...where might we find these hot, smart older women.

I'm 50 and all the women my age seem to look like my mother did at 50.

Believe me, she was older then, might have been smart, but hot - um, not on your life.

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Marg Helgenberger as Catherine Willows on CSI.

My dream episode would be where she goes to CSI: Miami, grabs those friggin' sunglasses away from David Caruso, and smashes them to bits with her heels.

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I only tell this story for the shock value.

Okay, we're waiting...For the shock value, that is.

Now at 26, I refuse to even look at women that are over 23.

It's amazing at how much wisdom (and discrimination!) can be gained in five years.

There is nothing that compares to a firm ass, and perky breasts.

Ahh, the voice of experience speaks! But, dude! It seems that you're just the perfect example of what these so-called cougars prey upon: young, shallow, young.

Good luck when you get to 31.

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Nihilist, maybe yer "10th drink" had something to do with yer choices that night.

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just askin'.

jdfu!

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We all thought we were mature at 26, believe me. At that age you are guided by your glands whose main purpose is to lead you to finding a mate to procreate with. Whether you're down with that in your intellect or not, that is what's going on.

After a few years with tight assed, perky breasted princess girls who need a daddy for them and their potential children, and having hopefully learned a bit about real love making with your "side women", new horizons open. Women at ages that seemed old in your 20s are startlingly beautiful now and the best lovers you'll ever have. You'll wonder how you could have been so blind.

P1

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And GOD WILL PUNISH YOU by keeping you miserable and single !

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My assistant is 71, is fit, dresses fabulously and still attracts much younger men; too bad for them she's been marrried over 50 years..to the same guy!

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There's nothing shocking about that story. Disgusting? yes. Pathetic? Absolutely. And it has nothing to do with the age difference. It's disgusting and pathetic because getting drunk and having indiscriminate sex with strangers you meet in bars is incredibly STUPID. PLEASE get yourself tested for all STDs and especially HIV! Don't spread that shit around! Be responsible. Use condoms.

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you are a loser. Period.

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Sorry honey, but "firm ass" sounds like a gay fetish to me, and "perky breasts" are the things that makes pedophiles hard. Grow up, get help and come out of the closet.

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I realize you stuck your neck out then received a serious beat down by a lot of guys, horny.... sorry, Honky. (Freudian slip...*blush*)

That's why my advice is to save this thread from your post to the indomitable end and re-read it at 36, bringing up your triggering event experience as well. When you re-read it I guarantee you'll laugh your ass off and nod even at the most castigacious responses your post earned.

We've all been there, dude. We all thought we were hot shit. Truth is, you're young. Nothing wrong with it. Take it on the chin. I guarantee you'll learn a lot in the next decade that'll make better sense of what we have to say now about your post.

FWIW, there are plenty of seriously smokin' hot women in their forties who are plenty firm, even naturally so, in all the right places and "softness" just means "flexible" in the very best ways. Not to mention the experience base and skill sets are VASTLY improved (think that 18 y.o. with 2 years of skills was hot.... just you wait till she's 45, dude). Either that or we just have the very finest of physically appealing women in California. I dunno. But even then, as YOU age, soften, get wrinkles, etc. you find out that even those things in a partner can be non-issues, even appealing.

Now say, "thanks, Dad" and go back to work.

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And when the day comes that men make the little details like maintaining a home and family as important as work, and don't simply blissfully ignore them, assuming the woman in their life will take time away from her work to maintain the home front, maybe this will happen.

Until then, he ignores it. If she spends as much time working as he does, then those tasks simply don't get done. If they don't get done, then it's her fault of course, because having a vagina automatically makes you want to piss away your own chances of having a decent income so your home life can be comfortable. (I'm not bitter. Really.)

Those tasks aren't simply fun kiddie organization activities. They're everything that needs to be done that he can't do because he's at work - and won't do when he's not. Her overtime and weekends are unpaid work that would be utterly meaningless on her resume.

It would really be nice to leave that world. It's 2008.

Pardon the heterocentrism there; the bones of that gendered binary role infrastructure are the reason for this situation to begin with.

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Shouldn't you be posting somewhere else? There's lots of forums for angry, ugly, sociopathic losers like yourself. You'd probably be more at home with other misfit assholes with "issues"...
You needn't concern yourself with women of any age, because I can't imagine that anyone (except maybe a crack whore or another desperate loser like yourself) would want anything to do with you.

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I work with many women. It is hard long phyical work. The women earn the same wages as I and when they get into a bind doing their job because of something being heavy, etc....we men come to their "rescue".

Women should get the same pay as men wen they do the same type of work...this I strongly believe...but while performing the same type of work ( such as what I see everyday in my example above ).....

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Turn the tables on that one for a minute, pal... You try carrying, birthing and caring for kids all day, 24/7, cleaning the domicile and shopping for food and preparing the meals and being "ready for sex" at all times. then be told that you're not doing "real work"...

This is a crock and as a fellow man, I'm really surprised at you for believing such nonesense.

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And may GOD PUNISH YOU TO ETERNAL DAMNATION by keeping you a MISERABLE SINGLE FOR THE REST OF YOUR GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING LIFE ! Go to Iraq where you belong !

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hey Honky the Nihilist.
You could use some English lessons. Didnt thry teach you how to write in MAN school? I guess ignorence is bliss with you.

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I can tell you don't actually work in an office. Where did you ever get the idea that men don't leave early and skip meetings to attend their children's social functions? Certainly the men in my office do.

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I absolutely adore hot older women like Sela
Ward and Diane Lane, but they are not "cougars."

The word has not been redefined. Inherent in the definition of "cougar" is the animal's status as a predator.

A hot, older woman who is not a predator is a MILF or a GMILF.

Ask any 18-year-old man about this. If you're an older woman and they tell you different, they're trying to be polite.

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um, I'm still single and childless, and in a previous job (where I was also single and childless) I worked the overtime and weekends you mention.

I was employed as a temp for 5 years in a fortune 500 company, in the same role as several men in my workgroup but with a lower ranking title. I worked longer hours than them, was paid less, and was not promoted (let alone given health benefits like they were). I feel fortunate now to work for a company where I am compensated fairly for my efforts, because I know from several previous jobs that this is not the norm.

Michele

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... are you done yet?

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You must be god to have such omniscience and omnipresence. Or you are utterly blind.

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Shut the fuck up already.

You're giving all us guys with a brain above our necks a bad name.

I can only imagine the horror of the poor women who have to spend their lives knowing they had sex with you. I only hope they are able to keep it to themselves.

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Ascetic -- "one who devotes himself to a life of solitude and contemplation...and practices such methods as celibacy, fasting, and self-mortification."

That doesn't exactly describe MY college years! Perhaps you meant, "asthetic?"

Your vocabulary is as alarming as your ignorance and misogyny.

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and then....( not in all cases obviously ) but then...when a divorce comes along...guess who is given custody of the kids??? Well its mom of course. Is dad ever just GIVEN custody?? Oh hell no!. Dad has to scrap and fight with eerybody in the syetem, including the ex.

Its odd that many times the mom will say the dad ( the ex ) didnt do this with the kids or didnt do that...BUT...at the same time she wants good old dad to just be regulated to a 2 weekend a month part time dad.

How much money in child support do they then as for??? Oh about as much as they can get away with and use the kids as the crutch to get it. Now, many moms are in the worforce and they STILL want control ( custody ) over the kids. Even though they are out working like a man and not staying home with the kids.

A thing that really gets to me is this. A young man and a young woman meet. The man took the time to go to college; invest time,money & effort to study, graduate and then land a decent paying job. The young lady however, may, not make those choices to better herself or to have atleast a little bit of a skill or education in case unforeseen circumstances come up in the future.

When a divorce hits, in many many cases, this same type of lady ( or mom ) wants it all. She wants the bank accounts, the cars, the house, the control over the kids ...if any.....and in the past she could even ask and get 'spousal support'.

If a woman wants eqality in the work force, they should see the obvious and not be so damned selfish when it comes to raising the kids that both 'produced'.

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jdfu!

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At 36, I am WAY hotter than I was when I was 20. I get hit on by guys in their early 20's almost daily. I'm always thinking, and sometimes saying, "where were you when I was 22?"

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Just because you thought with your dick and got into a bad situation, don't go generalizing and slandering all women based on your pathetic experience.

Go out and meet people and get away from that TV before you start to look like you sound.

P1

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All women are not as you describe though Honky. Sure. some can fit into this box but Life is more dynamic. Women from other countries and regions of the World can be far different than your experinces with American women. Broaden yer horizons perhaps.

If 'americanized women' arent yer cup of tea, try others from a different culture..ones that have a different perspective on what's important in Life.

I'm not suggesting the popular theme of mail-order-brides..thats for sure, but maybe plan a trip to Morocco, Egypt, Brazil or Indonesia. Spend some time absorbing the cultures and meeting the people.

I am very satisfied with a young lady from Java. She's Chinese but was born in Indonesia.

Dont blame all women because of a bad experience..if that's the case. All is not hopeless.

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I have taken a perverse delight in smashing every stereotype that has ever been attached to me and I encourage every other woman to do the same. It's very liberating.

If you met me, you would probably guess *wrongly* that I was in my mid-30's, that those were maybe my little blonde-haired nieces, that I have some kind of artsy-fartsy job and that I am just a naturally athletic and outgoing regular gal.

Word up:

Pot is better than botox for removing frown lines.

In fact almost all "beauty" products are toxic crap that will either damage your skin/hair or give you cancer or both.

Fresh air does wonders everytime.

Alcohol is the #1 date-rape drug (do you really want to be at the mercy of assholes like honky here), not to mention that it is INCREDIBLY aging. And it does kills brain cells, which you might want to save for the "intelligent" part of "intelligent and sexy".

Speaking of intelligence, it is passed through the X chromosome, meaning boys get their intelligence through their mother (I am not making this up) and girls have an equal chance of inheriting from either parent. So unless you plan to marry for money, don't feel obliged to marry the nerd when you could have a studly trophy husband.

Religion is the #1 tool of the male oppressor. All our lives we have been trained to look to the male authority on spiritual matters, even if it is the man in the white coat telling us that all is reducible to science. Firstly, the fact that the universe works according to physical laws means nothing. It doesn't explain how the universe got here to begin with and we are still confused about the exact nature of matter; physics is becoming more mystical by the day. Secondly, the intuitive, life-giving part of the woman is the true manifestation of Spirit in this physical reality; religion seeks to repress the Inner, Ultimate Authority within us in favour of an external male authority who tells us what is or is not acceptable.

In all misogynistic cultures, including ours, women are taught to be subservient. We depend on our appearance, on MEN, for approval. Outspoken women are criticized. Palin is an exception to this because she is such an obvious parrot, she does not pose a "threat" in the traditional misogynistic sense.

Wouldn't it be lovely if all women just woke up tomorrow thinking for themselves?

Best wishes for your journey ;.)

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OR is over 35 just "old" when you're female? Can we finally dispense with these odious, sexist double standards?

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I am tired of looking at the world through the lens of barely post-pubescent male eyes.

Older? What is older? Certainly at 60, I do not view 35 as "older". "Hot"??? Who cares? If women would quit, as another poster said, worrying about looking good for the men they "have to" impress, they would be able to do a lot more good. Not to mention saving a ton of money.

Not saying to abandon health and hygiene, but to abandon the artificial standards of beauty set forth by the media and beauty industry.

You know what beauty is? It is self confidence and joy. If all a guy is looking for is tight buns and perky boobs, then HE has the problem, not the women he "rejects".

But I see most of the initial comments were from men talking about "hot" women. Sheesh.

I don't advocate for either gender being slobs, but women should not be held to a higher standard in the looks department than men. Some have good genes, some don't, most cannot afford the plastic surgery that keeps the stars looking young (not to mention the risks). Maybe someday we will really learn not to judge books by the covers. (I hope.)

Oh, and to that 26-yo troll: Some of the women you reject may not be drop-dead gorgeous, but they may have really beautiful personas. You, my friend, have a very ugly soul, and that is much, much worse. You are going to have a very shallow and unhappy life if you don't learn to look deeper than the skin. You, too, will get older. ;-)

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No more than Eva Braun.

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Every moment
I try to remember
the light af
an hidden report,
when my memory
outshines, when
your love disappears....

Francesco Sinibaldi

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And that comes from both men and women who are intolerant. I'm sick and tired of women being made the sex role models whereas men are supposed to be macho sports models. It's a disgrace and it really damages both sexes in the long run both mentally and even health wise. Trust me, I grew up a teenager in the 1980s and an adolescent in the 1990s to understand what this other side of the gender divide was all about. I remember the days I faced persecution when I was one of the guys who didn't stick to being macho and moderated even a bit.

Sadly, men are supposed to get more money but less fashion freedom while women are supposed to earn less money but get more fashion freedom and yes, today women can wear just about anything men can wear including ties !

By the way, men used to be dressed like today's women in the Middle Ages, hint hint.

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I am a 54 year old man and I love women in my age corhort. I would NEVER dream of dating a twenty-something woman. The only thing a 25 year old can do for me, is to introduce me to her mom! I don't even consider dating women under 40. ( Ok, there have been a few 35-39, but I have regretted each one). Women 40+ are staying fit, less inclined to have neurotic body image issues, and frankly, when it comes to sex, they know what they are doing and know what they like. In my view, the hottest actresses in Hollywood today are all over 40 -- Diane Lane, Halle Berry, Helen Mirren, Tamara Tunie, Virginia Madsen, Meg Helgenberger, Monica Bellucci, Geena Davis, Catherine Bell, Cathereine Zeta-Jones and the list goes on and on.

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..."Borderline Mary Kay Latourneau" is more appropriate.

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Awesome information!!! We here at Top99women.com love the fact that there are experienced women out there. Knowing a guy is found attractive and interesting from a more adult point of view can be a real turn-on. Besides, some more mature women tend to have other interests in mind besides just how there shoes match their outfit ;)

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With a tremendous amount of Americas wealth and control in the hands of our self indulgent 40/50 plus females. There is always a large queue of either mommy fixated worshippers or toyboys ready to do their bidding. I suggest a good navel examination, and less 'god'essing. Especially stay away from the gynocratic idiot box. I do know quite a few extremely well balanced sensually and sexually self contained females. Others are mostly one step short of detox or a straight jacket.

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Older Women are sexy and I like to see them naked...

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