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Sex and Relationships

Why I'd Rather Sleep with a Man over 50

By Katherine Anne Forsythe, American Sexuality Magazine. Posted September 15, 2008.


A 25-year-old with a firm six pack might be fun to look at and know how to satisfy himself. But what about satisfying you?
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Rippling, hard muscles. Firm six pack. Tight, round butt. He undresses you hurriedly. Your pulse is racing. You open your eyes to see a chiseled twenty-five-year-old face with the look of fiery hunger burning in his eyes. He wants you desperately. You want him madly. Your kisses are delicious and wet and deep and full. Your passion builds. Your breath comes faster. He pumps faster and faster, harder and harder ...

Sound good? Before you decide, consider this: The whole scene, start to finish, took twenty minutes, max. Fortunately, he is resilient. He has a brief recovery time-out, and you start all over again. This time, if you are lucky, he thinks about you and your orgasm. If you are in a typical situation, you may reach orgasm or you might feel pressure to fake it. Of course, he thinks you are loving it. And, why wouldn't he? You are telling him so, over and over, as we are taught to do as women.

In the end, though the experience was hot and passionate, the emphasis was on performance, not pleasing.

Not all experiences with every twenty-five-year-old man turn out this way, but this scenario is not uncommon. Truth be told, you probably had fun. It could have been a lot more pleasing, however, if you were somehow able to tell him to slow down, tease, play, and give you what you want. Chances of that happening are slim, though, especially in a moment of raw lust like this. Even in the most solid of relationships, sex is a very difficult subject to discuss. Consequently, couples don't talk, they perform. Most younger men do what they are hard wired to do (get erect and ejaculate) and women (literally) go along for the ride.

Let me tell you, it can be so much better. All it takes is an old guy!

Men over fifty, sixty, seventy-five, even ninety can be great lovers for three basic reasons. Primarily, they are not in a hurry. Secondly, they put their partner's needs first. Thirdly, they have learned that great sex doesn't have to include intercourse at all -- it's only one option.

Why, then, do we denounce older men as lovers? Men in the second half of life -- men over fifty -- have taken a heavy hit in our society. The pack of mistruths perpetuated by advertising is overwhelming. Let's look at what we've been told. Performance is all that matters to women. Men in midlife-plus have to struggle to get and maintain erections. Sustained intercourse is for the younger man; older men just can't stay hard enough to "do it" for any length of time. Men (and women) become asexual and lose interest in sex as they age.

Whoa! What man wants to chance not getting hard when the passion play begins? When the suggestion of failure looms, enter the heroes: Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra. These medications manage to engorge his penis with blood, and may (not always) save the day by helping him get that hefty, manly hard-on that gives him firm entry when called upon to perform. There can be trouble in paradise, however. These are not magic pills. When dependence on the drug -- rather than the natural libido -- becomes the source of confidence, performance anxiety is heightened, and now the seed of worry grows: What if I forget the pill the next time? The man begins to believe he has lost his ability to get hard without the drug. The diagnosis of ED (erectile dysfunction) in this country has reached epidemic proportions, thanks in part to performance anxiety induced by the suggestion of erectile failure.

All the red-flagged side effects of these drugs aside, let's stop the presses. The point is that an older man does not need the drug to have incredible sex. We're judging success in the sexual experience with the wrong set of criteria. The whole premise has taken a wrong turn. If Shakespeare's mantra was, "the play's the thing," we can say that our conventional thinking has adopted this mantra for men: "the erection's the thing." What if we changed that assertion? What if we took the emphasis off erections, and off intercourse, and off orgasm? What a concept! What if we decided that having sex was about pleasuring each other, taking time to explore bodies, building up passion intentionally, gradually, bit by bit, savoring each move? What if intercourse became just one option on a menu of lots of options? What if great sex happened over hours, not minutes? What if playing and teasing and opening up to new erotic ideas became part of your regular repertoire? What if you talked about what pleased you and what didn't, and your partner acted on it? What if you had a partner who was more interested in pleasuring you than in satisfying himself?

That's why sex is better with an older guy. Older men have a quiet confidence and patience that allows enjoyment of the entire sexual experience, yours and his. The mellowness of having been "around the block" with age -- and, most likely, a high number of partners -- permits him to let go of having to rush, and prove, and perform. Without those pressures, older men (and women) can see themselves as equal partners in a titillating, creative escapade. Creativity and curiosity allow variety in new erotic adventures: expanding play with oral sex, sampling new sex toys, play acting, even an evening of cuddling, fondling and holding, among others. Everything slows down or speeds up according the needs of the partners.


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Katherine Anne Forsythe, MSW, has been a sexuality educator with a specialty in intimacy and aging for over twenty years.

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Nothing new here
Posted by: zoomletta on Sep 15, 2008 4:52 AM   
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Ho hum, yet another groundbreaking report on the virtues of the older man. Haven't we been hearing about older men for like...forever?!

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» RE: Nothing new here Posted by: ava1984
» RE: Nothing new here Posted by: leTerrassier
» RE: Nothing new here Posted by: jnick
» RE: Nothing new here Posted by: meeneecat
Good press
Posted by: operdoc on Sep 15, 2008 5:02 AM   
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I think we need all the good press we can get, whether it's true or not.

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Hmmm....
Posted by: xenacat on Sep 15, 2008 5:20 AM   
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this article sounds like it was probably written by an old guy using a woman's name. ED is definitely a problem for a lot of older men, a lot of women really like lust, a younger man is not usually about whip it out and stick it in sex and he usually doesn't have six pack abs. That would nice... Nor has an older man always acquired the magical ability to be sensitive. Get real. This is pure piffle about the "advantages" of cuddling, etc. Same old BS gender stereotyping going on here and a real blind eye being turned as to why there are so many younger man/older women pairings going on. All this particular piece does is try to circumscribe what an individual woman may do with her sexuality.... T'ain't nobody's business but her own...

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» RE: Hmmm.... Posted by: leTerrassier
» RE: Hmmm.... Posted by: Libsrule
» Page 1, last paragraph Posted by: fork
Its the same for both sides...
Posted by: Farasien on Sep 15, 2008 5:34 AM   
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Women are the same here as the scenario in the beginning of the article- Young, model-esque women are usually nice to look at, but are horrible once they're in bed with you. I think this is because most of the shockingly beautiful women I've seen rely on their physical beauty alone and never take the time to develop their personalities or skills sans clothing. Some of the very best women I've ever been with were more average-looking and *gasp* older than I was at the time. While none of them looked like they could grace the covers of a magazine, they made up for it in their personalities and enthusiasm. I always thought it funny when I heard stories of men who got divorced from their model-looking wives or men complained about the lack of substance in their head-turning girlfriends. Similarly, it alwas struck me as laughable when women friends complained about their uber-jock or ultra-male boyfriends and their vapid, or worse yet, abusive natures. Beauty really is skin deep, and in my opinion, usually fake and serves as little more than a vaneer for a failed personal life or lack of anything of real, personal value. Packaging is just that, and if you judge a book by its (very well promoted and scientifically-designed for marketing) cover, you deserve what you get.

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Sick of justifying this
Posted by: Jaxsinn on Sep 15, 2008 5:44 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I cannot remember the last time I have seen a movie where the leading man is with a woman his age. (or even close to his age!) Look at Harrison Ford, Robert DiNero, Al Pacino to name a few. They get older and the ladies in the movies get younger. Now I am reading an AlterNet article about it? Really?

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Yeehaw, saggy old man skin
Posted by: chadster on Sep 15, 2008 6:02 AM   
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Thanks for generalizing about younger men, apparently we're all very fit and know nothing about women in bed.

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Really?
Posted by: taxidriver on Sep 15, 2008 6:08 AM   
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So you'd rather sleep with McCain rather than Obama?

Well, you go, girl!

P.S. Is your real name Sarah Palin?

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» RE: Really? Posted by: kelt65
» RE: I was trying ... Posted by: taxidriver
» RE: eally? Posted by: Dboy
speaking as an older woman
Posted by: aislinnluv on Sep 15, 2008 6:17 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
while i see and appreciate the hot younger men, i can't even consider getting involved with one. i've had offers - men even 20 years younger have propositioned me. but frankly, the age difference is a big deal for me. a younger man is likely to be shallower than his older counterpart, less interested in me as a person than in whatever fantasy he has concocted about older women. there is also a level of anxiety involved, that as i age and show it, he will abandon me for another woman who doesn't yet have the sagging flesh and hot flashes. older men at least have the possibility of understanding and being sympathetic to these things, and to be able to appreciate the beauty of an older woman that includes the changes. i'd rather have a mellower and longer relationship than a "suffragette city" wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am with a 25 year old stud. plus, i'd always have that nagging thought that he thinks he's "doing me a favor". please! i love sex but i also enjoy being able to discuss philosophies and current events, even history, some of which would have predated the birth of mr. studly. what a drag it is to try to talk about something with a younger man whose comments begin with, "i never heard of that."

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» RE: speaking as an older woman Posted by: gendershaman
» hilarious and completely true Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: hilarious and completely true Posted by: Blondinista
» RE: speaking as an older woman Posted by: Blondinista
» RE: speaking as an older woman Posted by: nochicagoboys
» RE: speaking as an older woman Posted by: Blondinista
Finally an Alternate article that is TOTALLY factual.
Posted by: VetAgainst McCain on Sep 15, 2008 6:58 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Not that my over-50 age shows bias.

Vet against McCain
To find out why, click on the links below:

Songbird McCain
(Popular anti-McCain Web site)
American View (My favorite anti-GOP Web site
Vietnam Veterans Against McCain
(self-explanatory)
Vote Vets
(supported by 100,000 by Iraq and Afghan war vets)

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Come on. There are plenty of older women who still deserve a chance to date older men !
Posted by: GrantBurkeVT on Sep 15, 2008 7:03 AM   
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Sure, they won't likely have children. However, what's wrong with a 45 year old single woman dating a 50 year old man? At least give them the opportunity to be happy together. Besides, being too far aged apart doesn't really help since there's bound to be more misunderstanding and lack of balance of tolerance between one too young and the other a bit too old !

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» Did you just wake up from a nap? Posted by: rancespergl
» RE: Did you just wake up from a nap? Posted by: nochicagoboys
» Sorry, NCB, I couldn't resist Posted by: rancespergl
» RE: Sorry, NCB, I couldn't resist Posted by: nochicagoboys
Looking for love
Posted by: lynned2002 on Sep 15, 2008 7:04 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Can you tell me where to find a man over 50 that isn't looking for a woman under 40? At 50 I suddenly feel obselete.

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» RE: Looking for love Posted by: clem
» RE: Looking for love Posted by: lynned2002
Mental Age vs Physical Age
Posted by: vksa on Sep 15, 2008 7:08 AM   
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I honestly think that while 97% of us males under the bell curve may follow the author's line of logic, there are some of us who don't at all.

I happen to be on of her hypothetical 25 yr old men with an enviable body and rock-hard erections. But despite only having had sex for the first time 4 years ago, I've (surprisingly even to myself) have developed a preference for older women. And not because of some slickly marketed message to my generation that older women are some sort of particularly exemplary notch on the bedpost, but that some of them have that self-confidence to both take and give with equal fervor and desire, regardless of the male's age. Whereas, their younger female counterparts, as noted in a message above, mostly figure their tighter skin and other body parts are enough to do the job, even while they lay like driftwood waiting for the world to come to them, pun fully intended.

I've been lucky enough to encounter a few older women who don't hold the same reservations of aislinnluv above regarding her features or his attention span so to say - oddly enough, of the women I've been with, those reservations are much more prominent amongst the younger lot. I would say there are quite a few men like myself who, yes, need the lights on to be visually stimulated, but cannot go much past that with an absence of self-confidence in our partners. Hence, the physical age, I'd posit, is less important than the mental age in sex. And just that is what I am regarding - sex, even extended, primarily sexual relationships. I'd say physical age plays a much, MUCH more important part in a deeply emotional one. But then, I'm just a 25 yr old bag of hormones looking for somewhere to stick my phallus - what's to say I'm even thinking w/the right head :)

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I love my husband...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Sep 15, 2008 7:12 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...and he loves me. We've been together for 30 years--married for the last 17. He's 2 years younger than me. Before him, for 5 years I had the "hot young stud" type. And before that, I was married for 16 years to an abuser -- that was why it took me so long to agree to marry my husband. (Oh--why did I stay with the abuser for 16 years? Because dears, for those of you who don't remember, the 50s--and except for the teenagers, the 60s too--were all about "staying with your man and accepting responsibility for the marriage--that if it was bad it's your fault etc etc.")

I am part of a horrible past for women. For many years now, my life has been great.

Let me tell you--my "hot young stud" (aka HYS)was fabulous in bed, and personally he was so far above my ex in every way, that I thought I died and went to heaven every night.

For five years we were happy. Neither HYS nor I wanted to get married--me for the obvious reasons, and him because he was 26.

Also--he had another woman; he was what's nowadays called, "a Mama's boy" and Mama mightily disapporoved of HYS' new liaison. So HYS took the easy out and kept us apart. He loved me--but he loved Mama better, and coming from where I had been, I just took it all in stride, and didn't realize after a while that the REAL reason he didn't ever broach marriage had nothing to do with me and everything to do with Mama.

Well, one day Mama crooked her little finger and he came running and didn't come back for a whole week. So I called the number I'd been told never ever to call for any reason, and when Mama answered I told her to send Sonny over for his clothes, otherwise they were going in the street. And that was that.

Then I met the man who was going to become my husband. HE took me home to meet his mother--and when I was shaky about that, he just took me in his arms and told me that if Mama didn't like me, that was her problem. I was so stunned that I thought I was on some other planet.

Bed wise, he was fabulous. It was all about ME! And only after that, about him! Funny thing was--once HYS heard that I had another guy, he came running and begging for me to reconsider. I told HYS that since it was plain that he loved Mama more than me, he should stay there. And that was that.

When my great guy got ED--it was because of his arteries. He was starting to get coronary artery disease, and that always first hits the penile arteries first--those are way smaller than coronary arteries, so they're a marker for the CAD that's coming. And most men alas, do have CAD as they get older.

That's what's wrong with that article. While everything the writer said about older vs younger, I found to be true--the writer doesn't take CAD into account, and how ED is actually a warning that SHOULD BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY--it is NOT ALWAYS a question of age vs youth.

Now he's 67. He has had six stents. I don't believe that I'll have him much longer, chiefly because I see that the whole "stent" idea is a big fake. When arteries are diseased, you BYPASS them--you do NOT PROP DISEASED ARTERIES OPEN. Alas, my husband disagrees, and hey, it's his body so other than explaining how I felt the way that I did re his Dr. Stent, I simply begged him to reconsider. But now that's way off-course of this letter. Point being, we had all kinds of sex. His ED--other than the pointer that it was for something much much worse--has never affected our sex lives. And he's as hot as he ever was. So my point is--it's all up to the 2 people. And thanks to the best of luck, I've had my "older guy" for 30 wonderful years.

It's all about the people involved. Always about that, and nothing more.

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» RE: I love my husband... Posted by: kegbot1
» RE: I love my husband... Posted by: jvaljon1
Better address the real problem -- old geezers who don't want old women
Posted by: janvdb on Sep 15, 2008 7:25 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We've had media images of ugly men -- old men or just young, stupid, unattractive men -- with attractive women crammed down our throats for decades.

Enough!!

Everyone knows that young women like older men -- IF THEY ARE RICH.

Otherwise, younger women are no more attracted to older men than younger men are to older women. It's the money both are after. Failure to accept this is causing older men more pain than soft erections.

Not filthy rich? Then forget chasing the lithe and get with someone who will want you, too -- a woman your own age!

Older people do well together. But the big roadblock to oldsters coupling with each other (besides the obvious problem of the old guys dying younger, thereby being too scarce to couple up with all the older ladies) has NOT been women's preference for younger men.

It has been older men's widespread delusions that they can get younger women.

This is fed by the media representations of the rich, where this really does happy widely -- greased by oily cash.

I'd rather see an article addressed to older men telling them to face reality -- if you're not rich, forget chasing beauty, face the reality of what you can command and get used to making love with maybe-somewhat-baggy OLDER WOMEN.

The levels of self-delusion among men are amazing.

Jan VanDenBerg

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» you are in denial Posted by: jtinsf
» RE: you are in denial...No she's not Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale
Less than 60 days til the election
Posted by: kww355 on Sep 15, 2008 7:39 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Please, AlterNet, can't we put pieces like this on hold til after the election? I like to read articles like this, but not now.

There is serious work to be done if we don't want to end up with another theocratic,warmongering administration. This election could very well be the final tipping point for our country.

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» RE: Get a grip, Posted by: oregoncharles
Slow train coming
Posted by: alkamm on Sep 15, 2008 7:40 AM   
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Hey, can't we all get along? As a guy who was tested without complaint in his 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s, there's some truth here that surpasseth all the understanding.
I'm not sure men change their modus operandi in bed all that much through experience. We pick up a few small points from generous partners, pass them on, and try to continue passing them on. Women too.
Perhaps the best advantage of an old guy is out of the sack. Old guys have learned a lot of romantic lessons by bumping up against the social realities women expect of them. They often flirt better and have great stories from their wealth of experience. The little things lead to bigger things, and I'm not talking about erections. Even nerds learn their way around conversation and small talk and listening.
As Carmen (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio) said in Color of Money,and got something like slapped for it for flirting with Paul Newman, "If you can't cut the mustard, you can still lick the lid." I have to think that ED is at least male hysteria over performance anxiety. Not to get too personal, but as Paul insisted, many of us have never had any complaints.

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Licking the jar
Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Sep 15, 2008 8:28 AM   
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I belong to a Chicago sports forum.
There's a young punk there who impotently disses me about being old.
He calls me senile, etc and, although this little mans has NOT setved in the military, he even dissed me for mentioning that.
BTW-I DID serve as have many many others, including us old "senile" guys.

There are quite a few things which are pretty damn neat about being older.
As I've matured, I also learned that baby sitting younger women in their 20's, etc just doesn't cut it.
There are really nice things about an older woman which are more than just sexual.

And, as far as being a mature man who is still sexually active, one thing about which I've been told is that an older woman enjoys and understands how nice is 'afterplay" which is not always just coitus;)

Fun article.

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I'm over 50 ....
Posted by: harryf200 on Sep 15, 2008 8:49 AM   
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... so why can't I find any twenty-somethings like her?!

Let's face it guys - she's a minority report.

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» RE: "Like her?" Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: "Like her?" Posted by: zorba1
Flattery always accepted.
Posted by: oregoncharles on Sep 15, 2008 8:52 AM   
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What else can I say?

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Say the truth: Because they have more money
Posted by: lindat on Sep 15, 2008 9:12 AM   
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that you can glom off of.

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A LITTLE TURNAROUND HERE
Posted by: sableskin on Sep 15, 2008 9:12 AM   
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Sure, I can appreciate the wonders of an "older" guy. But lets also be clear. Barring sex for sex's sake (which is fine too), anything deeper requires a little more thought. As a woman in her late 30s who has no problem w/men in their 50s (men in their 20s don't really register w/me--I just don't get the appeal at THIS point in my life), some of those guys, nifty tricks and all, love the idea that a younger woman will rejuvinate them. In the abstract, I think thats great, however, some men take this to an unrealistic extreme, and in some cases, culturally, to a deadly one. As much as I value the virtues of 35-40+, lets remember that there was a woman who was there "breaking him in" to make him the person he is. 50% of the time, that woman has been discarded, just in time for this demographic. Not to put too fine a point it, I also believe that in some instances, if interracial politics come into play, I've seen alot of "I did the married/kids thing for real--now i want to test drive some of my fetishes." Clearly, this is not true for everyone, but I do believe this can get wrapped up in these kinds of relationships.

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» Breaking him in... Posted by: MartianBachelor
876
Posted by: 876 on Sep 15, 2008 9:23 AM   
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Stupidest most useless crap I've ever read, not that I read all that. This is likely sponsored by AARP.

Might I add from my experience messing with people out of your own age range never goes well especially when you are very young. Seems like the only advocates of inter age mixing are exploitive older people. Also 50 plus year old men who chase girls in their twenties are always creeps without fail. Period.

Now watch someone rate me a 1.

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» Now watch someone rate me a 1. Posted by: leighsure
Your old friend YELLOW is pushing 50 and the only six pack he's got is in the fridge!!
Posted by: yellow on Sep 15, 2008 11:36 AM   
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Frankly, articles like this make me wonder if most Alternet Users are female. Who else would want to read this stuff. An article about whether guys prefer young women or MILFs would be viewed as sexist. I understand that sex and relationships are relevant politically as many feminists see the "personal as political" but why do we need this stuff?

Let's stick to Iran, Iraq, Israel/Palestine, Afghanistan, the Federal Reserve Bank, third world debt, free vs. fair trade, the Housing crisis, the Financial crisis, the energy crisis, the environment and, of course, my personal favorite...the chronic stagnation of late capitalism.

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I think it's good to talk about these things, because...
Posted by: ZPaul on Sep 15, 2008 1:02 PM   
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I think it's good to talk about these things, because they bring out basic human problems and frustrations. Why not talk about them? I certainly don't think it's "superficial" to talk about them.

Generally speaking, I would say that sexually, males and females are better off in our own age range, going up or down say, 7 or 8 years (not being applicable, of course, if that many years down is below legal age!) ...because although I think a "casual affair" could be fun with considerable difference in age, a more serious one would be more difficult. And when you start getting sexually intimate, there is no guarantee that at least one of the two is not going to get emotionally involved - which then converts it, at least for one of the parties, into a "serious affair", and therefore, the possibility of somebody getting hurt increases considerably, I would say more so than when there is less difference in age, even though admittedly the risk always exists.
I do believe, again, generally speaking, that there may be something positive to the man being a bit older than the woman, if nothing else, because males, IMO, not only mature more slowly than females, in some ways they continue to be more immature than their female counterparts even when they "grow up"...

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Another ridiculous article
Posted by: AMerrickanGirl on Sep 15, 2008 3:10 PM   
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That's why sex is better with an older guy. Older men have a quiet confidence and patience that allows enjoyment of the entire sexual experience, yours and his.

Yet another gross generalization.

I've been with young guys who were wonderful, patient, giving lovers. I've also been with older guys who didn't have a clue.

Alternet is great for political articles, but I've noticed that anything that has to do with sex or women's issues tends to be poorly researched and not much above Good Housekeeping quality.

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So you think you're being a rebel...
Posted by: nen on Sep 15, 2008 4:17 PM   
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Oh Forsythe, you're so naive. "Young hot men are crappy lovers. Give the old guys a chance!" you say to us. Wow, good for you. Flipping the bird to those tacky stereotypes the media feeds you... all while feeding us some of your own. Just like all blondes are not stupid as bricks, all young men are not bad in bed.

You want someone who gives you the kind of attentions you want in bed that you're writing about? Have sex with a lesbian/bisexual woman. Better yet, come and play with us transmen. You think toys are great? So do I. I don't even HAVE a real penis much less having to worry about the thing staying stiff all through the horizontal mambo. You want a creative and experimental lover? You are selling yourself short here.

Take the blinders off and come write us another ditty when you've had some REAL sexual experience.

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I really couldn't tell you if older men are better lovers than young men
Posted by: GuitarBill on Sep 15, 2008 6:00 PM   
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All I can do is relate my experience.

I got married when I was 32, my wife was 20 at the time.

We learned from one another and that's been a lot of fun. I was lucky in that respect because I had the benefit of learning from the women I'd been with prior to meeting my wife, which was helpful, in my opinion.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that good sex is a learning process, so have sex with your loved one as often as you see fit and try to enjoy the learning curve. Patients and understanding go a long way, so hang in there and eventually you'll discover what works for both of you.

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Newmexicolefty
Posted by: janmar on Sep 15, 2008 10:00 PM   
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Wow, there are a lot of defensive guys out there. The article, in my view, has a lot of truth to it .. more then many men are ready to admit. Look at the scorecard here. Almost every post attacks or denegrates the writer.

Havelock Ellis, in his monumental work, The Psychology of Sex, pointed out that men engaged in sex are often like an orangutan trying to play a violin.

A little talk about sensitivity to a woman's desire and need and the boys throw up their hands and start name calling. We've been taught a whole set of canned aphorisms about sex and we can't shake them until we get experience and start to learn a bit more about the physical and psychological aspects of love making. Sex is fun, not a challenge, and it takes experience to know what makes it work best for both people. And it's not always about intercourse.

Many older men who have successful sexual liaisons pay attention to the rhythms of women and are rewarded.

You all want to attack the writer instead of refuting her. As an older male, I know she's on the mark. You need to stop thinking with your testosterone and your "johnson," and spend a little time listening.

The problem is you can't talk about intimacy and sex because you're performance oriented. Think about it, you worry more about the effect of your endeavor than concentrating on making it the best for your partner. Besides worrying about peformance, you're worried about the guy before and the guy after and here comes your friend anxiety, so you either aggress or get limp.

You can't win on those terms. Listen to the lady, not to pharma ads.

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» RE: Newmexicolefty Posted by: meeneecat
Newmexicolefty it's all about you
Posted by: Andrew_S on Sep 15, 2008 10:25 PM   
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With such high demands of your superior sexuality, you are either a nymph, a deluded egotist or don't get laid very often. Your choices in partners need not be laid bare as a testimony to your own shortcummings. If you want to be played like a violin find the right bow, simple !

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I'm Confused...
Posted by: Stanislaus on Sep 15, 2008 10:37 PM   
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According to this article, if I understand this writer correctly, a young fellow with "six-pack" abs is being compared sexually to an older, more experienced man regarding fulfilling women's sexual pleasure. The author expresses that she, herself, would far prefer the performances of the more experienced man over 50 years of age to any young, heart and gonad-pounding, rock-solid, bed star.

I'm envisioning this article being written by a male who targets older women as he prefers their vast sexual experience rather than pursuing young Barbie dolls who might fall short of his expectations and be tossed aside for a new notch on his bedpost. Of course, to his thinking, he would reap far greater personal pleasure selecting experienced, older women, who know how to treat him by making the time go by more slowly, thus allowing him to savor their delicate offerings.

Pardon me, but isn't the author still focusing on performance by having any older man fulfilling her sexual needs rather than having sex because of any love? Gee, now there's a concept! To this so-called expert, it's okay for a woman, herself exemplified, to be just as selfish pursuing her pleasure as she describes a young man with abs pumping for his! Does she care who the old geezer is she sleeps with? Does she care about him as a person? His feelings? Not according to this article. Just so he's over 50 and puts her mind and body into a state of blissful nirvana.

As an older geezer, I just wanted to add my perspective... If you're going to trash me and move on to my senior friends after you get your jollies, then I offer you a quote from a hit by Shania Twain in which she sings, "If you're not in it for love, I'm outta here!"

Be thankful I don't bring the wrath of the NOM (National Organization for Men) to camp on your doorstep for you encouraging women to see men from your perspective as a piece of meat -- whether a calf, a full grown bull, or an aging experienced steer!

It's time men defended themselves against self-serving predators like you. I hope you're practicing safe-sex with those "experienced" charmers, because with all of those wonderful hunks you feast on, surely some will provide you and your female friends with more than "La La Land". Perhaps you could post your phone number on this site in larger print so we 'experienced men' can post it in all the senior centers around town and from state to state. How does it feel to have "the shoe on the other foot?" And you better not call me "Sweetie". It's that time of the month and I have a headache.

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» RE: I'm Confused... Posted by: meeneecat
When I was twenty five women told how sensitive I was I thought they were talking to someone else.
Posted by: Nightstallion on Sep 16, 2008 1:34 AM   
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Today if a woman paid attention to me I would passout. They don't even want to touch me. I don't blame them I didn't age well, but I look ok for someone on the Highside of 65 and I clean up real good. Just where are these women who like older men? I think they are a fignewton of someones imagination!

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