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What Biden Needs to Do to Nail the Debate

By George Lakoff, AlterNet. Posted October 1, 2008.


Even with Palin's inexperience and ignorance of world events, she should not be underestimated. Here's how Biden can win.

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In the first debate, Obama did what he needed to do: convince a majority that he has what it takes. But there is room for improvement.

1. Obama kept working within McCain's frames: Earmarks, tax policy, military policy as foreign policy, and so on. McCain would say something false using one of his frames, and Obama would be lured into correcting McCain in McCain's own frame and then stay in it. Rule 1: Change to your frame.

2. A simple thing: Instead of saying "I agree with Sen. McCain ...," Obama should try "Sen. McCain agrees with me that ..." The former frames McCain as setting the standard. The latter frames Obama as setting the standard. Or try " Sen. McCain and I agree" if you are stressing bipartisanship.

3. Obama's answers kept drifting off and falling in intonation at the end. Both beginnings and endings should be short and passionate.

4. Obama missed a great opportunity when McCain said he would freeze nonmilitary spending. A short, but powerful list of what would be cut and how it would affect people's lives could have been devastation. This can still be done however, even by Biden on Thursday.

5. McCain used "no second holocaust" to effect last week in courting the Jewish vote, which could be decisive in Florida. Obama and Biden need to use it, while pointing to Olmert's anti-bombing position along with Olmert's reasons.

6. Obama didn't take the opportunity to talk about foreign policy at the level of the person, not the state -- about foreign policy issues like poverty, hunger, disease, clean water, women's oppression, ethnic cleansing, refugees, global economics, and so on. Military experience doesn't help with these vital issues, and McCain is inexperienced in them.

The reason the list is short is that Obama did so well.

The Democrats are assuming that Biden will win easily over Palin. I hope so, but Palin should not be underestimated. She is being tutored and much of what she will do should be obvious. She will attack Obama viciously, but with humor. I think she will come out as a populist identifying Obama and Biden with Wall Street and say that McCain improved the Paulson bill by going to Washington. She may argue that a corporate income tax cut will put money in the economy. That one's easy to rebut: corporations that need bailouts have losses not incomes and so cutting their taxes would be pointless. But such logical arguments won't carry the day with Conservative Populists. Biden will have to come on at the beginning as a populist attacking the need for such a bailout.

Remember that polls among conservative populists are running more than 100-to-1 against. Also remember that conservative populists see liberals as elitists, and will see Biden negatively if he comes on as a policy wonk trying to upstage Palin on her ignorance about issues. Biden needs to be short, to the point, passionate, and should not forget the Big 5 reasons people vote for a presidential candidate: Values, Authenticity, Communication and Connection, Trust, and Identity. He has to undercut McCain on these, and support himself and Obama on them.

Again, look for the obvious from Palin: She will repeat "That's gotcha journalism" when asked embarrassing questions. She and McCain are the populist reformers fighting Wall street, indentifying Obama and Biden with Wall Street, and touting no taxpayer bailout, private insurance, cutting corporate taxes, cutting spending, the defense of Georgia from the Russians, and drilling to lower energy costs. She will drop the names of the leaders she met in NY at the UN. She will call Obama too liberal and an orator with no content. She will bring back Reverend Wright and Bill Ayres. She will talk about being pro-life and saving the family and the Second Amendment.


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George Lakoff is the author of Don't Think of an Elephant: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate' (Chelsea Green). He is Professor of Linguistics at the University of California at Berkeley and a Senior Fellow of the Rockridge Institute.

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Lakoff, you're cool and all but Democrats are not gonna listen to you in the long run, man !
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 1, 2008 1:20 PM   
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But 3rd/Independent Party Progressive/Liberals will.

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Gwen Ifill in the tank for Obama
Posted by: Romans1 on Oct 1, 2008 2:05 PM   
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So I can tell you who's going to win this one. The outcome is in the bag.

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» Hypocrite Posted by: Romans1
» Fox news? Posted by: ReallyBearish
» RE: Hypocrite Posted by: mainspark
» RE: Hypocrite Posted by: Shehova
» RE: Hypocrite Posted by: jonestown kool-aid
Go to the store first
Posted by: JohnJlws on Oct 1, 2008 7:22 PM   
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I think to protect himself from the BOS (Bolts Of Stupidity) Biden should consider wearing a tinfoil hat. The rest of us should too, but we may be protected to some degree as the signal will have to travel through cable or satellite. I still think, to be safe, tinfoil hats for everyone. Maybe the government has a coupon.

Has Homeland Security spoken to this yet?

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Biuden the history buff
Posted by: Romans1 on Oct 1, 2008 8:32 PM   
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Being interviewed by Katie Couric on the "CBS Evening News," Biden said: "When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

1- Roosevelt wasn't President then.

2- There was no TV

And liberals claim Palin isn't qualified.

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» Actually Biden's mistake was honest Posted by: ReallyBearish
» RE: Biuden the history buff Posted by: mainspark
» RE: Biuden the history buff Posted by: aonghus36
Gotcha journalism?
Posted by: homunq on Oct 1, 2008 10:18 PM   
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"This is not a game. You don't go to a job interview and complain about the gotcha questions. This is not about mixing up a name, this is about whether or not we have a basic understanding of the issues we'll face in the job we're applying for."

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» Double Standard Posted by: Romans1
Here we go again -- the Pot-Stirrers' Parade, with Maxpayne leading the way.
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 2, 2008 12:44 AM   
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Not surprising to me, Maxpayne started this thread with his typical negative bullshit that offers nothing worthwhile to the conversation.

Then Roams1 got in his dig, saying Gwen Ifill is "in the tank" without offering any proof.

And if that wasn't enough pot-stirring, Roams1 posted another comment bashing Biden.

What tha fuck is wrong with you people? McCain and Palin are the ENEMY, not the Democrats!

One more thing for NEW AlterNet visitors. Unlike Maxpayne and Roams1 who don't care about facts, if you are an undecided voter and want to learn the truth about Old Man McCain and his so-called "heroic" war record, click on: Vote Against McCain (one of the HOTTEST anti-McCain sites on the Web)

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OUESTION:
Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 2, 2008 3:40 AM   
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CAN YOU NAME THE FREEDOMS DESCRIBED IN THE CONSTITUTION

I'd be willing to bet you anything that Governor Palin would not be able to answer it.

Any takers?

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Palin For President

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» RE: OUESTION: Posted by: mainspark
» RE: QUESTION:.... Posted by: Gisele
Any graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy who thinks...
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 2, 2008 3:55 AM   
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Governor Palin is qualified to be president of the United States either slept through his midshipman leadership classes or is a senile senior citizen.

Either case, the Academy grad is also unqualified to be president.

Do America a favor, Old Man McCain. Resign from the race, return to your ranch in Sedona and take Stupid Sarah with you while there's still time for the GOP to pick two more candidates.

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I just have one question, since this is about Biden: DID HE VOTE FOR THE BAIL OUT?
Posted by: Prophit on Oct 2, 2008 4:05 AM   
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If he did, then the question is moot. For anyone who understands what this vote did and what it will do in the very short term (Feb 2009), if it goes through in the house as well, then Biden is now not a candidate for Vice President.....

HE IS A TRAITOR

There is no coverage for that whatsoever and so is Obama as is McCain... so no difference between the parties... they are consolidated after all and this was the final consolidation and message to us YOU ARE IRRELEVANT AND NOW YOU KNOW IT.

I will no longer watch any of the debates, nor will I vote in November. I will try to find my way out of this country as sooon as I can. Good luck all of you who think this is just politics as usual.

You are about to find out what it will be like to live in the dark ages as serfs and slaves and your children and grandchildren will have brutal lives. FASCIST GLOBALISM WILL PREVAIL WE JUST GAVE IT PERMISSION TO DO SO. AND NOW WE HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT US.

Global Fascism/slavery

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I want entertainment
Posted by: colinmeister on Oct 2, 2008 4:29 AM   
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If I watch the debate, I want to see Joe produce ultimate sarcasm, condisencion, and spiteful jokes aginst the bimbo. I just want to see her trashed. Tears would be a total victory. I'm in this for TV entertainment. I'm not a US citizen, so I won't be voting for anybody.

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» RE: I want entertainment Posted by: JSquercia
Presidential Elections Will not bring change
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Oct 2, 2008 4:41 AM   
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How many times do presidential elections have to be stolen by computer fraud before people wake up to the fact that these elections are only a show to make people believe that their vote can make a difference. Both candidates support the bailout bill. Both candidates are in the pocket of big business.

Just go to my website which is www.911inside job.net and watch the interview of computer security expert and Republican Mr. Spoonamore. Spoonamore is a GOP member and a lifelong Republican, having worked on election campaigns with Rudy Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg. He also has 20 years worth of experience in encrypted and networked communications systems for banks, TV, telecommunications, EMS, Military and other uses.

Even if the actual electronic voting machines are not hacked or infected with a virus, transmission of the voting results from each precinct to the central tabulator is done in the same way that cash registers communicate with credit card companies. Most of us know how these transmissions are hacked every day by what is called the "man in the middle" method.

Just listen to this expert talk about how you sure last two elections were hacked and this one will also be hacked.

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WORDS ARE CHEAP AND WE SEEM TO BE ADDICTED TO THEM...
Posted by: wellaware lec on Oct 2, 2008 4:55 AM   
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FOLKS, there is not one word that these candidates say that we can hold them to, ultimately. NOT.....ONE......WORD!!!!!!!! Think about the TV addiction that these candidates are playing into---West Wing, Reality Shows, Desperate Housewives, Arrested Development, game shows, soap operas. All the people who have watched shows like this with a passion have programmed themselves to watch this drama like a TV series, which is ultimately built on fantasy. However, the brain doesn't know the difference betw. fact and fantasy, and neither do alot, alot of politicians, or Americans, apparently.
THINK OF IT THIS WAY: ACTIONS REALLY DO SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. And whoever asked who of the candidates voted for the bailout, for instance, or the "rescue plan", was on the right track. Let's find that out and forget about watching the circus tonight. NOTHING should be riding on the outcome tonight which is really just a fix for the intellectual masses; that will be and is all hype and if you've already done your homework, you don't need more to confirm what tonight will only further show, in words only. Folks, grow up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Biden
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 2, 2008 5:02 AM   
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All Biden needs to do is TELL THE TRUTH. Palin will bury herself with lies and stuff she makes up as she goes along just like her running mate McBush.

Jiff
Is your ISP watching?

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All this obsession with style
Posted by: Julian on Oct 2, 2008 5:00 AM   
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Yeah, how you say things is important - but it counts nothing when there's nothing to say. Michael Moore (the guy ideologues love to hate) has written two important letters on the heist that's completing Mr Greed's job of beggaring the nation The first says in plain terms, directed to normal people not ideologues, what's really planned by those holding up the nation to ransom and those conspiring to pay it in spades. The second is a feasible alternative for breaking the logjam - at the expense of those whose blind greed brought it about. The first is at

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/100953/
michael_moore:_congratulations,_we_stopped
_the_'inevitable'_bailout_for_the_rich/

The second is at

http://yubanet.com/opinions/Michael-
Moore-Here-s-How-to-Fix-the-
Wall-Street-Mess.php

(copy, rejoin and paste the URLs)

A struggle for justice will be going on for a long while yet, no matter what the professional political class does for its sponsors in Washington this week.. Messrs Obama and McCain are out of it - their voice is for paying the ransom so they have nothing to say, in ANY style. Unacceptable to the corporate crooks and their entourage doesn't mean the same things as impracticable.

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All Biden has to do is Talk His Experience and Review Mac's REAL Record
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 2, 2008 5:17 AM   
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Biden doesn't even have to address Palin, Nor her Inexperience and disqualification Credentials- She'll Prove those Herself.Biden would be Best Served to Expose McCains Insider status on this current economic meltdown, His LIES to the American People about Where the Anthrax Came From, which led US into Blood for Oil Contract With OPEC.Biden Could Defeat Palin and McCain by just Telling the Truth about John McCain.Biden Knows the Historical Votes and their Context, he's got Perspective On McCains Treasonous Behavior for the last 26 yrs!This will be Clash of the Titans,But Not Because Of Palin is No Match for Biden - in any stretch of the Imagination.But because Biden has the Opportunity to go for Macs Throat by Revealing the REAL John McCain!Biden can talk about The Keating 5, he can Talk about the lead Up (causes) to the 9/11 atacks, He can Equate the Two through Histroical FACTS and First hand Insight.
Obama Can't Bring Down McCain- But Joe Biden Can. Palin is just the Manniquin being used as Window Dressing- Irrelevant!

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..IF BILL BIDEN CAN'T BEAT PALIN IN A DEBATE..
Posted by: donl51 on Oct 2, 2008 5:22 AM   
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...HE TRULY DOESN'T BELONG IN THE WHITE HOUSE....''SHE'S A JOKE!!

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10 THINGS YOU CAN DO TO PROTEST THE CORPORATE DEBATES
Posted by: pearce on Oct 2, 2008 5:37 AM   
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Perhaps, like me, you have been wondering what you can do to protest the exclusion of third party candidates from debates that are run BY and FOR CORPORATIONS. Congratulations. You are not alone and, unlike many of the 'journalists' at Alternet, you are NOT a stooge for the corporations, clapping for totalitarianism of the duopoly.

Here are some things you can do:

1) Check out and help: Coalition For Free and Open Elections--http://www.cofoe.org/

2) Check and help: Open Voting Consortium:
http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/

3) Watch this video on the corporate elections: www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiTh1jdsdkc

4) Read about the SECRET debate contract. call on the Commission on Presidential Debates to make public the secret debate contract negotiated by the Obama and McCain campaigns.
http://www.opendebates.org/makecontractpublic.html

5) Sign the "open debates" petition: http://www.opendebates.org/yourrole/petition/

6) Contact these national debate "sponsors" to let them know that you object to the rationing of political speech and the disregard shown by the CPD for the opinions of the majority of American voters!

Anheuser-Busch Companies
800-342-5283
E-mail-- http://contactus.anheuser-busch.com/Contactus/email.asp

Bartle Bogle Hegarty (BBH) New York
212-812-6600
E-Mail Bruce Wellington: bruce.wellington@bbh-usa.com

The Howard G. Buffet Foundation
402-556-6641

Sheldon S. Cohen, Esq.
Farr, Miller & Washington
Email: sscohen@farrmiller.com

EDS (an HP Company)
Email-- https://www.eds.com/ssl/forms/contact/index.aspx
http://www.eds.com/

International Bottled Water Association
703-683-5213
Email: ibwainfo@bottledwater.org

The Kovler Fund
617-514-1624
Email: kennedy.library@nara.gov

Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF)
650-854-9400
202-347-5270

YWCA USA
202-467-0801
E-mail: communications@ywca.org

7) Organize Protests outside the Democratic and Republican headquarters in your community, at corporations that sponsor the debates, at radio stations, newspapers and media outlets not covering third party candidates.

8) Write letters to the editor, to blogs, to public forums, and to your friends and family members.

9) Check out the Citizens Debate Commission, created to replace the corporate "Commission on Presidential Debates"--http://www.citizensdebate.org/

10) Watch the third party debates online

Please join us for a third party candidate debate and money bomb (date to be announced as we approach the 10,000 pledges mark, location to be in New York City). All of the major candidates will be invited to participate. The event will be broadcast via www.BreakTheMatrix.com

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» Good idea, lousy timing Posted by: realveive
He should mention her time as a sportscaster
Posted by: just john on Oct 2, 2008 6:42 AM   
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It's actually a professional smile she has going there, and Biden should bring that up.

"Yes, in broadcasting school, they teach their future sportscasters how to grin and run out the clock while saying nothing, for all those times when the control room messes up the tape of the game."

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I know what I'll be watching for tonight...
Posted by: arclight on Oct 2, 2008 6:57 AM   
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...an earpiece in Sarah Palin's ear feeding her everything to say.

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Lilly
Posted by: Lilly on Oct 2, 2008 8:04 AM   
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Steve Chapman has an article this morning "Palin's Small-Town Snobbery is Faulty" attacking the populist position that rural and small-town residents are morally superior to city folks. Figures describing drug- and alcohol-abuse and out-of-wedlock births (and I would add to Chapman's material, domestic abuse, sexual abuse, and domestic-related murder) all are higher in rural areas when you factor in the population differential. I remember that not long after 9-11 Bill O'Reilly spoke of "real Americans" living in "the Heartland"---Americans living in New York City were real enough to be killed by a terrorist attack. None of this is new---Americans have always lived with the myth of the Noble Savage on the frontier---but it is cant that doesn't pass the BS filter. I wish somebody would confront Palin's exploitation of the myth.

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Don't you think...
Posted by: popeurbanxxiii on Oct 2, 2008 8:17 AM   
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Don't you think that the Republicans might have agreed to Gwen Ifil well in advance knowing she has this book about black politics simply to have it available later for McSame/imPalin to use it as a bludgeon on Obama and the Democrats? Don't you smell a rat? -- er, uh, I mean a Turdblossom?

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» So you're admitting it Posted by: Romans1
Debate of the 2 possible VP buffoons
Posted by: logansafi on Oct 2, 2008 9:10 AM   
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Breaking News! Joe loses debate and polls show Americans swinging back to McCain! What a Stupid America we are when so much seems to revolve around these 2 clowns.

It must be absolutely painful for the rest of the world to have to watch? It's almost a Battle Between the Sexes! Like I'm not banking on Macho Man at all.

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» RE: Debate of the 2 possible VP buffoons Posted by: left_libertarian
Thanks, George. But while you were speaking....
Posted by: DaBear on Oct 2, 2008 9:36 AM   
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Obama was off to the Senate to help ensure that the largest redistribution of wealth from the poorest 90% of working people to the 10% of the richest goes through.

I feel so relieved now... a vote for Obama is a vote for change... too bad "change" isn't of the kind that'll keep my kids fed or a roof over us.

I enjoyed the article while I performed my morning ablutions. A wonderful distraction for my beautiful mind.

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So now we're supposed to be rooting for Mr. MBNA, George?
Posted by: MartianBachelor on Oct 2, 2008 10:18 AM   
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You guys really put the "alt" in alternative sometimes... McCain voted against the bankruptcy bill, while Biden championed it. I haven't heard him pushing similar legislation for handling corporate bankruptcies the same way as the bill now treats private one. Quite the contrary. Seems like he has it exactly backwards.

So, sorry to mess up anyone's nice neat little black and white world. Not to mention Biden voted for both the Iraq war and the Patriot Act.

So why are we rooting for this moron over the other one?

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Palin - the Benedict Arnold for womens rights
Posted by: jreal on Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM   
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Biden should also point out the phrase I first heard on this site,

"Republicans believe a rapist has the right to choose the mother of his child." Then go on, "And Sarah Palin is the villian of women's rights on this issue. She is the Benedict Arnold of womens rights and progress. Ladies, she takes your vote, then stabs you in the back in your sleep."

John McCain has consistently thrown her in front of attacks directed at him.

She has taken abuse after abuse from John McCain and has never stood up to this abuse.

This is not a good example for women in the workplace or even in relationships. She is a step backwards for women.

She is just a piece of meat, and her non-profesional manner during the last couple of months, her dim-witted responses, are more walls, and more glass ceilings, and more stereo-types that women cannot afford to have around in this country in the direction of progress.

Now think of national security.

I mean for the sake of humanity! What would happen if McCain needs someone to handle the head in case of emergency or if McCain happens to pass!

We would be in big trouble.

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don't bean count
Posted by: wleming on Oct 2, 2008 12:17 PM   
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Obama got overly specific, and McCain stayed with the platitudes that play. Debating is the poetry of the campaign.. let the journalists do the prose side. There was not a single line in Obamas debate... and in McCains that was worth the name eloquent... nor were there lines worth quoting. Biden likes to talk--get him some sentences worth repeating.. he'll find a way to get them in.

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Tobi Dragert, Los Angeles Area Impeachment Center
Posted by: Teedee on Oct 2, 2008 1:01 PM   
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From George Lakoff's lips to God's ears -- the Dems simply do not get it, even after these last 8 disgraceful years. They have enough ammo to sink any Repub ship for years to come, yet persist in being "civilized" -- Mr. Lakoff can tell them how to be civilized while going for the jugular! Why is he NOT a paid consultant on the Dem team, please pray tell??

All I can say is, if the Dems can't persuade 2/3 of the country that the Repubs must never rule again, then we're basically doomed.

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Don't Always Accept a Promotion
Posted by: radical53 on Oct 2, 2008 4:02 PM   
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Sarah Palin's big mistake was accepting the VP offer. She's not ready and she should have known better. She could have gotten a lot of national attention, as Obama did, by giving the keynote address at the convention. Accepting a "better" position that you can't handle will set you up for failure more often than not.

Of course McCain is the one who is really to blame for Palin's problems. The Republicans really made a huge mistake nominating him. The right-wing candidates (Romney, Huckabee, Thompson) competing over the Republican base split the vote so maverick boy slipped through. I think their plan now is let McCain go down and hope that Obama will drown in all the problems the next President has to tackle. Fortunately for us, they are wrong again.

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Palins folksy, personal interest stories may win some points
Posted by: Right Wing Psychoholic In Denial on Oct 2, 2008 4:32 PM   
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Is Biden ready to counteract them in the debates?

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watching it right now...
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Oct 2, 2008 7:02 PM   
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just let her run her mouth, Joe. Political suicide made simple.

:D

jdfu!

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She's No George W. Bush
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Oct 2, 2008 7:22 PM   
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Starting with the deliberate mispronunciation of “nuclear”. Ummmmmmmmm, we’ve seen that show. Saying it wrong once is down home. Saying it wrong over and over is ersatz down home, created by the same folks at Rove/Hughes who brought us eight years of Bush.

Sarah Palin kind of woman American men would like to have a few shots of tequila with. Joe Biden is the kind of guy who would borrow your lawn mower, fuck it up and then try to lie his way out of it.

The Schmooze Off over Israel proved that the differences between the candidates are both superficial and temporary. If this it the best representative democracy can do, maybe that whole approach is tapped, used up.

We are change.

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» RE: She's No George W. Bush Posted by: Direct Democracy
Palin doing well
Posted by: Romans1 on Oct 2, 2008 7:34 PM   
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I can't believe Biden mentioned Bork. Thats what got me involved in politics in the first place.

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» Debate done... so is Biden Posted by: Romans1
At least Palin can look someone in the eyes
Posted by: crashgrab on Oct 2, 2008 8:07 PM   
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I disagree with Palin on just about everything, but at least she can look another candidate in the eyes and have a conversation. John McCain was completely arrogant and rude in his debate with Obama. If he treats a fellow American and Senator that way, then how is he going to treat other heads of state, especially heads of state we're in conflict with? If elected his behavior like that will be dangerous for our national security.

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Palin was the drunken arrogant lady you see at the cocktail party, Biden was kind kept things decent
Posted by: jreal on Oct 2, 2008 8:41 PM   
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Palin was just making rediculous blurps after another. Something a drunken lady does at the cocktail party. It's like the lady that has heard a one liner that everyone has already heard, and she arrogantly says them