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Readers Write: 12 Stomach-Turning Revelations About Sarah Palin

By AlterNet Staff, AlterNet. Posted October 16, 2008.


AlterNet readers respond to the latest evidence of just how bad Sarah Palin is for an office that puts her a heartbeat away from the presidency.

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Over the weekend, a perfectly good PR opportunity was ruined for Sarah Palin when the audience at a Philadelphia hockey game booed the Alaska governor during the ceremonial dropping of the puck.

Philly hockey fans have not been the only ones to loudly express their disapproval of Palin in recent weeks. The VP candidate's spiraling drop in popularity is reflected in polls, in the press and among prominent conservatives -- by everyone, that is, but the die-hard fans who still eat up Palin's forced folksiness at campaign events.

Palin's drastic loss of support has been driven in large part by the endless revelations about her competence and character that have emerged since her nomination -- revelations that can't be glossed over with frantic winks and "you betchas."

Last week, AlterNet compiled yet another list of stomach-turning new facts about Palin, ranging from her attempts to undermine trust in Obama with racially tinged rhetoric to her shady history as governor of Alaska.

AlterNet's readers had a lot to say about the latest evidence of just how bad Sarah Palin is for an office that puts her a heartbeat away from the presidency. We've compiled some of the best reader comments below.

Many of our commenters were especially incensed by Palin's recent character assaults on Barack Obama. Several readers attacked the unfathomably skewed logic used by both Palin and McCain in their attempts to paint Obama as dangerous:

Bgroat makes the point that by McCain and Palin's standards, McCain would be considered a "terrorist":
... the fact that McCain has worked with Obama for the past four years puts him in the same boat. In other words, they can't paint Obama as a terrorist using their logic without simultaneously painting McCain as one, as McCain, through working in the Senate with Obama, has done exactly the same thing they accuse Obama of doing (associating with former member of the Weather Underground Bill Ayers).
Waimea Witch agrees, pointing out that if we judge politicians by their "associates," we should be deeply concerned that every Washington senator is on the verge of lobbing bombs at federal buildings:
... Senator Robert Byrd is an ex-KKK member, so, does that make every member of the Senate a domestic terrorist by association?
Purple Girl invokes yet another fine illustration of the maxim about stones and glass houses, pointing out that unlike Barack Obama, Sarah Palin actually shares the ideologies of many domestic terrorists:
Sarah has some Ideologies which are akin to some rather notorious Domestic Terrorists -- McVeigh (hated U.S. Govt too), Charlie Manson (End Of Dayer, with Death Valley as the "Refuge"), and of course the "Pro Lifers" who thought nothing of Bombing Planned Parenthood Clinics, assassinating MD and Blowing a Pipe bomb Off in the middle of the Atlanta Olympics. Strike 3 Sarah, YOU ARE A BONAFIDE SOCIOPATH. Terrorist Doctrines spew out your mouth, and have been unearthed from your Recent History.
Jest2007 highlights another worrisome aspect of Palin's history: her connection to the Alaskan Independence Party, a radical organization that calls for Alaska's succession from the United States:
Maybe this would be a good time to examine Palin's association with the AIP. The AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler. The central purpose of the AIP is to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. In 1992 Vogler renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag ... when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.
dayahka optimistically argues that all the recent revelations about Palin are essentially irrelevant, since soon enough the Alaska governor will disappear from the national spotlight:

Palin will shortly return to Alaska and will probably be recalled, impeached, censured, and/or jailed. But what of the reckless fool who put this scum on the national scene?
But Truthteller is less optimistic, writing that despite Palin's recent embarrassments, she could still help the Republican ticket pull in a last-minute win:
I've been saying for a long time that I believe the fix is in and McCain is going to "win" another stolen election. I just couldn't see how they could get it close enough to steal before the Palin selection. Now, I can. All the arguments are in place to explain away the theft like they were four years ago -- religious voters make last-minute turnout surge, they don't like talking to exit pollers, or lie to them to fuck with the results.
Tom Degan agrees, pointing out that there's nothing new about Republicans appealing to their base with incompetent candidates:
Twenty years ago, Poppy Bush nominated a man who had all the substance of a department store mannequin -- and yet the GOP won that election! The Democrats have every reason to be cautious. Given the American people's absolute genius for doing the wrong thing in the voting booth, anything can happen between now and Election Day -- and probably will.
Lreal also argues that while Palin's methods are detestable, they may turn out to be effective:
The history books of the future will show that the Republicans from 1980 to present and probably at least 10 years into the future is a party of dangerous demagoguery. Sarah Palin, and the acceptance by the majority of people in her own party shows that a demagogue mentality can get you far within this sector of the population no matter your true and obvious intellect. This also shows that if you can magnify this demagogue quality, then it can replace intelligence as a matter of accepted quality; and any opponent with a bit of intelligence is a liberal elite, no matter how much more humble they are than the subject.
Spritgirl writes that McCain and Palin are resorting to the usual Republican tactics: using Rovian character assaults to get bad candidates into office:
... the McShame/Failin ticket should not be rewarded for their efforts! These tactics of appealing thru peoples fears are straight out of the Lee Atwater/Karl Rove book, they are despicable and dangerous! Since they cannot run on the issues, they should both just sit down and shut up!!! These are extremely desperate attempts by two very unqualified individuals to get into the Oval Office! Their theory of divide (the body politic) and conquer appeals to those sheeple that want to be led around, and hopefully they will lead themselves and their sheeple off a cliff!
Whether or not the McCain campaign's tactics will be successful in swaying voters, McCain's desperate gambit to include and keep Palin on the ticket -- despite the unending stream of revelations throwing her character into question -- has added a terrifying component to the election.

As John Orford writes: "AlterNet is giving me sleep problems ... I keep dreaming McCain died and then I can't get back to sleep."

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What Palin lacks most to be a heartbeat-away commander-in-chief.
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 16, 2008 1:10 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Leadership ability and Senator McCain knows it, having been trained in the art at the U.S. Naval Academy. But then, John finished fifth from the bottom of his 800-man class, which may explain why he picked Pathetic Palin for his running mate.

Earlier in McCain's "Country First" campaign, he said, "I want a vice president who is ready to be commander-in-chief on day one!" Had he selected someone like Tom Ridge, a Vietnam veteran, former Pennsylvania governor and ex-Homeland Security chief, Obama would probably be hopelessly behind in the polls right now. But McCain couldn't help himself. Rather than put America first and acting like a principled patriot, he became a pandering politician who only cared about winning the November election.

Finally, if you're an undecided voter, please learn more about Unfit McCain and his treasonous POW record by clicking on: Vote Against McCain (one of the HOTTEST anti-McCain sites on the Web)

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» Begone, Repubic-hair Posted by: LMNOP
» RE: thinking fast Posted by: kiel
» ...is a heart Posted by: LMNOP
Well, you know, we all want to change the world....
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 16, 2008 1:11 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In 2000, all the exit polls had Al Gore winning Florida. Four years later, the polls had John Kerry winning Ohio.

Today all of the polls have Barack Obama winning this election decicively - some of them in a landslide.

Be certain of this: If the Republicans are able to steal this election - again - there will be a Revolution - COUNT ON IT.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
George and Osama's October "Surprises"

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Sarah Palin is a disaster
Posted by: beingajoe on Oct 16, 2008 3:34 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Not that I am for McCain, but she ruined an already unsteady campaign. She is America's biggest inside joke and she is not in the in crowd. She does not seem to realize that she is a joke. By the way, here is a website I found that shares all the Sarah Palin dirt to support Barack Obama!

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» RE: You tell 'em salt-of-the-earth! Posted by: lovercat2942
» RE: Illuminati??? Really? Posted by: Purple Girl
» RE: You tell 'em Purple Girl! Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Common Ground Posted by: Purple Girl
» RE: Trashy Posted by: Jo1028
» RE: Trashy Posted by: salt-of-the-earth
» So... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» RE: So... Posted by: rinthy
» Ummm.... Posted by: AuntBec
» WTF????!!!???..... Posted by: ptoddchesser
» I get it, this is a parody Posted by: sliver
» RE: Got a Lil' garden of my Own Posted by: Purple Girl
Alaska may want to reconsider.....
Posted by: xvictor on Oct 16, 2008 5:08 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
....S. Palin has become the national butt of jokes and this can only embarass the people and great state of Alaska. They now know stuff about her that they weren't aware of before and it doesn't look good. Perhaps, if they're smart, they could demand a recall and oust her from the governorship for good. It has been done before in other states.

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» The "Party" is over Posted by: Karl.Ben
» RE: The "Party" is over Posted by: PakiBoy
» RE: The "Party" is over Posted by: AuntBec
» RE: The "Party" is over Posted by: freshlemon
» RE: The "Party" is over Posted by: Karl.Ben
Sarah's got a fan in Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher
Posted by: sausage on Oct 16, 2008 6:37 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm sure Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher, besides being a McCain supporter, is a big fan of Sarah Palin--and why wouldn't he, she's got a nice *ss, after all--since he and she think alike.

Here's a few high...er...lowlights from a BBC News, http://news.bbc.co.uk,profile of Joe "the Plumber" Wurzelbacher.

After the debate, Mr Wurzelbacher told CBS News that being mentioned in the campaign was "surreal" but that Mr Obama's answer to his question had left him feeling uneasy.

"I've always wanted to ask one of these guys a question and really corner them and get them to answer a question... for once instead of tap dancing around it.

"And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance... Almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr," he said.


And
"Robin Hood stole from greedy rich people and redistributed it to the peasants, so to speak, so if he's calling us peasants, I kind of resent that," he said.

He added that the American dream for him was "you work hard. You're going to get what you want eventually... I just resent the government or Barack Obama's plan to take more away from me."


Don't feel sorry for Joe. He wallows in his ignorance like it's perfumed bubble bath.

Ya know something, Joe, if I were a banker and you came to me for a loan to buy that plumbing business, I'd turn you down. You're just too stupid to be running anything on your own.

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» 4 more years of "Bush plus" Posted by: Karl.Ben
» Congress will be OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRAT. Posted by: salt-of-the-earth
» Given the topic at hand... war... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» Rush Limbaugh, excuse me? Posted by: salt-of-the-earth
» Join the club! Posted by: Karl.Ben
» RE: Join the club! Posted by: maxpayne
» RE: Join the club! Posted by: Karl.Ben
I think we should strike one from the list
Posted by: popsicle67 on Oct 16, 2008 6:56 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I actually am sympathetic to the separatist movement in Alaska, at least as far as the native Alaskans being tired of idiots like Stevens being crammed down their throat or not being able to manage their own land as they see fit.

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Scary
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 16, 2008 7:39 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Palin and McBush are like two peas in a pod. god help us all if they win next month!

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Truth in art. . . ?
Posted by: stevehamlin on Oct 16, 2008 8:12 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
When I hear that Palin is "the most popular governor" the Robert Service poem comes to mind. . .

http://www.robertwservice.com

The one about the "race of men that don't fit in."

Can popularity with people who self-select to be self-styled social outcasts really be a reliable qualifier for national political leadership?

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AlterNetters Smart, Insightful
Posted by: jmmartin on Oct 16, 2008 8:20 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
These shrew, sharp, insightful comments by AlterNet readers demonstrate what a fine bunch of subscribers you have. I learned more about Sarah Failin' that I really wanted to know, having long ago given up on anything said by a silly twit who thinks an African witch hunter can catapult her into the Veep's office. Not.

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Already counted out
Posted by: Democritus on Oct 16, 2008 10:39 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Some analysts after last night's debate wondered why Obama didn't go for the knockout when asked whether he thought Palin was qualified. In saying that it was "up to the American public," he implied what at least 75% of us already know--that she is supremely unqualified. When your opponent is down for the count, you don't have to throw another punch.

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» RE: Already counted out Posted by: Karl.Ben
ChicagoRailroader
Posted by: Plowhandle on Oct 16, 2008 4:52 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Why hasn't anyone commented about the most obvious lie Palin has attempted to foist on America - that she is the Mother of Trog, who is obviously her daughter Bristol's offspring ?


Bristol disappeared from school for ten months last year - Sarah didn't look knocked up AT ALL up to one month from TROG"S supposed birth - and NOW Bristol is supposedly admitting to being knocked up by CrackerTrash Levi Johnson.


Do the Google Image Search thing on Sarah for the last year and see how she WAS NOT pregnant.


How does her LYING to 'protect' her already RUINED daughter's reputation make any sense ?


I guess HillBillies aren't just in the Lower 48, South of the Mason-Dixon Line!



Sure shouldn't set well with Fetus-Worshipping Baptist Cracker Trash that claim that the Republiturd Party is the Party of Jayzussssssssss and the Party of Pre-Teen Abstinence, now does it ?!




Nonsense! They're eating this crap up in SpoonLoads !

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» RE: Get the poor child's name right. Posted by: carcinoid112
I dunno
Posted by: 4changenow on Oct 16, 2008 8:10 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I believe I heard (from a reputable news organization, or so I hear) that John Stewart
(via multiple examples)summarizes Sarah as really just a "she bush" To me that explains why we can't have anymore wanna be bushies near any buttons or really anything relatively difficult.

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PALIN
Posted by: BIGMARC on Oct 18, 2008 11:44 AM   
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Is TODD PALIN the TRUE ALASKA GOVERNOR ????,
my question !

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The OTHER Plumber
Posted by: mnissenson on Oct 18, 2008 6:25 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I find it amusing, in a nauseating sort of way, that -- for all her ranting about Obama "palling around" with Bill Ayers, sanctimonious Sarah Palin's own running mate is chummy with one of the most notorious domestic terrorists in America.

This guy was a plumber, long before Joe -- to the extent Joe's a plumber at all. (Apparently the senator is just as shoddy at vetting heroes as he is running mates.) Moreover, THIS other one has already had a year and a half of fame for each of the fifteen minutes Joe will get.

The more newsworthy guy I'm talking about is G. Gordon Liddy -- one of the original Watergate plumbers. He didn't just bomb a building. He robbed American citizens of their innocence. He left us forever unable to believe in our President. We may have been a lot more naive back then -- but the power and grandeur of our dreams more than made up for any hayseeds in our hair.

John McCain makes no bones about his friendship with Liddy... claiming he "served his time" and, therefore, "must be considered repentant." Well, here's a newsflash: Bill Ayers ALSO served his time and, unlike Gordon Liddy, turned HIMSELF in. He did not wait for the authorities to arrest him. (Just in case you're keeping track, it saved the taxpayers money... no matter which income bracket they fell in.)

Moreover, few senators have worked harder to protect people who bomb abortion clinics than McCain has. He has repeatedly voted NOT make their acts federal crimes -- as well as to give them leeway to come within just a few feet of already traumatized clinic patients.

The Senator has also been known to socialize with many of the same men and women of Wall Street whose irrepressible, rapacious avarice has come dangerously close to bankrupting America. (If THAT isn't domestic terrorism, what IS?)

Add Sarah's secessionist frends in Alaska -- and her witch-hunting preacher in Wassila who, almost got a woman killed, running her out of her village in Africa. Funny how, once you cross party lines, one man's pals looks like another man's psychopaths.

McCain and Palin ought to know. They've crossed a a lot of lines, recently -- most notably, the line between hearty criticism and hatemongering. Any candidate is entitled to lob his best shot at his opponent. But here's a little clarification: you completely lose that entitlement when you aim for your opponent's heart and start slinging mud.

I don't think there's any question that, what McCain and Palin have REALLY been doing, is trying to make the Democratic candidate seem frightening, based on completely fictitious inferences they encourage voters to make about Obama's race and/or ethnicity. It's not enough, in other words, that they villify this very decent guy; they have to simultaneously offend millions of Muslim and/or Arab Americans.

To do that, under ANY circumstances, would be reprehensible. It's outright grotesque, however, When you consider that John McCain's OWN ADOPTIVE DAUGHTER is from a predominantly Muslim country. (Whether or not she's actually Muslim doesn't matter. Let's not fall into the racist trap of thinking we somehow "exonerate" Bridget McCain by proving she was born or raised Christian. Her father has already offended more than enough innocent victims, by offering precisely that kind of lame-brained "defense" of someone "accused" of being Arab on the campaign trail.)

I do feel especially sorry for Bridget. Her only "offense" was to have been born in impoverished Bangladesh. How must it have felt to hear daddy's operatives imply Obama MUST be a terrorist because his middle name just happens to be "Hussein." Personally, I think it ought to strip McCain of all bragging rights to decency and patriotism... not to mention cast one hell of a long shadow over any image we may have had of John McCain as a family man.

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The truth about Palin.
Posted by: nesstoria on Oct 18, 2008 8:07 PM   
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Palin is an,
uneducated,unqualified,uncompassionate,narcissistic,full of hate,predjudice,jugdemental,lieing,hypocritical,out of touch,cheating,unremorseful,dangerous,person that I've ever met in my lifetime.These are the qualities that she has demonstrated since late September.We absolutely DO NOT NEED or WANT a being,with these evil qualities,in any town,city,county,state or federal office in our beloved country.In my opinion,when you no-longer posses the human qualities,compassion and remorse you quit being human and become beast.

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