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Can Obama Be FDR?

By Robert Kuttner, Chelsea Green Publishing. Posted November 7, 2008.


A new book shows how Obama needs to address the economic emergency, starting with practical help for families and individuals.

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The following is an excerpt from Chapter 4 of Obama's Challenge by Robert Kuttner.

When Barack Obama takes office as America's forty-fourth president, he will face an acute, three-pronged economic challenge. The financial system will be in crisis to a greater degree than at any time since 1933. America's international imbalances will be on a worsening downward slide. And the economy will be in a deepening recession supercharged by falling consumer purchasing power, declining housing values, and cascading business losses.

In addition, he faces four chronic problems that recession will only intensify. The recession will exacerbate a thirty-year trend of increasing inequality and insecurity. The crisis in energy and climate change will be deepening; the unreliability and cost of health care will be relentlessly worsening. The decay of America's public spaces and facilities will persist. All of this will require a more activist use of government than we've seen in at least four decades.

As we saw in chapter 3, real obstacles to change are compounded by attitudinal ones. Assuming that he is not disabled by an undertow of dubious counsel, what exactly should Obama do? He will have no shortage of advice, much of it contradictory, and the risk will be either to aim too low or to run off in several directions at once before having a clear strategic plan.

At every step, he needs to restore confidence -- not just with inspiring words or grand aspirations, but by demonstrating that help is on the way. He also needs to transform prevailing ideological assumptions, so that the practical help attracts wide support and builds public approval for even bolder measures using activist government that will take longer to enact -- and to reclaim support for the more fundamental progressive idea that government plays a constructive and necessary role.

In Roosevelt's famous First Hundred Days, FDR launched dozens of initiatives. Within just over three months, fifteen pieces of landmark legislation had passed Congress and remade the relationship between economy and government.

Obama does not need to match that record. But at the outset of his first term, he does need to address the economic emergency on three tracks. Longer-term reforms such as universal health insurance can come a little later.

First, Treasury Secretary Paulson's policy of ad hoc financial bailouts needs to be turned into a more systematic program, with explicit principles of prudential regulation. The recapitalization of America's damaged financial system must continue, perhaps at an expanded scale. But it needs to be part of a coherent strategy for restoring a sound financial system -- one that the Bush administration has been incapable of creating. Second, since the housing collapse is so central both to the damaged condition of America's credit markets and to falling consumer demand, Obama needs to work with Congress on a much more robust housing and mortgage rescue program. The Frank-Dodd mortgage refinancing law and Fannie Mae-Freddie Mac guarantee enacted in late July was not a bad start, but it is not enough to do the job. And third, we will need a dramatic expansion of public spending, well into the hundreds of billions of dollars, as classic anti-depression medicine.

Begin with Low-Hanging Fruit


Obama's earliest measures should be devoted to delivering practical help to individuals, families, and communities. That will both relieve economic suffering and establish him as a leader, as well as moderate the recession. By spring 2009, we will need an immediate recovery package in the range of $200 to $300 billion, and not primarily in the form of tax cuts. That money will be needed to extend unemployment benefits; deliver money to states and localities whose falling revenues cause them to cut services in a recession; and provide the first installment on a long-term effort to rebuild public infrastructure, with an emphasis on both deferred basic maintenance and efficient renewable energy. Such public outlays can also speed development of technologies that will improve America's competitiveness and provide such twenty-first-century basics as universal broadband service.

The public works funds could be combined with an increase in job training subsidies to reduce bottlenecks in the supply of skilled workers. For example, retrofitting homes and offices for energy efficiency, building on pilot programs already operating in some small cities, could be a quick source both of good jobs and local economic stimulus. This would also yield savings on America's energy bill -- which would reduce our trade imbalance and put more money in consumers' pockets.

As of early August, when this book was going to press, Obama has offered three versions of this kind of public outlay, each getting bolder as the crisis has deepened. In a speech last April, he included:

A National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank that will invest $60 billion over ten years and generate millions of new jobs. We can't keep standing by while our roads and bridges and airports crumble and decay. We can't keep running our economy on debt. For our economy, our safety, and our workers, we have to rebuild America.
And we need to invest in green technology. We can't keep sending billions of dollars to foreign nations because of our addiction to oil. We should be investing in American companies that invest in American-manufactured solar panels and windmills, and in clean coal technology. That's why I've proposed investing $150 billion over the next ten years in the green energy sector.
This is exactly what's needed, but the scale should be bigger. Later he proposed a second stimulus package of $50 billion, of which $30 billion was to be tax cuts. That was far too feeble.

Then, on July 31, after his economic summit meeting and the Labor Department's announcement of higher unemployment, came stronger medicine. Obama proposed $25 billion for a "State Growth Fund to prevent state and local cuts in health, education and housing assistance or counterproductive increases in property taxes, tolls or fees." The fund would also fund home heating and weatherization assistance. Second, he proposed another $25 billion for a Jobs and Growth Fund to replenish the highway trust fund, prevent cutbacks in road and bridge maintenance, and fund new fast-tracked projects to repair schools. All of this, he said, would "save more than 1 million jobs in danger of being cut."

This proposal was a welcome down payment on an idea that progressives have been proposing for three decades -- a "ready-to-go" program of standby anti-recession investment in public infrastructure. The idea is that localities can qualify in advance for preapproved projects, which can then be launched on relatively short notice. When recession strikes, the federal government would release the funds, with the money divided among localities according to a formula. With the economy in serious trouble and a $1.6 trillion infrastructure backlog, this program is probably necessary for several years, and should be continued as an ongoing standby measure.

In the first phase, federal public works outlay could begin delivering badly needed public funds and decent jobs within as little as ninety days -- money to repair and refurbish roads, bridges, mass transit, parks, schools, and public buildings, or to prevent cuts in state and local budgets. Gearing up a planning system for a more expansive second phase should take about six months. During the Depression, Roosevelt got money flowing in a matter of weeks. Later, the Public Works Administration not only delivered tangible public improvements and good jobs but also created a local planning system in which proposed projects were discussed and debated by citizens, who played a role in setting local priorities.

Why begin here? Three big reasons. First, this approach would deliver tangible, visible help, and quickly. Second, it would be politically irresistible -- for the very reason that conservative opponents of public outlay love to hate: It would have elements of what is disparaged as pork-barrel spending. Every congressional district would get its share (would you like to be the congressman who voted against such a measure in a serious recession?). Harder-hit regions of the country would qualify for extra aid.

Third, an economic downturn supercharged by a credit contraction is a different creature from an ordinary business-cycle recession. About 16 percent of America's homes have mortgages worth more than the value of the house. As economic activity slows, business defaults are rising. Loans that would be considered perfectly sound in normal times are being turned down or charged higher interest costs, because panicky banks have suddenly turned risk-averse. When businesses and consumers have trouble getting credit, economic activity slows and recession becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. We saw this first in the subprime collapse, which gradually spread to the entire banking sector, and then to the rest of the economy. As a consequence, public spending needs to do heavier lifting than usual to counteract the depressive effect of a credit crunch.

Yes, Deficits

In the short run, part of this program of public works would be deficit-financed, as Obama recognized in moving beyond an earlier and ill-advised promise last spring that all his new spending programs would be offset by cuts elsewhere. It is a matter of basic macroeconomics that new outlays that are offset by other budget cuts or tax increases provide no net stimulus. After Obama announced his emergency anti-recession program on July 31, he gave an interview to NPR's usually intelligent Michele Norris. Norris, in a flawless rendition of the conventional wisdom, asked in a slightly horrified tone, "This morning you announced a new emergency economic plan. It includes a $50 billion package. Can you promise to pay for all that without increasing our debt? Where will this money come from?"

Obama explained, "When it comes to a stimulus package, typically you are not looking at offsets, because what you are trying to do is to prevent the economy from going into a further tailspin."

But Norris persisted with the usual story: "But with the deficit as high as it is right now, is it responsible to propose something that is likely to increase deficit spending?"

Obama didn't flinch: "Well, Michele," he said, "understand that if we continue on the trends we're on right now, where unemployment keeps on going up -- I'm in Florida, where they are in recession for the first time in 16 years -- if you continue to see an economic slide, that is going to cost far more in terms of tax revenues, because businesses aren't selling, taxes aren't being collected. And what we're going to end up with is a much worse situation when it comes to our deficit."

This exchange occurred during a week when McCain was closing the polling gap with Obama and Democrats were expressing alarm that Obama had not yet made the sale with enough white working-class voters despite worsening economic conditions that should play to Democratic advantage. By explaining the stakes and offering tangible help, Obama positioned himself to be an effective president -- as well as increasing the odds that he would reach the White House at all.

In the financial collapse of the Great Depression, Roosevelt turned to previously unknown peacetime deficit spending of around 4 to 6 percent of GDP. It turned out that this level of pump priming was necessary but not sufficient to fully restore prosperity. On the eve of the wartime mobilization, unemployment had been cut only in half, from a peak of 25 percent to about 12 percent. The economy kept slipping back into recessions. Full recovery came only with the even greater deficit-financed government spending of World War II, which peaked at 30 percent of GDP.

We are not in another Great Depression, and we don't need a recovery program on the scale of World War II. But we will need increased deficits, at least for a year or two until we are on the road to recovery. Even if we did nothing, the recession itself would reduce economic activity, hence tax receipts, and only an economic idiot (or perhaps the International Monetary Fund) counsels fiscal austerity in a deep recession.

A temporary increase in deficit spending might offend Democratic budgetary conservatives who have embraced pay-as-you-go budget rules both on grounds of fiscal prudence and as a defensive strategy against further Republican tax cutting. Under these so-called pay-go rules, all new outlays and all new tax cuts need to be "paid for," either by other program cuts or other tax increases. For example, in the first stimulus package, a rather meager $168 billion affair passed by Congress last February, conservative Blue Dog Democrats joined far-right Republicans in blocking a more expansive measure because they didn't support increasing the deficit. But as Obama explained so cogently, the very definition of a fiscal stimulus is a temporary increase in deficit spending.

At the same time, not all stimulus programs are fiscal. For the longer term, there is a good argument that raising taxes on the very wealthy and spending the money on old-fashioned public works or investments in energy independence, science and technology, or college aid would have a net stimulative effect, even if the deficit impact were neutral. The reason is that every penny would be spent, whereas the nontaxed incomes of the very wealthy might be saved, moved abroad, or invested in nonproductive uses such as diamonds, gold, or pre-Columbian art.

Legislatively, I am assuming that while an emergency public works program was advancing on one track, a program to repeal the Bush tax cuts would be moving on another. There might or might not be an exact rendezvous. But pay-as-you-go budgeting was a tactic for another era, one in which Republican tax giveaways needed to be restrained, and one in which the economy was not in deepening recession. Fiscally, as FDR belatedly recognized, budget rules that make sense for normal times do not apply in an economic emergency. Over the entire business cycle, fairly moderate deficits of, say, 2 percent of GDP are sensible. But in a severe recession, greater deficit spending makes sense; and in no event should a public works program be held hostage to a balanced budget, much less to long-term reform of social insurance.

Beyond an immediate and more expansive program to increase jobs and fiscal relief for communities, the new administration will need to move on multiple fronts. Here again, the most important principle is first to do what needs to be done to stop the bleeding while building toward more expansive successes in the future.

The Special Case of Housing

By July 2008, there were 272,171 foreclosures recorded, a 55-percent increase from a year earlier. Homeowners were losing trillions of dollars of home equity, the principal form of their net worth. During the boom years, as incomes lagged behind inflation but housing values surpassed it, homeowners got into the habit of borrowing against their homes. By spring 2008, more than half of the value of America's homes was not equity but debt, up from just 20 percent debt in the 1960s; it was the worst debt-to-equity ratio since World War II. Plummeting housing values contributed to the downward spiral of reduced consumer spending and shrunken economic activity generally.

The Frank-Dodd housing bill, enacted and signed (with no ceremony) by a reluctant President Bush in late July, included provisions enabling people stuck with subprime loans at astronomical interest rates to get refinancing at more modest interest costs, with the loans guaranteed by FHA. But there will be a great deal of litigation on whether a holder of the loan is obligated to accept the refinancing. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that only about 400,000 homes will be refinanced over the next three years thanks to the bill. Yet 2 to 3 million homeowners are expected to default on their mortgages in 2008 alone.

CBO also calculated that the banks are likely to off-load the riskiest loans onto FHA, and that 35 percent of these lower-interest-rate mortgages will eventually default, at taxpayer expense. In the end, the rescue program could do more to help banks than homeowners, according to CBO. In fairness, the whole point of the bill was to refinance the mortgages at great risk of foreclosure. The problem is that the bill, by itself, solves only a fraction of the problem.

A more expansive provision of the Democrats' bill would have included upward of $10 billion to enable local governments and nonprofit agencies to buy foreclosed-upon houses and either return them to the rental housing supply or sell them with low-interest-rate mortgages to moderate-income buyers. The Bush administration and fiscally conservative Blue Dog Democrats in the House blocked this provision as adding to the deficit. (What are they waiting for -- a full-blown depression?)

The next version of the housing and mortgage rescue program will need to be far bolder. Only presidential leadership can accomplish that. Once again, the New Deal offers a precedent.

Before the Roosevelt era, virtually all mortgages were short-term loans of five years of less, typically interest-only, with the principal due and payable at the end. If homeowners could not roll over the loan, they were out of luck. As foreclosures skyrocketed in the early 1930s, the New Deal invented the modern long-term, self-amortizing mortgage. The government offered to insure such mortgages so that lenders would accept them, devising the Federal National Mortgage Administration (FNMA) to create a "secondary market" to purchase mortgages from lenders, turn them into government bonds, and replenish the bank's money so that the banker could make more loans.

As foreclosures kept rising because of the general economic conditions, Roosevelt and Congress also created the Home Owners Loan Corporation, which made low-interest direct loans at the government's own borrowing rate. Eventually, HOLC refinanced one American home in five, saving innumerable families from foreclosure, reviving a normal market in real estate, and tempering the free fall in housing prices. Because there was no corruption and loan standards were maintained, when HOLC closed its doors in 1952, it returned a modest profit to the Treasury.

There is surely a lesson here -- which could usefully be the subject of another Obama teachable moment. When people who believe in government operate it competently, the public sector can often outperform the private, particularly when the purpose is partly social. Under the New Deal schema of financial regulation, which suffered its first serious assaults only in the late 1970s, there were no major banking scandals or losses. FNMA performed beautifully, and mortgage credit was plentiful. The rate of homeownership rose from 44 percent in 1940 to 64 percent by the mid-1960s. Only after FNMA was privatized as Fannie Mae, and its executives began paying themselves multimillion-dollar salaries and taking exotic financial risks, did the institution get into big trouble.

The July 2008 housing legislation, though useful, will prove far too weak to halt the epidemic of foreclosures and the collapse in real estate values. Before this housing collapse is over, government will need something like a Home Owners Loan Corporation with the power to refinance mortgages when the private market fails. The agency should have a separate window to underwrite efforts by local government to get foreclosed houses reoccupied so that they don't drag down entire neighborhoods. This strategy could be part of a long-overdue need to subsidize affordable housing. This or something like it will need to be enacted in Obama's first hundred days. As congressmen and senators hear from constituents about collapsing housing values, dwindling real estate tax receipts, and devastated homebuilding firms, this bill should be among Obama's easier legislative challenges.

In recent years, the private housing market has seen the coexistence of feast and famine. Part of it was a bubble economy that produced windfall gains for some and ultimately invited a crash. Elsewhere, as rents followed prices upward and conservative administrations withdrew subsidies for affordable housing, tens of millions of people were paying more than a third of their incomes for shelter. Many more were doubling up or enduring two-hour commutes to work from distant small towns where prices were still relatively low.

The housing crisis creates an opportunity for government to connect millions of foreclosed-upon houses with millions of aspiring homeowners and renters seeking affordable shelter. The missing ingredient is subsidized mortgages and creative community lenders. A bold program along these lines would brake the slide in housing prices by subsidizing the purchasing power of new occupants.

One of the many perverse things about the subprime industry was that it advertised itself as the friend of moderate-income homeowners. But by offering them bait-and-switch loans with teaser rates that soon reset to interest rates that might make the Mafia blush, these lenders robbed people of their dreams. If we want to help people of modest means acquire homes, the proven way is not to charge exorbitant rates but to use subsidized mortgages with below-market rates, coupled with counseling. There are plenty of proven models, such as the fine work of Shorebank of Chicago, near Obama's old neighborhood, or Neighborhood Housing Services, both of which help moderate-income Americans realize secure homeownership. All that's lacking is adequate federal subsidy.

For the more complex reform projects of the new administration -- restoring a secure financial system; revising trade priorities; expanding the supply of good jobs; devising a path to secure renewable energy; moving toward universal health insurance -- it makes sense for the new administration to take some months to plan, and then to build support in the country. Task forces in each area could tender reports while the emergency business of stopping a slide toward depression proceeds.


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Robert Kuttner is co-editor of The American Prospect.

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Bankruptcy Reform and "Medicare for All" Need to be First
Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 7, 2008 12:38 AM   
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More investment for infrastructure is indeed needed but this will take too long to work into itself into the economy.

With Bankruptcy Reform, in particular, legalizing house price reductions in bankruptcy court could solve many foreclosures almost immediately. They are also necessary because so many mortgages have several owners with different " pieces" of the mortgage. Chris Dodd already proposed this but was rebuffed by the banking interests. Bankruptcy reform could also be extended to the "cramdown" of valuations on cars and appliances. The 2005 Bankruptcy Act was a travesty of justice.

To get real money immediately into the economy we need Medicare for All. Medicare for All would help re-capitalize business (especially manufacturing), school districts, state and local government, individual payers and the under and uninsured. The states could use any excess of savings for unemployment and pension funds. Overall this could save hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs while putting money quickly and directly into the system in the most efficient, fairest way ... taking care of people's medical bills.

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» RE: One disagreement, one addition Posted by: photon's feather
» Home ownership Posted by: Cathyc
"FRD" is Not who comes to mind when I think of Obama...
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Nov 7, 2008 3:22 AM   
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Strange as it may sound, "Abraham Lincoln" comes to mind when I think of Barak... I can't say why I feel this way, but that's who I think of and have thought of for a long while now...
**shruggs**

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» It think its because... Posted by: ~Fiona~
» RE: It think its because... Posted by: 2thepoint
» **more shruggs** Posted by: ~Fiona~
» RE: **more shruggs** Posted by: 2thepoint
» **grins** Posted by: ~Fiona~
» RE: **grins** Posted by: 2thepoint
He Can't be FDR.....
Posted by: 2thepoint on Nov 7, 2008 3:48 AM   
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because we aren't in that situation. He can and I'm sure he will be his own man. Years from now will someone say can "he" and an Obama? One way he can really leave his mark other than the first black president.

What he can do aside from all the standards of fixing the economy, foreign policy etc..etc.. is hopefully place republicans in his administration, making obsolete the GOP and hastening it's demise.

Then the democrats as the sole "party" will devour itself, as the normally do every 8 or so years, and we will have a true democracy run by the best people, not the party people.

What a novel idea!

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Franklin Delano Roobama
Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 7, 2008 4:10 AM   
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If there is one thing that's certain it is this: No president since Franklin D. Roosevelt entered office on March 4, 1933 has inerited a bigger Republican-generated mess than President Obama....

...."President Obama"....Someone pinch me, I must be dreaming....

The man has, from the very beginning, surrounded himself with the best and the brightest. Can you imagine what would have ensued had McCain abd Gidget von Braun won this thing?

SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY PHIL GRAMM???

I get the dry heaves just thinking about it.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: Franklin Delano Roobama Posted by: 2thepoint
» RE: Franklin Delano Roobama Posted by: Longdream
Obama- Appointing Federal Reserve Bank Elite to Treasury Head
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Nov 7, 2008 4:54 AM   
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Based upon the individuals who he is considering to appoint to head the Treasury Department,Obama will continue a policy of allowing the Federal Reserve Bank to dictate economic policy and continue to scam people in this country out of trillions of dollars.
The following is a short excerpt from an article posted on my website:
All of the leading candidates for the position of Treasury Secretary under president elect Barack Obama directly represent the old guard of the corporate elite system that has used the American economy as it’s engine to drive their march toward a global empire for decades.

Under the banner of “change” whichever of [2] these candidates is appointed to the Treasury will continue to rapidly expand the empowerment of the Federal Reserve monetary system and institute the very policies that have led us to the brink of financial ruin to move the economies of the world toward a centralized global banking system.

The Leading candidate for Obama’s Treasury Secretary is current Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York [3] Tim Geithner.
go to www.911insidejob.net

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Obama won't be FDR
Posted by: robchapman on Nov 7, 2008 4:56 AM   
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FDR lived in a time of mass movements and totalitarianism.

People were willing to accept great levels of government control and believed that they could cure their ills through adherence to rigidly defined idealologies.

We do not live among such people. Our political culture is much more fragmented.

I expect that President Obama will "let a thousand blossom bloom," and seek the solutions to our difficulties by empowering people at lower levels of government to take charge and help themselves.

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» Hmmn, I just read an article... Posted by: photon's feather
» RE: One definition of Faith Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Obama won't be FDR Posted by: Knot_Rich
» RE: Huh? Posted by: Longdream
For some reason, there seems to be a need to somehow put Obama in a box of some kind...
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Nov 7, 2008 5:53 AM   
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For example, he's often described as "the first black president" and now possibly being like FDR...

I have to confess, I had a very strong reaction when he was elected, I cryed each time I saw the emotionality of other people and couldn't seem to control it. In speaking with other friends from other countrys, their reactions were pretty much the same...

Perhaps it is important to try to explain this almost universal reaction to this election, or this man, but I'm not sure it can be put into a simple little box that can define whatever it is that has happened as result of the election for our 44th president...

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Not another New Deal but a NEW PERSPECTIVE
Posted by: Last Chance on Nov 7, 2008 6:15 AM   
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In the 1930s Roosevelt didn't face the threat of an ecocidal collapse of the global environment from massive overpopulation and industrial pollution. In the 1930s Roosevelt didn't face the threat of a WW3 holocaust from the proliferation of nuclear weapons. In the 1930s Roosevelt didn't face the invasion of millions of illegal aliens from exploding Latin American populations. In the 1930s the previous President Hoover had not entangled America in two financially and morally ruinous foreign wars. The list of differences goes on and on. The only similarity today is the obvious one of a worsening financial collapse, for which some of the solutions are similar, likw creating jobs and extending social services. Other than that, I think comparisons between the Roosevelt and Obama Administrations are a waste of intellect.

Instead, let's start a list of things that must be done over the next 4-8 years or else we will fall into social chaos, WW3, global ecocide and extinction.

1. Create a green economy for millions of jobs to replace the industrial monster that is polluting the World and sickening the population.

2. Reduce the human population that foments political, social and economic chaos around the World.

3. Shrink the global economy that is pushing industrial sprawl into the remaining wilderness areas and poisoning the planetary biosphere that nobody can live without.

4. Create a cooperative economy to replace the corporate horror show that now threatens our very existence.

I notice very few people anywhere are taking any of this seriously. All the economists and politicians who get to speak on national television say we should "grow the economy" as though that would solve all their problems. In fact that is the SOURCE of their problems. But they are addicted to short term gains to ignore long term consequences -- profit forever and tomorrow will take care of itself, thus avoiding the consequence of their own extinction. That's insane.

So, just how SANE will the Obama Administration be? Will it face and deal with the reality of our human predicament? I hope so, because our children and grandchildren depend on our rational behavior for their survival.

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» You Are NOT Chomsky!!! Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: You Are NOT Chomsky!!! Posted by: chomsky
What I keep saying!
Posted by: wdarling on Nov 7, 2008 6:31 AM   
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I listened to an interview with Mr. Kuttner last night and fell in instant love, so to speak. I'm in my early 30s but have always had a fascination with all things FDR, WPA, etc., and share his conviction that government investment and public attitudes in line with the 30s and 40s would solve a lot of this country's entrenched problems. It's not nostalgia, it's looking at economics and looking at the practical steps needed to turn an economy back onto solid footing. Hurray for sensible solutions based on tried and true methods, instead of crass attempts to throw money at problems and hope something sticks.

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In theory, yes. In reality, highly unlikely.
Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 7, 2008 6:35 AM   
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Two things:

1. He's gonna have to climb several mountains up the system before he can come anywhere close.

2. With his cabinet pick underway and not looking good, I don't even want to say the rest.

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More likely, he'll be Bill Clinton
Posted by: Krotos on Nov 7, 2008 7:15 AM   
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. . .which would obviously be a huge improvement over the past eight years. But the election of Obama alone isn't going to bring about some great progressive renaissance. That depends on us: our willingness to work for changes in our own communities, and our willingness to prod, criticize, or even fiercely oppose Obama when necessary.

Don't ever forget: he's a politician, not a messiah.

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» RE: He's BARACK OBAMA. Posted by: Longdream
Inaugural Poem "We Must Change"
Posted by: thinkverybig on Nov 7, 2008 7:31 AM   
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It is my goal to get in touch with someone from the Obama campaign and share with them my desire to be a part of his inauguration by reciting a poem I wrote called “We Must Change,” and I kindly ask for your help in doing so.
Go to youtube and do a search for "thinkverybig" and watch all of those videos. The one called "We Must Change" would be fitting to recite at Obama's Inauguration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM58nqX1ehE

Here are the words! http://www.thinkverybig.com/We%20Must%20Change.htm

“Makes Me Wanna Cry” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD0iAQN7VPY

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Bad Seed Children
Posted by: greenPuker on Nov 7, 2008 8:21 AM   
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For almost eight years, somebody else's bad-seed children have run the political sandbox by black armband tactics.. You looked on in horror as they bullied by fists, smashed the playground, and even managed to throw sand in their own eyes. You email yelled at them (though they were heedless), and wondered where in the world their misbegotten parents had gone. Who in the world had raised these morally debased children. It was hard to dream and hope for a change with this much evil loose in the world.

Maybe the best thing about the election of Barack Obama is that two and a half months from now, those mad children will be gone. No, the damage they did is not irreparable. It will take time, but the excretory filth and damage these children have left WILL be cleaned, repaired and forgotten. We "elitist liberals" always revive our dreams of the good and possible.

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» RE: Bad Seed Children Posted by: cef
He ain't no FDR
Posted by: PakiBoy on Nov 7, 2008 10:31 AM   
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Joshua Frank talks about Obama's administration on Counterpunch:

Rahm Emanuel:
"Emanuel is a shameless neoliberal with close ties to the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), even co-authoring a strategy book with DLC president Bruce Reed. Without Emanuel, Bill Clinton would not have been able to thrust NAFTA down the throats of environmentalists and labor in the mid-1990s. Over the course of his career, Emanuel’s made it a point to cozy up to big business, making him one of the most effective corporate fundraisers in the Democratic Party. He’s also a staunch advocate of Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories."

In other words, no change...

Frank continues:
Emanuel’s shinning moment came in 2006 as he helped funnel money and poured ground support into the offices of dozens of conservative Democrats, expanding his party’s control of the House of Representatives. Emanuel, who supports the War on Terror, and expanding our presence in Afghanistan, worked hard to ensure that a Democratic House majority would not alter the course of US military objectives in the Middle East.

In short, Rahm Emanuel is not only a poor choice for Obama’s Chief of Staff; he’s one of the least progressive picks he could have made. While he may have decent views on abortion, tax policy, and social security, Emanuel’s broader vision is more of the same: war and corporate dominance.


Volker, Obama's potential pick for Secretaryof Treasury, Frank writes:
“[Volker] engineered a draconian shift in U.S. monetary policy. The long-standing commitment in the U.S. liberal democratic state to the principles of the New Deal, which meant broadly Keynesian fiscal and monetary policies with full employment as a key objective, was abandoned in favour of a policy designed to quell inflation no matter what the consequences might be for employment. The real rate of interest, which had often been negative during the double-digit inflationary surge of the 1970s, was rendered positive by fiat of the Federal Reserve. The nominal rate of interest was raised overnight … Thus began ‘a long deep recession that would empty factories and break unions in the U.S. and drive detour countries to the brink of insolvency, beginning a long-era of structural insolvency’. The Volker shock, as it has since come to be known, has to be interpreted as a necessary but not sufficient condition of neoliberalism.”

In supporting Henry Paulson’s bailout package, Volker would not re-regulate the banks nor provide more power to shareholders, he’s simply carry on one facet of neoliberalism: tightening federal budgets which inevitably will put great budgetary pressure on federal agencies.



The other potential choice is Robert effing Rubin. Rubin's claim to fame is that he played a central role in dismantling Glass-Steagall Act in concert with Phil Graham, Greenspan et al.

In other words, don't expect any change...

I voted for Obama, regretablly. I should have listened to my conscience!

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FDR Wasn't FDR
Posted by: Blueprelude on Nov 7, 2008 10:49 AM   
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Franklin D. Roosevelt only became the New Deal president we know from history because a desperate American public forced him to be. His own 1932 campaign revealed him as s fiscal conservative. Since this was a time when Communism was becoming more popular with larger numbers of people, Roosevelt had to go a different direction than the plutocracy-friendly presidents of the past.

Likewise, Obama will have to be pressured if Americans truly want a government responsive to the people. Otherwise, he will just serve the corporations and financial houses like every president has starting with Reagan. After all, Obama's biggest campaign contributor was Goldman Sachs. If we want him to be our president and not that of Goldman Sachs, we have to knock on his door en masse.

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» Exactly! Posted by: fanny666
» RE: FDR Wasn't FDR Posted by: Livemike
Rachel Maddow: Are we looking at Bill Clinton's third term?
Posted by: Mystery Solver on Nov 7, 2008 10:54 AM   
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"MSNBC's Rachel Maddow was particularly concerned on Thursday with Obama's selection of Rep. Rahm Emanuel, who worked in the Clinton White House, as his own White House chief of staff. She noted, "The Emanuel pick has also caused some confusion among those who thought change wasn't just a break with the Bush administration but also with the politics of the last 16 years."

Well, if ultra left-wing Rachel Maddow has concerns with Obama's questionable pick then perhaps you should start raising eybrows at Obama.

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» RE: Rachel Maddow... Posted by: Longdream
not if he appoints men like Emanuel!
Posted by: brianct on Nov 7, 2008 8:20 PM   
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On Smart Obamas dumb choice:

'Chief of Staff

Obama’s key White House position will go to Rep. Rahm Emanuel of Illinois. While Emanuel knows his way around the corridors of Washington, qualifying him in the traditional sense, this alone doesn’t mean he’s the guy you want drawing up Obama’s policy papers day after day.

For starters, Emanuel is a shameless neoliberal with close ties to the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), even co-authoring a strategy book with DLC president Bruce Reed. Without Emanuel, Bill Clinton would not have been able to thrust NAFTA down the throats of environmentalists and labor in the mid-1990s. Over the course of his career, Emanuel’s made it a point to cozy up to big business, making him one of the most effective corporate fundraisers in the Democratic Party. He’s also a staunch advocate of Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories.

Emanuel’s shinning moment came in 2006 as he helped funnel money and poured ground support into the offices of dozens of conservative Democrats, expanding his party’s control of the House of Representatives. Emanuel, who supports the War on Terror, and expanding our presence in Afghanistan, worked hard to ensure that a Democratic House majority would not alter the course of US military objectives in the Middle East.

In short, Rahm Emanuel is not only a poor choice for Obama’s Chief of Staff; he’s one of the least progressive picks he could have made. While he may have decent views on abortion, tax policy, and social security, Emanuel’s broader vision is more of the same: war and corporate dominance.'
Emanuel a poor choice

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CHECK OUT HIS CABINET APPPOINTMENTS
Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Nov 8, 2008 3:45 AM   
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THIS MAN IS ANOTHER MUSSOLINI FASCIST... FUCK THE REPUBLICRATS. THEY ARE CONTROLLED BY THE ENEMIES OF HUMANITY

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Well let's see...
Posted by: Livemike on Nov 9, 2008 1:38 AM   
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He's a Democrat so ignorant of economics that he doesn't know what the broken window fallacy is and therefore thinks the expenses of climate policy are revenues. So far much like FDR. He is ostensibily leftist but in the pay of the biggest moneybags around, two for two so far. He's inheriting the financial mess of an incredibliy incompetent and power-hungry Republican president that is being blamed for being too laissev-faire, in face of evidence that would make a creationalist throw in the towel. Three nil. He proposes spending his way out of a problem that you spent your way into and will be an economic disaster (although probably no bigger than McCain would have been). Four for four. And he's pretty much contemptous of the power of the supreme court to limit the president's power over economic issues FIVE STARS! Yes he CAN be FDR, you poor suckers.

Enjoy the extra decade of impoverishment just like you did under that dunderhead.

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» A Question Posted by: Last Chance
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» RE: A Question Posted by: Livemike
The last thing the economy needs is a new FDR
Posted by: GlennCraven on Nov 11, 2008 5:10 PM   
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The entire world experienced a depression during the 1930s, but it's been said that only the United States had FDR to make it "great."

Just a few years ago, two UCLA economists, Harold Cole and Lee Ohanian, published a study that suggests Roosevelt's New Deal policies caused the Great Depression to last seven years longer than it should have in the United States. By their analysis, the depression would have ended in 1936 had Roosevelt not artificially controlled prices and wages. By their calculations, while wages were 25 percent higher under Roosevelt than they would have been, prices were also 23 percent higher (there goes your wage hike), unemployment was 25 percent higher, and the Gross National Product was 27 percent lower.

Said Cole: "The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes. Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."

Read the summary here.

The fact that our recent economic collapse was precipitated largely by gross mismanagement of two pseudo-governmental agencies, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, is reason enough to question whether further government intervention is really the right way to get the economy rolling again.

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