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Stuff White People Like

By Samhita Mukhopadhyay, The American Prospect. Posted October 9, 2008.


What does an extremely popular blog about white culture tell us about race in America?

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They like running marathons and eating sushi, venerating Jon Stewart and bragging about not owning a TV. They talk endlessly about HBO's "The Wire" and dance self-consciously to '80s music. They're into "irony" and have a tendency to threaten to move to Canada.

"They" are white people, and they're the subject of Stuff White People Like, a flavor-of-the-moment blog that, since appearing in January of 2008, boasts nearly 30 million hits. There are over 100 numbered entries, including Having Two Last Names (entry No. 22), Dinner Parties (No. 90), Arts Degrees (No. 47), and, yes, Barack Obama (No. 8). Think of it as a project to affectionately examine the classic conservative description of "latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading" liberal elites. But despite the name, it's not about white people, not really. It's about a certain kind of highly educated, generally young, culturally liberal white person who has enough disposable income to discover an affinity for kitchen gadgets (No. 54). And it's written by just such a white person: 29-year-old Christian Lander, an Internet copywriter who recently snagged a $300,000 advance for a book based on the blog, which hits shelves this month.

Commentators and bloggers of all races have hailed the site as groundbreaking. Some have said it is edgy and deals with white privilege in a real way; others have said that it is a refreshing and funny take on racism in our culture. But this is true more on an implicit than explicit level. Even though some posts deal directly with race, such as the entries on Diversity (No. 7), Being an Expert on YOUR Culture (No. 20), and Being the Only White Person Around (No. 70), Lander didn't set out to write an academic treatise on whiteness. Rather, he set out to joke about it. What sets it apart from the hundreds of other well-written, funny Web sites is that it's hit a nerve -- especially because it appeared at a time when America was captivated by the issue of race in the presidential primary. And so it's worth thinking about exactly what this blog tells us about whiteness and why its mostly white, affluent audience has so enthusiastically embraced this gently mocking rundown of their culture.

Part of the reason Stuff White People Like is a "safe" place for white people to talk about race is because Lander fits the exact profile he mocks: He's a white, 20-something, "creative class"-type based in Los Angeles. The blog is primarily a place for white people to chortle at the oddities of race and class and then congratulate themselves for having done so, thus neatly avoiding the need to delve any deeper. Or, conversely, they may like the blog because it allows them to disassociate themselves and laugh at those white yuppies. The core message is that it's OK to be rich and white, as long as you laugh about it. No further analysis required. It's a message that, unsurprisingly, rich, white people love to hear.

It's worth wondering if such a blog could have thrived were its author a person of color. Would white people still read it and find the humor affectionate? Or would they suddenly detect a more harshly critical undertone? There are many people of color who write regularly (and yes, sometimes even with a sense of humor) about racism and whiteness, but they're not getting six-figure book deals. In effect, Lander is rewarded for being white, even though he is making fun of white people. To his credit, he is self-aware enough to mock this irony. He broke the news that he had a forthcoming book by publishing an entry on Stuff White People Like titled, "Book Deals" (No. 92). But that doesn't change the fact that, were he a person of color, No. 92 might instead have been "Calling Me A Racist."

To be sure, I find the site funny, and much of it rings true. I live in San Francisco, land of Prius drivers (No. 60), gentrified neighborhoods (No. 73), and Asian enthusiasts (No. 11), and have had many "aha" moments while reading the blog. The city is such a perfect example of yuppie white culture that it even has its own entry (No. 91). As a person of color living in a town that has been brutally gentrified and is now home to lots of white, self-described "global citizens," it feels good to read a blog that expresses a lot of what I think about the liberal white culture that dominates the city. In some sense, it's all the more powerful because it's written by a white man rather than by a person of color. We're usually the ones stuck pointing out these things.

People of color appreciate Stuff White People Like because it makes visible the assumed invisibility of a certain type of white culture. In doing so, it opens the door to the admission that, yes, white culture is a distinct, often peculiar, and even varied phenomenon. It is not simply "American culture," or worse, "the culture." I grew up hearing white friends say, "You are so lucky to have a culture," and I remember thinking, "Dude, you have a culture, too." But they didn't see it as a culture. It was too pervasive, too synonymous with "American" for them to feel ownership over it, even though it clearly excluded people of color. The mere fact of pointing out that a dominant white culture exists and has implicit membership requirements and shared references will earn you a lot of fans among people of color.


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Samhita is an activist based in San Francisco. She has worked as a blog consultant for New American Media, Wiretap and Colorlines.

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RACIST article. This author is a disgrace to good Indians !
Posted by: maxpayne on Oct 9, 2008 12:47 AM   
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Besides, most whites are not racist. It's just that we're all fed up with weak "opposition" and want bold and tough progressive/liberal populism to sustain. If the author had actually visited rural America, he/she would have realized that actually rural America has a lot of liberal working class values the corporate media do not want you to know about.

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» Bigot! Posted by: chuckjs
» Excellent point Posted by: Bobsays
» RE: xcellent point Posted by: Bobsays
» KKK much?? Posted by: Elendil
» Whites..... Posted by: Karl.Ben
» Good Indians????? Posted by: Deep
Life become a masked ball without the party.
Posted by: Sojourner on Oct 9, 2008 1:29 AM   
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Sounds to me as though the blog at issue describes the mind-set of the corporate bureaucrat.

There are men who like to wear the uniform, even if it is a gray flannel suit and a rep tie. Now even female androids wear the pants suit. We almost nominated a woman famous for them. I remember being told in my youth by an older woman that my wing-tip shoes, she had been told, meant I could be trusted. Of course. You don’t imagine they were comfortable, do you? Not as punishing as women in high heels, just a poor imitation.

Corporate bureaucrats wear the same clothes, eat the same food, live in the same boxes, and talk the same talk. It's a way to hide.

We don’t have a culture when we think like cookie-cutters. We have a factory production line. It’s what we like. Ain’t it a shame. We laugh to keep from crying.

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The concept of "Stuff White People Like" is not new.
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 9, 2008 1:42 AM   
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They had the same thing in Nazi Germany.

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It is proof white people are the glue, the anchor
Posted by: Bobsays on Oct 9, 2008 2:12 AM   
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It is proof that in a heterogeneous, polyglot society, the true cultural glue, the truly open minded, are the white people. It shows that despite all the criticism and easy racism against whites, they are actually the ones who keep the whole show on the road.

It's white people who love to eat the cuisines of other cultures, wear the clothes of other cultures, read the books of other cultures(more books by African authors are bought by white people, than by Africans). And also this important point needs to be made: white people are extraordinarily diverse: they have many faiths, they look so very different, with a wide variety of hair and eye colours, they speak many different languages, they have sophisticated cuisines. Let's hope that gets appreciated in the coming years as the US becomes a majority non-white nation.

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» A question for Lauren! Posted by: chuckjs
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» RE: question for you Posted by: 6399
Dominant culture
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Oct 9, 2008 3:13 AM   
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I disagree that it's the "dominant culture". In fact, white liberal yuppies get it from all sides, including poor, middle-class, and wealthy whites from red states...and blue states. If you want to talk about any sort of dominant, white, upper-middle-class professional culture, I think you'll find that they're uptight Republicans who like to drive gas guzzlers, sit in the front pew on Sunday, and micro-manage their kids.

I find white liberal yuppies annoying sometimes, and fun to make fun of. But let's not forget that these folks have their uses. They're big supporters of the environmental movement, if only to have a place to show off their $5000 mountain bikes. I suppose they're goody-goodies because they can afford to be, but it's better than being a gas-guzzling scumbag in a suit and tie.

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Always a narrow, limited view
Posted by: Clarksville76 on Oct 9, 2008 5:59 AM   
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This is a good example of a non-white getting away with criticizing "white culture" without apparently realizing that they are going against their own values; being respectful of other people's cultures. If a white were to write an article criticizing Indian, Chinese, or African culture, they would be seen as insensitive or racist. It's no different here.

I don't mind this article, because sometimes over-generalizations are needed when digging out subtle or complex truths, but please remember to allow this even when it's a white person digging something out from another culture or gender.

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Thanks for the heads up! Now to check it out!
Posted by: sausage on Oct 9, 2008 6:12 AM   
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I didn't even know the Stuff White People Like blog existed.

Really now that I've taken a look at SWPL and read a couple of entries...it's pretty boring. Not at all funny, either, kind of like real white people. You could call it the Family Circus of blogging, it's so mundane. Hell, who cares if White people wear pea coats or play ultimate Frisbee?

So the joke's on the dupes who think this crap's funny and on the buzzkills who denounce it as racist. It's neither funny or racist.

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Out of Touch
Posted by: Gravitas on Oct 9, 2008 6:23 AM   
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I think this type of thing is increasingly out of touch as everyone's culture will change with economic hard times. Maybe there is still such a segment of society, but most people are more worried about treading water at this point than anything else. Honestly, posting an article like this at this particular time of crisis is like talking about French etiquette while Marie A. was at the guillotine.

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» Yuppies really aren't suffering. Posted by: andabottleof_rum
This article and the material of that blogger are pro-yuppie rag.
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Oct 9, 2008 6:27 AM   
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It's a way of saying, "Yeah, we yuppies have some odd and annoying qualities, but we're just so cute that you can overlook it."

Some white people have discovered a way to make others think they're superior to other white people by claiming white people are racist, then describing their own idiosyncratic behaviors as cutesy and innocuous while portraying other whites (non-yuppies) as vicious.

This stuff is really about class superiority and inferiority among whites.

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Lol, funniest part is the wonder at someone getting a $300,000 book deal...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Oct 9, 2008 6:32 AM   
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...for writing a book targeted at a demographic that prides itself on "cultural awareness" AND has disposable income.

Ya know, if you can stretch out the phrase "pop-culture stereotype" into a a 300 page manifesto and make money doing it, then you deserve every penny that self-deprecating fools with more dollars than sense will throw at you. I wouldn't buy a 'light hearted take on racial profiling', but I suspect that it will grace the bookshelves of the overly vain and self-conscious, the niche for which such tomes are intended.

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What isn't by white people and for white people?
Posted by: nfamous on Oct 9, 2008 6:46 AM   
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This entire country and way of life is by white people and for white people, not just that silly blog. The Founding Fathers were rich whites. The Puritans were rich whites. Christianity is just white nationalism. It goes on and on.

Whites used technological force to take over every square inch of the planet. Now they are about to ruin it using more technology because they don't care if their own children suffer as long as their own lives are filled with excess. White people have no spirituality whatsoever. Everything to them is a competition instead of a community. This dog eat dog belief system is destroying the world and creating poverty, disease and death in the form of corporations that whites worship.

It all goes back to the psychosis that whites have about their skin. There is nothing that can be done to save humanity at this point. Whites are at the steering wheel and are determined to veer straight off the cliff of existence.

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Simpletons The World Over
Posted by: loxias on Oct 9, 2008 7:04 AM   
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What a scary world we live in.
No one can see past the end of their street.
Everyone is enabled in their reliance on unexplored belief.
Liking kitchen gadgets is not culture.
99% of American homes have a TV, and it's on an average of 7 hours a day.
That's our culture.
Therefore, it's no wonder that people are dumb enough to get excited about knowing someone else bought a Prius too.
Or dumb enough to make racial generalizations because of it.
Guess what. More Indian people in India buy books by white people than white people in India.
Do you know what that MEANS?!
Exactly. Nothing. Except that 99% of the responses to this article, much like 99% of the articles you see period, reflect a CULTURE of 7 hours a day of TV in 99% of homes.
Good luck people.

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The author asks...
Posted by: Karina on Oct 9, 2008 7:05 AM   
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What does an extremely popular blog about white culture tell us about race in America?

Nothing. Nada. Zip. Not jack shit.
A blog? Seriously? One person's blog tells us about race in America? Please.

By that rationale, you can pick any one blog you stumble across on the web and use it to make a statement on a whole culture. There are so many flaws in that argument that it's surprising that it merits an article.

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» RE: The author asks... Posted by: GEM-592
Wow.
Posted by: esactun on Oct 9, 2008 7:15 AM   
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You're so racist that you don't even know it; you've internalized it as normality.

Only white people are diverse? (Do you know how many culutres and languages are in Africa alone?) Only white people take in things from other cultures? (Don't Chinese people go to McDonald's?) Only white people are the "glue" holding the country together (never mind that most of the politicos trying to divide us are white...).

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» text reprinted for context Posted by: esactun
Racism is
Posted by: chrysalis124812 on Oct 9, 2008 7:26 AM   
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giving someone a name they have not chosen for themselves, assuming that people that look a certain way are the same as all the other people that look like them. Someday we people will get over it because everybody really is an individual unique person.

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» ??? Posted by: dnaylor
Not Every White Person can be White
Posted by: MB6 on Oct 9, 2008 7:49 AM   
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I enjoyed SWPL because it revealed to me why I had so many aspirations that left me so disappointed and feeling bad about myself--of course I want to live in another country or San Francisco; or get paid to work for a non-profit cultural institution instead of a soul-crushing for-profit conglomerate. SWPL cracks me up--now the blog is not so good but I saw the paperback book the other day (do WP like paperbacks better than hardbacks?) and it just made me laugh (taxonomy of WP baby names, in particular). On some level I am just so white but on another I am just not white enough and never will be. It seems simple enough to be white--just move to Brooklyn--but in reality it's very expensive to be truly white. And that's the part that makes me feel better about myself being a down-market white person. I get sunburn and have cultural advantage for driving while white but I can't afford the whole white package. And now the economy can't afford to be white either. So we're all even now.

But I still really want to move to Italy and get a master's degree in art history, and not need student loans, a string of awful p/t jobs, or parental subsidies to do it.

That's the other secret--white people don't have to support themselves and their aspirations just from their own income--it's ok to be over 30 and still get support from your family, just as long as you don't live with them.

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Stuff white people like?
Posted by: zipper696 on Oct 9, 2008 7:56 AM   
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er...howza about "white stuff people like"?

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Interesting place for a Klan rally
Posted by: RebelMars on Oct 9, 2008 8:25 AM   
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Wow, I never expected this site to hold a white pride rally. That's pretty scary. There are too many lies in the comments sections, as well as plain crazy ways of looking at the world, to really respond. Maybe I should have read the article and immediately then closed the page.

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» RE: poor jeronimus Posted by: 876
» Yep, pretty sad. Posted by: dnaylor
» RE: Yep, pretty sad. Posted by: GEM-592
What a Waste of Space
Posted by: lbrlw13 on Oct 9, 2008 9:04 AM   
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I just finished reading the book "Stuff White People Like" and as I am white and live in an urban area, I laughed at it. I recognized some absurd things in the book that applied to my life and was able to laugh at myself. This article talks about the blog and seems to try to make the point that the book/blog is successful only because it was written by a white guy. So what?

So, it was written by a white guy and not an Asian or African American. Big Deal! This isn't news. Look at Margaret Cho or Chris Rock - They're funny and poke fun at their own cultures. If a white person got on stage and started mocking Korean or African American culture, would it be funny? No, of course not. It would be called racist. What's the point?

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Hmmm
Posted by: wdarling on Oct 9, 2008 9:41 AM   
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I'm white and have found myself puzzled by quite a few of the entries in Stuff White People Like, mostly because I live in Atlanta, which is not majority white, and many of the "white" things described are things that I see people, in general, doing, liking, discussing, etc. I know a wholelot of black people who are obsessed with NPR, wear Birkenstocks and shop at Whole Foods. I see a lot of the things in the blog as commonalities based as much on class as on race.

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God, I'm disappointed
Posted by: thistleblower on Oct 9, 2008 10:02 AM   
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In the level of defensiveness on this board. It says so much about the demographic that reads this (all?) liberal blogs.

As a white liberal american who has a "creative class" job but is treated like a lackey, who barely has enough income to make payments on my $60,000 (yes!!!) mortgage, I am sickened by the isolating effects of gentrification on culture and bourgeois pronouncements of "diversity," congratulations and backslapping of the so-called "liberal" elites. I am glad to read this article. I thought for a while I was the only one who thought that "What White People like" was a damning indictment.

But for those who scoff at the book advance- mayebe you have enough income to have the luxury to scoff? I would love to get a break like that. I have student loans that would love to be paid and a car that i can barely afford to maintain.

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Stuff Black People Like too
Posted by: Kym525 on Oct 9, 2008 10:40 AM   
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"what about people of color who fit that profile? Many upper-class people of color can relate to the blog. We eat expensive sandwiches (No. 63) and listen to public radio (No. 44), too."

I'm a black woman who loves Jane Austen, food from around the world, the BBC and heavy metal. Just as white people are diverse, so are people of color. Of course, given the MSM's penchant for sensationalism and for stereotype, one wouldn't know that there was a black Grand Master of chess (Maurice Ashley), and that there is an entire group of upper-class black people who think a "hood" is something to wear.

I've always said that whites are allowed the freedom of diversity that is not accorded to people of color. A single white serial killer is not indicative of the entire race, whereas a black or brown gangbanger is viewed as representative of an entire race. If one says the word "welfare", a black or brown face is immediately who comes to mind. Barack and Michelle Obama are a conundrum to many whites because he's educated, speaks the Queen's english better than many of them do, and doesn't fit a narrow profile of what they've been brainwashed is the sum and total of black life. They are forced to rethink all their negative ideas of blacks and for some, it's an uncomfortable proposition. Personally, I love it when some white person asks me what I'm listening to on my mp3 and watching their jaws drop when I tell them it's Savatage or Dream Theater. More often than not, they've never even heard of progressive metal, so it's even more of a kick.

Of course, any article like this is certain to bring out the trolls from underneath their bridge, and I wasn't disappointed. Both jeronimous and bobsays had to rear their ugly little heads as cheerleaders for the sheet-wearing contingent.

What's funny is that I agree fundamentally that whites should be proud of what they have accomplished--after all, there were white members of the NAACP in its early days, and who could possibly forget John Brown? Where jeronimous and I differ is that for him and others of his ilk, white pride is not only dependent upon the denigration of other groups, but upon using violence to enforce their views of supremacy.

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» Metal Posted by: kepstein7777
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876
Posted by: 876 on Oct 9, 2008 11:08 AM   
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I’m not a European but I like dinner parties Volvos etc. As if liking what is generally likeable amounts to culture or “whiteness”. The only aspect of it all that amounts to culture is the pretentious way that these people go about liking such things. Secondly, I don’t accept absurd terms such as “people of color” imposed by pompous Americans who feel they can impose their history and their complexes on everyone on the globe. I cannot identify with a term like “people of color” just because some American divides humanity with in such terms.

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» RE: Oh puhleeze!!! Posted by: Kym525
try "The Onion"for more white stuff
Posted by: persephone1961 on Oct 9, 2008 11:33 AM   
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i get my daily chuckle from The Onion online
they do an excellent job of lampooning "invisible" white culture

and they have at least twenty years' worth of articles in their archives

i have not visited the SWPL site yet, but it sounds a lot like we are bringing back the 80's and yuppies

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Hate.
Posted by: Cybershaman on Oct 9, 2008 11:47 AM   
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All I see is that we hate each other. In a 'dog eat dog' paradigm we are all basically at each others throats all the time. When we focus on petty differences, or their stereotypes, it soothes our conciences by masking the overall hatred that sickens our souls. Even within the specific races we see a lot of this contempt towards each other. Much of this boils down to economic differences, with those who have prosperous systems looking disparagingly on those with struggling systems.

Because the human race started out eating a lot of acorns, which are high in tannin, we probably had a reddish skin color in the beginning. Of course, it was mostly hidden by body hair. Selective breeding became the way tribes differentiated themselves. Specific traits became 'fashionable' and DNA took over from there.

Remember, we have existed through a few ice ages. This would have forced the population back towards the equator. As the Earth warmed these tribes would have spread out again. Those that stayed in equatorial areas evolved darker skin tones to deal with the sunlight, while those who traveled towards the poles lost much of their coloration. The oriental culture has been eating saffron in their diets for eons so I suspect THAT might play a large role in their skin tone also. The anomoly of the Eskimoes is due to their rather recent migration into colder climes.

Anyway, back to hatred. Most people mistakenly think hate is the opposite of love, when it is actually fear. Hate is merely a component of fear, as trust is a corollary of love.

Now that you all know this, you are no longer racists! Start loving and cooperating with each other!
;-)

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» RE: Hate. Posted by: samba
876
Posted by: 876 on Oct 9, 2008 12:31 PM   
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As far as Asians, Europeans see Asians as a way for to pretend they are worldly without actually knowing carp about anything. Asians typically worship Europeans, hence they are unthreatening and unchallenging to Europeans who in turn feign admiration in a sad attempt to pretend they are interesting or worldly. In fact most Europeans continue to be astoundingly ignorant of the vast majority of the rest of humanity, its cultures and peoples. Another result of white racism is the hierarchy of races they have created based on who is least threatening to European cultural dominance. However with the rise of China you may soon see that Europeans will soon find Asians unacceptable and demonize them as savages, terrorists or whatever else smears they can dream up. Today’s interesting others are tomorrows terrorists after all. God forbid you be cursed with some resource the white covets, this will undoubtedly result in your race being deemed a terrorist or savage of some sort.

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DEAR AUTHOR
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 9, 2008 1:27 PM   
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Many fine writers rely on shock to sell their stuff. If it's your plan to ride that wave, I suggest you get some new material. You get a "D" because you did the assignment, but it really does stink. ANNA

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Republican hatred for liberals and people of color
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 9, 2008 2:00 PM   
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I wanted to title my comment "God damn racist America" but that would not be politically correct.

From my viewpoint as an independent voter raised in the South by white liberal parents, the party of Grand Old Prejudice is a sanctuary for the dregs of American society -- rich bigots, racist rednecks, gun nuts, homophobes, rabid anti-abortionists, hypocrites, fascists, neocons, control freaks, rightwing Bible-pounders -- the John McCains, Sara Palins, Trent Lotts, Tom Delays, Pat Robinsons, Ralph Reeds, Bill Bennetts, Charlton Hestons, Ann Coulters, Rush Limbaughs, G. Gordon Liddys, Sean Hannities... the list goes on and on.

Those assorted groups and individuals have one thing in common. They hate liberals with a passion, which I don’t understand.

According to my dictionary, liberal means being a “free-man, not restricted,” someone who “favors political reform.” Based on that definition, liberals, which includes freedom-seeking people of color, are America's true patriots, not rightwing Republicans.

Liberals cherish individual freedom and will defend it to their deaths, if necessary. I think that’s admirable. Rightwing Republicans feel just the opposite. Listen to Talk Radio or watch Fox News, substitute “Jews” for “liberals” and you will get a taste of what Nazi Germany was like before WWII.

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Magyarul
Posted by: Roger Király on Oct 9, 2008 4:56 PM   
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Micsoda kutyaszar!

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White People....HUH????
Posted by: gellero1 on Oct 9, 2008 6:11 PM   
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Can you imagine if there was a television network called 'White Entertainment Television". ??

So why is there BET without criticism???

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» RE: White People....HUH???? Posted by: Quannah
» RE: White People....HUH???? Posted by: ABetterFuture
What's okay and what's not?
Posted by: melissazumsteg on Oct 9, 2008 6:45 PM   
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I've struggled with the issue of not wanting to follow the pack, but I feel like being set as an example of my particular demographic is inescapable. Aren't we all stereotypes? If you're going to categorize people at all, then no one can escape being classified. So many people complain about everyone else doing everything all wrong, but how about setting up what we CAN do, what works, what is GOOD? 'What White People Like' is funny, and it does poke fun at whitey, but it just goes to further separate us all racially and demographically into neat little packages. The argument is that we are small group creatures, and all humans tend to lump "others" into categories; that the world is too big to embrace each person as an individual. But we are now a globalized, connected species in desperate need of some mental evolution in order to deal with the uncharted social territory that being globalized brings. I don't have the answers, but I'd like to hear from anyone who thinks there might be some.

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THERE ARE PLENTY OF WHITE WHO ARE EATING AT THE FOOD PANTRIES
Posted by: cori on Oct 9, 2008 7:04 PM   
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Watch the Denver Story on BILL MOYERS THE JOUNRAL on PBS on your computer and the view of what white people are doing has changed for tens of thousands. We are getting poorer by the minute and if Obama doesn't get in we will be eating dirt!!!!
Bush is going to try and steal this election. Don't let him!

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Bush isn't running m.
Posted by: lwbaby on Oct 9, 2008 8:31 PM   
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you simpleton.

If Obama wins and you are white and homeless, prepare to stay that way. Reparations, baby, reparations. Brought to you by an Obama/Pelosi/Reid government. No checks and balances.

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» RE: Bush isn't running m. Posted by: Quannah
"stuff white people like" should not be addressed to minorities
Posted by: Vic Fedorov on Oct 12, 2008 7:56 AM   
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I read the blog. It's witty. Not always true. Carcuturing whites.

But to address it to minorities, as if they don't relate to whites, or have trouble relating to white culture, I found offensive. The posts are funny enough to not have the author write as if writing a how-to-relate book for minorities.

The author even seems to be hurt by the lack of racial harmony in America; whereas the point is to be part of the solution.

And the author's assumption it is easy for white people to have friends, or white people have friends, is erroneous. Friends are like jewels: very hard to come by. The world is not as it appears. There is a difference between reality and appearance.

So between the buying into a false world of appearance which whites are associated with and responsible for, and the mock condescion to minorities, when I have much more respect for them....I mean on the one hand the parody of whites is viable, but addressing the posts to minorities, unnecessary, insulting and mean.

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BUSH WANTS MCCAIN IN AND SO DOES THE GOP
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 3:34 PM   
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The GOP is working very hard to sabotage the election. Bush is fully behind McCain in every way so as far as I'm concerned Bush's agenda is McCains. This is the only reason why Bush would be so supportive and if you don't know this by now you are soarly undereducated.

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WATCH THE DENVER REALITY. ON THE NET, BILLMOYERS THE JOURNAL
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 3:48 PM   
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August 22, 2008

BILL MOYERS: Welcome to the JOURNAL.

Working Americans, and that's most people, are experiencing the "big squeeze." In fact, they're trying to survive one of the most profound social and economic changes in our history. The middle class is disappearing, facing a decline in standards of living. So you'd hope that the Democrats in Denver next week and the Republicans in St. Paul the following week would confront this crisis head on and not just serenade struggling families with a chorus of sympathetic but meaningless sound bites.

As wages stagnate, prices are soaring. Economists call this pain the "misery index." It's a combination of the unemployment and inflation rates, and it's what politicians have in mind when they ask, "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" Well, the misery index is the highest it's been since George Bush's father became president, seventeen years ago.

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WHATS HAPPENING IN DENVER
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 3:50 PM   
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When it comes to feeling the misery index, however, you don't go to the economists or the politicians. You go to where regular people live. And that's what we have been doing on this broadcast for months now. We've seen how the mortgage crisis has devastated neighborhoods in Cleveland, how workers in Los Angeles are scrambling for a living wage, and how gas and food prices are choking the ability of food pantries to stave off hunger here in metropolitan New York.

TOM MCGARRY: For a while I was very cynical and I looked down my nose at a lot of people, but now I am one of those people that I looked down on.

BILL MOYERS: This week, we go to the city of the hour - Denver, the site of the Democratic National Convention. Nearly 75,000 people will gather in the Mile High City as Barack Obama makes history by becoming the first African American to be nominated by a major party for president.

But outside the convention center doors, history of a different, more prosaic sort is being made. This year oil hit a record high - $147 a barrel when last year, it was less than half that - around $68. A loaf of bread is up 14% from last year, a dozen eggs is up 33%, and pizza makers have seen the cost of their cheese soar from $1.30 to $1.76. Flour used to make the dough has tripled in price. As these prices soar, the value of homes is sinking. One in three home buyers since 2003 now owe more than their property's estimated worth. Not only has home equity plummeted, so has the value of other holdings, like stocks and bonds and pensions, the investments families count on as a cushion during hard times.

So America's middle class, our "fearful families" as some people call them, is taking it on the chin. The history-making nominations aside, all the rhetoric from all the speakers at next week's Democratic Convention will be so much hot air above the Rockies unless the party comes to grip with how people are living and hurting today.

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EVERYBODY IS HURTING BLACK AND WHITE
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 3:52 PM   
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RICK KARR: The line started early in the morning, outside a school in a middle-class suburb of Denver. Parents and their kids queued up for a little help, something to tide them over in tough economic times. Within a few hours, there were scores of people in line - not for free food, or clothes, or vouchers to take the sting out of gas prices - but for free school supplies. A local aid agency has been doing this for ten years, but this year, far more families showed up than ever before. Jolene Montoya picked up things for her three kids at the event. She says she was laid off a few months ago, so she simply can't afford to buy everything that her kids need for school.

JOLENE MONTOYA: I have a high schooler, a middle schooler, and one just starting school. I, last year, I think it cost me over $200 to buy for just to the two.

RICK KARR: Montoya says she never thought of herself as someone who'd need handouts. She has two college degrees - she even worked as a college recruiter for a few years and just a few months ago, she was working for a big telecom firm and on track to earn about eighty thousand dollars this year. But her firm decided to downsize and Montoya joined the ranks of unemployed Coloradans, about one in twenty people in the state, the highest rate in three years.

JOLENE MONTOYA: At first I thought, "Oh, it's not going to be a problem for me to find a job, because I've never had a problem finding a job before." I mean, I'm going on interviews, probably four a week. And they're just not turning out. They want to pay you $10 an hour. And I can't support a four people family with $10 an hour.

RICK KARR: Now, after three months without a paycheck, the bills are piling up, collection agencies are calling and there's no relief in sight. The week before we sat down to talk to her, she tapped into her retirement account. And she decided to sell off some of her possessions.

JOLENE MONTOYA: I have a TV and, you know, an iPod that I want to get rid of. And, you know I have some child support. I've been saving to pay my rent, but my rent is due, my public service due, my phone is going to get shut off pretty soon. But phone is really important for me to have. As long as I keep my home phone and not my cell phone, that's fine. 'Cause I need a way for a potential employer to be able to get in t in touch with me.

MAG STRITTMATTER: You know, that could be any of us. And really, truly: we look at people coming through our doors as our neighbors, because they could be our neighbors. It could be us.

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There is more poverty then we know
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 4:19 PM   
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RICK KARR: Marsha Brown is one of those people. A year ago, this single mother of two and member of the Northeast Church of Christ wasn't thinking about tough economic times. She had a college degree, she was working full-time for a credit reporting agency, and, she says, earning enough to support her family. She thought that she had decent health benefits, too. The trouble started when Brown was diagnosed with high blood pressure, and it turned out that her insurance wouldn't fully cover her new prescriptions.

RICK KARR: Then Brown got laid off when her company closed its Denver office. And yet even as her finances got tighter, she couldn't think of herself as one of "those people" who need handouts.

MARSHA BROWN:At first I thought the food bank program was for homeless people, soup kitchen kind of thing. But come to find out it's for regular people that fall on hard times. And we started participating in that. And by participating in the food bank it cut my cost for grocery, which then gave me the money to spend, on my prescriptions.

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TOO MANY ARE SUFFERING ALL ACROSS THE NATION
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 4:28 PM   
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MARSHA BROWN:We look at food bank first. And so once we get food bank, then we decide, okay, do we pay the light bill this month? Or maybe this month we need to pay a little on the light bill, a little on the gas bill, so I can afford to put gas in my car to make it for the next start of the month. So it is juggling. And after a while, after you've been doing this for a little while, you get a little experience at it. And you find out as long as you don't have a shut-off, you're still ahead of the game.

RICK KARR: But the rules of the game keep changing. Take the rising cost of utilities, for example: Xcel Energy - Colorado's largest utility - expects to shut off service to seventy two thousand customers this year; that's one-third more than last year. And it's part of a nationwide trend: Shutoffs are up nearly thirty percent in Chicago, and more than fifty percent in the Detroit area. A record number of Americans have fallen behind on their utility bills. Starting this fall, Coloradans will be paying up to thirty percent more for heat than they did last year. So Church of Christ Pastor Bruce Meadows says the best he can do for his needy neighbors is give them space heaters.

RICK KARR: Drive down the streets near the Church of Christ in Montbello, and you'll see that home ownership doesn't offer the protection against poverty that it once did. The neighborhoods pockmarked with empty houses - homes that were purchased with sub-prime loans that turned out to be more than borrowers could handle. The Denver area's like much of the country in that regard: City officials predict they'll see forty percent more foreclosures this year than they did last. The state's Foreclosure Hotline is trying to bring that number down.

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The pain reaches far beyond Denver -
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 4:32 PM   
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ZACH URBAN:There's a fallout from each foreclosure. And once you get a number of foreclosures in the same neighborhood, that fallout begins to exponentially increase.
SHERRY HERRINGTON:We've had nights where we just sit and cry together. And you know, some days you just think there's no hope. You know, we've sat in the home with no electricity for several days. We've been here without water, sometimes for two days at a time, just waiting for payday to come so you could pay that bill, because they're like, "Nope. You've passed the
RICK KARR: Jolene Montoya's three months behind on her car payments - that's fourteen hundred dollars; one month behind on her phone and utilities - that's three hundred. And there's another two hundred fifty dollars for her kids' school fees. But the number that has her worried the most is the rent. It's just over a thousand dollars, and she's a month behind. Her landlord is charging her a penalty of ten bucks a day until she settles up. And if she doesn't pay up by the deadline she'll get socked with an additional penalty of three hundred dollars. The bottom line is that by the end of the month, she'll end up paying more than half a month's rent in penalties. It's like you're between a rock and a hard place. I mean, you're trying to do the right thing by looking for a job every day. I could very well gone and applied for welfare. But I didn't want to be that. I didn't want to do that. I went to college so I wouldn't have to do that. I went to college so I wouldn't have to go and depend on the government for that money.

RICK KARR: Montoya says a lot of her friends and relatives are just as vulnerable as she is just one calamity away from a financial meltdown. She says getting an education and working hard don't guarantee a place in the middle class anymore.

JOLENE MONTOYA: You go to school, and you're not going to have to struggle anymore. You know, this is going to improve your life. And I genuinely believed that. But then the last few years, you know, you get into a position, and it lasts for about a year. And then they lay you off, because they find somebody that will work for cheaper. And that's basically how it goes. It's like the cycle, you know.

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ALL PEOPLE ARE POORER ALL ACROSS THE NATION
Posted by: cori on Oct 12, 2008 4:36 PM   
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RICK KARR: The pain reaches far beyond Denver and its suburbs: More than half of all Americans say they're "struggling" to get by today. Wages are stagnant, or falling, while wholesale inflation is higher than it's been since the early days of the Reagan Administration. Meanwhile, as home prices fall, Americans' net worth is falling, too. It's enough to make single mother Sherry Herrington think that the middle class is a thing of the past.

From The Journal: “The rules of the game keep changing. For example: Colorado's largest utility - expects to shut off power to 72,000 homes; it’s part of a nationwide trend: Shutoffs are up thirty percent in Chicago, more than fifty percent in Detroit. A record number have fallen behind on their utility bills.

“MATT WELCH CONSERVATIVE: People forget this, but in 1999 and 2000, when McCain was running against George Bush, he was the neoconservative candidate. You know, four years before the doctrine of preemptive war ever even occurred to Bush.”

ask yourself who is the real McCain and is he the one whho will really help us? I don't think so.

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