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Has Sarah Palin Been Picked as the Titular Head of the Coming Police State?

By Naomi Wolf, Huffington Post. Posted September 24, 2008.


Palin will help to establish a true and irreversible 'fear society' in this once free once proud nation.
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Please understand what you are looking at when you look at Sarah "Evita" Palin. You are looking at the designated muse of the coming American police state.

You have to understand how things work in a closing society in order to understand "Palin Power." A gang or cabal seizes power, usually with an affable, weak figurehead at the fore. Then they will hold elections -- but they will make sure that the election will be corrupted and that the next affable, weak figurehead is entirely in their control. Remember, Russia has Presidents; Russia holds elections. Dictators and gangs of thugs all over the world hold elections. It means nothing. When a cabal has seized power you can have elections and even presidents, but you don't have freedom.

I realized early on with horror what I was seeing in Governor Palin: the continuation of the Rove-Cheney cabal, but this time without restraints. I heard her echo Bush 2000 soundbites ("the heart of America is on display") and realized Bush's speechwriters were writing her -- not McCain's -- speeches. I heard her tell George Bush's lies -- not McCain's -- to the American people, linking 9/11 to Iraq. I heard her make fun of Barack Obama for wanting to prevent the torture of prisoners -- this is Rove-Cheney's enthusiastic S and M, not McCain's, who, though he shamefully colluded in the 2006 Military Tribunals Act, is also a former prisoner of war and wrote an eloquent Newsweek piece in 2005 opposing torture. I saw that she was even styled by the same skillful stylist (neutral lipstick, matte makeup, dark colors) who turned Katharine Harris from a mall rat into a stateswoman and who styles all the women in the Bush orbit -- but who does not bother to style Cindy McCain.

Then I saw and heard more. Palin is embracing lawlessness in defying Alaskan Legislature subpoenas -- this is what Rove-Cheney, and not McCain, believe in doing. She uses mafia tactics against critics, like the police commissioner who was railroaded for opposing handguns in Alaskan battered women's shelters -- Rove's style, not McCain's. I realized what I was seeing.

Reports confirmed my suspicions: Palin, not McCain, is the FrankenBarbie of the Rove-Cheney cabal. The strategy became clear. Time magazine reported that Rove is "dialed in" to the McCain campaign. Rove's protege Steve Schmidt is now campaign manager. And Politico reported that Rove was heavily involved in McCain's vice presidential selection. Finally a new report shows that there are dozens of Bush and Rove operatives surrounding Sarah Palin and orchestrating her every move.

What's the plan? It is this. McCain doesn't matter. Reputable dermatologists are discussing the fact that in simply actuarial terms, John McCain has a virulent and life-threatening form of skin cancer. It is the elephant in the room, but we must discuss the health of the candidates: doctors put survival rates for someone his age at two to four years. I believe the Rove-Cheney cabal is using Sarah Palin as a stalking horse, an Evita figure, to put a popular, populist face on the coming police state and be the talk show hostess for the end of elections as we know them. If McCain-Palin get in, this will be the last true American election. She will be working for Halliburton, KBR, Rove and Cheney into the foreseeable future -- for a decade perhaps -- a puppet "president" for the same people who have plundered our treasure, are now holding the US economy hostage and who murdered four thousand brave young men and women in a way of choice and lies.

How, you may ask, can I assert this? How can I argue, as I now do, that there is actually a war being ramped up against US citizens and our democracy and that Sarah Palin is the figurehead and muse for that war?

Look at the RNC. This is supposed to be McCain's America. But you see the unmistakable theatre of Rove's S and M imagery -- and you see stages eight, nine and ten of the steps to a dictatorship as I outlined them in The End of America. Preemptive arrest? Abusive arrest? "Newly released footage, which was buried to avoid confiscation, shows riot cops arresting and abusing a giant group of people for nothing."

Journalists were arrested -- for reporting. Amy Goodman and ABC producers were arrested. Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake and others were forced to lie face down as armed agents tied their hands behind their backs. The riot police wore the black S&M gear of the Rovian fantasy life and carried the four foot batons cops carry in North Korea. All this is not John McCain's imagery or strategy: it is Karl Rove's.


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Naomi Wolf is the author of 'The End of America: A Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot' (Chelsea Green, 2007).

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The truth about Sarah Palin
Posted by: pa0lagar1bay on Sep 24, 2008 12:20 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
There is a huge amount of publicity about Sarah Palin and she’s definitely no typical woman. Yet there is a lot about her that people don’t know about.
www.dailysource.org
has a lot of evidence ...
the most comprehensive page of information on Sarah Palin on the Internet ... including videos of her saying the Iraq war is a "task from God," stating her proposed $30 billion pipeline is the “will of God,” and that a month ago that she doesn’t know what the vice-president does. Also her recently praising the biggest pork barrel spender in Congress -

http://dailysource.org/palin

It has in-depth research, audio clips, videos, excerpts, and links to hundreds of articles, including many from newspapers and TV stations in Alaska. It has rare footage you won’t find anywhere else, including her telling the ‘08 convention of the Alaskan Independence Party, whose aim is to give Alaska a vote on seceding from the U.S., to “keep up the good work.” The level of research is unparalleled.

The site’s editors and volunteers include an Emmy-award winning CNN reporter, the former operating editor of the Monitor’s web site, the former head of NPRs News Blog and the Executive Director of the Online News Association -

http://dailysource.org/about/team

Americans have the right to know more about anyone who might be a heartbeat away from being president.

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I only have one question
Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Sep 24, 2008 12:25 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Where is the best place to live in Canada?

I was thinking Victoria, BC. What do you guys think?

John McCain--OLD ideas, OLD solutions, OLD lobby connections

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Ray Bradbury She's Not
Posted by: edgar1 on Sep 24, 2008 1:42 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
There is no hard evidence that Palin(of all people) is plotting a police state, or is the heart of a conspiracy by Rove, who now is making big bucks at Fox. Naomi Wolf is really a bad science fiction writer. Or a mole for the Republicans.

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GIDGET GOES TO BERLIN
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 24, 2008 1:53 AM   
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Open up your window. Look out on the econmomic carnage of your once-great nation. Although there are more than a few Democrats at whose door the blame may be placed, remember this one undeniable fact when you cast your vote on Election Day: it was the Republicans that did this to you.

Did you see Sarah Palin at the U.N. yesterday? I was once shown on CNN shaking hands with Gerry Adams. That did not make me any more verse in foreigh policy than I already was.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
Bush=Truman? Have Another Sip!

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» Palin makes me feel ill! Posted by: donl51
Naomi Wolf you are wrong
Posted by: scienceisnotconsensus on Sep 24, 2008 1:58 AM   
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Naomi Wolf you are wrong. You are right in thinking Rove is behind this as others have said he is running McCain's campaign. You are wrong in thinking this is being done to get McCain-Palin elected. It's not. Think. Do you really believe if you think about it that such obvious measures such as those taken so far done in the open could possibly be the result of anyone even even remotely competent and committed to achieving their goal of getting McCain-Palin elected? It's being done to get Obama elected by a landslide and don't think that's a good thing. Without as landslide Obama cannot have a mandate. And then the fascism starts. The fascism of Zbigniew Brzezinski with the mandate to push through all the policies of a new tyrannical state and his plans to "divide and conquer" Russia and China, the only two superpowers that canstand in the way of reshaping the middle east and it's energy resources for the Anglo-American-Isreali empire.

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Pathocracy Now
Posted by: starsailor on Sep 24, 2008 2:18 AM   
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Naomi is spot on with her observations. I see this happening too.

I've been helped by understanding Political Ponerology. This is a branch of psychology that brings together biology, sociology and politics to reveal the scientific method behind the madness. Ponerology was born out of the ashes of WWII and the subsequent totalitarian experience of the USSR.

There are basic facts that all people of conscience need to grasp, fast. 6% of any given population are born genetic psychopaths. Bu then why do some fall under their spell and other not? The vast majority of 'paths remain undetected as they manipulate and plunder their way through human relationships consuming our emotional and financial energy. In this sense, they are 'successful'. They insinuate themselves into networks throughout society by sharp observance of our behaviour and mimick/act to get what they want: power over others - in fact, the pinnacle of achievement for a psychopath is TOTAL AND RUTHLESS DOMINANCE OVER 'THE OTHER'.

Political Ponerology expands this dynamic out onto the societal scale to explain that periodically a concentration of psychopaths (thanks to negative selection - think 'Old Boys' Network' taken to its extreme) coalesces 'at the top' to form a 'Pathocracy' wherein 100% of key positions of a state are run by people who have a permanent and incurable deficit in their worldview.

The USA is a whisker away from this becoming an open reality. Things will turn nasty. Americans must realise that their leaders are not really at war with an maginary 'Al-Qaeda': they are at war against Americans. The unwinnable wars are a diabolical strategy to kill off strong males that might get in the way of the 'Paths' conquests at home.

How whave they done it? Through religion. Chris Hedges and Katherine Yurica have done great work to chronicle the rise of 'Dominionism'. Palin comes out of 25 plus years of programming that told her that she must be one of the 'Regents of God' who would take control of the planet at the end of times, in order to 'keep everything on ice' for Jesus, who is apparently on his way. Check out the Council on National Policy, the true power centre behind the GOP, from where Fundamentalist Christian ideologies like Dominionism were wedded to the financial elite through Pat Robertson and Ted Haggard. These men have long railed against the non-believers, warning that God would punish the sinning majority - now their dream is real.

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Big bad wolf
Posted by: Karl.Ben on Sep 24, 2008 2:43 AM   
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Like the republicans do to the democrats, the dems do to the repubs.. The sound bites are out of context and totally misleading as is this article.

Granted Huffington isn't know for accurate or even unbiased reporting, but to suggest or compare Palin with a dictator is like saying Obama hangs out with criminals...

Why aren't we saying the same thing about Obama - like he's delivering America into the hands of the Muslims - about as true as Huffington's painting Palin as this great monster.

So how can Palin go from just a "weak women" who knows nothing as the left likes to portray her to this powerful rightwing icon bent on taking over the country.

Is America really afraid of a women in real power who can draw "Obama sized" crowds. Now imagine if the media loved her without ever asking her questions - Obama like interviews!

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World outside America
Posted by: jolanda on Sep 24, 2008 3:15 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
As an Australian I was absolutely horrified that someone like Sarah Palin could even be considered suitable as a candidate for Vice President. Even if half of what Naomi says is true, then if elected the McCain/Palin combo will drag America into the dark ages and us(Australia)with it. I don't know if anyone has noticed the similarity between Rebublicans and the Nazi party before ww2. Listening to Palin is very much like listening to one of Hitlers rants.
You guys have got to stop this nightmare!!

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Get a grip
Posted by: Derek Maddox on Sep 24, 2008 3:23 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wow. Just, wow.

It's been a while since I've read such a perfect example of taking information out of context and spinning it into a paranoid rant. I'm sure when Naomi sobers up, she'll be embarassed by the "they're out to get me" tone of this ridiculous article. She manages to drag out every bogey-man of the loony left and concoct a scenario in which every one of them is out to get her, personally.

No one was arrested for "reporting" at the RNC. Amy Goodman and her crew were arrested for trespassing. If they'd stayed on the proper side of the fence, they could have reported all they wanted. If they wanted to be inside the building with the respectable journalists, they could have applied for credentials.

As for the black-clad anarchists, a quick scan of left-wing web sites (such as Portland Indymedia) will find post after post from these lunatics proudly proclaiming how they broke windows and otherwise caused havoc in Wisconsin. I'm sure there were some police infiltrators and informers in the crowd. It would be irresponsible of the police force to not do that. But the idea that police officers linked arms and marched down the streets of their own city breaking windows and vandalizing cars is a ridiculous notion.

As is the notion that Karl Rove personally tells the folks at YouTube (owned by Google, not known to be sympathetic to right wing political causes) what they can and cannot show. Gimme a break.

And the Post Office losing mail? Whoever heard of such a thing. Good God, Naomi! I consider it a minor miracle when my water bill shows up on time each month. And in many neighborhoods around the country, even nice suburban neighborhoods, mailboxes are regularly raided and mail opened and checks stolen. Relax, you're not being picked on by Dick Cheney. You might be an easy mark for your local scam artists, but Dick and Karl have nothing to do with it.

Naomi Wolf wants to be taken seriously as a credible journalist and writer. It is this kind of paranoid screed that stands as a barrier to that credibility, revealing her to be just another lunatic on the fringe.

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Then WHY is an ACTIVE DUTY UNIT being DEPLOYED for .....
Posted by: Turiye on Sep 24, 2008 4:10 AM   
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DOMESTIC OPERATIONS????

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Were the arrests and other police violence at the RNC a sign of things to come? Will we see another Kent State massacre?

From Democracy Now today (9/22/08)
Army Unit to Deploy in October for Domestic Operations
Beginning in October, the Army plans to station an active unit inside the United States for the first time to serve as an on-call federal response in times of emergency. The 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent thirty-five of the last sixty months in Iraq, but now the unit is training for domestic operations. The unit will soon be under the day-to-day control of US Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command. The Army Times reports this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to Northern Command. The paper says the Army unit may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control. The soldiers are learning to use so-called nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals and crowds.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now WHAT do you all have to say? Whom will go first? Since when does a Governor meet with Heads of State at the U.N.?

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» RE: Or when something happens to Obama? Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
» RE: Or when something happens to Obama? Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
» watching TV? Posted by: amadax
The Fake Pass
Posted by: kmcd on Sep 24, 2008 4:13 AM   
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We are in the middle of a fake pass -- the Cheney forces never wanted McCAin -- they wanted Palin in from the start --

Don't you folks get it? These people have systematically been decimating our Constitution for the last 8 years. They DO NOT believe in our democracy -- they want a dictatorship.

Remember Mussolini was elected in a democracy.

This shit is happening.

Do whatever you can to get Obama elected -- for our children's sake if not for your own.

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I sense a New American Civil War.
Posted by: Blacktiger on Sep 24, 2008 4:23 AM   
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The way things are coming about I can see it happening. You will be told to stay within your home from 9 PM to 6 AM then go to work like a good little slave sheeple, pay your "ILLEGAL" taxes to the MAN, and swallow your anger or you will truncheoned down, BANG BANG on your head. How dare you have a thought that you are free!!! You work, you pay your taxes or go to jail HAH!! have you ever been had! Yet you stand there in that arrogant stance and think, Oh ya I'm American, I'm free!!!!SURE YOU ARE!!

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» I'm free.... (?) Posted by: amadax
The trolls are out in force today
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Sep 24, 2008 4:33 AM   
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The truth must really be getting under their skin.

Trolls: Palin is a tool, like Bush. Dumb as a rock, but easily manipulated. And a power-hungry narcissist. This is an animal-hating religious fundie completely out of touch with mainstream America who operates in secrecy, uses yahoo to conduct state business, surrounds herself with loyalists (so as to keep her from hearing constructive criticism - just like Bush) and uses her office to settle personal vendettas.

Derek Maddox did you even READ Wolf's post? Having money disappear from her bank accounts, having her email and regular mail tampered with is not all in her head. She's not loony. But because you are too afraid to handle the truth, you attack the messenger-victim that it's all in her head.

Boy does Rove love people like you. Keep your eyes closed while YOU allow them to destroy the Constitution.

It was proven in NY and Seattle in court, that agent provocateurs disguised themselves as anarchists and attacked police. Then the police made a show arrest of it. If you bothered to educate your sorry-ass selves, you would have known this.

The right-wing has two factions: the super-rich and the lowest common denominator. The LCD are those who do nothing while a corrupt government erodes everything their country stands for. Those who side with the shredding of the Constitution. Authority sycophants with rocks for brains and a desperate desire to remain ignorant.

The ones who stood by while Hitler slaughtered the Jews. That's who you are.

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wow!
Posted by: Philor on Sep 24, 2008 4:50 AM   
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Well, it looks like Wolf has rallied the rank of conspiracy theorists.

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Cabal? You Wanna Talk CABAL?
Posted by: johnjmccarthy on Sep 24, 2008 5:16 AM   
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http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/

None of the candidates stands a chance. George and the Boys have seen to that with the flleecing of what we thought was our financial wellbeing.

Just read the book and get a grasp.

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I wonder if they'll wait for McCain to expire of natural causes
Posted by: Jasonix on Sep 24, 2008 5:49 AM   
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It was obvious from the start that Palin is the true presidential candidate. People who say "Don't bother about Palin, talk about McCain" are missing the boat. The Radical Right, in both its oil company and psycho-Religious incarnations, has no future if they don't seize absolute power right now. Everybody knows now that we've passed the oil peak and we need alternatives immediately (despite some truly absurd oil company commercials I've seen on TV lately), and even evangelical Christians are abandoning the Religious Right as a monumental failure and thinking more about things like climate change and poverty. The only hope for the Right is to scrape together its disintegrating base for one last charge, aided by election fraud and a compliant media, and then end whatever pretense of democracy is left in our system.

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Just Watch The News
Posted by: loxias on Sep 24, 2008 5:55 AM   
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I was watching local news for all of 2 minutes last night, really by accident, and as they were going to commercial, the anchors, one male one female, mentioned the polls.
(I'm not making this up, was WRAL I think)

Anchor One (male), "Well, it looks like in today's polling Obama has taken a lead over McCain."
Anchor Two (female), (with a grin and a wink) "Well you never know, something could happen next month that could turn it all around."

It was totally said with the knowing expectation that there was a surprise coming. Which I doubt had any basis in reality. Obviously they aren't going to know anything. Regardless, it was chilling. The implication was, relax, we're in control, and if you'll just let things work themselves out, we'll take care of you.
Those people scare me. Actually, a lot of things do these days.

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» RE: Just Watch The News Posted by: machvvv
Palin, the macho-pandering women, and the abandoned softball dads. Thank you Martianbachelor.
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 24, 2008 5:57 AM   
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I came across a post on another site posted by Martianbachelor about women who actually want their men to be warmongers even when there is a soft side to these young men who want to say no. Now, I don't agree with him on everything against women but I have come across some women who are more macho-egotistical than even men and I came across this post that he wrote two years ago, long before Palin came up obviously. This got me to remember that there are so men who are just as moderate and liberal as many women in this world and yet both parties abandon these fair minded men. It's bad enough that not only can women wear everything men can wear and play all their sports and their own but men are restricted in terms of fashion and sports unless they want to be persecuted. Below is a description of the pro-macho women that pretty much explains why Palin "identifies" with them:

08-27-2006 08:04 AM

Re: The real reason
MartianBachelor

PANDORASBOX123 wrote:
Unfortunately the reason why we have so many problems in the world today is due to men trying to control and concur. We see this in the Middle East…

Hey, let’s perpetuate some stereotypes about the peaceful, loving, nurturing female and the violent, bestial male. Naturally I’m not buying it — plenty of women voted for Bush, and plenty of men didn’t vote for him. Probably the strongest and clearest anti-war voice in 2004 was Ralph Nader, and hardly anyone male or female voted for him. Go figure. [For the record, both my sisters voted for Bush, while my brother and I being in hopelessly red states voted for Ralph...]

“Contrary to many myths about man’s natural proclivity to fight wars, most … men do not make good soldiers. Most men have to be inspired to fight; if that fails, they have to be forced at gunpoint by their commanding officers. Numerous studies have shown that the average soldier is extremely timorous in battlefield situations and that he ‘regresses’ and reacts ‘passively’ under enemy fire. Obviously, as it often includes military obligation, the male role often requires certain kinds of discipline or indoctrination to put reluctant youths in the proper frame of mind.” - David Gilmore

There’s something else you’re missing. Women love these knuckledragging warmongers. I happen to live near an Army base. They’re the grunts and cannon-fodder — yes, there’s still a cavalry in the Army — the lowest of the expendable lower-class and working-class males. Since unlimited immigration has knocked the hell out of wages for unskilled labor, they don’t have a lot of good career choices. Quite a few haven’t made it back from Iraq. And you know what? Everyone of them has a wife. I see the stories on the local news as they trickle in. Yes, it may come as a shock but women actually want these Neanderthals, and what’s worse — they breed with them like mad! The same could be said for other thuggish and gang-leader types.

There are also quite well documented instances during WWII of women publicly shaming men who wouldn’t fight, goading them to own up to their male responsibilities to fight.

I’d also note that it was feminists who were raising a big stink before 9/11 about the Taliban in Afghanistan and what they did to women, effectively egging on the warrior types in this country to be “real men” and do something about it.

The more things don’t change the more they stay the same.

Maybe wars end when it’s the anti-war activists and conscientious objectors who attract the hot babe groupies. But I’m not holding my breath because I know that the average woman is just about as unevolved as the average man is. And when I go to the malls I can’t help but think we wouldn†?t be having all these resource wars if women would just stop buying so much STUFF.

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» RE: Maxpayne, nightgaunt Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
planning a vacation in Canada?
Posted by: twoten on Sep 24, 2008 6:49 AM   
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In 1933 physicist Leo Szilard was in his living room reading the newspaper. "Holy crap!" he said to himself. He jumped up and packed a suitcase and headed down to the train station. The station was practically empty, as it usually was for that time of day. He boarded a train for France and from there travelled to England.

Twenty four hours later, hundreds of Jews were at the same train station trying to escape the Nazis. But dozens of Nazi soldiers were there and no-one was allowed to leave. Szilard got out because he was smart enough and agile enough to see what was coming and to leave everything behind.

November is a beautiful month to come and visit Canada! Harvest fairs, colored leaves, it's very nice up here. Call your travel agent today!

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» RE: planning a vacation in Canada? Posted by: QuestionAuthority
TRAITOR & HERETIC in Lipstick
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 24, 2008 6:54 AM   
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So 'First Dude' is a successionist Ah?Strike One
So You are willing to destroy our national natural treasure to give Big Oil some more Profits..Strike Two
So you are willing to endanger not only our lives ,but the lives of future generations by increasing Global warming caused by Fossil Fuels..Strike Three
Not only a Natioanl Traitor, but A traitor to Humantiy.. Thus God who left us the stewards of this planet. To not only care for it now but to assures it's future for our descendants= Strike One
You feel pre-emptively striking Iran is a reasonable foreign policy.. which will result in innocent Iranians being Killed..Strike Two
You adhere to the Doctrine of End of Days/Armegeddon. You feel it is your duty to be a 'Warrior for God' and get the ball Rolling for The Almighty (ie Pre-emptively strike Iran). You Beleive you are the 'anointed 'Generation for the 'Rapture' and that Alaska will be the 'Refuge'. Since when does any 'Almioghty require the help of ANY mere Mortal..You are exceeding your 'Pay Scale' in your needless instigation of War and your Self appointed right to pass judgement or time tables....Strike Three

She and McCain are Traitors to this country, the World and God! 'God & Country' Which Ones? you both seem to be serving something Other than US or the One and Only True God!
"Could it be Satan?"

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McCain-Palin-Obama-Biden -
Posted by: PakiBoy on Sep 24, 2008 6:56 AM   
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whoeever wins Establishment wins!

So continue to bicker over non-issues.

Biden's credentials:
1. Engineered the 'War on Drugs Act' fraud
2. Engineered the Bankruptcy 'Reform' Act couple of years ago
3. Calls himself a 'Zionist' - works for AIPAC, like most American politicians.

McCain:
1. Earned his money the right way: he married rich.
2. Warcriminal: Bombed innocent civilians in Vietnam
3. Whore for the wall street b