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How Low Will Palin Go in Her Mudslinging?

By Robert Parry, Consortium News. Posted October 8, 2008.


Palin may not even understand the significance of her baseless attacks on Obama that are straight out of the neocon playbook.

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Sarah Palin's charge that Barack Obama is "palling around with terrorists" may mark the descent of Campaign 2008 into the sewer that has marked so many other recent U.S. elections. But her comments operate on another level, too, continuing to brand anyone who criticizes George W. Bush’s neoconservative foreign policy as un-American.

The Alaska governor's larger point -- made in her Oct. 2 debate and on the campaign stump since then -- is that Obama is a person who dares to find fault with U.S. policies overseas and thus deserves to have his patriotism questioned.

"Our opponent," Palin told Republican supporters during a post-debate speech in Colorado, "is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

Palin added about Obama, "This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America. We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism."

It's unclear if Palin understood the full significance of her reference to American "exceptionalism," the theory preached by the neoconservatives who led her debate prep. They argue that the United States has the exceptional right to operate outside international law. But Palin does grasp the political usefulness of smearing an opponent in the style of Jeane Kirkpatrick, who in 1984 famously defined critics of Ronald Reagan's aggressive foreign policy as people who would "blame America first."

Palin is, in effect, labeling Obama a blame-America-firster. In the vice presidential debate, Palin twisted Obama's 2007 analysis of U.S. military strategy in Afghanistan -- which called for more troops on the ground to reduce reliance on air strikes that had killed civilians -- into him condemning everything the U.S. military has done in Afghanistan.

"Barack Obama had said that all we're doing in Afghanistan is air-raiding villages and killing civilians," Palin said. "And such a reckless, reckless comment and untrue comment, again, hurts our cause." With the blessings of John McCain's campaign, Palin then expanded on this "character" assault against Obama by citing his tenuous connection to former Vietnam War-era radical William Ayers as well as recalling the controversy over Obama's former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

Though McCain has in the past decried this sort of personal smear tactic -- especially when he was the victim in 2000 -- his campaign has announced, rather openly, its intent to go negative on Obama in a guilt-by-association barrage in the weeks before Nov. 4.

New Assault

Several top Republicans told the Washington Post that "McCain and his Republican allies are readying a newly aggressive assault on Sen. Barack Obama's character, believing that to win in November they must shift the conversation back to questions about the Democrat's judgment, honesty and personal associations."

McCain aides also left no doubt that the strategy would have a McCarthyistic tinge by highlighting Obama's limited connections to Ayers, who as a young man in the late 1960s and early 1970s, veered off into violent radicalism in protest of the slaughter going on in the Vietnam War. Ayers became a leader of an extreme faction, known as the Weathermen, that planted bombs at the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol. After years of living underground, Ayers surfaced and escaped a prison sentence in 1974 because of prosecutorial misconduct in his case.

Though never disavowing his rationale for reacting to the Vietnam War violence by trying to bring a small measure of that violence back home, Ayers expressed regret for some of his actions and quietly built a life as a Chicago-based college professor focusing on educational issues.

Possibly because Ayers came from a family with deep ties in the Chicago establishment -- his father had served as chief executive of Commonwealth Edison -- the ex-student radical was given a kind of second chance to turn his expertise to the good of his community.

One of Ayers's defenders now is Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, whose father had run the city at the time of infamous clashes in 1968 between anti-war activists and police. "He's done a lot of good in this city and nationally," Daley told the New York Times in a front-page article on Oct. 4.

Daley also urged people to view Ayers's radicalism four decades ago in the context of the time when the brutality of the Vietnam War had torn apart the nation's social fabric. "This is 2008," Daley said. "People make mistakes." History also shows that the mistakes were not just made by anti-war activists, but by the nation's leaders who intervened with a half-million U.S. troops and massive firepower in what amounted to a local civil war. The record reveals that President Lyndon Johnson's decisions were driven by fear that he would be blamed for "losing Indochina" and by the erroneous belief that communism was a monolith.

Johnson and his advisers failed to appreciate the emerging Sino-Soviet split or the nationalism that inspired much of the Vietnamese resistance to French and then American domination. As Johnson pushed forward into the bloody Vietnam quagmire, the American people also splintered into angry factions, some backing the war and some doing what they could to end it. In 1967, the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. threw his moral weight on the anti-war side, calling the United States "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today."

A few young Americans reacted to the violence in Vietnam -- and to the refusal of the U.S. government to stop the war -- by turning to anarchy or trying to "bring the war home" through violent acts within the United States. William Ayers was such a person.

Clearly, however, Obama had nothing to do with Ayers's behavior during the Vietnam War when Obama was still a child. It's also a stretch to suggest that a tenuous connection to Ayers implicated Obama in either Ayers's actions during the Vietnam War or his lack of remorse for some of his decisions.

Establishment Connections

Ironically, it was the Chicago establishment that put Obama -- a bright, young community organizer working with churches on Chicago's South Side -- into contact with Ayers, who served on philanthropic boards seeking to improve educational opportunities in the city.

The Obama campaign says the two men first met in 1995 through an educational project known as the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was part of a $500 million national program for school improvement funded from the fortune of Walter Annenberg, a pro-Republican publisher (and close personal friend of Ronald Reagan).

Ayers also hosted a small political gathering for Obama's first state senate campaign; their terms overlapped as members of board for the Woods Fund, another community-oriented philanthropy; and they lived in the same Hyde Park neighborhood, seeing each other occasionally on the street, the Times reported in the Oct. 4 story.

Though Palin cited the publication of the Times article to justify her new attacks linking Obama to Ayers's Vietnam-era "terrorism," the article actually cites no evidence to support Palin's charge that Obama was "palling around with terrorists," with its suggestion that Obama and Ayers were close friends. The article concludes that the two appear to have been only casual acquaintances and that Ayers had little to do with Obama's political development.

According to the Times article, even conservative Republicans who knew Obama in that time period said he showed no radical tendencies. "I saw no evidence of a radical streak, either overt or covert, when we were together at Harvard Law School," said Bradford Berenson, who worked with Obama on the Harvard Law Review and later became an associate White House counsel to George W. Bush.

Berenson called Obama a "pragmatic liberal" whose moderation frustrated others at the law review who held more leftist views. Nevertheless, McCain and Palin appear determined to make this guilt-by-association theme work in the final weeks of the campaign, hoping that it will raise doubts about Obama that might scare off white working-class voters, so-called Reagan Democrats.

Clinton Oppo

The McCain-Palin ticket is helped by the fact that during the latter stages of the Democratic primaries, Hillary Clinton's campaign injected the Ayers issue into the race under the guise that the Republicans would use it -- and therefore it was best to raise it in time for Democrats to deny Obama the nomination.

The Ayers issue was part of the Clinton "oppo" research on Obama dating back at least to December 2007 when I was briefed on it by a close Clinton associate. The Clinton campaign pushed the Ayers theme during the spring 2008 primaries in Rust Belt states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. Key media personalities helped, such as George Stephanopoulos of ABC News, a former Bill Clinton adviser.

During a key prime-time debate before the Pennsylvania primary, Stephanopoulos said about Ayers that "in fact, on 9/11 he was quoted in the New York Times saying, 'I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough.'" Obama was left protesting this pejorative guilt-by-association.

"The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George," Obama responded. "So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow -- somehow their ideas could be attributed to me -- I think the American people are smarter than that. They're not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn't."

By referring to the fact that Ayers's comments were published on Sept. 11, 2001, Stephanopoulos led viewers to believe that Ayers had either hailed the 9/11 attacks or used the 9/11 tragedy as a ghoulish opportunity to suggest that more bombings were desirable. But that wasn't true.

The comment, which was from an interview about a memoir that Ayers published earlier in 2001, was included in a New York Times article that appeared in the newspaper's Sept. 11, 2001, edition, which went to press on Sept. 10, hours before the 9/11 attacks.

In other words, the Ayers comment had no relationship to the 9/11 attacks. During the debate, in response to Sen. Clinton's piling on about Ayers, Obama pointed out that her husband had done more for ex-members of the Weather Underground than he had.

"By Sen. Clinton's own vetting standards, I don't think she would make it, since President Clinton pardoned or commuted the sentences of two members of the Weather Underground, which I think is a slightly more significant act" than knowing Ayers, Obama said. [For more details, see Consortiumnews.com's "Are the Clintons Playing Joe McCarthy?'] But now the Ayers issue is back, thanks to Republican operatives, the New York Times front-page article on Oct. 4 -- and Sarah Palin's new role as the attack dog for John McCain's campaign.

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Obstacles to Obama winning the election: Bigotry and the Judas factor.
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 9, 2008 1:16 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
You can't tell me the Clintons aren't pleased with Pitbull Palin for bringing up the Ayers issue.

Last week I watched Slick Willie pimp for McCain on the "View" TV show. Not surprisingly, President Clinton refused to go on the attack like Palin has. Instead, he damn near endorsed her senile running mate.

More recently, during another network interview, Bill made a half-hearted criticism of McCain that Politico commentator Roger Simon called "quarter-hearted."

Simon then expressed an opinion like mine, that Bill wants Obama to lose the election so his wife can run again in 2012.

For readers who have forgotten about President Clinton's devious nature, he's an egocentric, womanizing, greedy bastard who pushed NAFTA and took $500,000 from the Arabs for a weekend's work lobbying for Dubai's takeover of our major seaports.

The slimy sonuvabitch should crawl back to Arkansas along with his wife and hide under a rock where they belong.

As for bigotry, some pundits believe Obama needs at least a 10-point lead in the polls to overcome Democratic and independent racists. Hopefully they will come to their senses before November 4th and realize that half black is better than 100% old.

One more thing for NEW AlterNet visitors. If you are an undecided voter, learn the truth about Unfit McCain and his so-called "heroic" war record by clicking on: Vote Against McCain (one of the HOTTEST anti-McCain sites on the Web)

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» Dead on spot, Shey. Posted by: NoMcCainPalin
Sarah - Yeah That One
Posted by: reinaldok on Oct 9, 2008 3:44 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
For sure That One Sarah Palin is certainly a clear and present danger. There are still so very many of our fellow citizens who gobble up her slimy junk and believe every last word of her absurd blurtings. I truly hope and do believe that she will eventually become just another William Miller. WILLIAM MILLER for VP? Think of another ultra right winger - presidential candidate from Arizona. Miller, of course became well known for his American Express commercials. DO YOU KNOW ME? Became just a blip in history.

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» The Palins' un-American activities Posted by: thinks4herself2008
» RE: Political whores will Posted by: Edward George
» RE: Sarah - Yeah That One Posted by: lawton
» RE: Sarah - Yeah That One Posted by: reinaldok
Dangerous moment
Posted by: chorton on Oct 9, 2008 3:55 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Should *we* be supporting Obama? I say yes, and urgently. His growing strength in the polls must not make us complacent, and our disgust with his chauvinist foreign policy and his cozy relationship with Wall Street must not blind us to the stakes for the people. A lot can happen between now and Nov. 4 - or Jan. 20 - and the Republicans are playing hardball! Nader is not an option this time, and next time could be too late.

We are witnessing one of the Godfathers of the "shadow government", out in the open, allied with Palin’s militia movement, going down to a humiliating defeat. At stake for Bush and many others in the inner circle is exposure, humiliation, prosecution and perhaps jail. This at a moment of existential crisis for those who have built their fortunes on vast financial Ponzi schemes or on conquest and its spoils. Will they follow the rules and accept their defeat?

Facing him is Obama, channeling both an emerging popular rebellion and a large "realist" segment of the ruling class. A shrewd, crafty but inspiring and charismatic player with a foot in both camps, he leads an ad-hoc movement of millions, including labor, and speaks to the interests of an increasingly aroused and angry but still muddled and misinformed electorate.

Bush and Co. still have cards to play before the election, separately or in combination, including:
1. A major "terrorist attack", perhaps together with a "statement by Bin Laden" endorsing Obama, or "proof" that Iran was behind it.
2. An international crisis, with Iran - begun by Israel or by a provoked, staged or invented incident - or with Russia in Ukrane or Georgia and a threat of nuclear war.
3. Massive vote-rigging. Even facing an Obama landslide, they control enough voting machinery in enough states to steal it if they are willing to forego plausibility.
4. Assasinations, leaving the Democrats without a standard-bearer.
5. Another financial crisis and a deadlocked Congress, perhaps due to Republican obstruction.
6. Declaration of an emergency and martial law, suspension of the Constitution and calling off or postponing the election, in response to any of these crises, or perhaps in response to mass protests portrayed as riots and insurrection.

After an election defeat, a takeover would require a naked coup without a fig-leaf, unattractive but still possible.

You may say, why plan for such awful things, when the odds are they won't happen? But this is has little to do with odds or luck. These are hard people, playing the game of world power. They and their families have eighty years of involvement in overthrowing governments abroad, installing and supporting tyrants and ruling by naked terror, and a long history of changing the rules when it suits them,. They're losing, but it's their move. *There is precedent for, preparations for and/or signals that they’ve been considering every one of these moves!*

So will they do it? Will they take their move? If not, it won’t be due to moral compunctions or respect for tradition. The question rather is will their golfing buddies - the other billionaires, the top brass and top corporate executives - let them? That is hard to call, but may depend in part on how frightened they are, on their assessment of the damage it would cause to their position in the world – and on how strong the Obama movement is!

Could a coup be blocked? That is unknown also, and also involves us. The best deterrent would be for the Obama campaign to become a steamroller, but if an election theft, an attempt to spread panic or a coup scenario starts to unfold, it should find us in the mainstream, positioned to rally the people to pivot and face the new threat. That means being with our grass roots bases, including the Obama campaign, supporting him critically but committed to his victory.

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» A dangerous moment indeed... Posted by: skoog5600
» RE: A dangerous moment indeed... Posted by: QuestionAuthority
» RE: Dangerous moment Posted by: Lilly
Excellent Comment,
Posted by: Shey on Oct 9, 2008 4:08 AM   
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- above. I believe (and fervently hope) that Obama is a lot more liberal than he's letting on. Just as Bill Clinton was always far more conservative than he claimed, until he was firmly in power.
Obama must get elected, the survival of our democracy is at stake.

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» RE: Excellent Comment, Posted by: Old Skeptic
TWO DANGEROUS WOMEN
Posted by: Bob Graham Las Vegas on Oct 9, 2008 4:45 AM   
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Watching the McCain campaign 10/09/08 Ms McCain started into a tirade about Obama holding up monies for Iraq, just as her eyes deepened , her face flushed and her voice changed levels into a real hatred level, Palin started a high school girly type giggle and had to duck behind Ms McCain so it wouldn't be noticed. Not quick enough for me and I am sure others saw this. Once again, the McCain campaign fails to mention what the issue really entailed. It was at a time when policy in Iraq was not working and troops were dying at a horrific rate, Bush knew that the Pentagon had several billion dollars in excess and the hold up would not affect the troops on the ground. Out of this delay came many changes which saved many lives, including new armor, on vehicles and personal gear. These two women are a real danger , more so than even Dick Cheney .

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» RE: TWO DANGEROUS WOMEN Posted by: VZEQICVA
» Consider Nature Posted by: djnoll
Three Word with which to fight back - The Keating Five
Posted by: alias246 on Oct 9, 2008 4:48 AM   
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Most of the youth in this country are too young to be familiar with that unsavory bit of McCain's past and among older voters the attention span seems to last for only a few news cycles.
If Biden were to start hammering on this with the same intensity as Palin is hammering on her accusations - and use the repug tactic of constant repetition with the novelty that in this case the accusations are TRUE and ON RECORD and so very related to what is going on with the economy now, I think that it would be an extremely powerful tool that would not need to stoop to the level of McCain's mudslinging.
In a recent interview, Michael Dukakis said that he felt that he lost the election by not fighting back soon enough. Though this is certainly debateable, many of us Obama supporters are eagerly awaiting the riteous indignation and the fire in the belly that Obama is certainly entitled to and more than capable of.

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Isn't Palin supossed to be Christian?
Posted by: maryyooch on Oct 9, 2008 4:54 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The only idiots Palin is stirring up are the die hard base and racists. I do not understand, especially since this campaign has gone on soooooo long, how anyone can be an undecided voter! It makes no sense! There couldn't be two more different candidates.
This all goes to show how Palin/McCain will stoop so low to win, fear, race baiting and flat out lying.
And, if Palin brags about what a so-called Christian she is, didn't Christ have an Apostle that had murdered someone? Isn't Christianity supossed to be about forgiveness? Hasn't Ayers proven himself to be reformed after all this time? I'd love to hear her answer about that. But she is one of these Christians who give Christ a bad name. She believes in herself first, no Christian Doctorine. She probably doesn't even know what it is. That is what makes her so dangerous. Her stupidity!

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» I agree .... Posted by: annie68
» RE: Do Christians Forgive the Unrepentent? Posted by: helenahanbasquet
» Isn't Palin supposed to be Christian? Posted by: DR. LARRY MITCHELL
Character Counts - The Irony!
Posted by: ChicagoPaul on Oct 9, 2008 4:55 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
While the McCain campaign describes it's present "low road" tactics as "character issues," it is also, ironically, a referendum on the character of Senator McCain, CIndy McCain, and Sarah Palin.

We are witnessing either shoddy research on the part of the McCain staff or deliberate portrayal of half-truths by the senator, his wife, and his running mate.

It's hard to believe that the McCain research staff has NOT looked at the entire body of evidence which would lead to a "different truth" than the "truth" they are reporting. (Think about "different truth" for a second or two! Pretty weird, huh?)

So, since they know the REAL truth, the staff has either lied to McCain, et al, or have convinced them that the real truth doesn't matter and this "different truth" is just a good - better, perhaps!

If you know the Six Pillars of the Character Counts program, you also know that this behavior topples several of said pillars.

Yet, McCain, et al, continue down this deceitful road. You gotta ask why?

George W. Bush pulled his sucker punch against in South Carolina in 2000 because the White House was HIS ("my pretty!!"). Hillary Clinton brought up the Ayers relationship because the White House was HERS ("my pretty!!"). McCain lusts after the same White House for the very same reason: It's MY turn! Please crown me NOW!

The real character question (for me, anyway) is how will Senator Obama, his wife, and his running mate respond? I expect them to cry FOUL! I expect them to set the record straight. I expect them to take the high road and not to stoop to their level.

I thought the Keating Five 11 or 12 minute You Tube was an example of "high road."

Unfortunately, there will be many Obama supporters crying for some red meat like the McCain camp delivers.

And it is tempting to say the least.

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Change we can believe in???
Posted by: Karl.Ben on Oct 9, 2008 5:16 AM   
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The problem with Obama isn't just the Ayers connection, which in itself is disturbing enough. It's the picture that begins to emerge of who Obama, and his wife are.

Racist church, connection to ACORN, his wife actually befriended Ayers wife first in a law firm they met at. His wifes seemingly racists writings in college, Obama's connection to Chicago criminals, etc..etc.

It's unfortunate that with all the qualified people in this nation, Obama and McCain rose to the top in this election with bumbling Biden and Palin running with them.

Change? - be careful what you ask for!

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» Nonsense Posted by: Jim Shaw
» RE: Change we can believe in??? Posted by: reinaldok
dont worry AlterNet
Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals on Oct 9, 2008 5:16 AM   
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cant get as low as most Liberals get with President Bush

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» RE: dont worry AlterNet Posted by: rotorooter
» RE: dont worry AlterNet Posted by: redhead1954
Bigotry is the oldest form of terrorism the media has the playbook...
Posted by: LOVELYT. on Oct 9, 2008 5:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What amazes my Black @ss is how some folks act like this is all new. Our character is always assassinated [more then our character in most cases] and there is never any outrage! It's just on a worldwide stage now. Why isn't there any mass push to stop the hatred? The lies? Even the "say one thing do another" GOP? [Our kids are off limits] Then Cindy [never will have work hands] McCain pimps her son for the presidency. But fails to mention, her own flip-flop husband voted down a bill for troop funding because it didn't support his never ending war.
There is a saying, "All is fair in Love and War." Well this is neither. So again I ask you where is the outcry? This is politics I suppose right? Then if they campaign like this then how the hell do you get all up in arms when the underhanded, greedy fallouts like the bailouts and the conflict for oil in Iraq, happen? Hell we let them do it before they were even in the office. Did you really expect them to declare it was an acting role? Then all of a sudden walk the straight and narrow? Of course you didn't.
The chickens come home to roost, everytime. It's just that it's never recognized until it affects you. For me? I've been affected since birth. Bigotry is the oldest form of intimidation and terror known to the black man [and woman]. When does those faces get added and seen as terrorist? Never when the terrorist control the list. The chickens always come home to roost.

The 1st thing which makes me proud is how stately Obama is. The TRUE essence of a Black man like my father. Always mature. Never argumentative. A Deep thinker, a protector with a no nonsense approach to keeping and maintaining dignity and respect; both self and from others. Even if it means death. That's character. Not smearing another and lying to the innocent. That's cowardly GOP crap! KKK crap. Terrorist crap!
This truth that never gets shown nationally. That's the reason Obama is celebrated abroad. Not because he's working for them. It's because they are sick and tired of the GOP John Wayne government who thinks it's okay to push them around. Or treat them like second class human beings.

The 2nd thing which makes me proud is that the mass majority of people see through it and are not buying into it. It's because their money is drying up just like those who happen to look like Obama. I hope this teaches a lesson to all. If you allow evil to run amuck for decades, sooner or later it's going to affect you. Evil loves no one. It only uses them for is gain.

and this quote from the article:
"But now the Ayers issue is back, thanks to Republican operatives, the New York Times front-page article on Oct. 4 -- and Sarah Palin's new role as the attack dog for John McCain's campaign.”

Sounds more like a condoning then condemnation, in my opinion. I guess you just can’t get away from the norm.

Obama/Biden 2008

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It's the only thing McCain has
Posted by: taxidriver on Oct 9, 2008 5:24 AM   
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McCain's strategy now is "my country, right or wrong" combined with "I'll win every war--and you're either for us or against us." This will appeal to his base, but I doubt it will win over a lot of undecided voters or independents.

The real economic pain we're going through has focused the attention of most Americans on real issues of substance, rather than baseless charges of "blame America first." McCain is still not mentioning the middle class, and his multiple mansions and his wife's holdings (roughly $100 million) don't exactly make him a champion of the working classes.

If this is all McCain-Palin can dish, their defeat is inevitable.

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PBS has a poll
Posted by: surfreality on Oct 9, 2008 6:01 AM   
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PBS has an online poll posted asking if Sarah Palin is qualified. Apparently the right wing knew about this in advance and are flooding the voting with YES votes.

The poll will be reported on PBS and picked up by mainstream media. It can influence undecided voters in swing states.

Please do two things -- takes 20 seconds.

1) Click on link and vote yourself.

Here's the link:
http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

2) Then send this to every single Obama-Biden voter you know, and urge them to vote and pass it on.

The last thing we need is PBS saying their viewers think Sarah Palin is qualified.

. Right now it's tied 49%-49%

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» RE: PBS has a poll Posted by: phatkhat
» RE: PBS has a poll Posted by: surfreality
palin and her mudslinging
Posted by: katee on Oct 9, 2008 6:12 AM   
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You would think by now the pit bull and dragon lady would get the message.The only thing they are good for is mudslinging.Lets send palinite back to Alaska to thaw out.Send John McCain and Cindy McCain with her.The entire family needs to go home. Good By on Nov. 4.

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He sees America as Imperfect? ddddahh. Anybody who thinks otherwise is racist by definition
Posted by: aamer923 on Oct 9, 2008 6:14 AM   
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Dear Governor Palin
No we are not a perfect nation. Yes we bombed civilians. We tortured people. Our military acknowledged that. A force for good? sometimes. For no good? sometimes.

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She's Ideologically akin to McVey, Manson and Olypmic Bomber
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 9, 2008 6:30 AM   
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Easy Girl..You got a few 'Bats in your Belfrey' which can come back to Bite YOU!
Yeah Keith on Mac's revelation about Mac's Domestic Terrorist Sympathies. But That was more than a 6 degree of seperation- mere Meeting of a Lunatic fringe Delegate.
Far more disturbing and telltale is someones Long held Beliefs.
Sarah Palin's Husband was a memeber of a AK group which not only want to separate from the US, but it's leader had disdain for our Govt....Sounds alot like the motivating mindset of Timothy McVey Sarah even video'ed a 'Keep Up the Good Work'
She attends a church which It's leaders claim will be Beacon in the AK Refuge after Armegeddon. A Place for those to escape the chaos and catastrophies, They Helped Cause? That is eeirely similar to a Delsuion of a man called Charlie Manson and his vision of Death Valley.
Further Sarah is an unbending, cold hearted Pro Birther( Not Pro Lifer, that indicated Continued Dedication after Birth too).She disregards the emotional state of a Rape victim who finds they have conceived. Barely gives a shit about the health or life of the mother - if a 12 yr old was raped, became pregnant, what is the Risk factor to her giving birth at such an Immature age- either naturally or by C- section?What is the Death rate for these Cildren?! This absolute disregard for Life (following Birth) is what those Who Bombed Planned Parenthood Clinics (Cleaning people at night), Assasinated MD's and Pipebombed the Atlanta Olympics.
Every Action, Decision is Preceeded and processed through a Set of Perceptions. Sarahs filters are dangerously Clogged with Prejudice,Unearned Entitlement and Self anointed Righteousness.
She is a lethal mix of Ideologies which have Caused Most of the Domestic Terrorism this country has suffered.
All she need say is she hates Technology and she's right in lock step with Ted Kazinski (Unibomber)
So Sarah either YOU knew nothing about these others living in BFE, or Forgot (can't remember a SCOTUS ruling, after 3 months??), Or You see these acts as Justified!?!None Are Amirable explanations.
Would You refer to them as 'Freedom fighters' Like McCain refered to Bin Laden & AQ during the '80's and again in this last debate?
W's Recklessly Ignorant, but both McCain and Palin are Ideologically Dangerous!But Mac's Alter of Worship and Allegience is anything ending in 'Corp'- Same type of 'personality disorder' but just different end game 'Cookie',A lengthy and (Unduly) Glorfied footnote for History.Sarahs Doin' it for 'god' and Mac is doing it for himself!
These Two don't just disgust me...they Terrify Me!

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The article's title is offensive.
Posted by: arrgh on Oct 9, 2008 7:01 AM   
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Your insinuation that Palin has no clue as to the depth and force of her rhetoric is downright sexist - I have a hard time believing she doesn't know what she's doing. Shame on you for painting her as a Republican puppet; she has just as much knowledge and choice as the rest of the candidates in how she participates and consequently, needs to be held responsible for her choices [just like the other six billion of us on the planet]. She knows exactly what her strengths are as a public speaker on the Republican ticket and she chooses to deploy them. Just because you are offended by her words and disagree with her politics does not mean she doesn't see the broader context of her and her party's campaign. I don't see anyone characterizing McCain as naive in his choice to run and play into Republican party politics.

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Media Controls Public View of Candidates
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Oct 9, 2008 7:16 AM   
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Just like the debates in 2000 and 2004 presidential elections, the media is in the pocket of the military industrial oil central private banking complex, which supports the McCain/Palin ticket.

The media will spin in a positive light all of the lies put out by McCain and Palin. However, it does not matter who wins since Obama/Biden have sold out to the military industrial oil central private banking complex.

The fact that Obama/Biden say nothing about 9/11 being an inside job, the Federal Reserve Bank being the cause of the current financial crisis and every financial crisis prior to this one from 1913 on, Electronic voting machines being completely hackable both on the machine level and on the transmission of the precinct votes to the central tabulator and that this administration lied to attack Iraq.

Why none of these candidates can speak out is simple. They are all to varying degrees complicit with the cover-up of the above mentioned most pertinent problems in this country. If I know about these underlying causative problems, then they must know.

I think a reasonable response to the current situation would be for the populace to not vote in the election. Then whoever wins would not be a legitimately elected president.

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Have we forgotten - Ayers was a pacifist
Posted by: ratcat on Oct 9, 2008 7:18 AM   
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True, Ayers was with the Weather Underground, it's purpose was to end the Vietnam War. But don't forget they went out of their way to make sure that no one was hurt in the bombings.
I think there was one incident where someone was hurt - they hadn't anticipated someone being there at that time... But remember they went to great lengths to ensure everyone's safety.

While the government operatives were out of control, the weather underground was thoughtful and exibited extreme self control. Many of us are alive today because of the heroic deeds these true patriots performed.
They were heroic in the true sense of the word - sacrificing their own well being for the good of the many. They were true patriots in the sense of the original founders of this country - and even the Republicrats quote something to the effect of, "When the government is out of control, it is every persons responsibility to stand up and revolt against it - with force if neccessary."

Well, that was the situation. The folks in control of the government were out of control. They were lying about the reason to be in an undeclared war. They were lying about what was happening in the war. They were lying about what they were going to do. They weren't listening to what the people wanted them to do. They were spying on everyday citizens. And they had started the war on false pretenses. (Sound familiar?)

The Weather Underground was a small group of people that sacrificed their own lives, livelyhoods, and well being, while being chased by illegal means by all of the powers that be - FBI, CIA, State and Local police...
All the time the Weathermen were planning how best to disrupt the system that was sending us to die in the war - without causing harm to people. They destroyed Induction Centers, the places we had to go to be sent off to the slaughter. They destroyed records buildings - the places the records of who were going to be, and who had been, drafted into the armed services to be sent off to the slaughter.
Remember also that we were being sent off to this war without our permission - we were being drafted. Our choices were - go to war, or go to jail. Most of us didn't have rich well connected daddies to have us signed up for an obsolete airforce squadron that couldn't, even if they had wanted to, be sent to war (like GW Bush). Most of us couldn't get 5 defferments for having a pimple on our butt (Limbaugh.) I can't remember what Cheney's defferments were for, but he got them. Most of us had a choice - enlist or be drafted.

The Weathermen saved an unknown number of lives, Americans, Vietnamese, Laosians, Cambodians, and Chinese. Military and civilians. Everyone watching the news or reading a newspaper back then was told how terrible these people were. The claims were exagerated as to the damage they did to our country. How they should be loathed and dispised for their dasterdly deeds. What cowards they were. How they should be put away forever or shot.

There are not any buildings, nor any pieces of paper that are worth the life of one single person.

Ayers and all of the Weathermen were pacifists, patriots, and deserving to be heralded as the true heros they are.

In this world of opposites, I can imagine why the Republicrats think association with Ayers is a bad thing. While Rumsfields association with Sadam Husein was a good thing. While Cheney and the Bush's association with the Saudies and the Carlyle Group is a good thing. While the Republicrats association with the likes of Abramoff, etc. is ok. McCain's association with the Keating Five is ok.
But, Obama's "association" with Ayers to work towards a better community is bad.

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» Not causing harm?! Posted by: brunowe
» RE: Not causing harm?! Posted by: ratcat
The Candidate Is A Demagogue
Posted by: Last Chance on Oct 9, 2008 7:33 AM   
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Sarah Palin is deliberately provoking the most ignorant, prejudiced and superstitious people in the USA.

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» RE: The Candidate Is A Demagogue Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: The Candidate Is A Demagogue Posted by: Last Chance
PALIN KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S DOING
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 9, 2008 7:38 AM   
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When I look back at the videos of her pathetic interviews with Katie Couric, I'm convinced that she was a complete phoney painting a picture of a dumb broad when in fact she never was. My first impression of her was not good. She seemed mean spirited and vicious. How long can she go on? As long as she wants to. She gathers huge crowds and even before she's elected (?) she has privileges. Someone in the crowd of admirers hollering "kill him" is OK. An old guy in a tee shirt that says "Impeach Bush" anywhere, gets arrested. Whatever happened to the Patriot Act? I mean the one that will allow Bush to declare Martial Law because of the panic over economic events. I should definitely know better. Sarah has Dick's approval and that's all that matters. Thanks, ANNA

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John McCain's TERRORISTS in Arizona
Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Oct 9, 2008 7:40 AM   
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For 26 years John McCain supported Arizona's Taliban.

Watch the video:

http://www.bankingonheaven.com/

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Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad
Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 9, 2008 7:51 AM   
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Considering:
America is in debt for many generations to come.
America is involved in wars of aggression that it cannot win.
America's virtual economy has exploded.
America manufactures nothing but hot-air.

Many older/retiring Americans have been pushed into poverty due to the meltdown of the paper economy.

Colleges are too expensive for a lot of Americans and so is health care.

And uncle tom's lose association with a guy who committed the crime when uncle tom was 8 yrs old is an issue?

I'm loving it: AmeriKKKa is destroying itself right before our eyes.

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Palin is un-American
Posted by: reelectnoone on Oct 9, 2008 7:52 AM   
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It's true. Her attempts to incite a riot and allow chanting of "kill him" to continue shows her total contempt for our system.

And Hillary will not stand a chance if Palin gets in first. She will so sour voters on a "female president" that they will not trust another one for many years.

Palin would set women back a generation in politics.

Hillary's chance continue only if McCain/Palin lose.

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Palin has...
Posted by: AnIndependentThinker on Oct 9, 2008 9:08 AM   
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not only sunk to the bottom of the barrel, she's beneath it. 'Nuf said.

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Hypocrisy
Posted by: LeeAnnG on Oct 9, 2008 9:37 AM   
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The Republican party is almost a synonym for hypocrisy (not that the Democrats are free from this label!), and it's getting worse.

I have a friend, a guy who is personally warm and kind and generous, who considers himself to be a "conservative" and mostly a Republican supporter. He "has given up" on the American government, however, and will not vote. But in the next breath, he talks about American exceptionalism, and how he believes in "America first."

This same man has parroted Reagan's "government is the problem, not the solution" nonsense many times. But after he married a woman with 8 kids, he accepted food stamps for years to help support his family. He has very serious health problems, so he lives on SSI. My husband and I point this kind of thing out to him, but he doesn't seem to get the discrepancy. I once told him that it's the conservatives he so admires who would take away his safety net, and he refuses to believe it.

Of course, part of his problem is that he is a social and religious conservative (guns and god and probably gays, although he would be reluctant to express this last one to me) with no clue about the real economic agenda of the regressives in power. Unfortunately, I have known other social conservatives who are very similar to my friend. And logic is a poor defense against emotion.

But I diverge from the actual subject, which is Sarah Palin. She is the worst kind of hypocrite. In addition, it was easy to detect her underlying viciousness during the VP "debate" with her "Say it ain't so, Joe" comments and other nastiness. If Biden had done that to her, the cries of sexism from the right would have been deafening.

I saw a great segment on The Daily Show during which clips of "what Biden has to do in the debates" comments were shown. Things like "he has to be respectful," "he has to not appear sexist," "he needs to refrain from being pompous" were repeated over and over.

What was the take on what Palin had to do? She had to "prove she could finish a sentence." No double standard there!

I don't think Palin is stupid. But I do believe she is singularly uninformed, has neanderthal religious views, and has narcissistic personality disorder - along with her running mate. In fact, the entire far-right wing of the Republican party and their evangelical nutjob cohorts might be suffering from collective narcissistic personality disorder, since one of the characteristics is an excessive belief in one's own specialness and that of one's associates. This is also known as "jingoism" when it comes to one's affiliation with and support for a specific country, no matter what that country does.

People like Palin and McCain are difficult and unpleasant in normal relationships, but are truly dangerous when given a national forum to express their hateful views. As I read recently, Sarah Palin's politics can be summed up in 3 words, "Us against them." That applies to Bush, McCain, and pretty much all their supporters.

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cdiggs_0322
Posted by: cdiggs_0322 on Oct 9, 2008 10:13 AM   
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I think everyone should just completely ignore Gov. Palin. She says that she will no longer speak to the press. So if the media completely ignore her, her voice will be extremely limited, thus solving the Palin issue. It's what McCain seems to be doing. Maybe it's time to follow his lead on at least one issue.

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» RE: cdiggs_0322 Posted by: Shey
The Santa Ana Winds Are Howling
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Oct 9, 2008 10:11 AM   
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In Southern California, during the fall, a dry and hot weather pattern called the Santa Ana winds blow through the region making the air quality unsafe and with it comes duststorms which reduce visibility. It causes big rigs to tumble, or to overturn like gymnasts on a floor exercise.
The Santa Anas are blowing through Sarah Palin's rhetoric to obfuscate Barack Obama, to paint him with dark colors of hate. The large clouds of dust threaten simple logic of Obama's campaign message.
The strokes of her brush shows contempt of a man who believes in helping Americans get out of our current funk.
Dirt is seeping in through our minds (if you believe in what she's saying) and it is the dirt she is dishing out while on the campaign trail. It gives magnificent sunsets but you don't want to be out in it while the winds howl at 50 mph+.
Is this the best McCain/Palin can do? Whatever happened to his promise of not running a "dirty" campaign?
While we wait for these devil winds to subside we're better off shielding our conscience from this woman who's full of hot air.

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It's only a matter of time
Posted by: JefffromCA on Oct 9, 2008 10:24 AM   
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before someone uses the "n" word. It is probably already in use behind the scenes. Somebody will slip in front of the press. And then it will be really over.

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Ms. Palin Has No "Bottom Line"
Posted by: goodsensecynic on Oct 9, 2008 10:48 AM   
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"My country is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

Wow! If perky little Sarah could only get her mittens on the traitor-terrorist who said that, she wouldn't need a gun. She'd rip him apart and eat him raw! After all, she's a true patriot.

But, wait! That wasn't Rev. Wright or Bill Ayers. It wasn't Huey Newton or Stokely Carmichael. It wasn't even Abbie Hoffman or Tom Paine. It was Joe Vogler, the founder, head and first martyr of the Alaska Independence Party (AIP, no relation to AIG).

Why is this important? It is important because Todd Palin was a member of this virulent anti-American organization for years. And because Sarah Palin gave a "shout-out" to its members earlier this year. "Keep up the good work," she told AIP members, "and God bless you."

Said current AIP leader Lynette Clark: "Sarah's Alaskan to the bone ... she sounds just like Joe Vogler."

What did Joe Vogler sound like? Here are a few of his more memorable remarks as reported by David Talbot, founder of salon.com.

"When the federal bureaucrats come after me, I hope they wear red coats. They make better targets."

"The federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion."

"I hope we don't have to take human life, but if they go tramping on our property rights, look out!"

"If any federal official tries to stop me and my earth-moving equipment, I'll run him over with a Cat and turn mosquitoes loose on him while he dies."


Of course, Joe (the original "Joe Sixpack"?) was no mere beer-swilling, bad-ass, backwoods blowhard. He managed to recruit over 20,000 Alaskans (roughly four times the number of children, women and men in Wasilly) to his cause. This may not seem like much (and isn't in the greater scheme of things), but it was enough to elect Walter Hickel, an AIP member, to Sarah's current job, the Governor of Alaska in 1990. It probably didn't hurt Sarah in her race for the governship either.

Joe's finest moment, however, was never to be. He had finagled his way into the wings of the world stage at the United Nations in 1993. Sponsored by Iran, he was to have addressed that august body on the topic of American tyranny over Alaska, and to demand Alaskan freedom. Todd and Sarah would have been proud.

Alas, Joe's dreams of glory were brought short by his murder. Convicted thief Manfried West used plastic explosives. Joe's last wishes were fulfilled when his remains (small chunks) were sent to Canada and buried in the Yukon, because he refused to be buried under an American flag. Despite West's confession, Sarah's pal and AIP chair, Lynette continues to insist that he was executed by US agents sent from Washington.

Imagine the bombast that would follow, say, the revelation that Michelle Obama (like Todd Palin) had joined a black nationalist party, whose founder preached secession and enlisted Iran in its cause. Especially if Obama (like Sarah) were videotaped in 2008 giving the anti-American haranguers his whole-hearted support, and a big ol' "God bless ya!"

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American Civil War II
Posted by: mn on Oct 9, 2008 11:20 AM   
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The left is armed and ready this time. We've been taking it in the shorts for going on 40 years. Time to take our country back. I have been accosting McCain-Palin supporters on the streets of my little town, looking them deep in their beady little eyes, and telling them that in 26 days the accounting will begin! When Nixon was tossed, we didn't follow through with the appropriate purging. We will not make the same mistake again. Prepare. A lot of people will be going to jail, and they won't be progressives.

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McCain's policies are against the people's interests
Posted by: Old Skeptic on Oct 9, 2008 11:44 AM   
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Just like Bush, McSame wants to continue neocon policies. What he doesn't try to explain to voters is that he will raise their taxes and that means for almost everyone (except for the rich, of course.) He wants to start taxing your employer-provided health insurance as income, throw you a pittance of a tax credit so you can go out and try to buy individual insurance. Over 40 or have a pre-existing condition? Tough. No company will sell you a policy under those conditions.

McCain is a hypocrite, a liar, and a few other words that I don't usually use in public! Obama is not perfect, but he has to be better than a hotheaded, short-tempered, reckless tool of the big corporations (IOW, a typical neocon Republican).

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Another question
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Oct 9, 2008 11:51 AM   
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More to the point, why is McCaincient delegating his oh-so-dirty work to two women? Why doesn't the Big Macho War Hero demonstrate his highly-touted cojones by slinging his bullshit at Obama in person?

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» RE: Another question Posted by: VZEQICVA
My favorite so far: Obama will kill science because science shows that blacks are less intelligent
Posted by: fanny666 on Oct 9, 2008 11:53 AM   
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Seriously.

How does one even counter such logic?

Skin color is, literally, a simple difference in how vitamins are utilized. Dark skin = better for where it's sunny like Africa because it keeps the sun from breaking down vitamin B. Light skin = better for cloudier places like Europe because it produces more vitamin D, which people in Africa can just get from the sun. That's "race" (if anyone can even come up with a proper definition of the term "race", I'd like to hear it) and that's "racial differences."

The brain evolved long before people migrated to Europe. I'm a neurobiologist, and if you give me the brain of a dark-skinned human and the brain of a light-skinned human without telling me which is which, then asked me to figure it out, I couldn't do it. Not with a $10 million dollar lab and 20 years. The differences in physiology are, literally, skin deep.

The idiot that wrote this article doesn't even know that Bush has slashed science research... to the point that the NIH Budget for LAST year still hasn't been approved yet. Yes, the budget for the federal fiscal year that just ended still has not been signed. It's not Obama that will cut funding... you can't cut a zero!

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Inciting to riot
Posted by: Gibsongirl on Oct 9, 2008 12:24 PM   
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I believe both Sara Palin and John McCain should be arrested and held in prison until this campaign is over because what they're doing may well end in the death of Barack Obama! I truly believe they're 'inciting violence' by their remarks. Whether their horrible diatribes result in a riot or possible assassination is being seen as dangerous, and they should be penned up! Keep them in the pokey until they learn how to campaign on the issues, and as I say that I doubt they can learn because I don't believe either one has a strong set of issues to talk about with the public at this time! They're terrible - and the word is they're going to ratchet up their ugly attacks in these last two or three weeks! Why would any intelligent person listen? Arrest them before it's too late. They scare the hell out of me!!!!!!!!!!!

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» RE: Inciting to riot Posted by: VZEQICVA
Obama should question Palin's ties to AIP
Posted by: mtatasmith on Oct 9, 2008 12:26 PM   
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I wonder if she would have a problem if Obama or Biden brought up the fact that she is married to a (recent past) member of the Alaskan Independance Party (nice bunch of Anti-American folks)and gave them a shout out to "keep up the good work and god bless you" as reported by David Talbot recently. Or maybe she could explain the Witch Doctor praying all over her???at her church???Or why she would allow herself to be used by a man who thought so little of the wife who stood by all those years while he was in prison only to be dumped as soon as he laid eyes on "ms.bling"???
She needs to be lead home by the hand to Alaska and left there!!! Shame on the republicans for choosing her - what an idiot!Someone should remind her of the saying , If you can't say anything nice about someone don't say anything at all.

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"Palin may not even understand the significance of her baseless attacks on Obama..."
Posted by: Quannah on Oct 9, 2008 12:54 PM   
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Oh, she's fully aware of what she's doing!

It's no accident that she uses racist rhetoric to incite the crowds at her speeches.

It's no accident that she constantly questions the patriotism of Obama.

It's no accident that people introducing McStain and Palin use Obama's middle name in order to insinuate that he's both Muslim and a terrorist sympathizer, if not a terrorist himself.

It's no accident that people in the crowds she speaks to begin to yell "Traitor!" and "Terrorist!" and "Kill Him!" and "Off With His Head!" and on, and on, and on...

This is the most despicable campaign I could have ever imagined. It's a Karl Rove wet dream. And Sarah Palin is taking the lead on these smears and lies. And she knows EXACTLY what she's doing when she speaks.

THIS IS ALL BY DESIGN! Don't think for a minute that it isn't. This IS the McStain/Palin Campaign.

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SESSIONIST SARAH AND TODD PALIN- MORE ANTI-AMERICAN THAN AYERS DIRECT TIES- NOT FLIMSY TIES
Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Oct 9, 2008 1:13 PM   
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Not to worry. Todd Palin, had DIRECT not FLIMSY TIES AND belonged to an Anti-American group in Alaska for seven years. The group, called {AIP} or Alaska Independent Party, which was headed by Joe Vogler, has 20,000 members. Joe Vogler who was the leader wanted to address the UN to denounce America in 1993. Research it for yourself. Joe Vogler stated that the government was his enemy and he would fight them with any means at hand. Is that American? I think not!

This campaign is so vitally important, because of the chaos this entire country is now in, the huge economic drop, the fact that 650,000 people are out of jobs and counting, folks have lost their 401K retirement, banks are failing, and all the complex issues we are facing domestically and abroad force me to read as much as I can, whenever I get my hands on. I have spent hours online, up late nights reading this poll and that website, this blog, that newspaper, the foreign press, and on and on to make sure whatever I state in a post has a backup and is as correct as possible. So I fact check. And this latest find about Todd Palin's involvement in this anti American group, is a jewel.

So it blows my mind that Sarah P.SIX PACK PALIN has the stupidity and the nerve to mouth piece for John McCain, to stand at a podium in front of anybody in America, and incite a rally and call Obama a terrorist resulting in death threats for Obama, creating mob-mentality?
And the thing that I find evil, is that Palin or Insane McCain never apologized for doing the threats created! The Insane McCain camp has never APOLOGIZED FOR THE DEATH THREATS! I find this to be EVIL & RACIST AND POISONOUS!

What in the hell was John McCain thinking when he accepted this Extremist to run with him? SHE IS WACKY WRONG, MCCAIN IS TOXIC FOR THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

Well, It is truly a blessing in disguise. Thank GOD for Sarah Palin,her interview with Katie Couric and newspapers,her horrific display of being totally un-knowledgeable during the debates, her misuse of power and Trooper-gate, speaks volumes for itself.
Palin sent a shot out to this group just nine months ago. If this isn't a DIRECT Anti- American TIE --- Not a Flimsy thread thin tie like the Ayers crap is to Obama. A DIRECT LINK. So if this isn't a ANTI-AMERICAN, I don't know what could be considered the case. What in the world was John McCain thinking when he agreed to have Palin as a running mate?

McCain is going into the sewer bringing up toilet water to bridge the huge gap in the race. He isn't talking about the ECONOMY. He is PLAYING THE RACE CARD AND MAKING HIS ISSUE ON RACE AND PERSONAL ATTACKS! Does he think Americans are blind and deaf and that dumb????

Another reference: Now McCain is sending his wife out to do his dirty work. Well, all that comes to mind there are these two things:

This woman is a very miserable and angry, Aristocrat. I see it in her face every time she is on the tube. And in my opinion, the only thing that makes her happy is MONEY, the ability to SPEND LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY and affluence, POWER. That's all.

Here's my point. The AIG ex CEO's a week after being bailed out to the tune of $85BILL of YOURS AND MINE TAX PAYER MONEY, splurged and went to an exclusive expensive health spa, spending $440,000 on booze, baths, & pedicures.
Almost half a million dollars, pissed off, and pissed out; money we paid for.

Cindy McCain's designer dress and complete outfit that she wore at the Republican Convention cost $300,000. How many posters on here make that much in ONE YEAR?
Do you think she cares about middle class or the working class? Hell no! WAKE UP FOLKS!PLEASE WAKE UP!

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INCITE TO RIOT- DEATH THREATS & NO APOLOGY FROM THE INSANE MCCAIN CAMP
Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Oct 9, 2008 1:27 PM   
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They have not apologized for the death threats created by Palin. Why not? Think about it! And today I found out that the same organization that Ayers was a board member of, donated money to McCain's camp. I need to do some more fact checking but if this is true it would explain why the McCain camp has shut their mouths about Ayers and stopped the Anti American lies about Obama. But it just shows how nasty and toxic McCain really is and his Fat Cat WALL STREET Friends really are. And GOOGLE Keating Economics... he has been investigated before for the same type of fraud we just paid out to the tune of $700BILLION DOLLARS... This man would put the final ending on American life as we know it if elected. And if his old ass didn't live long enough to do so, gun toting, PALIN SIX PACK would certainly finish the job.

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JUST GOOGLE: Keating Economics- YOU TUBE Phillip Butler who was a POW - THEN SMILE!!!
Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Oct 9, 2008 1:50 PM   
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1)Google this: Keating Economics
Spend the best 13 minutes of your time since this political race began and smile.

2)Google Joe Vogler and the Alaskian Independence Party. Smile Again.
3)Google Secessionisism and Alaska
Have a Laugh

3)Google-YOU TUBE; Vietnam Vetran- Phillip Butler POW at the same time John was a POW
And really laugh and smile!

4) Fact Find John McCain's voting record on the TROOPS- And then CLAP FOR JOY!

Then Thank GOD for Obama and do a dance all around your room!

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The Age of Positivity and Community is coming!
Posted by: thinkverybig on Oct 9, 2008 3:12 PM   
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Your help is needed. If you're ready for change, please share this video with all of your family and friends.

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Go to youtube and do a search for "thinkverybig" and watch all of those videos. The one called "We Must Change" would be fitting to recite at Obama's Inauguration.

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lastmarx
Posted by: lastmarx1 on Oct 9, 2008 3:23 PM   
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Democratic primary debate before PA Primary, April 16.

This was the one in which the moderators were criticized for an anti Obama bias: partial transcript:


STEPHANOPOULOUS: Can you explain that relationship for the voters and explain to Democrats why it won't be a problem?

OBAMA: George, but this is an example of what I'm talking about. This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.

And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George.

The fact is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who, during his campaign, once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions.

Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn's statements? Because I certainly don't agree with those, either.

So this kind of game in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, that somehow their ideas could be attributed to me, I think the American people are smarter than that. They're not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn't.

CLINTON: Well, I think that is a fair general statement, but I also believe that Senator Obama served on a board with Mr. Ayers for a period of time, the Woods Foundation, which was a paid directorship position.

And, if I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York and, I would hope, to every American, because they were published on 9/11,[but he made them before 9/11--mm] and he said that he was just sorry they hadn't done more.

And what they did was set bombs. And in some instances, people died. So it is -- I think it is, again, an issue that people will be asking about.

And I have no doubt -- I know Senator Obama's a good man and I respect him greatly, but I think that this is an issue that certainly the Republicans will be raising.

And it goes to this larger set of concerns about how we are going to run against John McCain. You know, I wish the Republicans would apologize for the disaster of the Bush-Cheney years and not run anybody, just say that it's time for the Democrats to go back into the White House.



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gathaiga
Posted by: gathaiga on Oct 9, 2008 3:48 PM   
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I am sorry to say that that subterranean depth has not yet been reached. GIVE HER TIME.

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Woody
Posted by: misterstuf on Oct 9, 2008 4:00 PM   
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How low? To her knees...you don't think she got to deuce with her brains, do you?

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America's Eva Braun
Posted by: kegbot1 on Oct 9, 2008 5:59 PM   
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She's cute, vacuous and supports evil.

Go with that meme!

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Citizen of the year
Posted by: PaulK on Oct 9, 2008 6:24 PM   
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From the Associated Press, through Yahoo News,

That educational foundation was The Annenberg Challenge. It was funded by the Annenberg Foundation, a charity set up by longtime Republican backer and newspaper publisher Walter Annenberg. Annenberg has died, but his wife has endorsed McCain this year. For his work on this educational project, Chicago gave Ayers its "Citizen of the Year" award in 1997.

Senator Obama was associated with the citizen of the year?

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be afraid be very afraid
Posted by: lil ole me on Oct 9, 2008 6:57 PM   
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The republicans are using this tactic to sway the american voter. they have been using this tactic since 9/11 and have gotten away with convincing the American public that armegaddon is just around the corner. Now they doing the same thing with Obama. telling us he's not like us, he doesnt see American the way the rest of do. calling him a marxist/leninist I can only hope that "we the people" stand up as a nation and show courage.

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Just Wait
Posted by: Larry Sinclair on Oct 9, 2008 8:05 PM   
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until my story hits the media, Obama's terrorist connections will seem like child's play.

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» RE: Nice try, TROLL... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Just Wait Posted by: Larry Sinclair
» RE: Just Wait Posted by: Quannah
Let's be honest, shall we. m.
Posted by: lwbaby on Oct 9, 2008 8:15 PM   
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That extended POP you have heard on Wall St. for the last week or so is the sound of white people cashing out before a Barack REPARATIONS Obama combined with an Obama/Pelosi/Reid triad. And people think the middle name Hussein is scary..

Those of us who have worked hard and invested see the writing on the wall. Apologies to John McCain on the whole dropping ball thingy but we are scared and protecting ourselves. Many of us will vote for you but Acorn has made sure our votes will be blanked by their false registrations, and besides, we are scared of the rioting in the streets if you win.....:

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» RE: Your name says it all... Posted by: Quannah
Secessionist Empresses Who Live in Glass Houses...
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Oct 9, 2008 8:55 PM   
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Sarah Palin has a lot of chutzpah making such an attack. Ayers committed some serious crimes 40 years ago, but has been a model citizen since. To try to tar Obama by his apparently fairly casual association is a stretch, especially coming from a woman who still refuses to cooperate with a lawful investigation into unlawful activities on her--not an acquaintence's--part, and in the recent--not remote--past. Furthermore, for her to question Obama's patriotism when her own husband belongs to, and she supported, a group advocating secession from the United States--treason--is way over the top. The Democrats need to point out these egregious manifestations of her deviousness and hypocrisy.

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How do you explain m.
Posted by: lwbaby on Oct 9, 2008 9:09 PM   
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Obama sucking at the teat of Rev. Wright for 20 frigging years and having his daughters both baptised there?

He had to know what the church stood for.

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» RE: How do you explain m. Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Bio of Rev. Wright Posted by: MeyravLevine
» RE: Bio of Rev. Wright Posted by: Quannah
Good gracious, Mr. Parry
Posted by: hrayovac2 on Oct 9, 2008 9:51 PM   
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With a statement like, "Palin may not realize her attacks are straight out of the neocon playbook" I would have thought you were a rookie reporter, but I know you're seasoned and in on the game, so I'm quite puzzled. Of course she knows what she is doing. Of course she is getting direction. Of course she is a radical extremist to her core. Of course her and her husband are secessionists, religious fanatics, rascist, oil company surrogates, ethically criminal, stupid and clever. What on earth would compel you to sugar-coat or feed with a spoon this obvious fact? These people are fascists and I know you know a lot about the subject of fascsim.

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Free country m.
Posted by: lwbaby on Oct 9, 2008 10:04 PM   
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I will spew what ever I want.

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It is called Freedom of Speech. m
Posted by: lwbaby on Oct 9, 2008 10:05 PM   
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I'll say whatever I want.

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AP... "Palin pre-empts state report, clears self in probe"
Posted by: seacaptdon on Oct 9, 2008 10:53 PM   
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"ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Trying to head off a potentially embarrassing state ethics report on GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin, [Republican] campaign officials released their own report Thursday that clears her of any wrongdoing."

According to a just released Associated Press Article just broadcast on Yahoo News the McCain-Palin campaign has just released its own report clearing Palin of any wrong doing in Troopergate. (Please click link and read it.)

Can you believe this bullshit?!?!?!?!?!

Can you imagine if the Obama Campaign tried something like this? But Mad-dog Palin and McShame are doing it and think it is going to convince people that there is nothing stinking in Alaska.

As someone else said... "A village in Alaska is missing its idiot!"

Unfortunately, that village idiot thinks the rest of the country is as stupid as she is.

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How far will she go?
Posted by: nzo on Oct 9, 2008 11:40 PM   
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With God and the Republicans on her side, all the way. Palin, in the mold of Bush, Cheney, Rove etc, is totally remorseless and amoral.

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Terrorist Turned Nobel Peace Prize Winner
Posted by: cynyk on Oct 10, 2008 8:24 AM   
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In 1946 the King David Hotel in Jerusalem was bombed by members of the Irgun Jewish nationalist group. 91 people were killed. The head of the Irgun was Menachem Begin. The attack was denounced by the world community, as well as the Israeli Haganah Party as a shameful terrorist act. Begin was the object of a massive search by British authorities as a conspirator in the bombing.
In 1977, the successor party to the Irgun, the Likud, won the elections in the Israeli Knesset and Menachem Begin was elected Prime Minister of Israel. Begin never publicly apologized for his role in the King David attack.
In 1978, Prime Minister accepted the invitation of President Jimmy Carter to meet with Egypt's President Anwar Sadat at Camp David for the purposes of reaching a peace agreement between the two Middle East countries. The result was the Camp David Accord. In 1978 Begin and Sadat jointly shared the Nobel Prize for Peace.
People do change, Gov. Palin! And a onetime 1960's radical can become a highly respected advocate for educational reform for Chicago's children.

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Palin, Barnum & Bailey
Posted by: don't jolive my olive. on Oct 10, 2008 8:55 AM   
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Palin is a mickey mouse, rah-rah cheerleader. No substance. Little for brains but big on small time petty, school-yard tactics. This election process is an embarrassment to the founding fathers. it has turned into a low intellect, smash-n-grab, 'Fox' style attention getter. Nothing less. What a bloody waste of everyone's time. We have all witnessed the waste over the last 2 years of expensive campaigning and watched this election slide downhill and turn into a small town carnival. I lose faith in humanity when I hear of some lost soul admiring Palin because she supposedly 'held her own'! No financial discussion, no global interaction, no foreign policy nothing, just skating rinks and a good view of Russia. What sort of bloody nonsense is that? Who in the name of hell would let some local yahoo like her be elected into power? What has this Reality TV show turned into? Obama has leadership skills and I would be proud to see him represent the United States when meeting world leaders. It seems to me the other world leaders have only noticed her good looks and would like to do what dirty old world leaders like to do best..... that's all, then leave.

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LET'S SEE THE MUD ON HER FACE NOW, UNLAWFUL ABUSE OF POWER AS GOV- PALIN GUILTY
Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Oct 10, 2008 7:11 PM   
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SIX PACK PALIN, PACK PACK PACK,
BACK BACK BACK TO -------ALASKA
WHERE IS THE LIPSTICK NOW?
SHE WAS WRONG FROM THE START. LOLOLO!!!!

"WITH GREAT POWER, COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY"
She was never Vice President material. NEVER!!

I would love to have seen the look on Cindy Lou= Cindy McCain's face when this hit the fan!! LOLOLOLO Best news I've heard on the political scope in weeks!

And to think she would be a heart beat away from the position of Commander in Chief? UNTHINKABLE!!! If she abuses her power at that level, can you imagine what this MOOSE SHOOTING cannon would do in the white house?

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