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The 11 Dumbest Things Sarah Palin Has Said So Far

Presenting a roundup of Sarah Palin's most hilarious, shocking and scary statements since she was added to the McCain ticket.
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When Sarah Palin was first added to the Republican ticket, the McCain campaign went to almost comical extremes to guard her from press scrutiny. The Alaska governor was hustled through photo opportunities, kept from doing interviews and hidden from reporters at several events. Palin did prove adept at reading from a teleprompter in front of conservative supporters, though, so the campaign mostly had her do that.

When Palin finally made her teleprompter-free debut in an interview with Charlie Gibson, it became clear why McCain had effectively kept his running mate in quarantine: Palin was uninformed and inarticulate; she said embarrassingly stupid things; and she looked at Gibson as though he were pointing a loaded crossbow at her.

Since then, the Alaska governor has done little to dispel concerns that she can't articulate thoughts that aren't preprogrammed talking points. More than once, Palin has slipped into George W. Bush territory with statements so absurdly inane they seem closer to Dada art than standard political speech.

We've assembled the 11 strangest, dumbest, most alarming and most harmful statements to come courtesy of Palin since she joined the McCain ticket. Here is Gov. Sarah Palin, in her own words.

1. The News Makes Me Sad ... So I Don't Watch It

Sarah Palin at a North Carolina fundraiser:
At those times on the campaign trail when sometimes it's easy to get a little bit discouraged, when, you know, when you happen to turn on the news when your campaign staffers will let you turn on the news ... Usually they're like "Oh my gosh, don't watch. You're going to, you know, you're going to get depressed."
Maybe her handlers could put on a puppet show instead -- something fun that allows Palin to maintain her cheery optimism in the face of overwhelming evidence that the McCain campaign has imploded. There was once another politician similarly unconcerned with current events and the news: George W. Bush. That went well.

2. The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does

Upon being asked by James Dobson if the McCain ticket's precipitous slide in the polls gets her down:
... [it] strengthens my faith, because I'm going to know, at the end of the day, putting this in God's hands, that the right thing for America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4. So I'm not discouraged at all.
... and I can feel it too, Dr. Dobson. I can feel the power of prayer, and that strength that is provided through our prayer warriors across this nation.
Ah yes, the always helpful "prayer warriors," whose appeals to the Almighty actually count for more than the average American citizen's vote. Apparently the next president of the United States will be handpicked by God.

3. Palin Believes in "Divided" States of America

At a fundraiser:
We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hardworking, very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation.
Palin later apologized for the statement. But her backpedaling shouldn't get her off the hook for putting forth a deeply divisive vision of America. How would conservatives have reacted if, in an attempt to pander to uber-liberals, Obama said "I love visiting the parts of the country where people aren't close-minded assholes"? Probably not well.

4. The Vice President Is Supreme Boss of the Senate

Here's what Palin said when Brandon, an elementary school student, asked: "What does the vice president do?"
That's something that Piper would ask me! ... They're in charge of the U.S. Senate so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom.
To be fair, Palin had no idea what the VP does the last time the issue came up, so this is almost an improvement. Except that saying the vice president (who is only nominally head of the U.S. Senate) makes policy changes through Senate legislation reveals an embarrassing ignorance of our government's system of checks and balances. Also, it's a bit disconcerting to hear someone running for VP endow that office with God-like powers over a separate branch of government.

5. Delusional Response to Troopergate

"Well, I'm very, very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing ... any hint of any kind of unethical activity there," said Sarah Palin last Sunday, soon after she was found to have engaged in wrongdoing and unethical activity in the "Troopergate" investigation. Again, a propensity for denial and lies, a deep aversion to reality -- not the best ways to signal your commitment to "change" from "politics as usual."

6. Vicious Attack on Obama

The following quote needs little introduction. It's famous now, not only for its inaccuracy but also for how much this line of attack has fallen flat with voters and backfired on the McCain campaign:
Our opponent though, is someone who sees America it seems as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country.
Outright deception is probably not something the American voters are looking to put in the White House; pretty sure they've had enough of that in the past eight years.

7. The Lord is a Pollster

While speaking in North Carolina, Palin decided to take a moment to thank God for a very small bump she and McCain experienced in their otherwise sliding poll numbers.
We even saw today, thank the Lord, we saw some movement.
People often thank God for things that appear to be outside the realm of divine intervention. An incredibly small bump in the polls though? Seems excessive. Not to mention, Obama now has the widest lead he has ever had in the polls. Should God be given credit for that too?

8. America's Teachers' Rewards Are in Heaven (but Nowhere to Be Found on Earth)

In the vice presidential debate, Palin had this to say about Sen. Joe Biden's wife's career in education:
You mentioned education, and I'm glad that you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and God bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right?
Governor, America's teachers should not have to wait until heaven; they should be praised and rewarded right here on Earth. Possibly with living-wage salaries.

9. I Read ... All the Publications

When Katie Couric asked Palin the complex trick question of where she gets her news, the two women had the following exchange:
Couric: And when it comes to establishing your world view, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this -- to stay informed and to understand the world?
Palin: I've read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media --
Couric: But what ones specifically? I'm curious.
Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me over all these years.
Couric: Can you name any of them?
Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news.
With all of the intensive reading Palin has done over the years, it's a wonder she's had time to do other important things, like govern Alaska and learn to play the flute.

10. Some of my best friends are gay, but ...

From the same interview with Couric:
One of my absolute best friends for the last 30 years happens to be gay and I love her dearly, and she is not my "gay" friend, she is one of my best friends, who happens to have made a choice that isn't a choice that I have made, but ... I'm not gonna judge people.
Stating in no uncertain terms that being gay is a choice is an odd thing to do on mainstream, national television when medical and psychological associations have contended for years that sexual orientation is biologically determined. Then, she slimily criticizes that so-called "choice" by saying it is not one she would make. But hey, some of her best friends are gay ...

11. A Little Wet Behind the Ears ...

During the vice presidential debate, when Palin was asked which policy plans proposed by the McCain-Palin ticket would have to suffer due to the current economic crisis, Palin gave a pretty dubious response: none. When pressed on the issue, Palin decided that an easy out would be to fall back on her inexperience:
And how long have I been at this, like five weeks?
Uh ... wow, that actually wasn't dumb at all. In that case, she was absolutely right.

That's our list. Please make any additions you see fit in the comments below.

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Editor's note: It was decided to leave out the many quotes having to do with foreign policy experience thanks to a proximity with Russia, as they are quotes that everyone has heard by now ... over and over and over again.
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Dan Quayle lookin good
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Posted by: CommonWealth on Oct 23, 2008 12:31 AM   
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Never thought I would say there is someone dumber than Dan Quayle, but Sarah Palin has done a fine job at it, gosh, gee-whiz, golly!

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It's embarassing...
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Posted by: Moira61 on Oct 23, 2008 3:15 AM   
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that this woman is second on a ticket (thank heavens it's the republican ticket - I guess God wanted it that way). I love seeing the latest polls stating that this dimwit is the main cause of McCain's tanking campaign. I love seeing him get so damned annoyed these days with anyone who questions him on the choice of Palin. What the hell did he expect?

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AlterNet - move on please
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Posted by: weathered on Oct 23, 2008 3:16 AM   
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She's a sad, shallow symptom of just how soul sick we are as a nation.

Address geo-political recovery, acts of responsible innovation, let her go there's nothing that will be missed.

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Russia
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Posted by: tlees2 on Oct 23, 2008 3:35 AM   
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How can you leave out that she's a expert on Russia because you can see Russia from Alaska?

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Dear Alternet Staff - You're gonna feel stupid about this
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Posted by: Dex on Oct 23, 2008 3:52 AM   
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Not defending Palin for all her stupidity, but the VP is the president of the Senate. This is what the Constitution says (courtesy of Brad DeLong):


Now I am thinking that I must be really stupid. The Constitution reads:

I§3: The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided. The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States...

The Vice President of the United States is the President of the Senate. That means he sits up front. He has the gavel. He chooses who gets to speak next. He chooses when to gavel them to sit down. He makes procedural rulings--which can be overruled by a simple majority vote, it is true, but he makes procedural rulings.

It is true that the Vice President has not traditionally exercised his powers to be President of the Senate. If the President were to tell the Veep to exercise them, it would piss the Majority Leader off--and the Minority Leader too to the extent that the Minority Leader hopes to someday become Majority Leader. But we could someday have a Constitutional Moment, couldn't we? The Vice President could show up and take the chair, right? And then call on and recognize whomever he or she chose and only whomever he or she chose for just whatever purposes he or she chose--and the Veeps decisions would stick, to the extent that he or she was sustained in rulings by fifty-one senators.

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Sarah has a thousands charms
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Posted by: bitsfick on Oct 23, 2008 4:18 AM   
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to captivate my heart,
her lovely eyes art Cupid's arms
And every look a dart;
But when the beauteous idiot speaks,
she cures me of my pain,
Her tongue the servile fetters breaks
And frees her slave again.

With thanks to Amphion Anglicus 1700

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Laurence
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Posted by: peaceyogi on Oct 23, 2008 4:53 AM   
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The idea that Earth is only 6,000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs were here together. That would mean that all the means by which we are able to age things are not true, either because they are lies by God, were created by God to mislead us, or the Laws of Nature, which our understanding of allows us to have electricity, telescopes that allow us to see and age galaxies, computers, telephones, airplanes, cars, etc., function randomly or don't really exist, resulting in a universe that is completely without order.

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What oh what will Sarah do????
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Posted by: Michel on Oct 23, 2008 5:04 AM   
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Pehaps after the Repubs LOOSE on Nov 4 she could try out to replace Vanna White on the Wheel of Fortune.......wait...I forgot, she has to go back to governing Alaska. Good luck up there..

Can she please take Rove with her. I think there is a special place for him burried in the snow at the north pole.

Close your eyes...and envision a kinder gentler world after 11/4. :-)

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Reappearing Sarah
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Posted by: Michel on Oct 23, 2008 5:32 AM   
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Don't count on it...looking ahead to 4+ years down the road she will have more experience...she willl know what she needs to know, she digs power---I predict we have not seen the last of her. We'll need to be ready when that comes up down the path.

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Gaffe - o - matic
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Posted by: Karl.Ben on Oct 23, 2008 5:32 AM   
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""The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does"" that not what she said. She said she believes in God and his hand in events.. So does about 80% of America! The media has gone over the top in attacking and trying to discredit Palin who is a real success story. Look at the set up from CNN yesterday when they interviewed her.

It has become disgusting to watch regardless if you support her or not. Sexism in this country far outweighs racism and it is apparent in watching our media! They hammered Hillary and are hammering Palin! Any one see anything regarding Cynthia McKinney? Nothing!

The media is swaying public opinion toward Obama and essentially driving this election the way THEY want it! Like the two party system has served us well in the past. Americans continue to believe the two party system is good vs evil instead of evil vs evil!

Now, if you want TRULY DUMB statements one need look no further than loveable Joe Biden!

It's patrotic to pay taxes
hillary was a better choice for VP
Sum up the campaign in one THREE letter word - JOBS!
If Obama is elected he will be tested in a big way.
demanding a disabled person to stand up when he was wheelchair bound.

Biden on Obama: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

"" “you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”""

I now I'm missing a few good ones but THESE are dumb statements! Check out the net, there are hundreds of them, many on video!

Then there's Biden's law school plagiarism and he had plagiarized speeches from a British politician, substituting in key details to make the story his own. Not exactly honest guy!

He makes Palin look like presidential material. Talk about judgement on Obamas part. At least Palin brings a successful record of governorship and fighting her own party. Considering the repubs are as dishonest as the dems , this is a good thing! No one else except maybe McCain can even claim that!

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Only 11 ??
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Posted by: newsound on Oct 23, 2008 5:36 AM   
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How about EVERY time she opens her mouth.

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#12: "Circle of Protection"
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Posted by: Overburdened Planet on Oct 23, 2008 5:39 AM   
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Palin's full speech

I'm too tired of all of this to make a comment.

Anyone else interested?

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Palin belives she will see the "end of days"
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Posted by: bthespoon on Oct 23, 2008 5:40 AM   
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...in her lifetime, and she may get to have her finger on the trigger that would end everything for everyone (except the special few who get to go to that special bunker in the ground).

She literally believes this. The irony is that figuratively if she and the old guy get elected, it will surely be the end of daylight and one long cold night in America. I pray she doesn't get the chance to literally make her vision come true.

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None of this matters to her followers
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Posted by: taxidriver on Oct 23, 2008 6:00 AM   
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We should capture these absurdities and inanities, as long as we remember they don't matter to her admirers. They just see "someone like me," even though she and the "first dude" are worth over $1 million, and of course she and the GOP spent 150K on a new wardrobe, more than most of her admirers make in three years of hard work at the factory of your choosing.

Maybe it's because some people actually imagine they could be Sarah Palin, i.e. with a little luck, some fancy clothes, and some warrior prayer power, they too could be VP.

And that is a scary thought.

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Do not exaggerate
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Posted by: sbratteng@gmail.com on Oct 23, 2008 6:41 AM   
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It makes your work seem more biased and less reasonable when you exaggerate what someone says. For example, in Palin's comment on being in charge of the Senate: your headline used the word supreme, which she had not used. By trying to make her look even worse than she is, you weaken your credibility.

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Republican disdain for the voter
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Posted by: ibolyap on Oct 23, 2008 6:44 AM   
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It really saddens me to see the stupid and ugly events of this election. Do the Republicans have so much disdain for the voter that they think that they can select any cardboard cutout of a person and get elected? They are debasing their party and they deserve the sweeping out that they are going to get this November.

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Lilly
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Posted by: Lilly on Oct 23, 2008 6:59 AM   
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Since the news broke that when P gave her nasty Convention speech she was wearing a $2500 Valentino jacket then later appeared at the Convention wearing a $2250 outfit from Neiman-Marcus, that $4100 has been billed for her hair and makeup, that $92 was spent for a baby outfit for Trig, that Todd wears $5000 worth of RNC money, that that the total bill for Palin family clothing runs to $150,000, and that Sarah went to a governors' conference where the meeting lasted 5 hours but she stayed 4 nights and 5 days in a $700 per night hotel so she could give her daughter a little vacation in New York and bill it to the state---all of this excess while telling us how much she loves the common man---deja vu, deja vu. As a girl I lived in Argentina. I've heard this song before. It was called "Evita". And it wasn't a musical.

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Moose
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Posted by: ClassAct on Oct 23, 2008 7:16 AM   
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A moose in every pot!

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Anti-intellectualism v. Anti-ignorance
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Posted by: peacelf on Oct 23, 2008 7:20 AM   
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This article is childish, immature journalism.

No doubt Sarah Palin lacks insight and knowledge on subjects important for the role of possible president of the U.S. She has demonstrated that on many occasions. However, calling her "dumb," "stupid" etc. is demonstrating the same tit for tat name calling, and worse, divisive politics that has proven dangerous these past eight years.

Let's consider: 1) Sarah Palin is intelligent enough to be elected governor of, yes, a sparsely populated state, but elected nonetheless.
2) The polls already showed the public concern for Palin's ability to govern our nation, as her favorability has dropped dramatically since her fist appearance at the RNC.
3) Name calling and character assasination are tactics of the right, and it is proving more damaging to the party that utilizes these tactics. Moreover, McCain's attacks this time are racist besides being utterly false and many people see and understand the dangerous consequences.
4) Last, I am tired of the anti-intellectualism that has permeated our culture for the past 28 years. But, I will not play the same game by calling out someone's ignorance on a particular subject with low road political tactics.

We should never blame people for their ignorance, but we can challenge them to be more honest and forthright in their politics and service to the people. And, if we do our job well, trust that the voting public will see the truth.

Moreover, left-leaning journalists should turn that same critical eye on the Democrats, who for too long have sold the american worker short and allowed...indeed, participated in policies that created this economic crisis our nation is experiencing, and give third party candidates a fair shake.

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9. I read...all the Publications
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Posted by: Portlyric on Oct 23, 2008 7:21 AM   
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This may be the most frightening of all. A real freebie. She couldn't answer this question because she doesn't read. If Bush had bothered to read the national security briefings that were sent to him in Crawford, while he was on an extended, taxpayer funded vacation, measures could have been taken that would have prevented 9/11.

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Palin was a great choice
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Posted by: vkobaya1 on Oct 23, 2008 7:24 AM   
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I have to say, McCain's choice of Palin really was dismaying as I thought she was about the worst person he could nominate. Now, I'm not so sure. If McCain loses, Palin may well be the millstone that drowned him. It has always been said that the vice-presidential candidate really had only a very minor effect on the outcome of the race, but in this case, Palin may be his Waterloo. Have to say, as long as he loses, I applaud this choice though it is almost unimaginable if he should steal the election. Palin being a faltering, stuttering heartbeat away from the presidency is probably enough to make Russia check out and ready their nuclear missiles to say nothing of what other nations around the world think. Maybe even Britain and France might double check how easily their missiles can be retargeted across the Atlantic. Would be better to get it over with quickly in an all out nuclear war than to set up the sort of drawn out worldwide catastrophe that would result from a Palin presidency. Would make Bush look like a genius and wonder boy, world statesman and leading guru for world peace. Canada would consider if there was any possible way to leave North America and migrate to South America.

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Let's keep our fingers crossed
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Posted by: Don Pablo on Oct 23, 2008 7:49 AM   
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Let us not bash Sarah Palin too much. It might prompt John McCain to dump her and pick Joe Lieberman in her place, a ticket that might be difficult for Barack Obama to beat.

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Dan Quayle & Sarah Palin
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Posted by: sunlakedude on Oct 23, 2008 8:21 AM   
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It's obvious where the Republicans get their VP picks. If the presidential candidate is old or not particularly good looking they pick a younger, good looking person to "balance" the prez. So it was with Dan Quayle and now Sarah Palin. You gotta admit, they are pretty nice-looking people. Ready to take over the job as President of the United States? Not really, but, looks is what it's all about.

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S.A.R.A.H. P.A.L.I.N.
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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Oct 23, 2008 8:21 AM   
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S=scum
A=arrogant
R=revolting
A=assinine
H="Ho" [political variety]

P=piece of shit
A=asshole
L=liar
I=inculpably ignorant
N= NO FUCKING WAY ON 11/4/08 or ever!

Next!

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I have no idea how you did it
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Posted by: JohnJlws on Oct 23, 2008 8:28 AM   
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I have no idea how you narrowed the list to eleven, but you did a great job. Thanks for the chuckle.

Now, back to the phones--have to Get Out The Vote! There's simply no way this can be our representative to the world.

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Perhaps you should look at Joe Biden
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Posted by: Kristal on Oct 23, 2008 8:32 AM   
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Mr. 3 letter word JOBS. Geez I can't imagine what you would have done to Sarah had she said that, not to mention the fact that good old Joe said we'll have an international crisis due to Obama being president. Everyone is afraid of Sarah Palin because she does have power, and she has a lot of us supporters behind her that ARE praying for her and our country. She is a very smart woman and is the only canidate that has executive experience governing over the American people, and she did a fabulous job doing that. No one wants to report on that. I see no articles asking how she cut property tax, business tax, and her own Salary as Mayor in order to give a 1300.00 check to every resident? How she has managed to work with these oil companies and come to an agreement with billion dollar deals. No, no one wants to talk about the REAL SARAH PALIN, the liberal biased media choose to focuse on the hightened reality (as SNL would call it) they have created, because she is a threat to the great messiah.

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Well......
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Posted by: ptoddchesser on Oct 23, 2008 8:50 AM   
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Karl.Ben has pulled his head out of his ass long enough to comment here..... at least salt-of-the-earth hasn't seen fit to grace us with his presence.....

I remember when Dan Quayle said he wouldn't be making a trip to Latin America with the president because he didn't speak Latin... I think Palin has the ability to top that on the stupidity scale.... we still have 12 days and she has plenty spilling out of her piehole.

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What about Karl Obama?
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Posted by: throck on Oct 23, 2008 9:01 AM   
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Palin's communication style should not worry us as much as Obama's plan to "redistribute the wealth." Now THAT'S a gaffe. Or is it?

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The only trigger I want Sara Palin's finger to be on
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Posted by: keefus55 on Oct 23, 2008 9:04 AM   
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...is a blender.

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I read all of them!
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Posted by: beastfan on Oct 23, 2008 9:40 AM   
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I had so hoped that all 1500 (I don't know the exact number) newspapers would have simultaneously sent complimentary issues to her office in Alaska.

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America's Teachers' Rewards Are in Heaven (not on Earth)
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Posted by: xvictor on Oct 23, 2008 9:48 AM   
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Palin's religious beliefs meshes neatly with that attitude. Clerics, in collusion with the wealthy interests, throughout history had that stance towards the lower classes living in misery. In other words, so they say, there's nothing to be done to improve your lot in life and society overall while you are living. Just wait until after you're dead and things will be better for you in heaven. And don't rock the boat while you are alive because the privileged upperclasses might get distressed. They like things the way they are. Typical Repugnican.

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Politician or God? Not much difference for some
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Posted by: lbrlw13 on Oct 23, 2008 9:50 AM   
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When people are taught about God, they are taught that he is all powerful, all knowing, can heal, and is good. When someone questions why bad things happen if the above is true, the answer he/she gets usually has something to do with God's plan. When asked for more details about this plan, the person is told that he/she can't understand the plan, but to trust that God has one, and on and on and on.... So, basically, you are expected to trust in a God that is good, powerful, etc..., but when you point out the holes or inconsistencies, you have people finding any reason or explanation to continue believing and supporting this God.

Same with Palin & the GOP. We liberals, can point out the facts all we want (she doesn't have enough experience, she says stupid things, McCain's a flip-flopping war-mongerer, McCain doesn't know what he's doing, you're voting against your own economic self-interest, etc..etc...) But, in the end, just like with God/religion, the true believers will form an emotional attachment and find any excuse to justify their choice...No matter how irrational.

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Posted by: allviews on Oct 23, 2008 9:55 AM   
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Any comments about Biden stating that Franklin Roosevelt was on tv?

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Church and State
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Posted by: mtc on Oct 23, 2008 10:03 AM   
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Some of the opinions referred to as "stupid" are really just expressions of her faith. She shares those opinions with many, many people and probably most of her supporters. Fine, her religion is her business BUT -- but -- in our country we're in theory protected from the fusion of church and state. The woman is dangerous because she's clueless but also because she's dragging her religion into the political arena. Every speech refers to God or prayer and if, goddess forbid, she were elected, her religion would affect education, health, the Supreme Court, and the environment. Whatever she does in her private life is her business, but, please, keep it between consenting adults…

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Once Upon A Time In America
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Posted by: Doyle Wheeler on Oct 23, 2008 10:16 AM   
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Once upon a time truth and honor did shine. It was a way of life for many you see, honor stood as King, while truth was the Queen! It was how a man was measured not by his size, but rather if he was truthful or lied! But times have changed I fear, for no longer is honor or truth revered!

Honor became passe, while truth just went to it's grave! Heroes became those that shined, in movies or sports and even in crime! Ethics and integrity were lost along the way, political spin took their place!

Now lawyers rather than law rules the day, if you're rich enough innocence's is a foregone verdict away!
Life has become a series of lies, of our heroes committing more serious crimes! Until now there is no longer any surprise, at how low men and women will go to enjoy their lives!

Will honor ever return as King? Will truth come back as our Queen? Surely not without an innovation from us all , for they're both near death where they once stood tall!

For hundred of years Truth and Honor served us well, as pillars of strength between Heaven and Hell! Strengthening those pillars should be man's goal, if we are ever to get back America Soul!

I wrote this a few years back and somehow it seems to me that it's more important today than any other time in our history. Friends, fellow Americans we really need to stop and think for a moment. Is there any bottom to the depth that McCain and Palin will sink too to try to win the Presidency?

Truth went out the window first and it is so far gone in the attacks each day by McCain, Palin, and the republican party, that shame on them just doesn't seem like its a strong enough thing to say anymore. Honor, they have none at all, they called Senator Obama everything but a Black man. They viciously attack anyone that endorses him, such as the very honorable General Powell.

McCain was supposed to be this big war hero, this man has no honor period! I'm not sure he or Palin even have the slightest concept as to what honor actually means. The rest of the so called republicans have demonstrated that they are little more than a large gathering of closet racist that feel embolden to come out of the closet and scream racist, hateful, and threatening ugly speech!

I believe that America can bring back truth and honor but it clearly will not happen if McCain and Palin are elected.
Both Senator Obama and Senator Biden are honorable men, truthful men, good examples for our young people.
The thought of McCain or Palin trying to set an example for the young people in America should shock everyone into voting for the ticket of Obama & Biden. We need to bring decency, integrity, ethics, truthfulness and honor back to the office of the presidency. Once there perhaps the trickle down theory might work. Elect two people that can and will lead by example, of honor and truthfulness, who knows it might catch on again. Would that be a wonderful benefit to electing two great men to turn our country around in more ways than just those that are obviously needed?
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Bad for women
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Posted by: CM76 on Oct 23, 2008 11:10 AM   
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She has been one of the most disgraceful role models for young women of today. Women have worked very hard for decades to be taken seriously in a world that has been dominated by men, and yet here she is winking at the camera. It's bad enough that what she actual has to say has little worth and then adds injury to insult with that folksy back woods talk.

So when people say that this VP selection is a milestone for women everywhere, I say speak for yourselves. I look at it as one big fat leap into the past. It's a shame, really.

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Personally, I am DONE wasting any more time talking aboout Palin!
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Posted by: Voicedude on Oct 23, 2008 11:32 AM   
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A few weeks after the election is over, American history's most under-qualified, major-party candidate will slip back into obscurity. After her disasterous appearances in the national spotlight, I'll bet she'll have some trouble getting re-elected. Face it, her career peaked with the GOP convention, and it's a solid downhill ride from there.

I would, however, like to make to unrelated points from here:

The first is with point #8 and teachers. I was married to a teacher for a long time. She mostly taught in the public sector, but also taught in a prestigious private sector as well. She was a music teacher, often one of the first casualties when budget cuts came down. During this time, I was actively involved in ALL aspects of the inner workings of the educational system from the 'trenches'. (I'm still involved, just not from the inside any more.) I give all these 'credentials' to make this point:

Not all teachers are so poorly underpaid. Some, like my ex, have done pretty well. The shortage of funding, however, is directly reflected in the classrooms. They are commonly shortchanged on funding for materials, books, and most other ways of helping the teachers do their jobs. That's where the true shortage of educational funding lies! The teachers have unions and lawyers to look out for their best interests. The students have only US!

Second, and completely unrelated to anything else on this subject, is with CBS consistantly reporting that the AP newswire claims it's a neck-and-neck race, with Obama's lead down to less than 1%. This flies in the face of all the other info we have out there, and I don't mean 'fringe' information, either!

My point is this: I have many staunch Republican friends who now have just about ALL admitted that McCain will lose. I mean, when the arrogant, purple bandaid wearing, lying, election stealing, win at all costs right wing actually brings themselves to admit their own defeat, why would any news ageny (other than Faux News, of course) bother to say otherwise? I have a feeling now that many GOP supporters will do in this election what so many disillusioned Dem supporters have done in the past: stay home and not even bother to vote.

Sorry to bring these unrelated points up here, but does anyone else have a take on these two points?

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Also
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Posted by: halsparks on Oct 23, 2008 11:35 AM   
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I recommend that anytime you create a list of Sarah Palin quotes that you at least respect her enough to use the word "also" between every point, Just like she does. It really gives it that Palin feel, You betcha ;)

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Was that a typo?
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Posted by: Crazy H on Oct 23, 2008 11:41 AM   
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"The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does"

Shouldn't that be: "The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, GOP Does"?

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It's all part of a plan, don't you see?
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Posted by: GreyMatter on Oct 23, 2008 11:43 AM   
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These liberal media elites are eating way too much brie and hatefully missing the obvious fact that Sarah is blessed.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets $150,000 in free clothing.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets 64 free rides on commercial airlines for her kiddies at state expense

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to use an Alaska King Air plane while taking credit for selling the Alaska jet (at a loss).

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to claim state per diem while at home.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah can be informed without reading anything.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to put her husband in the governor's office to make badgering calls to pesky state employees who won't fire a relative.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to call herself Christian while spreading distortions and lies about her opponents.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to deduct her husband's snow machine sport from her taxes and fly her family to the events at state expense.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets witches cast out, gays healed and speaks in tongues in Wassilla's Pentacostal Church.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah lives so close to Russia and has become such an expert.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah must be shielded from probing by media except for God's channel...Fox News, bless its heart.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to "run" the Senate as VP.

No doubt Liberal media atheists don't get it. Well go ahead and imagine that dinosaurs existed before the Bible. Soon you'll realize that the Iraq war and Sarah's imminent presidency are all part of God's certain plan!

Amen

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Supports our troops?
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Posted by: Stephen R on Oct 23, 2008 12:01 PM   
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We always hear how the Republicans support our troops and how patriotic they are, they say it day in and day out, especially McPain and Faillin.

It's easy to say you do but actions speak louder than words. Has she paid out of pocket for a flack Jacket? Has she donated anything to help them?

Then they talk about how crazy it is to raise taxes in a time like this. Where do they think the money for keeping our troops in Iraq will come from? Where do they think money to fix the road,bridges and govt. buildings is going to come from?

Biden said it right. Paying your taxes is patriotic. Taxes will pay for the bullets,guns.trucks,planes,uniforms,boots,food and pay the soldiers a salary.

Patriotic and support our troops,easy to say that but I guess they don't really if they don't want anymore taxes.

just an observation

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actually, Sarah sounds like a genius
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Oct 23, 2008 12:20 PM   
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next to bottom-feeders like US Reps. Bachmann and Hayes.

jdfu!

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The horses mouth
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Posted by: GreyMatter on Oct 23, 2008 12:55 PM   
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"The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly."
John McCain

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Gay
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Posted by: Dboy on Oct 23, 2008 12:58 PM   
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Stating in no uncertain terms that being gay is a choice is an odd thing to do on mainstream, national television when medical and psychological associations have contended for years that sexual orientation is biologically determined.


The truth is that we still know really almost nothing about this topic. Sure we know there are these things we call "genes" which impact various aspects of who we are, but the problem is that we cannot say "gene X, causing the physical expression Y". It turns out that various genes have a subtle impact on the total outcome. The so-called "gay gene", the X928 gene, will probably turn out to be a very minimal part of the story. It's more likely that there are many factors that end up determining sexual orientation, and gay doesn't mean "wrong" anymore than left-handed means wrong. It just means it's a trait outside the fat part of a bell curve. There should be no value judgment or anything else attached to "gay", but as long as primitives such as Bush, Palin, etc are around and have power, there will be discrimination.

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Is anyone concerned about Palin's support for Pat Buchanan in the 2000 Republican Primaries.
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Posted by: yellow on Oct 23, 2008 2:20 PM   
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When she was Mayor of Wasilla, she welcomed Reform Party candidate Pat We-shouldn't-have-fought-the-Nazis Buchanan with firm support and held a fund raiser for his candidacy in the primary. She is doubtless closer in her views to the Nazi-sympathizing, right wing populist than she is to Bush. No I'm not upset because of the implications for Israel. Israel is safe under any administration. I am afraid of the mainstreaming of fascism as a political tendency in the US. McCain won't do this but Palin will. Alterneters need to wake the fuck up.

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"Thank God for X"
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Posted by: centure7 on Oct 23, 2008 3:03 PM   
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Clearly Alternet's authors are unaware of the expression "Thank God for..."

Sad really. I guess it stems from the fact they are anal retentive about any mention of God because they forgot about common sense and how people do bad things with or without religion.

People who believe religion is the source of most of our problems are shockingly delusional and lacking in everyday common sense. They are against the Iraq war but then by some mental lapse beyond my comprehension fail to see how terrorism is politically motivated in nearly all cases. In other cases it is simple revenge killing. That religion provides the final spark in many cases is irrelevant, as it could have easily been by other means if not through religion, because all of us who look at the facts realize it is US bad foreign policy that causes people overseas to hate us and *money* and *power*, not religion, that causes wars.

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Sarah Palin: ignorant, dishonest and delusional
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Posted by: Garvagh on Oct 23, 2008 3:21 PM   
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John McCain sure picked a game-changer! What an idiot (and a stooge of the neocons pushing for war with Iran and an imperial presidency that cannot be reined in by the Congress.

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omfg!! I just saw Sarah
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Oct 23, 2008 3:42 PM   
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try anything to dodge the following question: "do you think that someone who bombs an abortion clinic is a terrorist?"

thanx for the sharp follow-up question, Brian (not).

jdfu!

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I want to see a gutsy interviewer ask Palin one simple question:
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Posted by: Plexius2 on Oct 23, 2008 7:06 PM   
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"Why, in your 40's, did you choose to become pregnant, knowing that, due to your age, you were risking spontaneous abortion or a deformed fetus?"

I have yet to see an interviewer with enough backbone to ask why Palin make such a risky choice, especially in light of the fact that she already had four children, not only providing population replacements for her and her husband, but adding three more people to an already overpopulated world. And the fifth one will require a lot more resources to maintain than a non-handicapped child.

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Palin is a sell-out (even on her own terms)
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Posted by: David Baker on Oct 24, 2008 2:30 AM   
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The $150,000 spent on designer-ware is the single most important issue concerning Sarah Palin in this campaign.

On the one hand we hear her saying all this folksy stuff: "hockey mum", "Joe six-pack", "pallin' around". She's also continually telling us a story: that she's a small-town honest and hardworking American who's going to go down to Washington and sort them all out. That she's a real person unlike all the phonies in Washington.

On the other hand what we see is entirely different: a totally stage-managed campaign where even the "unscripted moments" are scripted. She's on a leash all the time. She's trained-up by the Republicans. She doesn't even get to wear her own clothes! She wears an incredibly expensive wardrobe the Republicans (the ones who are the government and the ones who she is supposedly standing up against) have fitted her out with.

This disconnect is also apparent in her speech. She keeps telling us how different she is, maverick, etc etc. At the very same time she keeps speaking not her own maverick ideas but Republican talking points. Even when she's talking about her own experience as Governor it sounds more like an endlessly echoed Republican talking point rather than a clear and persuasive explication of how her experience as a Governor equips her for the VC job!

Anyone who comes onto Alternet extolling the "genuineness" of the stuff she says must also EXPLAIN the orchestrated and phony nature of what we're all seeing, otherwise you are fair game for being called delusional or stupid.

I suspect what is going to happen is everyone will be hyper-conscious of what Palin wears for the next ten days or so.

The Republicans are in a bit of a pickle on this one. If they start decking her out in outfits that are a bit cheaper it means their one plausible defense of the $150,000: the double standard for female politicians in relation to "looks," goes out the window (because cheaper but acceptable outfits prove it's possible not to go to the contemptuous expense the Republicans went to). If they try to brazen it out and keep Palin in the expensive stuff (as I believe they should - they are the party of privilege), they run the risk of this being commented on for the rest of the election.

It is incredibly sad that a female VP candidate ends up in a situation where the single most important thing about her is her wardrobe, but it is an entirely logical outcome of the vapid and self-contradictory narrative the Republicans have manufactured. If Palin had any of the substance she claims to have the situation would never have arisen.

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Some of my best friends are gay, but...
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Posted by: Little Bear on Oct 24, 2008 5:46 AM   
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This was entertaining but I had to make a comment on Alternet's commentary:

"...medical and psychological associations have contended for years that sexual orientation is biologically determined..."

Homosexuality has not been said to be biologically determined. In 1973, homosexuality was taken out of the DSM as a mental disorder, due in part to a group of gay psychiatrists who anonymously held a panel discussion at the APA conference that year, discussing homosexuality while a large crowd of protesters pushed for removal of homosexuality from the DSM outside the doors.

Homosexuality hasn't been determined to be biological or environmental (learned), though theories have supported both sides at different times. It's really a moot point. It denies that our sexuality can change (because some fear that this would support things like the ex-gay movement) or that we have some choice (some feel we do choose our attractions, at least how we act on them)

Sorry it was just a clear statement that I felt needed to be expanded. This is not to say in any way that Palin is any more "right" in her attitude to homosexuality. I think she could use some serious education on the subject.

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Republicans never die, they just look that way......
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Posted by: richard0a37 on Oct 24, 2008 3:49 PM   
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Don't forget, in 2000, the present incumbent was ushered into the presidential palace by a vote of 3 to 2 by a bunch of judges. In 2004, the same fella was once again returned to the presidential seat because all the voting machines were rigged.

The powers-that-be are going to ensure that McPalin win, so it pays them to front a candidate who is sickenly awful, just so they can rub salt into the wound even deeper.

You could have 100% of those eligible to vote want Obama, but the voting machines will vote in McCain, just you wait and see.

As soon as McCain becomes president, he will be assassinated and Sarah will become president. Then she, too, will be replaced by that good looking broad with the big tits who happens to look just like Sarah. It will her task to seduce all the heads of state of other countries so that they can all be blackmailed and their countries held to ransom.

You think I'm joking, but since the world has gone insane, it doesn't matter one way or the other. We live on a planet that is basically one vast casino, a vice presidential candidate who is basically a buffoon and a moron, and the two taken together could not possibly be more apposite or diametrically supportive of each other.

The question you should all be asking yourselves is why have the powers-that-be pushed Sarah Palin into the limelight? This decision has nothing to do with John McCan as some people have suggested. The choice of Sarah Palin comes right from the top.

They obviously need someone in the Whitehouse who is totally impotent and ineffectual, someone who probably thinks Credit Default Swaps are coupons you use in a supermarket when getting 5% off a packet of cornflakes.

Besides, Sarah will make a good president just like George. In fact, she will make a better president than George.

Sarah Palin is a good choice because Obama is black, and the vast majority of Americans are racist whether they care to admit it or not, and they don't want a black president, even though he undoubtedly has all the right qualities.

So, the Klu Klux Klan will have their day and they will vote in mediocrity and stupidity of the highest order.

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Posted by: rav933 on Oct 24, 2008 9:38 PM   
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the failed economy of today is the direct result of the economic policies of the democratic Clinton regime and Alan Greenspan, what happened in the late 90’s as far as the US economic policies is the main reason for the downrurn seen a decade later. Ecomnomies are not driven by changes made a year or two ago but a result of changes with repurecussions a decade later. Which is why, we are in this dire strait, due to the democratic socialist policies of Clinton which were put into play by one Alan greenspan

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Make it a dozen
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Posted by: austintexas_1 on Oct 25, 2008 12:32 PM   
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It's hard to keep current with the downright stupid comments that Sarah Palin has made, but for my money the most blatant example is from her "policy" speech in which she mocked "fruit fly research in Paris France". Considering that the whole point of the speech was to tout the policy initiatives for special needs children, this particular sneer unwittingly revealed a depth of ignorance that is positively astonishing and absolutely breathtaking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCXqKEs68Xk

It seems like somebody in the McCain camp could take this idiot aside and explain to her exactly how "science" works, and maybe mention that the fruit fly is the most researched organism in genetic research to address problems such as autism.

(Oh, I forgot; Sarah Palin is one of those who believes that the world is only 6,000 years old, and that the "Flintstones" cartoon was a documentary, right? Maybe, instead of putting money into those silly science-y kind of things, she could use her position as "VeePee" to just make sure that everybody in the country just PRAYS REAL HARD, and God will be so pleased that He'll eliminate all those problems like Downs Syndrome and autism! Then we won't need those nasty scientists anymore, will we?)

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THE BUSH EFFECT
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Posted by: Jest2007 on Oct 25, 2008 12:47 PM   
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Palin's vp candidacy is horrifying. Is this a trend? Someone who is superficially "just like us" is capable of becoming president. Hopefully, this is just a blip on the radar. It is unfortunate that there are those in this country who believe that to be elite is a negative. We expect to be protected in conflicts by an elite military. Why shouldn't we want the president, who is commander in chief, to be elite; in other words, well-educated, experienced, worldly, etc. To me, Palin is emblematic of the dumbing down of America.

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Sarah's Seditious Friends
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Posted by: Jest2007 on Oct 25, 2008 12:59 PM   
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With all the sturm und drang about the Ayers issue, why hasn't more attention been paid to Governor Palin's past-membership in the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP). The AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler. The central purpose of the AIP is to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. In 1992 Vogler renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag...when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism. Palin attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to seceded from the United States and create an independent Alaska. She even gave the keynote address at the Aip's 2006 convention and recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention.

So when Palin accuses Senator Obama of "not seeing the same America as you and me," maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

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Posted by: TimS on Oct 25, 2008 9:13 PM   
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No no it's me...I'm in charge of all the senators today, not her. She is not ever getting that away from me, not even for a moose pelt

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Damning me to Hell
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Posted by: anneinTX on Oct 26, 2008 4:49 AM   
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One of Palin's dumber moments was when she declared that women who do not support her will all go to hell.

"There is a special place in hell for women who do not support other women."

She then added that she had read this tidbit of wisdom on a Starbuck's cup. Well, at least we know what she reads now.

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Posted by: samenzhen on Oct 27, 2008 6:17 AM   
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Best wholesale service, quick china wholesale delivery, nice wholesale products,

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U.S. Laws don't apply to Alaskans
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Posted by: l_double_e on Oct 28, 2008 12:28 PM   
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that's why she supports alaskan independence from the tyranny of the federal government, so even though she was found to have breached some pesky ethics laws by a republican controlled state congress, she can do what she wants. i'm curious about the personnel board, because she can email their private accounts from her private account and simply say "vote my way, or hit the highway"

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Posted by: missionlocal on Oct 28, 2008 5:13 PM   
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She has multiples.

will the read sarah palin please stand up at
misionlocal.org

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PALIN INTERVIEW WITH POEMS ON AFFAIRS OF STATE
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Posted by: rst253666 on Oct 29, 2008 4:57 AM   
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“I read all sorts of publications;
Especially the daily news.
My team supplies me with quotations
Specifically about the Jews.
About them teaming with the nigger
To sap this nation of its vigor
So when it comes to Judgment Day
We’ll all be dead because we’re gay.
That’s why I’m running on this ticket-
To see our kids remain co-ed;
And not start thinking God is dead.
If that seems like a sticky wicket,
I say to all beyond a doubt-
LET’S KII ’EM ALL THEN SORT IT OUT!”

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We did a good job here
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Posted by: PalinHater on Oct 29, 2008 11:07 AM   
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The Dems have done a great job.

T-shirts that say Palin is a C**T.

People yelling no T*Ts needed.

People making fun of Palin because she is a woman. Her clothes, being a mother, being from Alaska.

Surely this will put an end to women seeking office in the white house.

Clearly the dems have shown women are not qualified. We have done a good thing here.

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choice
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Posted by: Tarran on Oct 29, 2008 5:00 PM   
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Stating in no uncertain terms that being gay is a choice is an odd thing to do on mainstream, national television when medical and psychological associations have contended for years that sexual orientation is biologically determined. Then, she slimily criticizes that so-called "choice" by saying it is not one she would make. But hey, some of her best friends are gay ...


The essence of the choice argument is that heterosexuality is the biological norm, and that people choose homosexual acts.

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Just wondering....
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Posted by: BobNoxious on Oct 30, 2008 12:33 PM   
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So. Who do you suppose ACTUALLY chose Palin for the GOP ticket this year? We know McCain wanted Lieberman, but might have figured that bigots wouldn't vote for a jew. John knew Sarah about as well as I know my insurance agent (hardly at all). They could have had any of the more experienced Repub women pitching a 'you betcha' mentality.

Who actually told McCain that Palin would be his running mate?

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what happened to Alternet?
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Posted by: 10wwjd29 on Oct 30, 2008 2:51 PM   
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Has anyone else noticed that the articles and stories reported by Alternet have slowly deteriorated in quality and insight? Perhaps my increasing awareness of global events and the new world order has shed a different light, for me, on what is happening..

For those who are interested in exploring the profound complexity and disturbing web of events on a much deeper level (beyond PARTISAN POLITICS!!!):

Google:
From the Wilderness -- Information Clearing House -- Alex Jones -- Illuminati -- David Icke

From there, good luck. The situation is much more deeply embedded in a global elite power structure than anything Alternet has ever posted. Break out of the political prison -- this whole thing has been a scam from the beginning!

BLESSINGS TO ALL! WE SHALL OVERCOME!

(Anything less than a collective spiritual revolution will not bring about the changes we seek! For atheists on this website, I am sorry. For you have been brainwashed the worst!)

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Dan Quayle lookin good
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Posted by: CommonWealth on Oct 23, 2008 12:31 AM   
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Never thought I would say there is someone dumber than Dan Quayle, but Sarah Palin has done a fine job at it, gosh, gee-whiz, golly!

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It's embarassing...
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Posted by: Moira61 on Oct 23, 2008 3:15 AM   
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that this woman is second on a ticket (thank heavens it's the republican ticket - I guess God wanted it that way). I love seeing the latest polls stating that this dimwit is the main cause of McCain's tanking campaign. I love seeing him get so damned annoyed these days with anyone who questions him on the choice of Palin. What the hell did he expect?

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AlterNet - move on please
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Posted by: weathered on Oct 23, 2008 3:16 AM   
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She's a sad, shallow symptom of just how soul sick we are as a nation.

Address geo-political recovery, acts of responsible innovation, let her go there's nothing that will be missed.

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Posted by: tlees2 on Oct 23, 2008 3:35 AM   
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How can you leave out that she's a expert on Russia because you can see Russia from Alaska?

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Dear Alternet Staff - You're gonna feel stupid about this
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Posted by: Dex on Oct 23, 2008 3:52 AM   
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Not defending Palin for all her stupidity, but the VP is the president of the Senate. This is what the Constitution says (courtesy of Brad DeLong):


Now I am thinking that I must be really stupid. The Constitution reads:

I§3: The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided. The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States...

The Vice President of the United States is the President of the Senate. That means he sits up front. He has the gavel. He chooses who gets to speak next. He chooses when to gavel them to sit down. He makes procedural rulings--which can be overruled by a simple majority vote, it is true, but he makes procedural rulings.

It is true that the Vice President has not traditionally exercised his powers to be President of the Senate. If the President were to tell the Veep to exercise them, it would piss the Majority Leader off--and the Minority Leader too to the extent that the Minority Leader hopes to someday become Majority Leader. But we could someday have a Constitutional Moment, couldn't we? The Vice President could show up and take the chair, right? And then call on and recognize whomever he or she chose and only whomever he or she chose for just whatever purposes he or she chose--and the Veeps decisions would stick, to the extent that he or she was sustained in rulings by fifty-one senators.

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Sarah has a thousands charms
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Posted by: bitsfick on Oct 23, 2008 4:18 AM   
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to captivate my heart,
her lovely eyes art Cupid's arms
And every look a dart;
But when the beauteous idiot speaks,
she cures me of my pain,
Her tongue the servile fetters breaks
And frees her slave again.

With thanks to Amphion Anglicus 1700

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Laurence
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Posted by: peaceyogi on Oct 23, 2008 4:53 AM   
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The idea that Earth is only 6,000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs were here together. That would mean that all the means by which we are able to age things are not true, either because they are lies by God, were created by God to mislead us, or the Laws of Nature, which our understanding of allows us to have electricity, telescopes that allow us to see and age galaxies, computers, telephones, airplanes, cars, etc., function randomly or don't really exist, resulting in a universe that is completely without order.

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What oh what will Sarah do????
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Posted by: Michel on Oct 23, 2008 5:04 AM   
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Pehaps after the Repubs LOOSE on Nov 4 she could try out to replace Vanna White on the Wheel of Fortune.......wait...I forgot, she has to go back to governing Alaska. Good luck up there..

Can she please take Rove with her. I think there is a special place for him burried in the snow at the north pole.

Close your eyes...and envision a kinder gentler world after 11/4. :-)

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Reappearing Sarah
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Posted by: Michel on Oct 23, 2008 5:32 AM   
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Don't count on it...looking ahead to 4+ years down the road she will have more experience...she willl know what she needs to know, she digs power---I predict we have not seen the last of her. We'll need to be ready when that comes up down the path.

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Gaffe - o - matic
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Posted by: Karl.Ben on Oct 23, 2008 5:32 AM   
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""The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does"" that not what she said. She said she believes in God and his hand in events.. So does about 80% of America! The media has gone over the top in attacking and trying to discredit Palin who is a real success story. Look at the set up from CNN yesterday when they interviewed her.

It has become disgusting to watch regardless if you support her or not. Sexism in this country far outweighs racism and it is apparent in watching our media! They hammered Hillary and are hammering Palin! Any one see anything regarding Cynthia McKinney? Nothing!

The media is swaying public opinion toward Obama and essentially driving this election the way THEY want it! Like the two party system has served us well in the past. Americans continue to believe the two party system is good vs evil instead of evil vs evil!

Now, if you want TRULY DUMB statements one need look no further than loveable Joe Biden!

It's patrotic to pay taxes
hillary was a better choice for VP
Sum up the campaign in one THREE letter word - JOBS!
If Obama is elected he will be tested in a big way.
demanding a disabled person to stand up when he was wheelchair bound.

Biden on Obama: “I mean, you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”

"" “you cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.”""

I now I'm missing a few good ones but THESE are dumb statements! Check out the net, there are hundreds of them, many on video!

Then there's Biden's law school plagiarism and he had plagiarized speeches from a British politician, substituting in key details to make the story his own. Not exactly honest guy!

He makes Palin look like presidential material. Talk about judgement on Obamas part. At least Palin brings a successful record of governorship and fighting her own party. Considering the repubs are as dishonest as the dems , this is a good thing! No one else except maybe McCain can even claim that!

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Only 11 ??
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Posted by: newsound on Oct 23, 2008 5:36 AM   
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How about EVERY time she opens her mouth.

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#12: "Circle of Protection"
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Posted by: Overburdened Planet on Oct 23, 2008 5:39 AM   
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Palin's full speech

I'm too tired of all of this to make a comment.

Anyone else interested?

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Palin belives she will see the "end of days"
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Posted by: bthespoon on Oct 23, 2008 5:40 AM   
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...in her lifetime, and she may get to have her finger on the trigger that would end everything for everyone (except the special few who get to go to that special bunker in the ground).

She literally believes this. The irony is that figuratively if she and the old guy get elected, it will surely be the end of daylight and one long cold night in America. I pray she doesn't get the chance to literally make her vision come true.

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None of this matters to her followers
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Posted by: taxidriver on Oct 23, 2008 6:00 AM   
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We should capture these absurdities and inanities, as long as we remember they don't matter to her admirers. They just see "someone like me," even though she and the "first dude" are worth over $1 million, and of course she and the GOP spent 150K on a new wardrobe, more than most of her admirers make in three years of hard work at the factory of your choosing.

Maybe it's because some people actually imagine they could be Sarah Palin, i.e. with a little luck, some fancy clothes, and some warrior prayer power, they too could be VP.

And that is a scary thought.

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Do not exaggerate
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Posted by: sbratteng@gmail.com on Oct 23, 2008 6:41 AM   
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It makes your work seem more biased and less reasonable when you exaggerate what someone says. For example, in Palin's comment on being in charge of the Senate: your headline used the word supreme, which she had not used. By trying to make her look even worse than she is, you weaken your credibility.

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Republican disdain for the voter
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Posted by: ibolyap on Oct 23, 2008 6:44 AM   
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It really saddens me to see the stupid and ugly events of this election. Do the Republicans have so much disdain for the voter that they think that they can select any cardboard cutout of a person and get elected? They are debasing their party and they deserve the sweeping out that they are going to get this November.

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Lilly
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Posted by: Lilly on Oct 23, 2008 6:59 AM   
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Since the news broke that when P gave her nasty Convention speech she was wearing a $2500 Valentino jacket then later appeared at the Convention wearing a $2250 outfit from Neiman-Marcus, that $4100 has been billed for her hair and makeup, that $92 was spent for a baby outfit for Trig, that Todd wears $5000 worth of RNC money, that that the total bill for Palin family clothing runs to $150,000, and that Sarah went to a governors' conference where the meeting lasted 5 hours but she stayed 4 nights and 5 days in a $700 per night hotel so she could give her daughter a little vacation in New York and bill it to the state---all of this excess while telling us how much she loves the common man---deja vu, deja vu. As a girl I lived in Argentina. I've heard this song before. It was called "Evita". And it wasn't a musical.

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Posted by: ClassAct on Oct 23, 2008 7:16 AM   
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A moose in every pot!

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Anti-intellectualism v. Anti-ignorance
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Posted by: peacelf on Oct 23, 2008 7:20 AM   
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This article is childish, immature journalism.

No doubt Sarah Palin lacks insight and knowledge on subjects important for the role of possible president of the U.S. She has demonstrated that on many occasions. However, calling her "dumb," "stupid" etc. is demonstrating the same tit for tat name calling, and worse, divisive politics that has proven dangerous these past eight years.

Let's consider: 1) Sarah Palin is intelligent enough to be elected governor of, yes, a sparsely populated state, but elected nonetheless.
2) The polls already showed the public concern for Palin's ability to govern our nation, as her favorability has dropped dramatically since her fist appearance at the RNC.
3) Name calling and character assasination are tactics of the right, and it is proving more damaging to the party that utilizes these tactics. Moreover, McCain's attacks this time are racist besides being utterly false and many people see and understand the dangerous consequences.
4) Last, I am tired of the anti-intellectualism that has permeated our culture for the past 28 years. But, I will not play the same game by calling out someone's ignorance on a particular subject with low road political tactics.

We should never blame people for their ignorance, but we can challenge them to be more honest and forthright in their politics and service to the people. And, if we do our job well, trust that the voting public will see the truth.

Moreover, left-leaning journalists should turn that same critical eye on the Democrats, who for too long have sold the american worker short and allowed...indeed, participated in policies that created this economic crisis our nation is experiencing, and give third party candidates a fair shake.

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9. I read...all the Publications
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Posted by: Portlyric on Oct 23, 2008 7:21 AM   
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This may be the most frightening of all. A real freebie. She couldn't answer this question because she doesn't read. If Bush had bothered to read the national security briefings that were sent to him in Crawford, while he was on an extended, taxpayer funded vacation, measures could have been taken that would have prevented 9/11.

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Palin was a great choice
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Posted by: vkobaya1 on Oct 23, 2008 7:24 AM   
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I have to say, McCain's choice of Palin really was dismaying as I thought she was about the worst person he could nominate. Now, I'm not so sure. If McCain loses, Palin may well be the millstone that drowned him. It has always been said that the vice-presidential candidate really had only a very minor effect on the outcome of the race, but in this case, Palin may be his Waterloo. Have to say, as long as he loses, I applaud this choice though it is almost unimaginable if he should steal the election. Palin being a faltering, stuttering heartbeat away from the presidency is probably enough to make Russia check out and ready their nuclear missiles to say nothing of what other nations around the world think. Maybe even Britain and France might double check how easily their missiles can be retargeted across the Atlantic. Would be better to get it over with quickly in an all out nuclear war than to set up the sort of drawn out worldwide catastrophe that would result from a Palin presidency. Would make Bush look like a genius and wonder boy, world statesman and leading guru for world peace. Canada would consider if there was any possible way to leave North America and migrate to South America.

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Let's keep our fingers crossed
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Posted by: Don Pablo on Oct 23, 2008 7:49 AM   
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Let us not bash Sarah Palin too much. It might prompt John McCain to dump her and pick Joe Lieberman in her place, a ticket that might be difficult for Barack Obama to beat.

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Dan Quayle & Sarah Palin
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Posted by: sunlakedude on Oct 23, 2008 8:21 AM   
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It's obvious where the Republicans get their VP picks. If the presidential candidate is old or not particularly good looking they pick a younger, good looking person to "balance" the prez. So it was with Dan Quayle and now Sarah Palin. You gotta admit, they are pretty nice-looking people. Ready to take over the job as President of the United States? Not really, but, looks is what it's all about.

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S.A.R.A.H. P.A.L.I.N.
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Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Oct 23, 2008 8:21 AM   
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S=scum
A=arrogant
R=revolting
A=assinine
H="Ho" [political variety]

P=piece of shit
A=asshole
L=liar
I=inculpably ignorant
N= NO FUCKING WAY ON 11/4/08 or ever!

Next!

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I have no idea how you did it
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Posted by: JohnJlws on Oct 23, 2008 8:28 AM   
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I have no idea how you narrowed the list to eleven, but you did a great job. Thanks for the chuckle.

Now, back to the phones--have to Get Out The Vote! There's simply no way this can be our representative to the world.

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Perhaps you should look at Joe Biden
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Posted by: Kristal on Oct 23, 2008 8:32 AM   
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Mr. 3 letter word JOBS. Geez I can't imagine what you would have done to Sarah had she said that, not to mention the fact that good old Joe said we'll have an international crisis due to Obama being president. Everyone is afraid of Sarah Palin because she does have power, and she has a lot of us supporters behind her that ARE praying for her and our country. She is a very smart woman and is the only canidate that has executive experience governing over the American people, and she did a fabulous job doing that. No one wants to report on that. I see no articles asking how she cut property tax, business tax, and her own Salary as Mayor in order to give a 1300.00 check to every resident? How she has managed to work with these oil companies and come to an agreement with billion dollar deals. No, no one wants to talk about the REAL SARAH PALIN, the liberal biased media choose to focuse on the hightened reality (as SNL would call it) they have created, because she is a threat to the great messiah.

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Well......
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Posted by: ptoddchesser on Oct 23, 2008 8:50 AM   
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Karl.Ben has pulled his head out of his ass long enough to comment here..... at least salt-of-the-earth hasn't seen fit to grace us with his presence.....

I remember when Dan Quayle said he wouldn't be making a trip to Latin America with the president because he didn't speak Latin... I think Palin has the ability to top that on the stupidity scale.... we still have 12 days and she has plenty spilling out of her piehole.

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What about Karl Obama?
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Posted by: throck on Oct 23, 2008 9:01 AM   
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Palin's communication style should not worry us as much as Obama's plan to "redistribute the wealth." Now THAT'S a gaffe. Or is it?

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The only trigger I want Sara Palin's finger to be on
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Posted by: keefus55 on Oct 23, 2008 9:04 AM   
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...is a blender.

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I read all of them!
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Posted by: beastfan on Oct 23, 2008 9:40 AM   
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I had so hoped that all 1500 (I don't know the exact number) newspapers would have simultaneously sent complimentary issues to her office in Alaska.

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America's Teachers' Rewards Are in Heaven (not on Earth)
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Posted by: xvictor on Oct 23, 2008 9:48 AM   
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Palin's religious beliefs meshes neatly with that attitude. Clerics, in collusion with the wealthy interests, throughout history had that stance towards the lower classes living in misery. In other words, so they say, there's nothing to be done to improve your lot in life and society overall while you are living. Just wait until after you're dead and things will be better for you in heaven. And don't rock the boat while you are alive because the privileged upperclasses might get distressed. They like things the way they are. Typical Repugnican.

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Politician or God? Not much difference for some
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Posted by: lbrlw13 on Oct 23, 2008 9:50 AM   
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When people are taught about God, they are taught that he is all powerful, all knowing, can heal, and is good. When someone questions why bad things happen if the above is true, the answer he/she gets usually has something to do with God's plan. When asked for more details about this plan, the person is told that he/she can't understand the plan, but to trust that God has one, and on and on and on.... So, basically, you are expected to trust in a God that is good, powerful, etc..., but when you point out the holes or inconsistencies, you have people finding any reason or explanation to continue believing and supporting this God.

Same with Palin & the GOP. We liberals, can point out the facts all we want (she doesn't have enough experience, she says stupid things, McCain's a flip-flopping war-mongerer, McCain doesn't know what he's doing, you're voting against your own economic self-interest, etc..etc...) But, in the end, just like with God/religion, the true believers will form an emotional attachment and find any excuse to justify their choice...No matter how irrational.

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Posted by: allviews on Oct 23, 2008 9:55 AM   
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Any comments about Biden stating that Franklin Roosevelt was on tv?

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Church and State
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Posted by: mtc on Oct 23, 2008 10:03 AM   
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Some of the opinions referred to as "stupid" are really just expressions of her faith. She shares those opinions with many, many people and probably most of her supporters. Fine, her religion is her business BUT -- but -- in our country we're in theory protected from the fusion of church and state. The woman is dangerous because she's clueless but also because she's dragging her religion into the political arena. Every speech refers to God or prayer and if, goddess forbid, she were elected, her religion would affect education, health, the Supreme Court, and the environment. Whatever she does in her private life is her business, but, please, keep it between consenting adults…

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Once Upon A Time In America
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Posted by: Doyle Wheeler on Oct 23, 2008 10:16 AM   
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Once upon a time truth and honor did shine. It was a way of life for many you see, honor stood as King, while truth was the Queen! It was how a man was measured not by his size, but rather if he was truthful or lied! But times have changed I fear, for no longer is honor or truth revered!

Honor became passe, while truth just went to it's grave! Heroes became those that shined, in movies or sports and even in crime! Ethics and integrity were lost along the way, political spin took their place!

Now lawyers rather than law rules the day, if you're rich enough innocence's is a foregone verdict away!
Life has become a series of lies, of our heroes committing more serious crimes! Until now there is no longer any surprise, at how low men and women will go to enjoy their lives!

Will honor ever return as King? Will truth come back as our Queen? Surely not without an innovation from us all , for they're both near death where they once stood tall!

For hundred of years Truth and Honor served us well, as pillars of strength between Heaven and Hell! Strengthening those pillars should be man's goal, if we are ever to get back America Soul!

I wrote this a few years back and somehow it seems to me that it's more important today than any other time in our history. Friends, fellow Americans we really need to stop and think for a moment. Is there any bottom to the depth that McCain and Palin will sink too to try to win the Presidency?

Truth went out the window first and it is so far gone in the attacks each day by McCain, Palin, and the republican party, that shame on them just doesn't seem like its a strong enough thing to say anymore. Honor, they have none at all, they called Senator Obama everything but a Black man. They viciously attack anyone that endorses him, such as the very honorable General Powell.

McCain was supposed to be this big war hero, this man has no honor period! I'm not sure he or Palin even have the slightest concept as to what honor actually means. The rest of the so called republicans have demonstrated that they are little more than a large gathering of closet racist that feel embolden to come out of the closet and scream racist, hateful, and threatening ugly speech!

I believe that America can bring back truth and honor but it clearly will not happen if McCain and Palin are elected.
Both Senator Obama and Senator Biden are honorable men, truthful men, good examples for our young people.
The thought of McCain or Palin trying to set an example for the young people in America should shock everyone into voting for the ticket of Obama & Biden. We need to bring decency, integrity, ethics, truthfulness and honor back to the office of the presidency. Once there perhaps the trickle down theory might work. Elect two people that can and will lead by example, of honor and truthfulness, who knows it might catch on again. Would that be a wonderful benefit to electing two great men to turn our country around in more ways than just those that are obviously needed?
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Bad for women
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Posted by: CM76 on Oct 23, 2008 11:10 AM   
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She has been one of the most disgraceful role models for young women of today. Women have worked very hard for decades to be taken seriously in a world that has been dominated by men, and yet here she is winking at the camera. It's bad enough that what she actual has to say has little worth and then adds injury to insult with that folksy back woods talk.

So when people say that this VP selection is a milestone for women everywhere, I say speak for yourselves. I look at it as one big fat leap into the past. It's a shame, really.

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Personally, I am DONE wasting any more time talking aboout Palin!
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Posted by: Voicedude on Oct 23, 2008 11:32 AM   
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A few weeks after the election is over, American history's most under-qualified, major-party candidate will slip back into obscurity. After her disasterous appearances in the national spotlight, I'll bet she'll have some trouble getting re-elected. Face it, her career peaked with the GOP convention, and it's a solid downhill ride from there.

I would, however, like to make to unrelated points from here:

The first is with point #8 and teachers. I was married to a teacher for a long time. She mostly taught in the public sector, but also taught in a prestigious private sector as well. She was a music teacher, often one of the first casualties when budget cuts came down. During this time, I was actively involved in ALL aspects of the inner workings of the educational system from the 'trenches'. (I'm still involved, just not from the inside any more.) I give all these 'credentials' to make this point:

Not all teachers are so poorly underpaid. Some, like my ex, have done pretty well. The shortage of funding, however, is directly reflected in the classrooms. They are commonly shortchanged on funding for materials, books, and most other ways of helping the teachers do their jobs. That's where the true shortage of educational funding lies! The teachers have unions and lawyers to look out for their best interests. The students have only US!

Second, and completely unrelated to anything else on this subject, is with CBS consistantly reporting that the AP newswire claims it's a neck-and-neck race, with Obama's lead down to less than 1%. This flies in the face of all the other info we have out there, and I don't mean 'fringe' information, either!

My point is this: I have many staunch Republican friends who now have just about ALL admitted that McCain will lose. I mean, when the arrogant, purple bandaid wearing, lying, election stealing, win at all costs right wing actually brings themselves to admit their own defeat, why would any news ageny (other than Faux News, of course) bother to say otherwise? I have a feeling now that many GOP supporters will do in this election what so many disillusioned Dem supporters have done in the past: stay home and not even bother to vote.

Sorry to bring these unrelated points up here, but does anyone else have a take on these two points?

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Also
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Posted by: halsparks on Oct 23, 2008 11:35 AM   
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I recommend that anytime you create a list of Sarah Palin quotes that you at least respect her enough to use the word "also" between every point, Just like she does. It really gives it that Palin feel, You betcha ;)

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Was that a typo?
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Posted by: Crazy H on Oct 23, 2008 11:41 AM   
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"The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, God Does"

Shouldn't that be: "The People Don't Elect U.S. Presidents, GOP Does"?

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It's all part of a plan, don't you see?
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Posted by: GreyMatter on Oct 23, 2008 11:43 AM   
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These liberal media elites are eating way too much brie and hatefully missing the obvious fact that Sarah is blessed.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets $150,000 in free clothing.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets 64 free rides on commercial airlines for her kiddies at state expense

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to use an Alaska King Air plane while taking credit for selling the Alaska jet (at a loss).

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to claim state per diem while at home.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah can be informed without reading anything.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to put her husband in the governor's office to make badgering calls to pesky state employees who won't fire a relative.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to call herself Christian while spreading distortions and lies about her opponents.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to deduct her husband's snow machine sport from her taxes and fly her family to the events at state expense.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets witches cast out, gays healed and speaks in tongues in Wassilla's Pentacostal Church.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah lives so close to Russia and has become such an expert.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah must be shielded from probing by media except for God's channel...Fox News, bless its heart.

It's part of God's plan that Sarah gets to "run" the Senate as VP.

No doubt Liberal media atheists don't get it. Well go ahead and imagine that dinosaurs existed before the Bible. Soon you'll realize that the Iraq war and Sarah's imminent presidency are all part of God's certain plan!

Amen

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Supports our troops?
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Posted by: Stephen R on Oct 23, 2008 12:01 PM   
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We always hear how the Republicans support our troops and how patriotic they are, they say it day in and day out, especially McPain and Faillin.

It's easy to say you do but actions speak louder than words. Has she paid out of pocket for a flack Jacket? Has she donated anything to help them?

Then they talk about how crazy it is to raise taxes in a time like this. Where do they think the money for keeping our troops in Iraq will come from? Where do they think money to fix the road,bridges and govt. buildings is going to come from?

Biden said it right. Paying your taxes is patriotic. Taxes will pay for the bullets,guns.trucks,planes,uniforms,boots,food and pay the soldiers a salary.

Patriotic and support our troops,easy to say that but I guess they don't really if they don't want anymore taxes.

just an observation

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actually, Sarah sounds like a genius
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Oct 23, 2008 12:20 PM   
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next to bottom-feeders like US Reps. Bachmann and Hayes.

jdfu!

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The horses mouth
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Posted by: GreyMatter on Oct 23, 2008 12:55 PM   
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"The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly."
John McCain

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Gay
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Posted by: Dboy on Oct 23, 2008 12:58 PM   
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Stating in no uncertain terms that being gay is a choice is an odd thing to do on mainstream, national television when medical and psychological associations have contended for years that sexual orientation is biologically determined.


The truth is that we still know really almost nothing about this topic. Sure we know there are these things we call "genes" which impact various aspects of who we are, but the problem is that we cannot say "gene X, causing the physical expression Y". It turns out that various genes have a subtle impact on the total outcome. The so-called "gay gene", the X928 gene, will probably turn out to be a very minimal part of the story. It's more likely that there are many factors that end up determining sexual orientation, and gay doesn't mean "wrong" anymore than left-handed means wrong. It just means it's a trait outside the fat part of a bell curve. There should be no value judgment or anything else attached to "gay", but as long as primitives such as Bush, Palin, etc are around and have power, there will be discrimination.

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Is anyone concerned about Palin's support for Pat Buchanan in the 2000 Republican Primaries.
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Posted by: yellow on Oct 23, 2008 2:20 PM   
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When she was Mayor of Wasilla, she welcomed Reform Party candidate Pat We-shouldn't-have-fought-the-Nazis Buchanan with firm support and held a fund raiser for his candidacy in the primary. She is doubtless closer in her views to the Nazi-sympathizing, right wing populist than she is to Bush. No I'm not upset because of the implications for Israel. Israel is safe under any administration. I am afraid of the mainstreaming of fascism as a political tendency in the US. McCain won't do this but Palin will. Alterneters need to wake the fuck up.

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"Thank God for X"
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Posted by: centure7 on Oct 23, 2008 3:03 PM   
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Clearly Alternet's authors are unaware of the expression "Thank God for..."

Sad really. I guess it stems from the fact they are anal retentive about any mention of God because they forgot about common sense and how people do bad things with or without religion.

People who believe religion is the source of most of our problems are shockingly delusional and lacking in everyday common sense. They are against the Iraq war but then by some mental lapse beyond my comprehension fail to see how terrorism is politically motivated in nearly all cases. In other cases it is simple revenge killing. That religion provides the final spark in many cases is irrelevant, as it could have easily been by other means if not through religion, because all of us who look at the facts realize it is US bad foreign policy that causes people overseas to hate us and *money* and *power*, not religion, that causes wars.

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Sarah Palin: ignorant, dishonest and delusional
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Posted by: Garvagh on Oct 23, 2008 3:21 PM   
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John McCain sure picked a game-changer! What an idiot (and a stooge of the neocons pushing for war with Iran and an imperial presidency that cannot be reined in by the Congress.

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omfg!! I just saw Sarah
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Oct 23, 2008 3:42 PM   
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try anything to dodge the following question: "do you think that someone who bombs an abortion clinic is a terrorist?"

thanx for the sharp follow-up question, Brian (not).

jdfu!

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I want to see a gutsy interviewer ask Palin one simple question:
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Posted by: Plexius2 on Oct 23, 2008 7:06 PM   
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"Why, in your 40's, did you choose to become pregnant, knowing that, due to your age, you were risking spontaneous abortion or a deformed fetus?"

I have yet to see an interviewer with enough backbone to ask why Palin make such a risky choice, especially in light of the fact that she already had four children, not only providing population replacements for her and her husband, but adding three more people to an already overpopulated world. And the fifth one will require a lot more resources to maintain than a non-handicapped child.

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Palin is a sell-out (even on her own terms)
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Posted by: David Baker on Oct 24, 2008 2:30 AM   
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The $150,000 spent on designer-ware is the single most important issue concerning Sarah Palin in this campaign.

On the one hand we hear her saying all this folksy stuff: "hockey mum", "Joe six-pack", "pallin' around". She's also continually telling us a story: that she's a small-town honest and hardworking American who's going to go down to Washington and sort them all out. That she's a real person unlike all the phonies in Washington.

On the other hand what we see is entirely different: a totally stage-managed campaign where even the "unscripted moments" are scripted. She's on a leash all the time. She's trained-up by the Republicans. She doesn't even get to wear her own clothes! She wears an incredibly expensive wardrobe the Republicans (the ones who are the government and the ones who she is supposedly standing up against) have fitted her out with.

This disconnect is also apparent in her speech. She keeps telling us how different she is, maverick, etc etc. At the very same time she keeps speaking not her own maverick ideas but Republican talking points. Even when she's talking about her own experience as Governor it sounds more like an endlessly echoed Republican talking point rather than a clear and persuasive explication of how her experience as a Governor equips her for the VC job!

Anyone who comes onto Alternet extolling the "genuineness" of the stuff she says must also EXPLAIN the orchestrated and phony nature of what we're all seeing, otherwise you are fair game for being called delusional or stupid.

I suspect what is going to happen is everyone will be hyper-conscious of what Palin wears for the next ten days or so.

The Republicans are in a bit of a pickle on this one. If they start decking her out in outfits that are a bit cheaper it means their one plausible defense of the $150,000: the double standard for female politicians in relation to "looks," goes out the window (because cheaper but acceptable outfits prove it's possible not to go to the contemptuous expense the Republicans went to). If they try to brazen it out and keep Palin in the expensive stuff (as I believe they should - they are the party of privilege), they run the risk of this being commented on for the rest of the election.

It is incredibly sad that a female VP candidate ends up in a situation where the single most important thing about her is her wardrobe, but it is an entirely logical outcome of the vapid and self-contradictory narrative the Republicans have manufactured. If Palin had any of the substance she claims to have the situation would never have arisen.

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Some of my best friends are gay, but...
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Posted by: Little Bear on Oct 24, 2008 5:46 AM   
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This was entertaining but I had to make a comment on Alternet's commentary:

"...medical and psychological associations have contended for years that sexual orientation is biologically determined..."

Homosexuality has not been said to be biologically determined. In 1973, homosexuality was taken out of the DSM as a mental disorder, due in part to a group of gay psychiatrists who anonymously held a panel discussion at the APA conference that year, discussing homosexuality while a large crowd of protesters pushed for removal of homosexuality from the DSM outside the doors.

Homosexuality hasn't been determined to be biological or environmental (learned), though theories have supported both sides at different times. It's really a moot point. It denies that our sexuality can change (because some fear that this would support things like the ex-gay movement) or that we have some choice (some feel we do choose our attractions, at least how we act on them)

Sorry it was just a clear statement that I felt needed to be expanded. This is not to say in any way that Palin is any more "right" in her attitude to homosexuality. I think she could use some serious education on the subject.

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Republicans never die, they just look that way......
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Posted by: richard0a37 on Oct 24, 2008 3:49 PM   
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Don't forget, in 2000, the present incumbent was ushered into the presidential palace by a vote of 3 to 2 by a bunch of judges. In 2004, the same fella was once again returned to the presidential seat because all the voting machines were rigged.

The powers-that-be are going to ensure that McPalin win, so it pays them to front a candidate who is sickenly awful, just so they can rub salt into the wound even deeper.

You could have 100% of those eligible to vote want Obama, but the voting machines will vote in McCain, just you wait and see.

As soon as McCain becomes president, he will be assassinated and Sarah will become president. Then she, too, will be replaced by that good looking broad with the big tits who happens to look just like Sarah. It will her task to seduce all the heads of state of other countries so that they can all be blackmailed and their countries held to ransom.

You think I'm joking, but since the world has gone insane, it doesn't matter one way or the other. We live on a planet that is basically one vast casino, a vice presidential candidate who is basically a buffoon and a moron, and the two taken together could not possibly be more apposite or diametrically supportive of each other.

The question you should all be asking yourselves is why have the powers-that-be pushed Sarah Palin into the limelight? This decision has nothing to do with John McCan as some people have suggested. The choice of Sarah Palin comes right from the top.

They obviously need someone in the Whitehouse who is totally impotent and ineffectual, someone who probably thinks Credit Default Swaps are coupons you use in a supermarket when getting 5% off a packet of cornflakes.

Besides, Sarah will make a good president just like George. In fact, she will make a better president than George.

Sarah Palin is a good choice because Obama is black, and the vast majority of Americans are racist whether they care to admit it or not, and they don't want a black president, even though he undoubtedly has all the right qualities.

So, the Klu Klux Klan will have their day and they will vote in mediocrity and stupidity of the highest order.

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Posted by: rav933 on Oct 24, 2008 9:38 PM   
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the failed economy of today is the direct result of the economic policies of the democratic Clinton regime and Alan Greenspan, what happened in the late 90’s as far as the US economic policies is the main reason for the downrurn seen a decade later. Ecomnomies are not driven by changes made a year or two ago but a result of changes with repurecussions a decade later. Which is why, we are in this dire strait, due to the democratic socialist policies of Clinton which were put into play by one Alan greenspan

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Make it a dozen
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Posted by: austintexas_1 on Oct 25, 2008 12:32 PM   
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It's hard to keep current with the downright stupid comments that Sarah Palin has made, but for my money the most blatant example is from her "policy" speech in which she mocked "fruit fly research in Paris France". Considering that the whole point of the speech was to tout the policy initiatives for special needs children, this particular sneer unwittingly revealed a depth of ignorance that is positively astonishing and absolutely breathtaking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCXqKEs68Xk

It seems like somebody in the McCain camp could take this idiot aside and explain to her exactly how "science" works, and maybe mention that the fruit fly is the most researched organism in genetic research to address problems such as autism.

(Oh, I forgot; Sarah Palin is one of those who believes that the world is only 6,000 years old, and that the "Flintstones" cartoon was a documentary, right? Maybe, instead of putting money into those silly science-y kind of things, she could use her position as "VeePee" to just make sure that everybody in the country just PRAYS REAL HARD, and God will be so pleased that He'll eliminate all those problems like Downs Syndrome and autism! Then we won't need those nasty scientists anymore, will we?)

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THE BUSH EFFECT
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Posted by: Jest2007 on Oct 25, 2008 12:47 PM   
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Palin's vp candidacy is horrifying. Is this a trend? Someone who is superficially "just like us" is capable of becoming president. Hopefully, this is just a blip on the radar. It is unfortunate that there are those in this country who believe that to be elite is a negative. We expect to be protected in conflicts by an elite military. Why shouldn't we want the president, who is commander in chief, to be elite; in other words, well-educated, experienced, worldly, etc. To me, Palin is emblematic of the dumbing down of America.

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Sarah's Seditious Friends
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Posted by: Jest2007 on Oct 25, 2008 12:59 PM   
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With all the sturm und drang about the Ayers issue, why hasn't more attention been paid to Governor Palin's past-membership in the Alaskan Independence Party (AIP). The AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler. The central purpose of the AIP is to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. In 1992 Vogler renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag...when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism. Palin attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to seceded from the United States and create an independent Alaska. She even gave the keynote address at the Aip's 2006 convention and recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention.

So when Palin accuses Senator Obama of "not seeing the same America as you and me," maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

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Posted by: TimS on Oct 25, 2008 9:13 PM   
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No no it's me...I'm in charge of all the senators today, not her. She is not ever getting that away from me, not even for a moose pelt

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Damning me to Hell
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Posted by: anneinTX on Oct 26, 2008 4:49 AM   
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One of Palin's dumber moments was when she declared that women who do not support her will all go to hell.

"There is a special place in hell for women who do not support other women."

She then added that she had read this tidbit of wisdom on a Starbuck's cup. Well, at least we know what she reads now.

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Posted by: samenzhen on Oct 27, 2008 6:17 AM   
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U.S. Laws don't apply to Alaskans
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Posted by: l_double_e on Oct 28, 2008 12:28 PM   
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that's why she supports alaskan independence from the tyranny of the federal government, so even though she was found to have breached some pesky ethics laws by a republican controlled state congress, she can do what she wants. i'm curious about the personnel board, because she can email their private accounts from her private account and simply say "vote my way, or hit the highway"

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Posted by: missionlocal on Oct 28, 2008 5:13 PM   
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She has multiples.

will the read sarah palin please stand up at
misionlocal.org

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PALIN INTERVIEW WITH POEMS ON AFFAIRS OF STATE
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Posted by: rst253666 on Oct 29, 2008 4:57 AM   
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“I read all sorts of publications;
Especially the daily news.
My team supplies me with quotations
Specifically about the Jews.
About them teaming with the nigger
To sap this nation of its vigor
So when it comes to Judgment Day
We’ll all be dead because we’re gay.
That’s why I’m running on this ticket-
To see our kids remain co-ed;
And not start thinking God is dead.
If that seems like a sticky wicket,
I say to all beyond a doubt-
LET’S KII ’EM ALL THEN SORT IT OUT!”

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We did a good job here
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Posted by: PalinHater on Oct 29, 2008 11:07 AM   
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The Dems have done a great job.

T-shirts that say Palin is a C**T.

People yelling no T*Ts needed.

People making fun of Palin because she is a woman. Her clothes, being a mother, being from Alaska.

Surely this will put an end to women seeking office in the white house.

Clearly the dems have shown women are not qualified. We have done a good thing here.

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choice
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Posted by: Tarran on Oct 29, 2008 5:00 PM   
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Stating in no uncertain terms that being gay is a choice is an odd thing to do on mainstream, national television when medical and psychological associations have contended for years that sexual orientation is biologically determined. Then, she slimily criticizes that so-called "choice" by saying it is not one she would make. But hey, some of her best friends are gay ...


The essence of the choice argument is that heterosexuality is the biological norm, and that people choose homosexual acts.

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Just wondering....
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Posted by: BobNoxious on Oct 30, 2008 12:33 PM   
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So. Who do you suppose ACTUALLY chose Palin for the GOP ticket this year? We know McCain wanted Lieberman, but might have figured that bigots wouldn't vote for a jew. John knew Sarah about as well as I know my insurance agent (hardly at all). They could have had any of the more experienced Repub women pitching a 'you betcha' mentality.

Who actually told McCain that Palin would be his running mate?

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what happened to Alternet?
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Posted by: 10wwjd29 on Oct 30, 2008 2:51 PM   
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Has anyone else noticed that the articles and stories reported by Alternet have slowly deteriorated in quality and insight? Perhaps my increasing awareness of global events and the new world order has shed a different light, for me, on what is happening..

For those who are interested in exploring the profound complexity and disturbing web of events on a much deeper level (beyond PARTISAN POLITICS!!!):

Google:
From the Wilderness -- Information Clearing House -- Alex Jones -- Illuminati -- David Icke

From there, good luck. The situation is much more deeply embedded in a global elite power structure than anything Alternet has ever posted. Break out of the political prison -- this whole thing has been a scam from the beginning!

BLESSINGS TO ALL! WE SHALL OVERCOME!

(Anything less than a collective spiritual revolution will not bring about the changes we seek! For atheists on this website, I am sorry. For you have been brainwashed the worst!)

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