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Chomsky: Is There Truth in Obama's Advertising?

By Noam Chomsky, Democracy Now!. Posted November 28, 2008.


In a fascinating speech, Chomsky warns, "Changes and progress very rarely are gifts from above. They come out of struggles from below."

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Let's begin with the elections. The word that the rolls off of everyone's tongue is historic. Historic election. And I agree with it. It was a historic election. To have a black family in the white house is a momentous achievement. In fact, it's historic in a broader sense. The two Democratic candidates were an African-American and a woman. Both remarkable achievements. We go back say 40 years, it would have been unthinkable. So something's happened to the country in 40 years. And what's happened to the country --  which is we're not supposed to mention --  is that there was extensive and very constructive activism in the 1960s, which had an aftermath. So the feminist movement, mostly developed in the 70s -- the solidarity movements of the 80's and on till today. And the activism did civilize the country. The country's a lot more civilized than it was 40 years ago and the historic achievements illustrate it. That's also a lesson for what's next.

What's next will depend on whether the same thing happens. Changes and progress very rarely are gifts from above. They come out of struggles from below. And the answer to what's next depends on people like you. Nobody else can answer it. It's not predictable. In some ways, the election -- the election was surprising in some respects.

Going back to my bad prediction, If the financial crisis hadn't taken place at the moment that it did, if it had been delayed a couple of months, I suspect that prediction would have been correct. But not speculating, one thing surprising about the election was that it wasn't a landslide. By the usual criteria, you would expect the opposition party to win in a landslide under conditions like the ones that exist today. The incumbent president for eight years was so unpopular that his own party couldn't mention his name and had to pretend to be opposing his policies. He presided over the worst record for ordinary people in post-war history, in terms of job growth, real wealth and so on. Just about everything the administration was touched just turned into a disaster. [The] country has reached the lowest level of standing in the world that it's ever had. The economy was tanking. Several recessions are going on. Not just the ones on the front pages, the financial recession. There's also a recession in the real economy. The productive economy, under circumstances and people know it. So 80% of the population say that the country's going in the wrong direction. About 80% say the government doesn't work to the benefit of the people, it works for the few and the special interests. A startling 94% complain that the government doesn't pay any attention to the public will, and on like that. Under conditions like that, you would expect a landslide to a opposition almost whoever they are. And there wasn't one.

So one might ask why wasn't there a landslide? That goes off in an interesting direction. And other respects the outcome was pretty familiar. So once again, the election was essentially bought. 9 out of 10 of the victors outspent their opponents. Obama of course outspent McCain. If you look at the -- and we don't have final records yet from the final results, but they're probably going to be pretty much like the preliminaries a couple of months ago. Which showed that both Obama and McCain were getting the bulk of their financing from the financial institutions and for Obama, law firms which means essentially lobbyists. That was about over a third a few months ago. But the final results will probably be the same. And there is a -- the distribution of funding has over time been a pretty good predictor of what policies will be like for those of you who are interested, there's very good scholarly work on this by Tom Ferguson in Umass Boston, what he calls the investment theory of politics. Which argues essentially that elections are moments when groups of investors coalesce and invest to control the state and has quite the substantial predictive success. Gives some suggestion as to what's likely to happen. So that part's familiar. The -- what the future is as I say, depends on people like you.

The response for the election was interesting and instructive. It kept pretty much to the soaring rhetoric, to borrow the cliche, that was the major theme of the election. The election was described as an extraordinary display of democracy, a miracle that could only happen in America and on and on. Much more extreme than [what] Europe [could accomplish]. There's some accuracy in that if we keep to the West. That couldn't have happened anywhere else. Europe was much more racist than the United States and you wouldn't expect anything like that to happen.

On the other hand, if you look at the world, it's not that remarkable. So let's take the poorest countries in the Western Hemisphere. Haiti and Bolivia. In Haiti, there was an election in 1990 which really was an extraordinary display of democracy much more so than this.

In Haiti, there were grassroots movements, popular movements that developed in the slums and the hills, which nobody was paying any attention to. And they managed, even without any resources, to sweep into power their own candidate. A populist priest, Jean-Bertrand Aristide. That's a victory for democracy when popular movements can organize and set programs and pick their candidate and put them into office, which is not what happened here, of course.


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MIT Professor Chomsky, a world-renowned linguist, and author of more than 100 books, spoke last week to a packed audience in Boston at an event organized by Encuentro 5. His talk was titled "What Next? The Elections, the Economy, and the World."

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Another lesson from Marx (with help from Weber)
Posted by: cultureindustries on Nov 28, 2008 1:10 PM   
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Once again, Chomsky gets the facts pretty much right. However, as an intellectual of the Cold War he needs to maintain distance from Marx, and yet the Old Gray One provides a model for the Obama candidacy in The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon. Marx wrote that book to explain the 1851 coup by Bonaparte's nephew to establish the dictatorship that resulted in the Second French Empire. That book famously quotes Marx for his notion that history repeats itself first as tragedy then as farce. It's also known for the idea that men make history but not out of whole cloth. In this case, the trenchant, and quite frankly from Marx's historical materialist perspective most important, observation is the willingness of capitalism to morph as needed to keep the cash flow going. Or as Marx puts it: "that to preserve its social power intact its political power must be broken; that the individual bourgeois can continue to exploit the other classes and to enjoy undisturbed property, family, religion, and order only on condition that their class be condemned along with the other classes to like political nullity; that in order to save its purse it must forfeit the crown." The complete text to the 18th Brumaire is available online @ marxists.org. The Max Weber aspect comes in through his sociological writing on American politics, where he equates with charismatic authority (validated by electoral consensus, which isn't the same as direct democracy) as a cover for the rational bureaucracy that really runs things. Don't let the outsourcing and privatizing of government and the new hoop-di-dooh about change fool you. Things aren't really going to be that different.

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The uneducated masses
Posted by: wormfarmer on Nov 28, 2008 1:27 PM   
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The predictions professor Chomsky makes are, in my view, correct in assuming we will see more of the same. With the final brick in the establish ment wall being Paul Volker. If we wanted a Clinton administration, Hillary would have been the candidate. The deceit faced by the population of this country in regard to hope, change, the election of a bi-racial president, is reflected in the choices of the new administration. I see no change in anything but personnel, and we've been there. The power of domination and control is evident in the substance of "Brand Obama", his corporate voting record, (F.I.S.A., bailout, retroactive pardoning for the telecommunications industry, continued involvements in both Afghanistan and Pakistan AND Iraq), and there is more to come.
So much for democracy, Baa, Baa, for now.

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Something like that.
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 28, 2008 2:20 PM   
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But not exactly.

And what's happened to the country -- which is we're not supposed to mention -- is that there was extensive and very constructive activism in the 1960s, which had an aftermath. So the feminist movement, mostly developed in the 70s -- the solidarity movements of the 80's and on till today. And the activism did civilize the country. The country's a lot more civilized than it was 40 years ago and the historic achievements illustrate it.

I'd love to think so, but I don't think this is exactly the case. The country most certainly is NOT more civilized than it was 40 years ago. I'll grant that Barack is standing on the shoulders of the soldiers in the civil rights movement, buit there were no legacies, no permanent advancement, no transformaton of the American mind as a whole which would account for his being elected President. Whatever circumstances occurred, whatever crisis or perception or clarification was responsible for that, we are surely lucky that it happened.

I think Professor Chomsky is right in one way. The struggles of the 60's are partially internalized by the young today. For the most part, Gen-X and younger don't see the point of denying gays civil rights, don't remember the civil rights struggle but are more comfortable with racial equality than previous generations, and don't remember the Viet Nam war as significant in their lives. Barack himself says he's not a part of the 60's peace-love generation.

But the change that got Barack elected is much more than a partial legacy from those that came before. It's due to the fact that the world has just changed hands.

Barack is the first, the very first non-boomer President. He got where he did by astute manipulation of media and information sources which did not exist in the 60's, and were never used to this effect in an election before. He was elected not only by us, but also by our kids. And he will have to answer immediately to those who elected him by means of those same information sources.

And he knows it.

So much for the prognosticators of every stripe who insist that "common sense" dictates this or that about Barack's appointments. We can't separate process from content anymore. It's a new game, which defies prediction, even by the best and most distinguished of us.

Lastly--I love you Professor Chomsky. Don't go all 'nader' on me.

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» RE: Something like that. Posted by: bornxeyed
» fools longdream! Posted by: zorro
Chomsky leaping to confusions
Posted by: realveive on Nov 28, 2008 5:24 PM   
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The way it’s supposed to work, Obama as Prez tells his “crew” what to do and they do it. He provides the “what” that needs doing and the crew provides the “how” that “what” gets done. Experience in knowing how to effect change is wonderful because it expedites getting things done. After eight years of a helmsman who ran our ship of state, ie, America, like a blind drunken pirate, it’s going to take a little time to fix things. Obama’s “whats” are what count and as long as they’re nothing like Bush’s “whats” America’s gonna be okay. Given the right marching orders, experienced worker bees do better than novices. Pulling the plug on Obama two months before he takes office is plain stupid, so give the guy a chance.

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» RE: Chomsky leaping to confusions Posted by: KDelphi5950
If Obama were to populate
Posted by: weathered on Nov 29, 2008 1:42 AM   
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his sphere of positive influence by engaging honorable souls, we'd all be served well seeking Noam Chomsky's counsel.

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kvass
Posted by: kvass on Nov 30, 2008 10:00 PM   
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Does this chap Chomsky really give speeches like that? Does he just throw out the english language book and go it alone with his dreadful use of the spoken language. Enough said. What is more important is that he seems to find himself rather dated, not part of the show. It would be an interesting exercise to have some of these Chomsky type double-domes go back and review some of the 40 or so presidential-elect situations and they would probably draw very similar conclusions as Professor Chomsky just did. Of course the in-coming Obama administration must follow a moderately conservative line - it is what has been happening for the past thirty or forty years. Of course this dear old academic is upset. Things are moving on and you - poor old dear have probably had your day.

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» good post Posted by: MobileSucks
» RE: kvass Posted by: mdarlinggg
Chomsky's perspecive on Obama
Posted by: SirScud on Dec 1, 2008 8:10 AM   
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I think professor Chomsky's skepticism is meant as a warning/reminder to us all, that we must all actively express our opinions to the Obama administration and, thereby, insist on the "changes" we expect in our government. His reference to Evo Morales in Bolivia is an indication of what his "hopes" are regarding how "the people" must look beyond the election, which is but the first step in the taking back of control of the government. The next step will be more difficult! We must stay engaged, put aside cynicism, and express our support, or opposition, to every action; beginning with the presidential appointments.
Personally, I think we need a stronger and more independent Attorney General.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on Dec 2, 2008 8:14 PM   
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great article very astute.
Noam wrote a book called failed states.
The US is a failed state. unable to protect or represent its citizens, unable to prevent the major crimes committed by Wall Street that has robbed every one of us. Then this slick set of politicians third world mentality sweeps into office on pure bullshit called change.You will see change........You will see a grass roots revolution coming.

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» Sheep don't revolt Posted by: gar1948
Do We Believe in Ourselves? Yes We Do!
Posted by: blondesprite on Dec 7, 2008 5:47 AM   
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Do we believe in ourselves? Yes we do.

Mr. Chomsky, you are quite right. It was an historic election. We get it. Our nation’s highest office must be purchased. While we may not like it, that is a fact that is not likely to change any time soon. Candidates must purchase marketing professionals to package and deliver a message via the squawk boxes and the Internet, which is also not likely to change.

I disagree about the landslide. Obama won by 53% to McCain’s 47 %. By today’s standards, i.e. Gore and Bush were neck and neck. Kerry and Bush were too close to call. It could be argued that both of those elections were stolen or supreme court appointments. Winning, by a 6 point spread under those conditions and, in my opinion, was a remarkable landslide. Flipping red states was another historic achievement.

Mr. Chomsky, I do not see and hear hopeless, disorganized people. Go to Obama’s web site blog. You will read thousands of comments, some are euphoric, and many are asking what now? Obama has given us the tools and resources to answer that question.

Just recently, he has asked that we host House Parties, to stay organized and focused. He is asking us to answer the now question ourselves. This is what leaders, in this country, do. They get out in front of the parade we create.

My particular answer to that question was to start a Restore the U. S. Constitution Fund. I sent him a donation and asked him to do exactly that. I sent letters to family and friends asking them to join me. I posted an open letter to his web site blog and asked those who agree the U. S. Constitution must be put back on the table, to copy the letter or write their own, and contribute to the First 100 days for $100.00 Fund. Mr. Chomsky, you probably spend that on lunch. Put your money where your mouth is, send him your lunch money and ask him to restore our Constitution.

Obama has stayed with his overarching message of National Unity. He promised to end the politics of cultural division; in opting out of smear tactics he did that through the integrity of how he and his advisers ran his campaign. He promised to reach across the isle; he is doing that through his appointments. He worked with Gov. Dean, at the protest of the DNC, Pelosi and Emanuel, with a fifty state strategy. In these important areas, he is delivering change.

Regarding his Vice President Selection and Chief of Staff Appointment, have you ever heard the slogan; keep your friends close and your enemies closer?

Regarding the financial crisis, he is adopting the politics of Roosevelt in a Kennedyesque style in his broad public works and green energy initiatives. Regarding Rubin, Summers, Clinton and the criminals on wall street, more is accomplished through flipping a few accomplices than acting like John-by-God-Wayne. We don’t need to shoot up the bad guys; we need the finesse, of an Elliott Ness. The IRS needs to be empowered again, to unravel the mess and figure out the-- who, what, when and where and how of all that has been lost. We already know the why—unbridled greed.

So yes, it is up to us to continue. Obama can only lead the parade we begin. I, for one, have started with restoring the U. S. Constitution. As written in the Preamble, our Constitution promotes the general welfare (which, in my opinion, must include single payer universal healthcare) through justice (a single rule of law) for all.

It must be made very clear; no one has ever had or will have the authority to take the rule of law off the table. We must close Guantanamo; restore Habeas Corpus, Posse Comitatus and our Separation of Church and State laws.

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Yes We Do
Posted by: blondesprite on Dec 7, 2008 5:49 AM   
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We, the people, must re-establish compliance with the Geneva Conventions and restore basic rights of assembly, of association and free speech. We must re-affirm our nation remains united through a system of Federal Laws which supersede state laws. We must repeal the so-called Patriot Act, clearly recognize and state its unconstitutionality.

Nationally and publicly, for the sake of history and our future, we must learn how and why we went down the paths of an illegal war against a sovereign nation, Abu Ghriab, unjust military tribunals, secret renditions, corrupt private military contracts and torture.

Until we, as a people, are able to recognize our collective decent selves again, demand our highest principles work through our highest national, state and local offices, we will continue to slide, figuratively and literally, into an even deeper national emotional and financial depression.

If our nation’s highest office must be purchased, so too, may our nation’s identity be restored. Yes, Mr. Chomsky, Freedom and Democracy are essential for a healthy and thriving economy! Join the parade. Send $100.00 today.
Send it to:
President-Elect
Barack Obama
100 Days for $100.00 Fund
P. O. Box 8102
Chicago, Il 60680

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» RE: Yes We Doo Doo Posted by: schiffer
» RE: Yes We Doo Doo Posted by: blondesprite
» RE: Yes We Doo Doo Posted by: schiffer
PEOPLE"S RESPONSIBILITY
Posted by: SEDGFLD on Dec 7, 2008 10:29 AM   
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We csn do theorizing and comparisons from now until the end of time, but, once again, things don't change in this country unless Americans change.
This can be proven by the different ways in which the majority of Americans treat the financial industry payoffs versus the auto makers. Americans are still willing to look the other way as the ones who caused the predicted crisis get more compensation, without having to adhere to a strict set of standards, from many of the same politicans who went along with the way they did business in the first place. Many of them also went along with the automotive industry executives but are now putting on a show about how disgusted they are and how they don't want to go along with giving them any money. When all is said and done, the industry will receive some funds because of the disaster it would cause this country in unemployment, alone, not to do anything. The financial industry isn't being held to the same set of standards because the have more money to filter to these same members of Congress, leaving the industry with the rank and file workers to be the scapegoat.
Until Americans stop living in their fantasy worlds and demand accountability from the members of Congress who have continuously sold all of us out for at least 8 years and from those industries they are giving our current and future money to, we will continue to be the ones who pay for the privileged to raid the resources of this country without so much as a thought to the "family" and "Christian" values the manipulators and their willing subjects claim to adhere to through rhetorical hypocrisy every chance they get.

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They Own Us
Posted by: ron heringhauser on Dec 7, 2008 5:13 PM   
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Every few years they hold an election and give us a choice between two of the candidates they own and control (or will), so as to give us the illusion of having a voice in our government. The central bankers are the shadow government who control it all. We will never be free from this tyranny until the Federal Reserve banking cartel is abolished. As we slip deeper into this next great depression, it would be a great opportunity for Americans once and for all to break the bondage of this dark-evil force, known as the Federal Reserve, which is a foreign banking cartel, whose sole aim, is One World Government, enslavement of mankind, and eugenics.

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