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Dems' Big Risk: Lieberman Keeps Chairmanship, Caucus Membership

By John Nichols, TheNation.com. Posted November 18, 2008.


Senate Democrats opted not to punish Joe Lieberman for backing John McCain. Will the risk pay off?

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To the surprise of no one on Capitol Hill, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman will retain his chairmanship of the powerful Senate Homeland Security Committee and his place in the Democratic Caucus.

Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic nominee for vice president who angered his fellow partisans first by embracing neo-conservative foreign policies and then by backing Republican John McCain for the presidency, had been targeted for punishment by grassroots Democrats who were furious with his positions and actions.

But the message of Lieberman's critics was never coherent -- it ranged from calls for expelling the independent senator from the caucus to stripping him of committee assignments to demanding an apology -- and it never achieved the sort of critical mass that might have influenced Democratic senators to demand a measure of accountability from one of their own.

Against the call for accountability was a political argument, advanced by allies of President-elect Barack Obama and a number of Lieberman's Senate colleagues, that taking too harsh a stance toward the senator from Connecticut might make him the first political "martyr" of an era in which Democrats are trying to send bipartisan "one-nation" messages.

So Lieberman took a slap on the wrist: giving up the chairmanship of a subcommittee dealing with climate change and accepting a formal if tepid condemnation from the caucus for some of his more over-the-top statements on McCain's behalf -- especially his absurd claim that Obama's vote for setting a timeline for the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq was an attack on the troops.

In return, the caucus voted 42-13 to let Lieberman remain in the caucus and enjoy the primary perk of that membership: the Homeland Security chairmanship.

Ultimately, the result was a disappointing one, as it left Lieberman in charge of a committee where he had been a problematic player while removing him from the chairmanship of the climate-change subcommittee on which he has tended to take positions that are far more in line with those of mainstream Democrats.

Could the fight have ended differently? Perhaps, but it would have required an inside-outside strategy where Lieberman's critics in the caucus (Vermonters Patrick Leahy and Bernie Sanders, Californian Barbara Boxer and Iowan Tom Harkin, among others) worked with netroots and grassroots activists to develop a clear ask. That ask -- probably the surrender of Lieberman's committee chairmanship in return for allowing him to retain subcommittee chairmanships he values and that are significant for Connecticut -- was telegraphed in a statement last week by Sanders.

But, by then, Lieberman had already been "saved" by Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada.

The question that remains goes to the question of whether Lieberman will take his caucus membership seriously. Senate Democrats will need his vote when Republicans seek to stall action on policy initiatives and confirmations of Obama appointees. If he provides it, that will be the end of the story of his relationship with the caucus -- though not with the voters of Connecticut, who polling suggests are souring on their renegade senator.

If, on the other hand, Lieberman sides with the Republicans to undermine the party's agenda and the Obama presidency he worked so hard to prevent, then the caucus can and should be prepared to censure the Connecticut senator by rescinding the pass that he was given on Tuesday.

And what are the rest of us left with? Well, at least we can Laugh at Lieberman.


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LIEberman is just by product
Posted by: weathered on Nov 18, 2008 11:52 AM   
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of a MSM monster that has w/deft alacrity made accountability, integrity and above all else honor an element of nostalgia.

In another time and space little joe would gather no traction.

Today he's able to broker an arms deal for Israel to sell weapons to Georgia, he's able to protect Purdue Pharma from the oxycoton damage they've wrought and still make it home to watch himself on TV.

See ALL MSM for exactly what they are, an accomplice to the crimes.

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» Here,here! Posted by: rockpicker
For the record
Posted by: improperly_sedated on Nov 18, 2008 1:07 PM   
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I am a nose-holding socialist. I vote for the Democrats, but don't like it. The lesser of two evils is the system we have, and voting effectively means operating within that system.

I am part of a large segment of the electorate used and discarded by the Democratic party, time and again. Who else am I going to vote for? I don't exactly know.

Not them.

They just lost me for good.

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» RE: For the record Posted by: AftrAftr
» RE: For the record Posted by: improperly_sedated
The Brainless Dem....
Posted by: CovertRage on Nov 18, 2008 1:13 PM   
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...otwits can't possibly be that desperate to fend off a ReThugniCon fillibuster! C'mon! They'd do better to take their chances schmoozing Rethugs to vote with them than relying on this back-stabbing forked-toungued turncoat.

...independent, my ass. This rascal is the chair of the beelzebub party. Lieberman is not to be trusted.

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Votejoke!
Posted by: writerman on Nov 18, 2008 1:28 PM   
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I can't bring myself to call it a two-party system anymore, I prefer the twin-party system!

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» RE: Votejoke! Posted by: dustdevil
Age of Obama
Posted by: ibolyap on Nov 18, 2008 1:32 PM   
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Mr Lieberman should consider himself very lucky. He crossed party lines but in this new age of working together he has been brought back into the fold. The Democrats should monitor his actions closely. One slip and he should tossed.

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jareilly
Posted by: jareilly on Nov 18, 2008 1:47 PM   
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so, let me get this straight...Lieberman openly, publicly and gleefully plunges a knife in the backs of everybody in his own party, including their own Presidential nominee and they give him a pass? And let him keep the committee in which he can do the most damage to THEIR agenda? All this in the name of "unity"? What, one can only wonder, will be their excuse for Lieberman when he starts twisting the blade? Does anyone doubt he will? What has he spent the last 6 years doing?

The problem with this chronic Democratic sado-masochism is that they like getting tied up but we are the ones getting beaten.

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» RE: jareilly Posted by: mwildfire
Obama campaigned for Leiberman AGAINST a Democrat, why are you suprised???
Posted by: DCostello2 on Nov 18, 2008 1:55 PM   
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Why is everyone so surprised? Obama wanted to keep Lieberman so Reid kept him. Plain and simple. The better question is WHY does Obama want to keep Lieberman? Remember this, Obama campaigned FOR Lieberman. Lieberman was rejected by the Democrats in CT for a REAL Democrat, an Anti-war Democrat who wasn't in bed with Israel. And what did Obama do? He campaign for Leiberman.

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It's all been said before but here's a refresher on what the current election was about
Posted by: DCostello2 on Nov 18, 2008 2:22 PM   
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We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the foe, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
'Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

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What can we expect?
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Nov 18, 2008 2:59 PM   
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The Democrats have no incentive to behave as progressives when they're rewarded for ruling as Republicans. When a left-wing candidate outside of the Democratic party runs, they have to deal with half-wits calling them egomaniacs and bleating the tired drivel about throwing votes away.

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LOL - Democrats = Spineless Chumps
Posted by: left_libertarian on Nov 18, 2008 4:23 PM   
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what a bunch of flouncies

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I GIVE UP!
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 18, 2008 4:43 PM   
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I give right the fruckedy-fickedy-frack UP!

I'm watching Dennis Leary do a stint with Chris Matthews here. They're speculating about who's going to clean up after the White House Dog.
It's Leary's opinion that it's going to be Lieberman.

We can only, you should pardon the expression, HOPE so.

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maybe the real reason
Posted by: mwildfire on Nov 18, 2008 5:30 PM   
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is that Lieberman has to retain the chairmanship of that committee because Israel requires that a dual citizen hold it, so martial law can be declared if it's ever necessary to suppress a revolt by US citizens against Likud policies. I can remember when the US was a sovereign nation in its own right, but that was then. Now, Israel's right wing dictates American foreign policy, and the Homeland Scurity angle could come into play, for example, if they decide it's time to nuke Iran and there is serious resistance on the part of Americans. That isn't likely, but it's conceivable and of course couldn't be tolerated.

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The 60th vote
Posted by: PaulK on Nov 18, 2008 5:41 PM   
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All of a sudden we almost have a three party system, and the third party, one lone senator, holds a great deal of actual power on the Senate floor.

The Democrats need 60 votes to invoke cloture and to stop a Republican filibuster. They don't quite have 60 votes. Lieberman is one vote closer to the magic 60. If it pushes the Dems from 57 to 58 votes, only 2 Republican defectors are required as opposed to 3.

No, I normally wouldn't like this sellout. But Obama isn't a dictator like Bushie. He's hard-selling to the critical senators right now, not next spring, not on January 21.

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» Absolutely incorrect Posted by: improperly_sedated
Who should have their chair pulled.
Posted by: 2thepoint on Nov 18, 2008 6:28 PM   
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I would have liked to see Leibermann give up the chair. He is the only true bipartisan politician besides McCain and hopefully represents a new thought on the absurdity of the two party system!

If any one should be forced to give up their chair it should be Franks.. he is incompetent and his actions have contributed to this current economic situation!

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Rebuttal
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Nov 18, 2008 9:03 PM   
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The message among rank-and-file Democrats about what to do with Lieberman has never been less than abundantly clear.

"Throw him out!"

But then, we're not the ones getting bought off by Israeli lobbyists.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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The Archetypical Brown-Noser
Posted by: Kirc Zame on Nov 18, 2008 9:14 PM   
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Which way is the wind blowing today Joe?

Yes, come slinking back in the shadows like Golem "Yessssss my preciousss..."

Certainly this is a sop AIPAC and no Democratic majority will be large enough to stand up to the real power.

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No Change we all were hoping for ....
Posted by: vot on Nov 19, 2008 1:15 AM   
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with yet another clear sign as to who is actually running these > Jew-nited States of America

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» RE: Let's be nice, now. Posted by: Longdream
The people get the government they deserve
Posted by: bluepilgrim on Nov 19, 2008 4:46 AM   
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Sure, there are some among the people who know what's what, but the majority of the people are ignorant, if not downright dumb, and it's accpetable to them to be ruled by gangsters -- of either party.

It seems most of what I've heard over the past few years were people, in their stupidity, trying to justify gangsterism, gross violations of ethics, imperialism, and incompetence. Even now there are those "on the left" defending keeping this crooked war criminal collaborator in position and office. Just what do these slime molds have to do to get people to say NO?

Screw the Republicans, screw the Democrats, screw the fascists, and screw Obama. We won't get any kind of change from those in power in the system. That's not pleasant to hear, but, dammit, it's the truth.

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Dems Complicit Again
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Nov 19, 2008 8:00 AM   
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Just like Al Gore, after fighting against the election being stolen by computer fraud and voter suppression, capitulated on the floor of the United States Senate by stopping anyone from objecting to the Certification of the Florida electoral College vote.

Just like Clinton stopped any investigation of George HW Bush and his involvement in the Iran-Contra affair and his involvement in the assassination of JFK and the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.

Just like John Kerry capitulated the day after the election knowing full well that Bush stole the election by voter suppression and computer fraud in many of the battleground states. Of course, he explained his concession in words that the everyday uninformed simplistic Americans would understand "I don't want to seem like a sore loser".

Just like Gerald Ford struck a deal with Richard Nixon which called for his resignation instead of impeachment hearings. In this way, the real reason for the Watergate burglary would be kept secret and the complicit Congress would continue to look good. The real reason was that there was evidence, including photographic evidence, placing E. Howard Hunt in Dealey Square on the day JFK was killed. If you are too young to remember, E. Howard Hunt was one of the Watergate burglars. He recently died. Before he died, he made an audiotape in which he clearly states that JFK assassination was a conspiracy of the CIA including Lyndon Baines Johnson. Of course, the mainstream media did not pick up on this earth shattering news.

Just like Obama will not investigate Bush and/or Cheney for all of the felonies, war crimes, treason including the planning and orchestration of 9/11. He will just chalk it up to "moving on for the good of the country".

The good of the country requires the investigation and prosecution of all of these criminals starting with George H.W. Bush and moving forward.

Go to www.dot911insidejob.net for many articles and videos on these topics and many others.

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as one who used to have a lot of criminal friends,
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Nov 19, 2008 12:14 PM   
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this strikes me as a "protection" move. Lieberman gets saved from people who want to kick his ass by the incoming administration. I can assure you they're not doing it for nothing.

#@!

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*grumblegrumblegrumble*
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 19, 2008 2:53 PM   
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oksoit'saboutreconciliationnotpunishmentgrumblegrumbledamn barackandhishighmindedstuffgrumblegrumble hesnofunatallgrumble

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expel Liberman?
Posted by: lduvall on Nov 19, 2008 4:43 PM   
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Until the democrats get some backbone, retire Reid and Pelosi (enablers both) to the back benches and get some real leadership, the likes of Liberman will continue to benefit - and as we will soon see, the "minority" republicans are going to continue to hold sway.

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