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Good Thing We're Going to Have to Live with Less Stuff -- We'll Stay Alive on Earth for Longer That Way

By Stan Cox, AlterNet. Posted October 25, 2008.


If we scale down economic activity -- especially if the rich do -- we could all live in a cleaner world.

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As the most serious economic crisis in 80 years rolls across the planet, financial panic has shoved food shortages, public-health emergencies, and ecological disasters into the background. With fantastic fortunes at stake, the number-one priority of governments and businesses must be economic growth; those "green" initiatives announced not long ago with such fanfare have already been deferred or forgotten.

We Americans are now told that because our economy has been kept afloat for so long on borrowed money and borrowed time, "our" wealth and "our" jobs have gone to the other side of the globe, with India and China typically the scapegoats. We shouldn't cut our carbon emissions, we're told, until India and China cut back. If our food crops end up in landfills or petrol tanks, we're told, that doesn't affect hungry people; rather, eating habits in the Eastern Hemisphere are the real key to the food crisis. (For example, at the height of the early-2008 global food shortages, President George W. Bush said of India, "Their middle class is larger than our entire population. And when you start getting wealth, you start demanding better nutrition and better food. And so demand is high, and that causes the price to go up.")

In all such pronouncements, the message is consistent: "We in the West have gotten what we want. Now, if the rest of you try to do the same, you'll spoil things for everyone." Where I live, there appears to be little awareness of the grotesquely contorted positions that such arguments require their proponents to assume. I lived in India in the early 1980s and the late 1990s, married into an Indian family, and have returned for months at a time in recent years. I have cheered on those Indian citizens who are going against the grain, urging respect for nature and sufficiency for all, and showing how both can be achieved. That's in contrast to the model of the traditional industrial powers, which translates to efficiency for the few and deficiency for everyone else. But government and business elites, both East and West, continue working on the assumption that India, China, Brazil, and other emerging powers will follow the same destructive road to wealth that Europe, Japan, and America continue to travel.

Too much more of that lopsided growth will make this planet a very nasty place to live. If greenhouse-gas emissions are to be reduced to a level that will avert runaway global warming, economic activity will have to shrink, not grow.

According to a recent analysis by Minqi Li, economics professor at the University of Utah, the world economy must contract at a historically rapid clip -- at an annual rate of about –1 to –3.4 percent between now and 2050 -- if atmospheric carbon dioxide is to be held below 445 parts per million (ppm). That is the level at which we could run into a nightmare scenario in which warming could start feeding on itself in positive-feedback loops and lead to who knows what. Much deeper cuts are needed to get down to 350 ppm, at which the planet will remain in a familiar and comfortable condition.

The –1 to –3.4 percent economic reductions required just to reach the more modest goal of 445 ppm were computed by assuming a wide range of scenarios. That range in negative-growth estimates covers a range of scenarios going from dramatic to modest improvements in energy efficiency and alternative technologies. But in all scenarios, however rosy their assumptions, economic growth will have to be thrown into reverse or else. Everything depends on how that economic contraction is handled.

The US economy declined by about 55 percent in just four years at the start of the Great Depression, with the well-known catastrophic outcomes. At the -2 percent annual rate of contraction required by Professor Li's "medium-green" scenarios, economies would eventually shrink by an amount close to that Depression-era 55 percent, but over a period of more than 40 years, not four.

If economic activity is scaled down rationally, in a fair and humane way, requiring the biggest sacrifices from the most affluent, we could all live in a better, cleaner world. But when recession-plagued economies contract chaotically, prompting governments and industries to cast about for new ways to restore rapid capital accumulation, almost everyone's environment deteriorates.

There is still time to cure the malignant economic growth that we've unleashed, but the solution won't come from those people and institutions that have managed to wreck both the global economy and the global ecology. A new way of thinking and acting will have to come from the bottom up, and from both hemispheres of this ailing planet. We'd should be ready; the unsettled times that lie ahead may offer the opening we've been looking for.

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Stan Cox is a plant breeder and writer living in Salina, Kansas. This article is taken from the foreword to a new Indian edition of his book Sick Planet: Corporate Food and Medicine, to be published in January by HarperCollins-India.

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Zero Population Growth
Posted by: stilldreaming on Oct 25, 2008 2:58 AM   
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I seek out Mr. Cox articles, and I like his style. His reports about farming are informative, well written.

Scaling down the economy in a controlled way, conducive to sustainability in the long run, is a good thing.

But why not address the need to scale down the human population growth rates?! Globally, humans are quite unwilling to voluntarily live sparsely in order to accomodate population growth.

An optimal human population, able to sustain a modern economy and modern living standards, with maximum individual freedoms has been estimated to be about 2-3 billions. Like in the 1960's. We are now 6.5 billion, going towards 9 billion.

So what do we want: Birth Control (voluntary, supported by education) or drastic population reduction by famine, war, disease, and by human-caused climate change and polution and depletion of natural resources ?!

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» How about NPG? Posted by: socialpsych
» Hunh?! Posted by: Last Chance
» I'm with socialpsych.. Posted by: NoKidding
Nice article
Posted by: socialpsych on Oct 25, 2008 3:19 AM   
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Thank you, Stan Cox!

Nine years ago, at age 45, I fled the metro Philadelphia area for a low-impact rural lifestyle and haven't looked back. I use less electricity and less water than the average for Americans. I drive less than most Americans (usually not at all on days that I don't have to go to work--I am lucky that I can do some work at home). I don't use gasoline-powered tools. And I eat a low-fat organic vegan diet. Even my dogs (from shelters) eat veggies! I have enough acreage to grow a portion of my food needs. I am always striving to find new ways to do things and to do with less. "Be here now" is my mantra, and it seems to work just fine.

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» RE: Nice article Posted by: Zeugitai
Greenhouse gas emissions include flying
Posted by: Beck on Oct 25, 2008 5:08 AM   
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"If greenhouse-gas emissions are to be reduced to a level that will avert runaway global warming, economic activity will have to shrink, not grow."

If greenhouse-gas emissions are to be reduced to a level that will avert runaway global warming, we have to give up the idea that we can fly as much as we want, wherever and whenever we want. It seems odd that so often an environmental book or magazine article will contain alot of good ideas and information, but also reveal that the author flies quite a bit. Barbara Kingsolver's Animal, Vegetable, Miracle comes to mind. Climate change is mentioned quite a few times, but so is air travel. The author of this article seems to fly back and forth from India often.

Here's something from David Suzuki's website:

"Compared to other modes of transport, such as driving or taking the train, travelling by air has a greater climate impact per passenger kilometer, even over longer distances. It’s also the mode of freight transport that produces the most emissions."

And this:

"When jet fuel is burned, the carbon in the fuel is released and bonds with oxygen (O2) in the air to form carbon dioxide (CO2). Burning jet fuel also releases water vapour, nitrous oxides, sulphate, and soot. Aircraft emissions trigger the formation of contrails (condensation trails), and contribute to the formation of cirrus clouds.

"A special characteristic of aircraft emissions is that most of them are produced at cruising altitudes high in the atmosphere. Scientific studies have shown that these high-altitude emissions have a more harmful climate impact because they trigger a series of chemical reactions and atmospheric effects that have a net warming effect. The IPCC, for example, has estimated that the climate impact of aircraft is two to four times greater than the effect of their carbon dioxide emissions alone."

The environmentalists I know fly no less, some of them more, than people I know who don't think of themselves as environmentalists. I often wonder why this mental split exists, why we're in denial about this.

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» Excellent point Posted by: socialpsych
» Tourism is the new product Posted by: Cathyc
» I Agree, but Posted by: Jim Shaw
Less = Good
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 25, 2008 6:02 AM   
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Less stuff is good. People need to concentrate LESS on "stuff" and MORE on making the country a better place to live. Seems logical to me.

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Why Do Economists and Politicians Say "GROW THE ECONOMY !"
Posted by: Last Chance on Oct 25, 2008 6:20 AM   
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Because that's how they keep the big dollars coming in to pay their debts and finance their wealthy lifestyles. Otherwise, the falling rate of profit per-product would not support their country estates, mansions, yachts and extended vacations around the World, and an exclusive education for their children. So, the banks must extend credit to more new enterprises every year to "keep the ball rolling" because "a growing economy is a healthy economy".

But that growing economy must have a growing population to do the work and buy the products or the new factories, houses and shopping malls would stand empty and profitless. Therefore, a growing economy cannot be seperated from a growing population. The one cannot exist without the other.

This would be an idyllic scenario if only planet Earth would obligingly grow right along with this ever-growing population and its ever-expanding industrial complex. But instead the Earth is slowly cooling and shrinking, as it has from the beginning of our solar system -- just the opposite of what is needed!

So, what do big business investors do? Ignore it, deny it, and peer deep into outer space to find more living planets to conquer and devour. Unfortunately, a living planet is hard to find and even harder to reach. Thus, not only does such a corporate venture fail, it leads to ecocide and self-extinction as the Earth fills up with ever-growing tons of pollution it cannot absorb and recycle.

Consequently, it is no longer a question of how to grow the economy, but how to save the Earth and the lives of our children and grandchildren.

To survive, we need a stable population and a stable economy that lives in balance with the Earth's ability to support us. And the simplest way to accomplish that is to do six things:

1. To reduce the human population, give each woman the legally protected right to decide if and when to birth her children. A few will choose many children, but more will choose none, while the great majority will decide on no more than one, two or three. That way the population will decline to a number in balance with each community's natural environment.

2. Recycle 100% of all waste and garbage. Throw nothing away because there is no "away". Everything that is on the Earth stays on the Earth forever.

3. Devolve human society to regional and continental networks of eco-tech villages that each grow their own food, build their own houses, sew their own clothes, tend their own ilnesses, plan their own families, home school their own children, and freely trade with each other while carefully surrounding themselves with miles of healthy wilderness.

4. Encourage education in the arts and sciences as the most important avocation of every citizen.

5. Whatever technology is appropriate for such a network of villages should be embraced, developed and extended, but with harm to none.

6. This entire global establishment should be self-governed under the general principles of the U.S. Constitution and Bill Of Rights and the United Nations Charter, each area free to interpret the laws according to the needs of their own people, but always with harm to none.

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» "GROW THE ECONOMY !" Posted by: Cathyc
» Too late or not -- Posted by: Last Chance
The Problem of Trading Labor for Energy
Posted by: Jim Shaw on Oct 25, 2008 6:36 AM   
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Good article, but I think that we're going to save the planet and make life worth living for the masses, we need major structural changes in our economy.

A huge problem is the way we've traded human labor for energy. This is perhaps the greatest reason for our affluence, but it also is driving global heating, dampening wages for working people, and (most importantly) causing us to have to produce gobs-and-gobs of crap we don't need just to keep people working.

Of course, we'll need to do all sorts of other things - green the energy supply, modify our diets, change the way we construct buildings, cut our population, learn to work with nature instead of against it, etc., but if we're going to produce less, we really need to think about what that means for labor.

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» Wage Labor and Capital Posted by: Last Chance
» egalitarian communities Posted by: stilldreaming
» RE: egalitarian communities Posted by: Last Chance
» It can only start on a small scale Posted by: Last Chance
Alan Greenspan, their economic sage fucked up
Posted by: Lauren on Oct 25, 2008 8:07 AM   
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Greenspan Concedes Error on Regulation

Mr. Greenspan admitted that he had put too much faith in the self-correcting power of free markets and had failed to anticipate the self-destructive power of wanton mortgage lending.

“Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity, myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief,” he told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.


Why did I see this and he didn't? I just don't understand that. I do not believe I was the only one to see this big huge glaring flaw, so I have a really hard time believing that he believed all his own fumes all along. Really? Really was he fooled?

Maybe he forgot to factor in the money laundering from the drug war and illegal arms for hostages sort of stuff. Did he never read about the CIA? I mean, come on, how is this believable?

“You had the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis. You were advised to do so by many others,” said Representative Henry A. Waxman of California, chairman of the committee. “Do you feel that your ideology pushed you to make decisions that you wish you had not made?”

Mr. Greenspan conceded: “Yes, I’ve found a flaw. I don’t know how significant or permanent it is. But I’ve been very distressed by that fact.”


Found a flaw? A flaw? Like fraud he was looking the other way about? I don't think he found it, I think it found him.

As far back as 1994, Mr. Greenspan staunchly and successfully opposed tougher regulation on derivatives.

By 2004, a growing number of economists were warning that a speculative bubble in home prices and home construction was under way, which posed the risk of a housing bust.

Mr. Greenspan brushed aside worries about a potential bubble, arguing that housing prices had never endured a nationwide decline and that a bust was highly unlikely.

Mr. Greenspan, along with most other banking regulators in Washington, also resisted calls for tighter regulation of subprime mortgages and other high-risk exotic mortgages that allowed people to borrow far more than they could afford.

“Whatever regulatory changes are made, they will pale in comparison to the change already evident in today’s markets,” he said. “Those markets for an indefinite future will be far more restrained than would any currently contemplated new regulatory regime.”


See he is telling us it was OK that he rigged the system to fail because the market will take care of everything.

His attitude is that of a rich man, he has never been hungry. Everyone should go hungry at least one day in their life so they will know what it is like.

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» MSM glorifys the Ugly Posted by: weathered
This ain't gonna happen...voluntarily
Posted by: Zeugitai on Oct 25, 2008 10:57 AM   
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The rich are progressively going to be the only people able to afford and maintain a comfortable life, and they will. No rich person will voluntarily give up anything for the teeming masses of poor people in the world. They didn't get rich by being charitable. They will go on acquiring multiple mansions and vehicles, they will live offshore outside of national laws on ships and boats, they will maintain private security forces to secure their persons and wealth, etc. They will soon be the only people who can afford to fill their gas tanks. The rest of the population will indeed have to live with less, and less, and less. This is actually the inevitable result of the "system" that Americans live by. So, yes, go ahead and learn to live with less, with nothing if you can. Enjoy your life, too, if you can. You don't exist to the rich, and if they bothered to notice your forced asceticism, they would only laugh.

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A step in the right direction...
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Oct 25, 2008 11:39 AM   
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Now that we have firmly established that the so-called geniuses of the past (Greenspan, etc.) were merely blowhards and liars, and as Ron Paul has also said, the monetary system is a purposefully fraudulent, let's look beyond the latest debacle to seek the truth. The problem is the existence of money, period. These problems wouldn't occur in civilization built around wisdom and cooperation. On the other hand, they are unavoidable where profit is a way of life.

So, why should all of humanity be forced to suffer and struggle any longer now that the entire global financial system has been exposed as a mind-boggling deception within many other deceptions? No one in their right mind would continue to be enslaved by a proven deception, which is also proven to be undeniable slavery-by-proxy !!!

Here is Wisdom...

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There IS an almost magical solution to 40% of our CO2 problem.
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 25, 2008 12:16 PM   
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"Power to Save the World; The Truth About Nuclear Energy" by Gwyneth
Cravens, 2007 Finally a truthful book about nuclear power. Gwyneth Cravens
is a former anti-nuclear activist.

Page 13 has a chart of greenhouse gas emissions from electricity production.
Nuclear power produces less greenhouse gas [CO2] than any other source,
including coal, natural gas, hydro, solar and wind. Building wind turbines and
towers also involve industrial processes such as concrete and steel making.

Nuclear power plants produce a total of 30 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour, the
lowest. This is the full life cycle CO2 output. There are no hidden CO2 outputs.

Wind turbines produce a total of 58 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour.

Solar power produces between 100 and 280 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour.

Hydro power produces 240 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour.

Natural gas produces between 439 and 688 grams of CO2 per kilowatt hour.

Coal plants produce the most, between 966 and 1306 grams of CO2 per kilowatt
hour, the highest.

Remember the total is the sum of direct emissions from burning fuel and indirect
emissions from the life cycle, which means the industrial processes required to
build it. Again, nuclear comes in the lowest. Nuclear would produce even less
CO2 per kilowatt hour if the safety were lowered to the same level as other
sources of electricity. Switching from coal to nuclear is a 97% reduction in
electricity's 40% of our CO2 output. The refereed scenarios from the IPCC
failed to hold the CO2 down to 450 parts per million. You can't without building
something like 10,000 new nuclear power plants world wide to replace every coal
fired power plant on the planet. The 10,000 includes replacing all Generation 1
[Chernobyl style] power plants with safe American Generation 4 technology.
Let's get it done.

Page 211: In 2005, the production cost of electricity from:

nuclear power on average cost 1.72 cents per kilowatt-hour 1.00 times nuclear's
price. This is the full and total price. There are no hidden costs. There are no
subsidies. There are no tricks. 1.72 cents per kilowatt-hour is all of it.
[Supposed subsidies cover the cost caused by irrational protesters. That is a cost
of civil order, not a cost of nuclear power. The price would be lower if the safety
level were lowered to equal other sources of electricity.]

from coal-fired plants 2.21 cents per kilowatt-hour 1.28 times nuclear's price

from natural gas 7.5 cents per kilowatt-hour 4.36 times nuclear's price

from oil 8.09 cents per kilowatt-hour 4.7 times nuclear's price

Wind fits in here.

solar in a sunny place 22 to 40 cents per kilowatt-hour 12.79 to 23.26 times
nuclear's price

American nuclear power reactors operated in 2005 around the clock
at about 90 percent capacity

geothermal plants operated at 75 percent capacity

coal-fired plants operated at about 73 percent capacity

hydroelectric plants at 29 percent capacity

natural gas from 16 to 38 percent capacity

wind at 27 percent capacity

solar at 19 percent capacity

[Batteries not included but required for wind and solar. Why did wind and solar
operate so far below capacity? Simple: Wind power never works when the
wind isn't blowing. Solar only works at maximum during the noon hour. Wave
power only works when the waves are the right height.]

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Would colonizing DEAD planets and moons be OK with you?
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 25, 2008 12:25 PM   
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I notice that not a single other poster thought of getting off of earth. There is a
new frontier and we HAVE to go there. It is Space, the high and infinite
frontier. One 2.5 mile in diameter iron asteroid contains $35 TRILLION worth
of metals. How's that for economics? We can expand almost forever, or at least
for millions of years, if we colonize our whole galaxy. There is no moral
dilemma and no environmental dilemma in expanding into space. The Space
Elevator used to be science fiction, but now there is a serious attempt to build it.
Take a look at the space elevator at www.liftport.com.
Also take a look at the "Cosmological Forecast" at
jetpress.org/volume12/CosmologicalForecast.htm. According to the
Cosmological Forecast, for every century we delay the onset of Galactic
colonization, there will be 5 times 10 exponent 46 fewer human lifetimes
between now and the time the galaxy dies. That is 5 followed by 46 "0"s. Our
population explosion may be allowed to continue as long as it happens in space,
not on earth. The solar system as a whole can support 10 times as many people
as earth alone. [If we build a Dyson Sphere, the multiple is much larger.] Once
we have filled the solar system, we can move on to the Centauri Cluster. We
should even take enough people off of the earth to reduce the population of earth.
Note that evolution will occur. Space is a harsh place where stupidity will be
rewarded with instant death.

Check out http://lifeboat.com. Some of us are working on surviving in space
while the rest of you undergo your ecological disaster. We can repopulate earth
much later.

We have to colonize space for another reason. In only 33,000 years, Proxima
Centauri, a red dwarf star, will enter our Oort Cloud, causing a period of "Heavy
Bombardment." Earth will be struck by giant impactors like the one that killed
the dinosaurs unless we humans are out there preventing it. We are the only
possible defenders Mother Earth can hope for. We have to do it. When
Proxima Centauri enters our Oort Cloud, that would be an ideal time to colonize
the Centauri Cluster if we have not done so before then. Waiting for another star
to pass by is a slow way to colonize the galaxy, but light speed propulsion is not
required.

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» Dead planets don't support life. Posted by: Last Chance
» Mars Is The Single Exception Posted by: Last Chance
Stan Cox: The answer is:
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 26, 2008 11:37 AM   
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Stan Cox: The answer is:
1. A little depression will do almost nothing to our CO2 output.
A little depression will make a short term dip in the rate of
increase in our CO2 production, but 40% of our CO2 is made by
burning coal to make electricity. We are not going to use less
electricity just because of a depression.
2. 445 parts per million CO2 is too high because natural positive
feedbacks have already started. The tundra is melting, releasing
methane and the Arctic Ocean is releasing methane. That proves
that 380 parts per million CO2 is too much. At least a major
famine and a fall of civilization are almost guaranteed already.
There is no time or money to waste on any project other than
lowering CO2 output by converting from coal to nuclear.
3. Population control isn't going to happen until a major kill off
happens. War, famine, disease, etc. are the only things that will
reduce the human population or slow the growth of the human
population. So who are you planning to exterminate?

The answer is that we have to take drastic measures to reduce our
CO2 output IN SPITE OF the depression. The alternatives are
the fall of civilization, killing 99.99% of all humans, and an
extinction event that kills 100% of all humans on earth. If the
latter happens, our only hope of avoiding total extinction is a self-
sustaining colony on Mars before that happens. Note that the
colony on Mars will include 20 or fewer people. 100% of them
will have post-doctoral degrees in science.

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» RE: Stan Cox: The answer is: Posted by: richholland
George W. Bush and the Religious Right are choosing extinction.
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Oct 26, 2008 11:46 AM   
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The US government may be in the process of falling already due to climate change.

Downloaded from:
Six Degrees

'Six steps to hell' - summary of Six Degrees as published in the Guardian
23 April 07:

1ºC Nebraska ...shortened... These innocuous-looking hills were once desert, part
of an immense system of sand dunes that spread across the Great Plains from
Texas in the south to the Canadian prairies in the north. Six thousand years ago,
when temperatures were about 1C warmer than today in the US, these deserts
may have looked much as the Sahara does today. ....shortened... devastating
agriculture and driving out human inhabitants on a scale far larger than the 1930s
“Dustbowl” exodus.....shortened...

Reference Book: "The Long Summer, How Climate Changed Civilization" by
Brian Fagan, 2004 Basic Books, ISBN 0-465-02281-2
Summary: Smaller climate changes than we have caused already, caused the fall
of many civilizations.

When there is no food, there is no civilization.

Reference Book: "Collapse, How Societies Choose to Fail or Succeed" by Jared
Diamond. 99.99% of all people in the collapsing civilization die, including the
richest. Hunting the neighbors as food happens. We really really don't want to
go there.

George W. Bush and the Religious Right are choosing extinction.

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For sale: one stairway to heaven
Posted by: Sojourner on Oct 26, 2008 2:09 PM   
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When everything’s for sale and no one is buying: what’s left? That’s the question I wish we’d ask ourselves all the time. We have settled for values whose only justification is that they sell.

When a Ralph Nader comes along and starts to talk about the common good, he’s quickly shouted down by the folks who cannot yet figure a way to peddle the common good. If it’s “common,” who will want to buy it?

We will sell you not only vehicles and entertainment, we will sell you indentured servants, body parts, and phony junk. Money not only talks, it screams.

Money is simply a convenience, but it has the power to sneak up on people and tell them what decisions to make. The Congress motivates with subsidies and grants. The rich live their lives according to the tax laws. Home builders give us McMansions because a big house is more profitable for them than one everyone can afford. They can make more money selling phony luxury.

We learned all of that in the Great Depression of the 1930s. However, the Party of Memory who have tried to prove FDR was wrong keep making the same mistakes over and over---aided and abetted by dumbed-down voters, to be sure.

It’s an old saw but a good saw—those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. History? Who wants to study history when we could be out shopping until we drop?

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PLEASE CUT ASTEROID MINER OFF!!
Posted by: edgeofnowhere on Oct 26, 2008 4:49 PM   
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Why is this person allowed to babble endlessly about the joys of nuclear power? Can't you cut him back to a page or two?

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Support Madonna...
Posted by: richholland on Oct 26, 2008 8:28 PM   
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as mentioned before in one of the comments;
we need economic growth to allow the rich landlords and noblemen to live in their castlles.

i.e ten years ago I came in the hills of northern thailand and the LISU lived in their straw houses, little money, corn fields, one piq in the stable and some chickens.
The TV in the church, as wel as the telefone;

NOW;
stone houses, mobile telefones...big cars..tv.
before a girl made a beautifull dress once a year for NEW year.
NOW;
many men have to work abroad, young girls into prostitution

The choice is community or slavery of reptile capitalisme.
Enjoy your dinner at McDonalds and buy Madonna DVD at Walmart.

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"De wereld gaat aan vlijt ten onder"
Posted by: Hans B on Oct 27, 2008 3:21 PM   
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That's the title of a 1960s Dutch novel by Max Dendermonde. The content of the book was pretty bad, actually, leading me to suspect that the author practised what he preached, but the title was brilliant. It translates something like this: "The world is destroyed by hard work." True then, even more true today.

Actually I agree with the previous commenter who said it's too late now to simply reduce emissions through negative growth; we have to stop emissions entirely. Still, negative growth can be a factor, particularly if it translates into more time with the family, more time to enjoy nature (or what's left of it), and more time to think.

In any case GDP is a terrible way to measure human happiness.

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SAVE THE PLANET - STEAL BACK THE VOTE
Posted by: cori on Oct 28, 2008 6:32 PM   
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1. Don’t don’t don’t Mail In Your Ballot-unless... or those of you who mailed in your ballot, please tell me, what happened to it? You don’t know, do you? I can tell you that officially, three-fourths of a million absentee ballots were never counted last time, on the weakest of technical excuses. And you won’t even know it. Furthermore, tens of thousands of ballots are not mailed out to voters in time to return them - in which case you’re out of luck. Most states won’t let you vote in-precinct once you’ve applied to vote absentee. Every time I hear of a voter going “absentee” to avoid computer screens, I want to “go postal” myself.
But don’t throw out your ballot if you have a mail-in. Either mail it in, making sure to include ID if required (you first-time voters) or, better, WALK it into your county clerk’s office.2. Vote Early...very early
Every state now lets voters cast ballots in designated polling stations and at county offices in the weeks before Election Day. Do it. Don’t wait until Election Day to find out you have the wrong ID, your registration’s “inactive,” or you’re on a challenge list. By Election Day, there’s little to do but hold up the line. 3. Register and Register and Register
Think you’re registered to vote? Think again. With all this purg’n going on, you could be x’d out and you won’t know it. Check online with your Secretary of State’s office or call your County Board of Elections. Then register your girlfriend, your wife, your mailman and your mommy. Contact the Rainbow PUSH Coalition, the League of Women Voters, and your local party organization, and commit to a couple of days of door-to-door registration, especially in minority neighborhoods or at social service agency offices. And if you’ve served the time, you can sign: in almost every state, ex-cons can vote. 4. Vote Unconditionally, Not Provisionally
In 2008, they’ll be handing out provisional ballots like candy, especially to Hispanic voters. If your right to vote is challenged, don’t accept a provisional ballot that will likely not get counted no matter what the sweet little lady at the table tells you. She won’t decide; partisan sharks will. Demand adjudication from poll judges on the spot; demand a call to the supervisor of elections; or return with acceptable ID if possible. Defend the rights of others. If you’ve taken Step 1 above and voted early, you have Election Day free to be a poll watcher. Run into trouble¬-you’ve been caged or purged or challenged-call Election Protection at 1-(866) OUR-VOTE. Then challenge the challengers, the weird guys with Blackberrys containing lists of “suspect” voters. Be firm, but no biting.
5. Occupy Ohio, Invade Nevada Take the resistance door-to-door-to register the vote, to canvass the voters, to get out the vote. Donate time to your union (if you’re not in a union, why not?) or to the troublemakers I’ve already listed here and on our site. This may seem a stupendously unoriginal suggestion, but I know of no other method more effective for confronting the armed and dangerous junta that has seized the White House.
6. never vote alone. As our sponsor, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, says, make a date to ‘Arrive with Five.’ And keep this comic book in your holster - with our 800 numbers and your photo ID in your hand. And Bobby, make sure your ID says, “Robert Kennedy JUNIOR” or your vote is toast. 7. Make the Democracy Demand: No Vote Left “Count the votes.” You can have all the paper ballots in the world, but if you don’t demand to look at them, publicly, in a recount, you might as well mark them with invisible ink. Democracy requires vigilance The Day After. That’s when you check in at www.stealbackyourvote.org one more time.

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The rich are giving up nothing
Posted by: vertical on Oct 28, 2008 7:28 PM   
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Sure we could live in a healthier world if the rich stop living high on the hog, but that will never happen. For instance, Mr. Rutan is developing a commercial spaceship, Mr. Branson is going take Mr. Rutan's spaceships to create Galactic Spacelines, and Mr. Bigalow is working on an orbatil hotel so the wealthy will have a destination up there. How much greenhouse gases is it going to take for Angelina and Brad to be the first celebraties to fuck in zero Gs?

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