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Will Right-Wingers Stand in the Way of the Bailout "Main Street" Desperately Needs?

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted October 24, 2008.


For a tenth of the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we could help rescue the "nuts and bolts" economy in which most Americans work and live.

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There's a fight brewing between the conservative movement's bitter dead-enders -- ideologues clinging desperately to their discredited rhetoric about "limited government" -- and progressives, joined by most economic experts from across the political spectrum.

At issue is whether or not to spend as much as one-tenth of the projected costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars to help rescue the real "nuts and bolts" economy in which most Americans work and live.

Washington lawmakers were able to find more than $700 billion -- in addition to the $900 billion they had already spent this year -- to bail out the ailing financial sector. But that cash won't do anything to stave off the intense economic pain that ordinary Americans are already feeling and which most experts agree is likely to get much worse in the coming months and years.

For that, we need a bailout for the rest of us: a major spending program on public infrastructure that will put the unemployed to work; desperately needed funds for a tattered social safety net that will be sorely tested as we work our way through the economic crisis; aid to states and municipalities that are seeing their revenues crash and new protections for those who had built a nest-egg for retirement only to see a good chunk of it vanish in a poof of smoke.

It's not just an economic necessity but a moral imperative. We're experiencing a profoundly injurious economic meltdown that was created by the excesses of the wealthy but will be felt hardest by everyone else. According to Kiplinger Forecasts, "economic pain will be spread unevenly" over the next couple of years, with defense contractors, health care providers and "data providers, accountants and lawyers hired to man the massive federal rescue plan" doing just fine. Everyone else? Well, the news is bleak.

Industrial production has dropped in seven of the last eight months; the economy shed 159,000 jobs last month -- the highest number in five years -- and when you include people who are "involuntarily" working part-time because there are no full-time gigs available, and those who have been unable to find a job for an extended period, more than 1 in 10 Americans are struggling to find the work they need to stay afloat. One in six American homes are now "underwater" -- with more debt attached to them than they're worth on the market -- and the Congressional Budget Office estimates that $2 trillion in retirement savings has evaporated in the past year and a half. That estimate was made when the Dow Jones Industrial Average was around 11,000; it was under 8,500 as of the time of this writing.

When George W. Bush and his Treasury secretary, former Goldman Sachs CEO Hank Paulson, were pushing Congress to pass their plan -- 200 economists thought precipitously -- they used the Iraq War strategy, arguing that inaction posed an imminent threat to the security of the United States. They said that while a ton of new deficit spending was a tough pill for the taxpayers to swallow, not pulling the trigger would lead the crisis, using the clichés of the day, to spread quickly from "Wall Street" to "Main Street."

They were half right; "Main Street" had already been in crisis, and the financial sector's crack-up has made matters worse. Now we face the prospect of a vicious cycle in the "real" economy, with firms that are unable to secure the credit they need to function and grow laying off workers, which will create a climate in which people spend less, which will cause a drop in demand for everything a capitalist system produces, which will cause further economic contraction. Meanwhile, homes are being lost, and state and local budget revenues are plunging, which will lead to more layoffs of public employees, more lost homes, less tax revenues for local governments, etc. That will mean cuts for vital social programs at the exact time when people need them most. It's not a hypothetical scenario -- it's already happening across the United States.

That's why a bailout of the rest of the economy is not just an ideological matter -- "spreading the wealth" -- but an economic imperative: We've got to prop up people as well as institutions in this dark period in order to maintain demand for the goods and services the economy produces. The Bush administration's massive cash infusion into the banks, combined with other actions by the Fed and by foreign governments, might just help unfreeze jammed credit markets, but the private sector is grinding to a halt nonetheless, and that means the public sector is one of very few potential buyers out there these days, and the only one with any credit left to tap.

This is classic economic theory and shouldn't be controversial. But a proposal by Congressional Democrats for a relatively modest plan to fix long-neglected roads and other public infrastructure, extend unemployment benefits and eligibility for food stamps and help out cash-strapped local governments is facing stiff resistance from many conservatives in Washington.

Bush, who had promised to veto a second stimulus package (but may now be softening to the idea), told reporters this week that Americans' economic anxiety had begun to subside. "I have heard that people's attitudes are beginning to change from a period of, you know, intense concerns and, I would call it, near panic to being more relaxed," Bush said. He added that Americans are "beginning to see the effects of changes" in the financial markets and "the attitude here is a little different than it might have been a week ago."

Jarringly out of touch? You bet, but he's not alone. House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, described the Democratic proposal as a "big government boondoggle." And John McCain has been out on the stump promising to heal the nation's wounded economy through a freeze on spending.

The reality is that the Democrats' proposal -- about equal to the cost of 12 of the 66 months (and counting) that we've occupied Iraq -- isn't nearly big enough. America needs to rally around the idea of a "green recovery" -- investing in new energy sources -- and do more to keep homeowners in their houses. And we need to take care of the elderly, many of whom have seen their retirement accounts decimated in the meltdown. We should be investing in education and health care -- in our "human capital" -- and those investments should be on par with what Congress has been all too willing to lavish on the banking industry.

Conservatives -- many of whom are thrilled with "welfare queens" of the corporate variety -- are whining about how this kind of stimulus amounts to "socialism." It's their latest act of rhetorical desperation.

So, instead of throwing a life preserver to a middle class that has suffered a long economic assault, House Republicans, along with their party's nominee, favor slashing corporate taxes, cutting capital gains taxes and then maybe sending a modest stimulus check to American taxpayers so they can buy some crap at Wal-Mart.

There are two problems with that approach. The first is that a check for a few hundred dollars gets used up quickly and then is gone, whereas investing in infrastructure, including new energy infrastructure, creates new jobs. As economist Jared Bernstein, who is consulting with House Democrats, put it: "People need jobs more than they need checks."

The second is that the conservatives' "stimulus" is based on ideology rather than on what gives the economy the biggest bang for the buck. This graphic from the Economic Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank, illustrates just how wrong the Right's approach really is:

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For each dollar you spend on tax cuts for Big Business, you get 30 cents worth of stimulus; a dollar cutting capital gains boosts the economy by less than 40 cents, but putting a dollar into the pockets of people at the lower end of the economic ladder gets you more than a buck worth of economic activity in return.

Ultimately, this debate represents a "teachable moment" -- an opportunity to argue, forcefully, that deficit spending is neither inherently good nor bad; it depends on what it's for. When Bush was pushing for tax cuts for the wealthiest and calling it a "stimulus package" -- despite the fact that Nobel Prize-winning economists were saying it would have no beneficial effect on the larger economy -- that was deficit spending that hurt America. Pumping money into the brick-and-mortar economy to keep it afloat, repairing our creaky national infrastructure, investing in cleaner energy and keeping people from going hungry are exactly the kind of things that we should do, deficit or not.

Unfortunately, the idea that the financial meltdown is going to force spending cuts, regardless of who wins the November elections -- the opposite of what the doctor should be ordering as the economy slips deeper into recession -- has seeped into our discourse. Recall the debate between McCain and Barack Obama in which moderator Jim Lehrer insisted that the candidates explain what proposals they'd give up because of budget constraints. Economist John Irons calls it a "false fiscal dilemma," explaining that "not only are (dire) assessments of next year's deficit intentionally and wildly overstated, but the actual deficit being considered is actually appropriate and necessary given our current circumstances. In fact, the levels of national debt that would result from an economic stimulus (of even a substantial size) are clearly manageable and consistent with a growing economy." (Also see former Labor Secretary Robert Reich's "Deficit Shackles: Will January 2009 Repeat January 1993?")

The coming weeks and months will determine whether we make the moves necessary to stave off a financial crash of 1932 proportions, or indulge in what columnist Matthew Yglesias dubbed "neo-Hooverism."

According to the Washington Post, "Unless the White House agrees to negotiations to assemble a package that could win GOP votes and the president's signature, (Speaker Nancy) Pelosi is unlikely to move forward until the next administration takes office." That means that after rushing as much as a $1 trillion to bail out the financial sector, the rescue we need for our real economy is on hold until the bitter dead-enders of the "Reagan Revolution" are swept from power.

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Rose Colored Glasses
Posted by: bryangalt on Oct 24, 2008 1:41 AM   
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It is apparent that the Republican's are looking through rose colored glasses at a world that is utter fantasy.

My Representative is Devin Nunes (R) CA 21st District. He does not support helping American's who are on their financial knees and his office told me that giving unemployment extensions was tantamount to giving "lazy people a vacation."

All this while Cindy McCain parades around in $300,000 outfits and Sara Palin getting $150,000 in clothing allowances, it reminds me of the Marie Antonet fable of late 18th century France, when she is alleged to say "let them eat cake" while the peasant folks were starving in the streets.

How can anyone vote for a person that does not support or desire to save our great nation from the bottom up...

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This is the big one
Posted by: georgiaorwell on Oct 24, 2008 2:23 AM   
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Mr. Holland, excellent article, but I believe Republicans who espouse their far right-wing ideologies must have been born with some kind of extra chromosome or mutant gene. They are convinced, in their zest to control the country at all costs, that name-calling and lies are just a means to an end - their end or agenda. I thought the 70s were supposed to be the Me Generation, but the current Republicans have clearly proven that they don't care about ANYTHING - the environment, healthcare, infrastructure - if it doesn't benefit them financially, they simply don't. care.

Bush = McCain/Palin: Country Last ...or the Smears for Fears Express

It should be blatantly obvious (as it is to Republican strategists and administrations) that war-time Presidents acquire considerably more power than non-war Presidents. This whole game has nothing to do with the betterment of our country - it has everything to do with unlimited Executive power on the march to fascism and the new world order of the upper 1%. Sure, if you spent the money on the American people (middle class, etc.) and infrastructure, how does that benefit the industrial/corporate/military factions that currently are bankrupting the country - financially and emotionally. When McCain sings "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran," he knows that he would have 1000 x regular powers of POTUS if he were a war-time Pres.; It worked for Bush and it would work for him.

This is the most important election in this country's history - I just hope that all Americans who care about rational thinking will be vigilant about voting and that Obama's people are able to circumvent the dirty tricks that the Republicans are so proud of engaging in at the Polls.

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» RE: This is the big one Posted by: cultureindustries
An ignoble neo-nobility
Posted by: Last Chance on Oct 24, 2008 4:39 AM   
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Right-wing Republicans are wanna-be aristocrats who hate democracy and its social safety net and plot every day to bankrupt and erase it, and if they can, they will steal this election for their Republican candidates and drive the American people back down into wage and chattel slavery.
For that purpose they intend the economic recession to become a permanent depression from which the people never emerge except as servants to upper class supremacy.

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» Dictionary definitions Posted by: Last Chance
Once again, Holland has written an alarming but necessary article.
Posted by: USAFVeteran1966 on Oct 24, 2008 5:35 AM   
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After reading Joshua's excellent piece, I came to the conclusion that a depression is unavoidable.

Why? Because during bad times, most people reduce unnecessary expenditures -- such as buying new cars -- which will make matters worse in a consumer-driven economy.

Iraq and Afghanistan aside, excessive credit card debt, skyrocketing medical expenses, declining home values, increasing unemployment and little room for lowering interest rates won't help things, either.

Vietnam vet/Obama supporter
Eight reasons to vote against John McCain

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» It looks like you're right Posted by: Last Chance
» Great article, Josh! Posted by: fanny666
We could save 3X more money and 25X more American lives
Posted by: bthespoon on Oct 24, 2008 5:37 AM   
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...simply by nationalizing health insurance while keeping medical care private (compared to what we could save by elimiating the costs of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq, that is). Doing both would save even more.

Uniting all Americans into one protective health coverage pool under one set of non-discriminatory rules would save us over $350 Billion in administrative costs alone (www.pnhp.org) and over 101,000 easily preventable deaths (Health Affairs). It's called "eliminate insatiably greedy, unnecessary, amoral middlemen and start utilizing efficiencies of scale". It is estimated we would save another $50 Billion per year simply by treating diabetes before eyes, limbs, and/or kidnets are lost. Preventing the disease itself would be even better.

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Ideologies
Posted by: solrev on Oct 24, 2008 5:41 AM   
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I know what the right wing ideology is, because people who have that philosophy do not have any trouble verbalizing it. I do not know what the left wing ideology is because no one seems to verbalize that ideology. There is a cultural fear on the left that they will sound like socialists, communists, or Marxists which have taboo connotations in our society because these are the people we go to war with. The problem is people on the left think like people on the right. People on the left need to abandon the concept that we are a nation of laws. We are a nation of people who make laws, but dictators and theocrats make laws also. Here a law there a law every where a law, law. Our constitution is not what identifies America, while it is a pretty good functional power distribution document that tries to protect America. What defines America is our declaration of independence and the preamble to the constitution. We the people will institute a government that will secure the "entitlements" of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, establish "justice", insure "domestic tranquility", provide for the "common defense", and promote the "general welfare". Now call me a socialist or communist or Marxist or call me an American. When the left stop being lawyers and start being people, republicans will not be able to get elected dogcatcher. In our quest for the economic dream we have failed to pass on to our posterity the American dream written down hundreds of years ago.

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It's All About Priorities...
Posted by: popeurbanxxiii on Oct 24, 2008 5:46 AM   
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The fact that the Republicans and the Democratic Congress found two trillion dollars to throw a the Iraq misadventure, and another trillion to throw onto the Wall Street money bonfire, shows me that the money was there all along! They merely chose to stiff "Joe the Plumber" and "Hockey Mom".

It's luxury retreats and "golden parachutes" for the Wall Street failures, and soup kitchens and food banks for the rest.

W speaks of "hateful ideologies" but fails to see just how distainful the stunted and deformed version of "Market Fundamentalism" "Bushonomics" is.

Just a couple of months worth of expenditures in Iraq could have filled most progressives wish-lists. The trillions we've thrown out the window in Iraq could have stablized and funded Social Security and/or Medicare (those Reich-wing hobgoblins).

Any politician who puts greed and war before the American people is neither Christian, American, or moral. We have a Congress full of "Grima/Wormtongue"'s and "Smeagol/Gollum"'s.

"Frodo failed! W's got the ring!"

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HOW WE PERCEIVE THE WORLD TRANSLATES TO POLICY
Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 24, 2008 6:06 AM   
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Generally the Republicans/Conservatives world view is one that posits that the world is hostile.While Dems/Liberals/Progressives world view is one of a nurturing world in which we place our trust. Hence some of their respective policy emphasis like excessive war making and war mongering.

Albert Einsten said that this is the fundamental question we must ask ourselves and answer to ourselves which then drives our lives. Do we view the world as hostile or nurturing?

AS FOR ME -VOTE YOUR HOPES-NOT YOUR FEARS

LIVE YOUR HOPES-NOT YOUR FEARS

Alas- It may be too little too late?

But "optimism remains a moral imperative" ral

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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Scary
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 24, 2008 6:17 AM   
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May God help us all if McBush/Failin win next month. I honestly cannot believe that anyone with a single ounce of common sense would be taking them seriously at this point.

Jiff
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Palin's Conservative Mirages
Posted by: bessie on Oct 24, 2008 6:54 AM   
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Not that Sarah Palin represents anything credible but McCain's campaign seems to rest on a quirky collection of mirages, doublespeak, and elusive compassion. Just this morning, Palin is giving a 'policy' speech where she is discussing the needs of special children while claiming that Obama's taxes for the 1% will prevent 'equal opportunity' for special needs children. This farcial attempt at some sort of empathy signals, at least, some acknowledgment that the conservative message is missing a compassionate goal. In the meantime, this election may be our safety valve. Otherwise, we are all trapped in McCain's fighter jet, fueled by fear and greed, and co-piloted by the likes of Rumsfeld and Greenspan.

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» RE: Palin's Conservative Mirages Posted by: Last Chance
IF PROGRESSIVE MEANS MORE JOBS, HIGHER WAGES, AND HEALTH CARE THEN i AM A PROGRESSIVE
Posted by: cori on Oct 24, 2008 9:31 AM   
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We are one nation. Anyone of us could go under at any time. Your spouse might get sick or you might lose your job. We are not a bunch of tribal villages. We pay trillions OF OUR TAX DOLLARS to the military but we would let our neighbor starve or die in the gutter, live in their car and still oppose our tax dollars going to help those in need!!! We gave trillions in tax dollars to kill ten's of thousands of men, women and children in Iraq. Wake up! Who are we? What is important? McCain says Obama wants to spread the wealth. You bet when 99% of the people in this nation have all the wealth! We don't bat an eye lash when they give billions OF OUR TAX DOLLARS to the drug and insurance companies but god forbid you should help a homeless family! Our nation, if it is to be a civilized nation, must take all under it's wing and not let the Corporations and the miltiarty industrial complex suck up all of our tax dollars while millions of Americans go hungry.

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CORRECTION 1% OF THE PEOPLE HOLD ALL THE WEALTH
Posted by: cori on Oct 24, 2008 9:57 AM   
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HOW MANY AMERICAN’S SHOULD DIE IN THE GUTTER IN THE USA BEFORE WE GET IT?

We are one nation. Anyone of us could go under at any time. Your spouse might get sick or you might lose your job. We are not a bunch of tribal villages. We pay trillions OF OUR TAX DOLLARS to the military but we would let our neighbor starve or die in the gutter, live in their car and still oppose our tax dollars going to help those in need!!! We gave trillions in tax dollars to kill ten's of thousands of men, women and children in Iraq. Wake up! Who are we? What is important? McCain says Obama wants to spread the wealth. You bet when 1% of the people in this nation have all the wealth! We don't bat an eye lash when they give billions OF OUR TAX DOLLARS to the drug and insurance companies but god forbid you should help a homeless family! Our nation, if it is to be a civilized nation, must take all under its wing and not let the Corporations and the military industrial complex suck up all of our tax dollars while millions of Americans go hungry.

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But are the Democrats listening ?!? FUCK NO. Just ask Mark Warner !
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 24, 2008 10:11 AM   
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Oh, he's a FUCKING Democrat alright but he ain't no progressive. And what about the party wasting money on "conservative" Democrats AGAIN ?!?!? Yeah, leave even the moderately progressive candidates defunded and to dry but let the DINOs in ! This is the same shit that got this party into trouble in the first place for the past 50 years ! DAMN FUCK !!

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» Poo-Poo Ca-Ca! Posted by: fanny666
It is only considered "Welfare" if it is really needed!
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 24, 2008 10:30 AM   
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When "real Americans"(okay I hat to say it: Joe the Plumber) need money to help them say: pay rent, keep food on the table, etc. they are called wanting "welfare"! However, when say Donald Trump has "over-extended" himself, than it is not WELFARE - he is allowed to file Chapter 11 and "RESTRUCTURE" his allocations - all the while receiving "tax breaks" (aka loan write-downs, business losses, etc), and yet this is not considered "WELFARE for the rich & corporate"!

I want to know why is it that those people that continue to vote for "conservative" individuals don't realize that those people have neither your interests, nor those of the nation at heart! I don't believe Democrats have had this nations interests at heart either, but at least as a whole this nation does do better!

We have allowed ourselves to become more polarized over "cultural" things that are really more personal/individual rights issues. As a society, there are things that should be on the table: equal pay for equal work, gender equality, religious tolerance, health-care for all, quality education, truly affordable housing, national infra-structure repairs, quality affordable childcare, taking care of our elderly with dignity, global warming, truly public financing of elections, extending unemployment benefits(especially at this point), et. al!

If our elected leaders cannot find their way into supporting any of the above, than I say exercise your civic duty, and vote the bums out! For they are truly not "our" representatives! The issues facing this nation are neither Republican or Democratic, they are not specific to man/woman, they do not discriminate against age, religious preference, Latino, White, Asian, Middle Eastern, African American, nor any other descent, they are issues of national interest that need to be addressed by everyone that lives in this nation!

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Some thoughts
Posted by: willymack on Oct 24, 2008 10:41 AM   
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1. The American people are, collectively, the most (historically and politically) ignorant in the entire civilized world. All the crap that's happening now has happened before. Google "The Guilded Age", and see for yourself.
2. Even when armed with the historical truth and a clear description of how our current situation can be corrected, our people would rather have a root canal than bestir themselves to action.
3.Whatever change (if any) emerges from our current mess, it should be crystal clear that we can't go on as before and MUST strive and fight for a more egalitarian society.
4.Something other than predatory capitalism should considered and put into action, if only on a trial basis and in a limited area at first.
5. There really are enemies of the people. They're not the ones we've thought they were, but the greedy bastards who've been robbing us blind, and with help from crooked lawmakers. Teaching our people who these criminals are, and how they operate, as well as strong laws and stiff criminal penalities for monopolies and other unethical business practices is not only necessary but vital for a healthy society.

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Invest where?
Posted by: owlsliveintrees on Oct 24, 2008 12:25 PM   
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What infrastructure? We have roads. We have sewers. Green energy? OK. Which ones? Based on what? No amount of government funding is going to make a certain type of energy worthwhile that wasn't before. Government should invest in research, and once the technology is viable, you won't need government to invest in it. It won't be hard to find private investors for a profitable, renewable, energy industry.

Take whatever money you want to invest in "green energy" infrastructure and just give it the american people. If the scientists can create the tech, government won't need to fund the infrastructure.

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The question is, "Who _won't_ stand in the way?"
Posted by: SBean on Oct 24, 2008 12:59 PM   
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Right-wingers, including the ones who are Democrats, will definitely stand in the way of sane policy. It's because they can't ever afford to let the public know just how much (of our) wealth they and their friends are hoarding. Once the cat is out of the bag, it could take a long time for them to get it back in.

Too bad the EPI didn't look at the payback on something like what Josh alluded to in terms of a "green recovery". A national home insulation program, for example, would employ hundreds of thousands, help people keep their homes, and help to keep our money within our borders. The list of such opportunities is long and well known. The political will doesn't exist because it would be a ceding of power on the part of those in Washington.

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BONFIRE for FASCISTS
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Oct 24, 2008 1:10 PM   
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Sorry but this story is another example of amateur night economics that doesn’t address the core issues never mind downstream symptoms.

Example:

”most economic experts from across the political spectrum…Nobel Prize-winning economists were saying it would have no beneficial effect…This is classic economic theory and shouldn't be controversial.”

Ultimately, this debate represents a "teachable moment"…


You can’t “teach” what you don’t know.

Both “right-wingers” and the establishment “Left” lead by Obama out of Washington are owned by the same corporate Fascists as the "the journal of African American political thought and action" has pointed out: "It is absurd to claim that a progressive "movement" with a potential for profound social change can coalesce behind a candidate who repeatedly and reflexively aligns with the worst corporate malefactors on the planet, the very same individuals who brought about the current catastrophe."


“Economic experts” especially the “Nobel Prize-winning” kind are not to be trusted. “Economics” is NOT a science. And Alfred Nobel NEVER authorized an economic prize for this quackery – (it was tacked on to the program in 1968 by the Swedish central bank at the insistence of corporate propagandists). Taught at foundation funded universities it is a political tool to distract from practical truth, not to reveal it. Economists have helped foist agendas consistently bankrolled by what amounts to ruling class organized corporate crime. Artificially famous “economic experts” are poison.

Crystal ball charlatans like Milton Friedman and John Keynes have done their damage through Ivy League and MSM snake oil networks literally paid for by corporate paymasters. In the case of JM Keynes, this would be “Keynesian Economics” for the “classic economic theory and shouldn't be controversial” that Mr. Holland links to in the story.

John Maynard Keynes was perhaps the biggest economics fraud in modern history whose career was literally paid for by ruling class Cambridge soothsayer Alfred Marshall – a staff economist of the “Royal Colonial Society” (renamed “Royal Empire Society” in 1928) dedicated to de facto corporate crime rule for England’s empire. The campaign for JM Keynes career fame was relentless. JM Keynes was helped string together the predatory sham World Bank and IMF for David Rockefeller at Bretton Woods.

Quack Friedman was funded by the Rockefellers out of the Chicago School of Economics. His fame and public standing, a contrived establishment circus act.

And then we have more recent “Fed” “experts” Sir Allan “Bubbles” Greenspan and Ben Bernanke out of Princeton as a chief cheerleader for Wall Street trash-for-cash bailout. Bernanke crony Paul Krugman (never once criticized the “Federal Reserve” Corp as a private Ponzi bank swindle) was just awarded an ersatz Nobel prize.

An honest economy run on honest money not rigged by Organized Corporate Crime Rule is step one to avoid boom-crash cycles and mend the nation. Step 2 is to kill the propaganda by which a parasite ruling class owns the media and “education” establishment of the west.


“The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.”
Doctor Albert Einstein (in a letter to Sigmund Freud 7/30/1932. 1879-1955)

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Clear
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 24, 2008 2:42 PM   
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It has become abundantly clear that no one in Washing gives a rats patutie about anyone on Main Street America.

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EARTH For Sale Marketed By Interplanet Google on STREETCAM
Posted by: opmoc on Oct 24, 2008 6:02 PM   
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I haven't taken any notice whatsover of share prices over the last few days. The last time I looked it was bad enough - I haven't been expecting it to get any better

So a letter had been delivered to our house for one of our mates who stayed with us for a few months a couple of years ago when his marriage was collapsing and his girlfriend had chucked him out and he had nowhere else to go.

And my wife texted him and said it was a financial thing and he replied open it

So my wife opened it and it was a loan for how much I didn't ask and I did not look

I wouldn't betray my friend's confidence. I didn't want to know about any loans

And then I thought - how the fuck can he have any loans?

He sold his house at the top of the market

And so he invites us into his flat and we pass all the guitars and amps and he has got this thing running on his computer - with twin big LCD screens

And shows us his old house in Australia on Google Streetcam

And I say they Came down our Road as Well - I was hopng for a bit of notice so I could do a full moon at the Camera

And The Quality of Google Streetcam at his old house in Australia was completely Phenomenal..

And so I was trawling round Perth on his computer whilst he was talking bollocks about bands and stuff

And I couldn't find ONE SINGLE HUMAN BEING

I said What The FUCK Have Google Done With All The HUMANS?

And he said

Oh Yes - I've been meaning to pay this off

I went into the bank and this really nice girl said - if you pay it off NOW

You will incur a PENALTY

You will be much better off keeping your Money In Your Bank Account Till The End of The Month - Earning Interest - And Then Pay It All Off On The Last Day of The Month.

Even The Girls Who Work In The Banks Are On Our Side

But what the FUCK HAVE Google Done With All The HUMANS????????????????????

Are Google an Estate agent Working For Another Planet Federation?

Marketing EARTH?

Sure Guys - Its a Really Beuatiful Place - And We Have Already Cleared The Place of Most of The Humans

Tony

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Takin it to the Streets
Posted by: peskyfly1 on Oct 24, 2008 6:17 PM   
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The official messaging is to get everyone talking about 'Wall street vs. Main street,' when the truth is that America is bankrupt and your not even going to be able to pave your streets.

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» RE: Takin it to the Streets Posted by: bessie
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» RE: The World is Bankrupt Posted by: bessie
Isn't it Gilded?
Posted by: bessie on Oct 24, 2008 9:55 PM   
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The Gilded Age - the Roaring 20s , the Teapot Dome Scandals look a lot like our society today except to say that there are fundamental differences. So history does repeat itself but never in the exact same way. Who knows what is going on? Please tell us. Seems like the power brokers are just as ignorant as the rest of us. I know the theories out there about total destruction but in IMHO why would that be the collective goal of any group of billionaires? Wasn't their life just the best without any collective meltdown? The spook factor in regards to oil and real estate and consumer buying is a real factor here. So these billionaires overplayed their hand in many ways and now the situation with the unregulated derivatives etc. has muddled and compromised it all. And let's be real, the dismantling of industry and small towns has been going on for quite awhile. At least since Reagan or before. Yeah - it's gilded for the few. And as history taught us before, the American reaction was quite forceful towards social protection. Most everyone loved FDR for his reforms. But there still was a lasting legacy of resentment despite the fact that his government brought electricity to the most rural areas. This hostility and this mindset needs to be examined. It's a class war alright based on racism, ignorance,fear,jealousy, and anger. Well, it will be a total watershed moment when Senator Obama becomes our President and all the naysayers can just be that. The Gilded Ages will end and the Age of Realism will help our country move forth.

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