplessness, etc.) and they often end up spending a fortune on highly addictive substances that are prescribed to them legally by a physician.
When will the stigma surrounding marijuana die off? How many people die each year from abuse or overdose of pain medications? Thousands.
An estimated 32,000 people each year from adverse reactions to prescription drugs.
In 1998 an extensive study published in the reputable Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) showed that 106,000 people die each year in American hospitals from medication side effects.
46% of Americans take at least one prescription drug daily.
The drug companies claim that they need large earnings - 125,835,595,000 in 1999 - to conduct their research and development. They have a point - only up to a degree. Aggressive research is indeed needed. The medications produced by the pharmaceutical industry have improved the quality and length of life of many people. But this justification loses credibility when:
1. Just 1 out of every 5 dollars the drug industry collects goes to drug research.
2. Some drug companies spend almost twice as much money for advertising and marketing as they spend for research.
3. Drug industry profits are so large they outstrip every other industry's profits by far.
Drug companies are the most profitable industry. In 2001, a year which saw a drop in employment rates, a plunge in the stock market and symbols of America's economy literally come crashing down, the drug companies continued their reign as the most profitable industry in the annual Fortune 500 list.
While the overall profits of Fortune 500 companies declined by 53%, which was the 2nd biggest dive in profits the Fortune 500 has taken in its 47 years, the top 10 U.S. drug companies increased their profits by 33%.
Collectively, the 10 drug companies in the Fortune 500 topped all 3 of the Fortune magazine's measures of company profitability for 2001, according to the magazine's annual analysis of America's most important companies.
These drug companies had the greatest return on revenues, reporting a profit of 18.5 cents for every $1 of sales, which was 8 times higher than the median for all Fortune 500 industries, easily surpassing the next most profitable industry, which was commercial banking with a 13.5% return on revenue).
I wonder how the stress of our present financial crisis will affect drug sales?

By the way, how many people have died from a marijuana overdose in all of history? ZERO.

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MJ could be found to cure ''all'' diseases...
Posted by: donl51 on Dec 9, 2008 10:36 PM   
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....and it'll still be illegal...big pharma would create ''as they already have'' an artificial THC...known as Marinol,I believe....all I know is that during my debilitatating chemo,the docs gave a dosage, to see if it would help,....[ I'd suggested MJ, they said they agreed but it's illegal ]the artificial is legal,you see, it's also very expensive, and my health Ins [ a real good one] wouldn't pick up the cost...leaving that part to me....and it knocked me out!...did it work?....well I felt no pain 'out cold'...did it help me w/an appetite like real pot does?...nope!...so did it work for me?...nope! so I ceased my radiation/chemo,..hoping the surgery had done the job....so far so good...2 years now!!....Fuck these bastards!

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The evidence just keeps on coming so why is it still illegal?
Posted by: Bearzerker on Dec 10, 2008 2:54 PM   
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more evidence but grass is still illegal...

as there are more professional papers coming out showing the medicinal necessity of Marijuana, the demand is not increasing nor decreasing but the criminal penalties placed on its consumption by people who still hope to have a say on what they can do to their own bodies... is on the rise... still!

more people are arrested and incarcerated now for pot then at anytime in history!

The politcals JUST DON'T GET IT!... they will obfuscate this reality by telling us that economic times are bad...
Is long past time for some serious legal challenges on religious and medicinal grounds

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THIS IS MY FAVORITE INFORMATION IN DAYS
Posted by: orwellturns on Dec 11, 2008 12:34 AM   
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I have my two glasses of red wine a night and often feel indulgent and not disciplined, now I think I'll just enjoy and not listen to reports that say if you drink every night you might have a problem.
In my hay days, I smoked pot daily and loved it, but as I got older and feeling that it took up too much of my time, because all I can do with it is listen to music and just hang around. For me it really did enlighten me personally, I was very, very shy and it mostly cured me from that.
I found it very creative too, that was probably from the stimulation of the brain cells and creating new neurons. I had to come up with new designs and art work and I used it to unwind and the ideas would just flow like water, but could never execute the work while still under the affect, only after. I mostly got paranoid from the thought of getting busted. I think marijuana has to be used judiciously and I did.
Never if you have a test, drive, and never to be with people that have not smoked and not if I want to read. NEVER FOR MINORS whose brains have to have no hallucinagens or impairment.

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Now that I am in my 50's...
Posted by: Gaubladt on Dec 12, 2008 5:15 PM   
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... I have noticed that I seem to forget that critical word that I need to convey an idea during conversations. If a little THC might correct that problem, I would be willing to give it a try, if it were legal...

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Yes and no.
Posted by: Zagreus221 on Dec 13, 2008 1:17 PM   
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The resveratrol found in red wine raises VEGF in small doses which is neuroprotective, however in large doses it lowers VEGF which is associated with AD (though lowering VEGF can be helpful to treat or prevent certain cancers). Cannabidinol certainly has some positive studies behind it backing claims of its neuroprotective properties. Nevertheless, if one really wants to protect against Alzheimer's disease, most of the research points towards HUPERZINE A, CURCUMIN, GREEN TEA, and yes GINKGO BILOBA (despite the recent study which found no effect on AD ~ there are still many other studies that show positive effects) as the most effective natural means of protection against the dreaded disease.

Ken, N.D.

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Mishma
Posted by: Mishma on Dec 14, 2008 8:26 AM   
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Bullshit. As much as I would like to believe that we've found the "fountains of youth," the fact remains that with most diseases the pathology is extremely complicated and not "amenable" to simple cures. One would think mankind had cured heart disease and cancer from reading grant proposals and articles in lay journals.

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Questionnable
Posted by: circanow on Dec 15, 2008 5:06 AM   
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This study is questionnable. There may be components that can be isolated from these substances that appear to inhibit some of the disease processes involved in Alzheimer's, but come on. Alcohol is a known neurotoxin, and marijuana certainly does not enhance memory! Ask any smoker. Smoking involves inhaling poison gases, and is hardly health-enhancing. Amotivational syndrome and even depression result from chronic pot smoking, and alcohol is a depressant as well, so that could create its own set of problems. There would be surely be no shortage of participants to sign up for human trials in this kind of study, though!

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