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After College Ends, So Does Activism

By Adam Doster, In These Times. Posted July 19, 2007.


Selling out is a depressingly rational choice for many college graduates.

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Jaime Nelson could make anyone feel lazy. Over the past four years, Nelson, an undergraduate activist at the University of Michigan, has led writing workshops with Michigan's incarcerated, organized voter registration drives to battle the anti-affirmative action ballot initiative in 2006, and united local immigrant rights and labor organizations through the Restaurant Workplace Project, a coalition that sought to expose the dangerous working conditions faced by undocumented employees of Ann Arbor's dining establishments.

She did this on top of a work schedule -- divorced from her political work -- that would make Horatio Alger squirm. As a supervisor at the university library, Nelson checked out books five nights a week until 2 a.m. Two summers ago, she took a job as one of only two women on a road-paving crew in her native Kalamazoo. When she worked as a full-time unpaid intern for the public defender's office in Washington D.C., she logged an additional 30 hours a week as a hotel attendant.

Why would anyone put herself through this? Nelson had to balance her conscience with her checkbook. Paying for college was her responsibility. "My parents just didn't have money and I didn't want to ask them for it," she says, "so everything that I had, I had to pay for basically by myself."

In April, she graduated with almost $30,000 in student loans. So she's keeping her job at the library at night while searching during the day for work in progressive politics, which she knows won't pay enough to cover both her cost of living and her current debt. "School debt is the best kind of debt to have," she says, "but it's still debt." Nelson is quick to point out that others have it much worse than her, but her story illustrates a growing trend among the recent crop of college graduates. Despite a job market that will treat the class of 2007 favorably, employment in progressive politics is a dicey enterprise for many left-leaning activists and thinkers. The value of jobs varies across industries and organizations, but few are economically sustainable or intellectually stimulating, which is a problem for students and progressive veterans alike. Political McJobs

That few entry level political jobs exist is part of the problem, as documented by Columbia University sociology professor Dana R. Fisher in her book, Activism, Inc. Fisher spent two years studying one of the country's largest canvassing companies, part of an exploitative industry that has employed millions of young Americans. In the late '90s, progressive organizations -- concerned with raising money and membership totals but conscious of their costs -- began outsourcing their organizing campaigns to centralized intermediary organizations. This model is efficient but problematic. "Outsourcing makes sense if you're just thinking about your bottom line," Fisher says. "The problem is that it doesn't make sense if you're trying to build lasting connections with future progressive leaders or with local people."

Under this canvassing system, young organizers become contingent labor, susceptible to low pay, long hours, no benefits and no training in the real skills necessary to succeed in building local power. In some ways, the model cultivates a culture of deprivation; young people are taught to think that sacrifice is a prerequisite for progressive change and thus they tolerate exploitation for the sake of the movement. And because most organizations outsource these jobs, participating in this crooked system is one of the few avenues for paid work. "One could question," says Fisher, "whether Saul Alinsky, Ralph Nader or Cesar Chavez would have become successful at leading different aspects of the progressive movement if they came up through the model we have today."

Budgetary concerns of progressive organizations also contribute to underinvestment in youth. Take aspiring journalists. The few media outlets in which writers can publish thoughtful and progressively opinionated articles work on shoestring budgets. This means they can't afford to hire experienced staff writers, much less young people committed to political journalism. Left-of-center think tanks face similar challenges. Institutions like the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities and the Center for American Progress have a handful of low-paid internships -- both of which pay less than $10 an hour -- but few entry-level job opportunities with a salary and benefits. The Progressive Policy Institute and the Brookings Institution don't even provide internship stipends, a major concern for young people transplanted to the cities these organizations call home (Washington D.C. and New York City) that are among the world's most expensive places to live. These cost inhibitions significantly limit the scope of their applicant pool.


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Oh there active all right!
Posted by: Temporary on Jul 19, 2007 1:29 AM   
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About there own SALARY!

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» RE: Oh there active all right! Posted by: hellofriends
Ah the Elitist World
Posted by: edith on Jul 19, 2007 4:07 AM   
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That's right. The typical 22 or 23 yr old is just brimming with desire to save the world and wants to work for a green or peace organization. And they can't because the American people choose to invest their money in support for their own families, the stock market, vacations, or even charities like the American Cancer Society or (God forbid) a church!

Some, no make that many, young people of 22 have their own families to support-young children. Definitely not cool. If they really cared about civil rights or the environment they would have had an abortion or refrained from sex altogether.

If the majority could only do what they OUGHT to do! Damn democracy-interferes every time with the Movement.

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» Party, beer and a good old protest! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Party, beer and a good old protest! Posted by: sterlingdave54
» RE: Party, beer and a good old protest! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Party, beer and a good old protest! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Party, beer and a good old protest! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Party, beer and a good old protest! Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» Alternets Rules........ Posted by: Conservasaurus
» No Free Lunch-So Sorry. Posted by: edith
» RE: Party, beer and a good old protest! Posted by: ChrisSmith0077
» Ah, Edith . . . Posted by: hagwind
not only
Posted by: dannrusso on Jul 19, 2007 4:12 AM   
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do college kids get the shaft with their student loans but they are just cattle-run right into what most people call the "reality" of work, bills and stress and our greatest resource, youthful exuberance, is thrown by the wayside until people are regurgitated into the status quo of the working zombies

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In the UK
Posted by: Cruella on Jul 19, 2007 4:13 AM   
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We used to have proper student grants. Now these have been replaced with student loans. I don't have the numbers on the impact that has had on graduates entering NGO/charity work but it's got to have had an impact. Of course instead there's a risk people get swept up into spending 6 hours a day doing time-filling stuff like watching pointless sports matches.

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» You pay, you play Posted by: Bobsays
» Your turn Bobsays to... Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» RE: Your turn Bobsays to... Posted by: hellofriends
Typical American college student right here...
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jul 19, 2007 6:47 AM   
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What have YOU done to free Tibet lately?

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» Tibet World Posted by: edith
» RE: Communist, like Mao... Posted by: LeftCoastProgressive
» Revisionists R Us Posted by: hagwind
» RE: Tibet World Posted by: Iaela
» Keep up the good work and all... Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» The ONION article was hilarious Posted by: veggiegrrrl
Welcome to the corporate (fascist) world of wage-slavery until death.
Posted by: jcrw on Jul 19, 2007 7:09 AM   
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My 42 year old daughter, single mom with 2 kids, is forever paying off her student loan.The loan notes are often sold to other companies when payments get behind, with penalties and interest the only thing actually paid off. Paid the debt off actually more than once, but still owes the full amount of principal!! A magnificent racket.

The assumption that the U.S. college graduate automatically earns great incomes forever, become part of the upper middle class in five years, who always has "good prospects", is the happy-face mythology that is crashing in the U.S. Corporate capitalism is now importing well trained college graduates from India, etc. for about one third to one half the rate of U.S. graduates.

The student-loan racket should be taken out of the hands of the gang of banks and become a nationalized government run affair. Existing debts should be phased out after so many years. It is a national interest that as many people as possible be educated. Especially into professions desperately needed (teaching, health care,) and now new skills and sciences essential for human survival. Student Loans should be forgiven after working in such National Priorities professions and jobs.

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» oops, I meant GRADS... Posted by: veggiegrrrl
Even Alternet.....
Posted by: urrican on Jul 19, 2007 7:31 AM   
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Look at the headline: After College Ends, So Does Activism

Look at the tagline: Selling out is a depressingly rational choice for many college graduates.

Why do the headline and tagline focus on the failure of college graduates to continue activism in their worklife rather than focus on the failure of the Left to create jobs with sustainable wages?

(Is this perhaps the same mindset that talks about battered women instead of battering men?)

I asked a friend of mine (with a very high-level government position) why the right was so much more committed to creating reasonable-paying jobs working toward their goals.

His answer? Because wealthy Republicans stand to gain enormously if their agenda is carried out successfully, whereas wealthy Democrats stand to lose if egalitarian beliefs become standard. So, when it comes time to put their own money into bringing about the vision, or to create positions that could be held by enthusiastic and successful young organizers, wealthy Democrats somehow just can't seem to do it.

I worked in the anti-death penalty movement in the mid-90s. Wealthy supporters loved to give money to Sister Helen Prejean because they knew not a penny of it would go to tawdry things like salary and health insurance. People who believed the death penalty was wrong and should be abolished actually said to me: If you need a salary, you shouldn't be doing this kind of work. Others, including people on my own Board of Directors, told me I should get a real job, and then volunteer to fulfill my needs to effect change. These were the same people who often left me to carry out their committee commitments at the last minute, because their job, or their family, or their vacation, or (fill-in-the-blank), demanded more of them than they had previously expected.

Who benefits when progressive positions pay so little that only rich kids or bored wealthy wives can afford to take them? In the case of programs working with at-risk kids, for example, when the job is 20 hours a week with no benefits, and the staff people are always tired because they have to have other paid employment, or because they have all these other commitments related to their status, who benefits is the folks who sell expensive tennis shoes and clothes, soda, candy, chips, cigarettes, booze, drugs, violent-lyric music, and the other temptations thrown at children and young adults who don't have a solid voice in their life calling them to reject these things over more lasting investments like books and nutritious food.

Until wealthy and influential people on the Left stop seeing peace and justice as a hobby and actually start creating and funding real jobs with benefits working for change, we're silly to expect much improvement.

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» RE: Even Alternet..... Posted by: hagwind
» A Disconnect Posted by: pdxstudent
» RE: A Disconnect Posted by: sterlingdave54
» Well, whaddya know! Posted by: hagwind
some thoughts
Posted by: hellofriends on Jul 19, 2007 7:50 AM   
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great job with the article. my gf, a recent college grad, has freelanced for In These Times and other progressive magazines. she's been paid almost nothing for thousands of hours of hard work. however, the hard work in itself is enormously satisfying and important, and she's been able to do it all after our tedious 9-5 job. i can see why most people describe the alternative journalism profession as dire, and i can definitely see how much more fulfilling and easier it would be to work full-time for a progressive publication, but it's still possible to do this kind of work in addition to just doing something else to make some money. artists have been doing it for centuries, after all, and art goes on. your article itself is a testament to this.

one more thing: collected insects is a "hobby," stopping the war in iraq is not. i see your point, but this word belittles volunteer activism to the point of being insulting.

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» RE: some thoughts Posted by: hellofriends
» RE: If you work you should be paid. Posted by: hellofriends
» RE: If you work you should be paid. Posted by: hellofriends
who benefits?
Posted by: juanpecan81 on Jul 19, 2007 7:52 AM   
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"what a viscious format/the system sets parameters for livin/by usin tunnel vision funneled to the money system." - mr. lif "new man theme"


lets not forget that the student loan bank are FOR PROFIT companies! i think it everytime i see a goddamn salliemae envelope in my mailbox. id go piss on the building but im sure its in an office park behind tall iron fences. they have to hide behind their fences and gates b.c when people figure out their scam they get PISSED. wait till they start getting hungry...

its hard to resist, let alone change, a system you're already indentured to.

"Its not hard to be confused
when you find out youve been used
as a sacrifice for other people's gain.
And no matter what they say
its the same thing everyday
and noone seems concerned about your pain."
- lauryn hill "little boys"

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We will get the movement we pay for...
Posted by: ggg on Jul 19, 2007 7:57 AM   
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It's not just the young college grads. There are hundreds of highly skilled, professional level, veteran organizers with advanced degrees from prestigious universities who are having to stop - not because they are 'selling out' - but because they simply can't make ends meet. The sacrifices these people are already making: living minimally, eating less, couch surfing, having no 'weekend' or 'free time', earning 10 cents for every dollar of labor...all in an effort to reduce costs....they would be a corporations wet-dream - and yet, you are telling me there are no investors? Bottom line: They are doing their part. The rest of 'The Movement' is not - and so, we are losing our best people. The left's elites are simply unwilling to fund their own grassroots. The left's power structure does not channel funds outwards to the base that helps them get elected. Meanwhile, we are underperforming despite the wind being at our backs on every issue, because in the end, we get the movement we are willing to pay for.

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another thing
Posted by: hellofriends on Jul 19, 2007 8:01 AM   
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alternet probably didn't even tell this kid that they re-published his article, and they certainly didn't pay him. not exactly encouraging and pretty grotesquely ironic...

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» In the eyes of the Law... Posted by: edith
» RE: In the eyes of the Law... Posted by: hellofriends
SOLUTIONS!!!
Posted by: ggg on Jul 19, 2007 8:23 AM   
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The left already has the necessary number of highly skilled, professional level, veteran organizers willing to put their labor and lives on the line. They are the ones shouldering much of the grassroots community organizing, and they are not only using their skills to draft petitions, testify at city council meetings, organize conferences and meetings, and build community power, but they are also the ones willing to put their own bodies on the front lines, and if necessary take a beating and 'fill the jails'. They are the ones willing to do the hard work, they simply need our help to keep doing it. Even if you do not identify yourself as an 'elite' with money to spare (who does? not even the very rich do) there are things you can do to help sustain the critical work of movement building.

SOLUTIONS:
1) Sponsor a direct action activist - pay for their airfare, gasfare, or art materials for a single action- in exchange for a personal, engaging reportback to your community. You can do this as an invidual, or organize a group of friends, or your church (etc.) to split the costs and make it easy.
2) Open your home - Rent is one of the biggest obstacles for high performance, low income organizers to do their work. Offer your house as a place for responsible, committed activists to stay for reduced rent - or for free - in return for their commitment to organize full time. (it makes for exciting dinner conversations!)
3) Direct funding - Bypass the big political machines and non-profits with professional staffs, DC offices, and huge overheads, and give donations directly to the myriad of amazing grassroots groups organizing within local communities, or who have courageously committed themselves to Direct Action of various kinds. Unlike the big organizations with massive internal budgets, these orgs spend nearly 100% of fundraising on supplies and events planning. While this does not fund activists themselves, you would be suprised that many of these critical local actions are usually self funded (by those already doing all the work, who have little money to spare) so paying for these costs not only increases the scale of the event dramatically, but it takes the burden off those at the front lines.

Let's help these people do what they do best - to the benefit of all of us!

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» What? No Comments? Posted by: Russ Wellen
» RE: SOLUTIONS!!! Posted by: urrican
Why The Need To Advocate Professional Activism?
Posted by: felixcommi on Jul 19, 2007 9:03 AM   
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If every ardent lefty like myself was a professional activist then certainly there would be no roads to drive on, energy to utilize, bread to eat, and water to drink out of massive infrastructure systems.

What we need to do is understand that activism should be strongest in the workplace if we want to transform society into a better more democratic place. Become an admin. assistant, plumber, nurse, retail worker, etc....become anything in the working world and fight tooth and nail for workplace democracy by organizing collectively with your sisters, brothers, and others.

There is no shame in going into the trenches of a capitalist workplace and trying to transform it from within, take it over and run it by the workers for the workers (eat that Abe Lincoln)....

When we tell our friends who and what we are, it rarely goes liek this...hi my name is Susan and I'm a pisces...it usually goes"hi my name is Susan and I am a teacher"...our jobs are most often the centre of our identities and they are the centre of human life...that is where we must fight whether it is in a progressive organization or McDonalds...

The only catch is we all have to join the struggle to make it work...otherwise when your friend fights back without an army of labour behind her there will be no struggle, she'll get fired and the chill of subservience will creep through your spine...and all we will see is capitulation to the rich and mandatorily ruthless (but nice in person) capitalist class...

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College grads sold out their freshman year.
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 19, 2007 10:22 AM   
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In June 1966, after nine and a half years of Air Force active duty including service as a SAC combat crewmember, I resigned my Regular commission and became a Vietnam War protestor, along with outraged college students by the hundreds of thousands.

Sadly to me four decades later, during the most dangerous war in American history created by the most dangerous U.S. president ever, college students appear more concerned about grade-point ratios than their less fortunate brethern being killed and wounded in Iraq.

Like Vietnam, Gulf War 2 is being fought mainly by kids from low-income families. So-called “volunteers,” they joined the military to escape poverty, only to lose their lives and limbs while sons of rich and middleclass Americans sit smugly at home watching the action on TV as less fortunate citizens their age are getting killed and wounded in Iraq, the whole time wishing to hell they’d never volunteered in the first place.

Democratic Congressman Charley Rangel, a decorated Korean War vet, wants the draft reinstated. I do too, if nothing more than to build the character in young Americans our nation so desperately needs. But mention forced induction to members of Congress and they throw up their hands in horror. God forbid their precious offspring having to endure boot camp much less combat.

And why should they serve? With 34 million Americans living in poverty under Bush economic policies favoring the wealthiest citizens plus 45 million families without medical insurance, there is plenty of GI cannon fodder to go around.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet and editor of the nonprofit investigative website, King-George.biz, which features 50 cartoons, photos and other Bushwhacking illustrations plus the only hardcopy proof of White House corruption ever found on the Internet.

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» What a great idea. Posted by: Ayla87
Economically Sustainable Progressive INDUSTRY
Posted by: axandrade on Jul 19, 2007 10:43 AM   
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What happens if conservatives activists succeed? They generate money for their backers (big business) in terms of govt contracts, tax breaks, trade laws, prevention of higher salaries, etc. Right wing activism is a profitable investment for its backers.

What happens if progressives succeed? Society in general benefits, the environment benefits, families would have healthcare and Iraqis wouldnt die as much. The problem is that none of these groups have enough money, nor the political awareness to support activism.

It's not a matter of leftists being cheap or poor, it's a matter of wise investing. George Soros does not expect to make a profit out of his contributions unlike conservative supporters.

Now I do see an alternative, perhaps put the emphasis on economically successful progressive businesses. Lend money to capitalize viable bookstores, restaurants, industry!, that have to prescribe to certain progressive guidelines 1. good benefits and a living wage 2. environmental conciousness and actions, etc. The additional costs would be offset by educating consumers to recognize a certificate of good practices and pay accordingly, and a smaller profit margin.

That would not necessarily be activism, but businesses like that are productive over the long run, and don't depend on begging for money interrupting family dinners. And could eventually fund activism itself.

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This board looks like an invasion form freepland
Posted by: hot karlrove on Jul 19, 2007 11:35 AM   
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Jeebus, here's a compilation of nifty BS comments form the wingnuttosphere posted here:

"You would think that considering 10,000+ college professors across America embrace Marxism/Communism"

"Tibetans were slaughtered and tortured under the sainted Mao Tse Tung, but since he was a leftist hero, it was reactionary to criticize the sainted Chinese Reds"

"There is however, for those few idealistic, unattached souls who want to do charity work for the Left, a pile of money available for leftwing causes."

"The fact is that the Left is cheap, not poor. "

"protecting open spaces from those liberals that would like to build condo's on them!
"

I'm still laughing!!!!

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Nothing new here - baby boomers led the way!
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 19, 2007 12:03 PM   
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(Note to hotkarlrove - Alternet draws more flies from the freepers than just about any site on the web. I'd guess a 25-50% freeper troll input to Alternet threads, especially with long-term posters such as edith)

It's worth reviewing what became of all those radical 60s-era anti-war protestors. Sure, a few stuck with it - but most happily transformed themselves from hippies to yuppies (easier to do if you were white, it's true, though I hear that a combination of hair straightening, skin bleaching and minor facial surgey results in a remarkable 'whiteface' facsimile).

Case in point is the "ultra-radical" Yippie founder, Jerry Rubin, who after getting a lot of media exposure as a prominent anti-war critic, then jumped into Wall Street business circles, where he became a 'successful entrepreneur' and invested in various 'alternative health care schemes'.

You know, it's easy to critique the pharmaceutical industry, but the so-called 'alternative health care' really isn't much better. They'll import cheap and pollution-laden herbs from China, use snake-oil approaches like promoting shark cartiledge as a cure for cancer, and just generally take advantage of sick people under the guise of 'hippie healthcare'. Their products are almost entirely unregulated, and just like the pharmaceutical industry, they spend far more on marketing than on research. In fact, they do almost NO research, but since they don't put their products through FDA kangaroo-court drug trials, they don't need to.

I for one am completely sick of and disgusted by aging baby boomers who constantly claim that 'younger generations don't have the activist spirit that we did'. No, younger generations look at you, by and large, as pathetic sellouts and hippie-crites. Here we are in another Vietnam War, and look who's managing it? The baby boomers, all grown up and absorbed into the system. What amazing hypocrisy!

Face it - you failed to change anything. The Vietnam war was doomed to failure in the long run, protests or not - thanks to the VC and the NVA and the general fact that people don't like to be invaded and occupied by foreign powers. Oil imports to the United States went up and up and up, and the entire renewable energy push of the post-oil shock era was shut down by Reagan and the oil corporations, with nary a word of protest from the yuppies who hopped on the Reagan greed train with ethusiasm.

What's going to happen to the aging baby boomers when they all reach retirement? Who's going to be paying for the Social Security payouts? Immigrant labor? Face it: your generation has screwed the pooch, bigtime. Well done.

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Cannot Compare Conservative and Progressive Organziations!
Posted by: felixcommi on Jul 19, 2007 12:14 PM   
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Progressive organizations do not engage in materially productive activities that generate wealth in our economy, at least not in the sense that corporations producing marketable products do.

Wealth (profits) in our society is derived from exploiting labour (whether nicely or not...its an objective reality of industrial relations) Thus, progressive organizations can offer great and absolutely necessary intellectual fodder, but they do not exist to produce wealth only to accept donated funds or receive money from the occasional t-shirts.

It is a constant struggle to stay afloat for most progressive organizations. Pro-Corporate Capitalist Conservative activist groups are actually capable of generating wealth because they work for; anti-worker, anti-environment, and anti-democracy trade deals; right to work (anti-union...see Democracy)legislation, anti-minimum wage efforts, etc....all things that eventually help their backers' bottom lines.

The struggles are different and you cannot compare the resources from those sympathetic to the left wing groups and right wing groups. Those who control half the worlds wealth could have a sock-hop in your local rec centre and not violate fire fegulations for over-crowding...there is a lot of money from very few people that can keep conservative groups afloat and it actually derives great benefits...

Whether it be labour, social, environmental, groups, etc. the struggle is always uphill and you rarely make enormous gains by winning favourable legislation, but rather small gains here and there and often just victories against clawbacks....

PS....Marx' Socialism is meant to be democratic and no groups have ever enacted a wide scale democratic socialist state....

But maybe i'm wrong...all you righty's seem to have a monopoly on Democracy. It's that simple concept of subservience by servant to master, where worker self-determination and collective-discretion in our daily affairs (i.e. the economy) is the grossest of all infractions ....

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The "Right" has PRIVATIZED the Left for decades !
Posted by: maxpayne on Jul 19, 2007 12:30 PM   
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Until the Left gets its act together and quits allowing the "Right" to FUCK with them, the Progressive movement(s) will continue to face undermining.

P.S.: I'd start off by firing Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, Rangel, Schumer, LIEberman, Nelson, etc ... from the Democratic Party. TOO MUCH betrayal there already.

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How can we save TIBET when we can't save the USA?
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jul 19, 2007 4:29 PM   
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We can all find time to improve our own communities.
Someone asked "What have you done lately for Tibet?"
And as much as I love and respect the Dalai Lama, Buddhism, etc... how can we save Tibet when there are 10,000 homeless people sleeping in piss and shit in the streets of San Francisco (or any other US city inflicted with mass poverty)....tens of thousands of children who can't read or don't have food or shoes without holes...or parents who keep them safe.
Tibet? Darfur?
YES, we are world citizens and YES, saving Tibet is sexy but we can't even get ***our own country*** out of a war... Citizens of our own country are starving, homeless, illiterate, etc....

How can we save TIBET when we can't save the USA?

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Stage of life
Posted by: Jeanne on Jul 19, 2007 4:38 PM   
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I think activism takes a back seat during the years that people are focused on marriage and child-rearing. While one might still pay attention to the process of politics, continue to vote, etc., in general you don't have time to act. This does change as children grow up, as working life draws down, and one can again afford the time to "do" something. It is a cycle. But, there should always be that segment of the population in the able-to-be-active stage of life. I think apathy (and ignorance) is a characteristic that is a stronger predictor of whether or not activism is maintained on any level, at any stage of life.

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» RE: Stage of life Posted by: opeluboy
» RE: Stage of life Posted by: SekhmetsatRa
THIS WEEK I PROMISE TO... (act locally and please add your promise)
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jul 19, 2007 8:38 PM   
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In the spirit of activism that is easily do-able and makes an immediate impact, this week I promise to...

take a bunch of winter clothes to the homeless shelter.

PLEASE CONTRIBUTE YOUR "TO DO" PROMISE...

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» for pdxstudent Posted by: veggiegrrrl
This is what student loan debt was intended to do!
Posted by: Reginleif on Jul 20, 2007 8:43 AM   
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A part of the thinking behind the Federal Student Loan program was that recent college graduates burdened with debt would have to integrate with mainstream society - get a job - go to work and stop their rabble-rousing. And its worked very well for a long time.

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Good analysis, bad perscription
Posted by: spencerh on Jul 22, 2007 5:10 PM   
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The problem disappears with socialized higher education for public institutions (private ones could stay just as they are). Remove the need to go into debt to get a college education, and you remove the problem.

Market failures, critical infrastructure, and things which are required to continue/advance society should be removed from the market; health care and education are two prominent examples.

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