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Sex and Relationships

The Bikini Car Wash: One Sexist Tradition

By Kimberly Gadette, Women's eNews. Posted August 28, 2008.


Bikini car washes, inexplicably sanctioned by many parents, teach girls the best way to turn a buck is by stripping down for men.
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Ah, the sights of summer: movie lines snaking 'round the cineplex, kids splashing in wading pools and scantily clad young ladies at busy intersections holding hand-lettered signs reading "Car Wash Today!"

Bikinis are their work uniforms and their job is to dance, jiggle, wave and sing out; anything to lure customers to the fundraising car wash for their schools, youth clubs or churches. These teen queens' acts of solicitation are more than merely tolerated; they're fully sanctioned by their teachers, ministers and parents.

The men driving by often slow down to a crawl in order to take a good, long look at this show from female teens. But have any of the teens' authority figures similarly taken a good look? At themselves?

If this is the charity that begins at home, perhaps it's time to call in child services.

According to the Web site of Green Girls Global, an international pro-environment, people and animals group, "The car wash fundraiser is about as American as apple pie. I don't know of a student, boy-girl scout, or church group that hasn't participated in one."

But with the young ladies dressed in no more that string-tied halter tops, shorts cut down-to-there while up-to-here, is this apple pie? Or, rather, underage cheesecake?

This supposedly innocent, altruistic activity has recently trickled down to my own sleepy suburban neighborhood. For the past few weekends, I couldn't help but notice a group of teens -- a dance team from a nearby high school -- performing energetic choreography, signs in hand, at a heavy-traffic intersection.

Arresting Antics

Though I knew they wouldn't be able to hear me over their sing-song shouts, I wanted to say, "Careful, girls, watch all that jumping around in those loose halter tops and teeny low-riding shorts. The goal is to be 'arresting,' not 'arrested.'"

Instead, I walked over to the woman in charge, an enthusiastic mom who seemed happy to answer my questions. But she withheld her name, saying, "I've gotten in trouble from speaking up before."

It turns out that though this dance team had made it to the Top 4 in state competitions in the past, this year the club wanted to capture first place. To do so, the mom explained, the team needed extra dollars for better costumes, an outside choreographer and a rental bus to transport the team to meets. "If we didn't want to be as good, we wouldn't do this."

I pointed to the teens feverishly jiggling at the primarily male drivers cruising by. Was she concerned about the spectacle of the young women dressed in sex outfits, literally working the street for the almighty dollar?

"It's a learning experience" -- she paused, struggling for the right word -- "in advertising. After all, they're always going to have to market themselves." She smiled broadly. "Besides, the girls are so pretty. People want to help the kids."

Was this her idea? Nope. I found a number of Web sites that offered definitions of the different varieties of car wash available: "manual," "automatic" and "bikini." One, a la a Hooters car wash, is considered commercial, in which bikini-clad young women charge a fee for the entertainment given to the car owners.

Bikini Wash-Out

The other variety was right on the money: "This car wash system is usually done in summer in the United States and Canada ... A fund is generally raised in the name of a school, sport association or for charity purposes. The pretty school girls in bikinis call by the donors at the roadside with colorful cardboard signs and the cars are then washed by their male and female classmates at a nearby place."


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Kimberly Gadette is a writer based in Portland, Ore.

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Only in America
Posted by: cordas on Aug 28, 2008 12:27 AM   
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I dunno but that sounds so dodgy I am left speechless... Given the enviroment over here in the UK with regards to peadophillia I couldn't see anyone doing this, let alone parents, schools or church groups promoting the idea...

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» RE: Only in America Posted by: opmoc
» Thank you opmoc Posted by: rancespergl
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» RE: Only in America Posted by: MerrynS
» RE: Only in America Posted by: YogiBear
Does it make a difference?
Posted by: ahmlco on Aug 28, 2008 12:40 AM   
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News flash. Cute teenage girls already know that they're in demand and that their looks can be used to their advantage. As such, I sincerely doubt that participating in a car wash or two is going to have a major impact on their mindset.

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» RE: Does it make a difference? Posted by: strahlungsamt
» RE: Does it make a difference? Posted by: jroth420
» The customers are women!! Posted by: pangolin
Bikini car wash: kind of says Freedom to me
Posted by: Bobsays on Aug 28, 2008 1:38 AM   
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I live in an inner city area that has become mostly populated by women in hijab and burkha. The atmosphere has become more and more stifling. A bikini car wash would kind of say freedom to me if it ever happened. Don't take freedoms for granted: it can soon be taken away.

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» Amen Posted by: kepstein7777
» RE: Amen Posted by: Jbuuty
» Bring Back the Good Ol' Days. Posted by: strahlungsamt
» RE: Bring Back the Good Ol' Days. Posted by: strahlungsamt
» Bikini car wash: kind of says Freedom to me Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals
» Exactly Posted by: Bobsays
Could the slut-shaming in this article be any more blatant?
Posted by: sabrinamorgan on Aug 28, 2008 2:26 AM   
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It's not right to require or even expect a high level of body exposure from under-18s, especially for school purposes.

It's also not right to imply that an under-18 female is a tramp for wearing a bikini in public. Oh no, a female body. Horrors.

Since attractive female bodies = sex, obviously, no female body could ever be on display for a nonsexual reason.

It's just a bathing suit. In the heat wave summer temps that prompt those fundraising car washes, they're more comfortable than wearing regular clothes.

Would a one-piece get as much attention from passerby? No. But let's be realistic: it's just a human body. People wear what they wear.

As for the long-term implications... teenage girls learn pretty quickly that the attention - and money - of dirty old men flows naturally toward pretty younger women.

Having been there myself I'm pretty sure that the "chubbier" girls wearing coverups weren't doing so because they didn't make the cut and weren't allowed to wear a bikini (?) but out of choice and insecurity. Don't you remember the girls that would swim with their t-shirts on, and almost never take their shorts off at pool parties?

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strange
Posted by: richholland on Aug 28, 2008 2:39 AM   
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if the headmaster of the school of my 15 years old stefdaughter living in ChiangMai (Thailand) would propose bikini carwash , the honorable gentleman would certainly loose his job and be put in jail or mental hospital.

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» RE: strange Posted by: bornxeyed
Yep, that'll fix it.
Posted by: kenhymes on Aug 28, 2008 2:42 AM   
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Yeah. Just stop this one stupid activity, and all the power games and mind#$%@'s associated with sex will just melt away. Because feminists are above all that, and know how we can all achieve ethically pure, transcendent lives, rising above 10,000 years of abuse and social programming with a few well-chosen rules. Hmmmm. Didn't the Puritans try that? Didn't work out so well for women that time around.

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Make up your mind
Posted by: marxalot on Aug 28, 2008 5:00 AM   
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Another article on today's front page Alternet is smacking down Christians for harping on abstinence and giving advice like:

Quote: [The feature tells the young reader that "guys are visual, so when a girl is dressing to show off (wearing tight pants, low-cut shirts, etc.), it is hard for guys because they are stimulated by what they see."]

But this article seems to be making the same point.

So how in hell are young ladies supposed to dress now? She can't win can she? She's either a Christian prude or a sexploitated slut I guess.

I think both articles are blather. And I'm not a Christian arguing in favor of abstinence programs, so don't go there.

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» RE: Make up your mind Posted by: Godfather89
» RE: Make up your mind Posted by: bottom-line
» RE: Make up your mind Posted by: truthlover
» I don't see the contradiction Posted by: BreeMass
» There's no real contradiction... Posted by: MartianBachelor
Suprised
Posted by: cordas on Aug 28, 2008 5:45 AM   
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I am actually quite suprissed by the attitude of the vast majority of posters... I wonder if its one of those cultural differences.

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» RE: Suprised Posted by: jroth420
In most US public schools...
Posted by: Marlena on Aug 28, 2008 6:14 AM   
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The dance,Cheerleading and Band have to finance themselves....so they are left with ways to earn $$$ they can sell things door to door....or do car washes.....uniforms and accessories and trips are expensive!! But don't listen to me..im a cheerleader turnen topless dancer cause i made a lot more $$$$$ taking my clothes off than working @ fast food place or in retail. And i got a lot more respect from my bosses too!! Ok, so i have no modesty:) Get clue people!!! Males like to look @ females, Females like being looked at..its called evolution?? species survival?? And too many "feminists" want to replace one set of rules with another as restrictive if not more so...get a fracking clue!!

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» RE: In most US public schools... Posted by: countingdaisies
» Not so fast, honeychile..... Posted by: Beepath
Girls just don't understand!
Posted by: jrmart on Aug 28, 2008 6:14 AM   
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i was at a youth baseball game the other day and was shocked to see dozens of 12 and 13 year old girls dressed like streetwalkers. They had no idea that they looked slutty. They had no idea of how they were coming off to the 14 and 15 year old boys that they were so desperately trying to attract.
And there, right in the same stands were their mothers. YEE GODS! MOM --BE A FREAKIN PARENT!
Two days later an 18 year old boy was arrested on rape charges from a 13 year old girl dressed in the same gilf clothing. Now, had she been raped that would have been wrong and the boy would have ruined his life. As it happens she lied and it wasn't the first time. That however isn't the point. The point is early teen girls are sublimely innocent. Milly whats her name poses for a Magazine cover half naked and looking inviting. If some farmer in Ohio ordered that pic through the internet he could be arrested for posessing child porn. But the teen girl thinks, Wow, if Hanna MOntana dresses that whay it must be cool.
MOM ???? WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?

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» RE: Girls DON'T understand! Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: Girls DON'T understand! Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Girls DON'T understand! Posted by: ezilla
» RE: Girls DON'T understand! Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: Girls DON'T understand! Posted by: jrmart
» RE: Girls just don't understand! Posted by: countingdaisies
» RE: Girls just don't understand! Posted by: truthlover
What about boys?
Posted by: maxpayne on Aug 28, 2008 6:21 AM   
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Just put them on shorts and washing. If girls are to be subject to this, let's even it up.

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» RE: What about boys? Posted by: opmoc
» I'll tell you what! Posted by: strahlungsamt
» RE: What about boys? Posted by: Denali42
The Bikini Car Wash: One Sexy Tradition
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Aug 28, 2008 6:30 AM   
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Since when is it a secret that men find young girls prancing around in bikinis and hosing down your car to be no less than 8 different kinds of sexy?

Just because it reinforces that women can benefit from their sexuality I don't think it necessarily undermines the fact that women can use their other gifts to get ahead as well. Lets face it, men aren't going to stop finding women in bikinis sexy no matter how much femenist bullshit is thrown at them and women aren't going to stop wearing bikinis no matter how much femenist bullshit is thrown at them.

So lets all just relax, enjoy the beauty that is the female form, get our cars washed and help those girls make it to state!

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876
Posted by: 876 on Aug 28, 2008 7:10 AM   
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Why does this site at once post articles about “creepy” Christians promoting abstinence to kids and others about the dangers of being a teen tramp? Is it just me or is this contradictory?

Americans are seriously depraved sick people, why wouldn’t they promote their daughters standing in smog and traffic shaking their breasts at passing truckers for a $3 car wash then piss and moan about “third world” savages and their treatment of women? This sort of hypocritical bs is what America is all about. God knows the only thing that makes your nation “great” is utter bs. If you people didn’t have a gift for it you wouldn’t have anything at all. I mean you’re the nation that slaughters by the millions all while congratulating yourselves as liberators and lovers of democracy.

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» I agree Posted by: MamaPantz
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» RE: I agree Posted by: countingdaisies
How About Turning Tables?
Posted by: curiousdwk on Aug 28, 2008 7:30 AM   
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What if the male football team were having a car wash in their speedo swim trunks? Would other, older, men with erectile dysfunction complain? Of course not. So why do the prudish women or women who equate sensuality with evil complain?

This was written by a woman who evidently does not differentiate sex with sensuality. And if she doesn't want to, that's fine, but she should not consider her perverted views to be the values of others. To me, this author is the pervert - not the males slowing down to look. She is perverting that which is natural. And she should grow up and mature and learn that there is a difference between sex and sensuality.

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» RE: Sensual Carwashes. Posted by: ezilla
» RE: Sensual Carwashes. Posted by: kegbot1
» Well, dawg....... Posted by: Beepath
Bikini Car Washes are Creepy, not Teaching Abstinence
Posted by: bottom-line on Aug 28, 2008 7:46 AM   
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There's a lot of things that are "natural." Picking your nose, wiping your butt, burping, calling people mother...ers, stealing, raping, killing. These are all natural.

They are also barbaric. Civilized people use judgment, self control, and answer to their spiritual side, not just their animal urges. When the nation sinks to public blood sports like the Mayans and Romans, is this to be welcomed? Torture, murder, human sacrifice, all these evil things are what a depraved populace engages in when they throw their conscience and inhibitions to the wind and become selfish animals.

Being chaste and self disciplined, putting others ahead of oneself, is not "creepy" as the contradictory article put up by Alternet claims. Corrupting young people by these bikini car washes is what's creepy.

Carting these teens off to the abortionist to have their babies ripped out of their wombs is also creepy. So is putting them on the pill creepy, nauseating, and is one of the reasons why our nation is on the brink of nuclear annhilation. I said the brink. We get the leaders we deserve, even ones who provoke nuclear war with Russia.

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» Evolution of tits? Posted by: Beepath
» RE: Mental health... Posted by: Crazy H
Ganymede's Ghost
Posted by: scottml on Aug 28, 2008 7:50 AM   
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I think this article over-generalizes. Being an American who grew up in the suburbs with parents who made me go to church, I have fond memories of church youth group car washes. Not all are as seedy as the ones described here, and we all had to take turns at the various jobs while three or four parents supervised but didn't actually do any work (that would have been cheating). I went to a liberal church that didn't teach us to be ashamed of our bodies or not to think for ourselves. We--boys and girls--were encouraged to wear swim suits to the car washes because we always ended up having water fights between the few cars that actually got washed--or so we thought. Besides, Jesus wouldn't have ruined perfectly good clothing when she could wear a swim suit. I never considered the "sex sells" angle to these things until I read this article twenty-five years after the fact.

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Some hire men too.
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Aug 28, 2008 8:06 AM   
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bikinicarwashsa.com/jobs.htm

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Sex, bad! Killing, good!
Posted by: GuitarBill on Aug 28, 2008 8:11 AM   
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Americans are the only people on Earth who will plop little Johnny down in front of the idiot box to watch an Arnold Schwarzenegger flick where he kills 500 people in the first 10 minutes of the movie, but will have a heart attack if they find a copy of Playboy Magazine under his bed (shakes head in amazement).

What's even more amazing is that this blatant brain dead duplicity seems to infect both the right and the left (shakes head in amazement again).

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Altruism? no, it is selfishness itself.
Posted by: o on Aug 28, 2008 8:17 AM   
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check your Websters author. aint no altruism about raising money so you can be numero uno in your little group. which is really what the cheer squad thinks they are achieving.

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But mention gay couples and.....
Posted by: jontan88 on Aug 28, 2008 8:38 AM   
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these same parents will foam at the mouth and attack anyone who dares even suggest such a thing... hypocritical sexist pedophilic bigots...

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Support our bikinis
Posted by: sirios on Aug 28, 2008 8:39 AM   
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Ok, it probably is sexist, but i would bet that if the girls[women] were dressed in full combat fatigues that
1- no men would stop to have their car washed and,
2- if any one would write an article about the fatigues, it would be in patriotic praise of the young ladies.
At the risk of repeating myself, this country is obsessed with repressing sexual behavior and promoting military endeavors. How about a new ribbon bumper sticker reading "support our bikini clad girls". instead of you know what.

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» RE: Support our bikinis Posted by: bornxeyed
roflcopter
Posted by: cyr3n on Aug 28, 2008 8:46 AM   
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"jiggling feverishly"???!!!
That is the worst imagery ever!!

I've never once participated in a bikini car wash for fund-raising (probably because they'd have me behind a desk) but I'd agree that a speedo-dude car wash would even things out.

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In All My Years...
Posted by: lexicon on Aug 28, 2008 9:04 AM   
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I've never seen a "bikini car wash". Sorry, dear author, but these are not the soft-porn events that you make them out to be.

What happens is this: It's midsummer. It's hot. The event organizer tells the girls and boys that they will be standing out in the hot sun for several hours, there WILL be water and they most likely WILL get wet. A little.

Umm....let's parse that out...summer...water...wet...ah, got it: "bathing suit".

The cheer squad mom accosted by the author in the story, was most probably very confused at the sexualized frame placed on the event by the interviewer...the woman was having difficulty making the same jump that the author had made...girls doing their cheer routines out in public being just another form of paedophile lap dancing for greasy old men.

The simple truth is, at no time in any American public school are teen girls told to go out there and shake some scantily clad tits and ass to raise money.

It just happens to be one of the terrible, horrible, awful, despicable, depraved, ignoble, embarrassing things about the world, that there is a universal beauty and appeal of youthful, young adult forms (be they male or female)...youth is just (unfortunately) pleasant to behold. beautiful.

One of the other terrible, horrible, awful, despicable, depraved, ignoble, embarrassing things about the world, is that this youthful beauty is, for the most part, wasted on the young.

The third terrible, horrible, awful, despicable, depraved, ignoble, embarrassing thing about the world, is that people like this author automatically assume that it's sexualized.

lexicon

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» RE: In All My Years... Posted by: Denali42
Maybe.....
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Aug 28, 2008 9:15 AM   
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But would you go to a 'Banana Hammok' car wash?? Some might. But if the society is sexist,blame the media. We're confronted on all side as to what a 'woman' is or a 'man' is, and all of them are as unrealistic as winning the Iraq War.
Sexism is crammed down our throats because we have little to no Respect for eachother.
Until we focus our notions of what it is to be a human above the groin,we won't advance as a people.
Besides,when you're getting your car washed by a girl in a swimsuit,are you thinking about how we got in this stupid war or how we got stuck with Bush? Probably not,and that's why they have them.

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I've never been to a bikini car wash. I love stuff like that!!
Posted by: yellow on Aug 28, 2008 9:26 AM   
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Here in the Chicago area they have "fashion shows" in the sleezier parts of town where young women go into neighborhood bars during happy hour and "model" bikinis, langerie and all manner of skimpy clothing to male customers for tips. The ladies make great money and the show takes the conversation away from sports for a while.

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in Seattle, bikini baristas
Posted by: billwald on Aug 28, 2008 10:03 AM   
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In the Seattle area the new trend is bikini baristas (sp?) in the drive thru coffee stands.

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This article is so rife with overkill it's just barely worth a comment.
Posted by: DaBear on Aug 28, 2008 10:46 AM   
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By paragraph two I couldn't believe what I was reading. The author clearly has a fundamental lack of comprehension concerning feminism, sexual and emotional literacy or intelligence. The exchange between her and the cheer-mom merely illustrates and points an exclamation point on the profound ignorance that is 'Merkaan culture. I almost couldn't go on to the second page... and then it got so much worse as the "author" expounds upon her vapid pretenses at healthy sexuality.

Both women (and more than half the commentors here too.. geeziss) need a education in healthy sexuality. Oh wait, this is 'Merkuh where political affiliation clearly has nothing to do with the obscene level of idiocy, emotional un-intelligence, and anti-intellectualism so prominent in the populace.

I fear for my daughter in such a cult of shitheadedness.

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so men find young women attractive...
Posted by: constructivist on Aug 28, 2008 11:36 AM   
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big deal, a teenager is not a child. it's funny that an article like this is posted on the same day as "The Christian Right's Slick Campaign to Make Abstinence Seem Trendy." so which is it? should teens be seen as sexual beings or not?

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Whoring out our daughters
Posted by: Maxwell House on Aug 28, 2008 11:43 AM   
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I am from the same city as the author, and I read, and agreed with, a shorter version of this that was in our local paper. I know exactly what she is talking about- and she is spot on.

It's true- we have bikini car washes that look like underage porn. We used to joke about the topless bars that hosted their own bikini car washes to drum up business (yes, you can get your windshield washed by silicone and suds, and maybe get a lap dance after). Portland has more strip clubs in the city limits than any other city in the US. We are so proud!

So when the tweenies and teenies started selling their bodies in their teeny weenie bikinis, we wondered where the parents were. Who knew they were hiding in back, taking the money from the car johns and doing the work while Baby Bunny jiggled her newbie boobies on the corner?

I was shocked last Halloween when two 13 year old girls showed up at our door in brief boy shorts & itty bitty sports bras and body paint. Being me, I asked what they were supposed to be- hookers? I gave them candy, but they were probably hoping for a twenty slipped down their panties. We live in a middle/upper class neighborhood, and these girls live just around the corner. My neighbor's daughter would never get away with dressing like that, nor would she want to, and she is a total hottie. But she's too busy taking extra classes, thriving at cross country, working in the summer, and preparing for college in a couple years. It's not that her family has more money than the teen hookers do, it's that her parents actually PARENT.

I guess with the Bush economy, it is good that these girls can shake and jiggle and learn to use their charms for cash until they drop out of school, since they will have the education and experience they need to work at strip clubs.

Then when they're dried up before their time from sexual diseases, drugs and the toll that prostitution takes, we can yell at them when they try to wash our windshields for spare change, perhaps ruining the wash job we just got from the new school hotties on the corner.

When my beautiful and brilliant niece was in her senior year of HS, she went to the career counselor for advice. The counselor took one look at my curvacious niece, and suggested she work at Hooter's. My niece said she thought she'd try COLLEGE instead! She's now majoring in psychology, which goes to show that girls with big breasts can have even bigger brains, if you give them a chance.

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» RE: Whoring out our daughters Posted by: strahlungsamt
Can't We Just Leave The Christian Right's Kid's and The Muslim Right's Kids To Get Together
Posted by: opmoc on Aug 28, 2008 11:46 AM   
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And shag each other senseless?

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Different writers, sources, perspectives and views
Posted by: Joshua Holland on Aug 28, 2008 12:20 PM   
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Several have offered comments like this:

Why does this site at once post articles about “creepy” Christians promoting abstinence to kids and others about the dangers of being a teen tramp? Is it just me or is this contradictory?

These are articles by different authors, from different sources on different -- and only tangentially related -- topics. "AlterNet" has no single perspective on what's going on in the world -- the editors argue over issues every day, and we constantly have differing opinions on all sorts of things on the site.

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I'm Shocked: You Mean to Say Bikini Car Washes are Sexist?
Posted by: Jeffrey Levy on Aug 28, 2008 12:35 PM   
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I'm shocked to learn that having my wife and daughter perform a public service half-naked and soaked with water is a sexist practice!!

I see a slippery slope here: Next thing you know, pole-dancing and even pornographic films are going to be considered sexist, too .....

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Lighten up
Posted by: sirios on Aug 28, 2008 1:22 PM   
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Sometimes i think that Alternet posts articles to pit men against women Repubs against Dems etc., just to sit sit back and wait for the fire works to start and then roll on the floor in rapturous giggling. On the other hand maybe there is no covert intention but it still turns into the same circus. i would hope that it was intentional, because it would indicate that Alternet is willing to inject a playful side to the daily report of how fuc#$% up the world is and give if only for a few moments a needed holiday from the sometimes overly serious nature of the sight. After all, at the core of everyones personality is unrestricted joy. If that does not seem to be available ,then at least a little laughter might sufice

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Too bad
Posted by: Blue Heron on Aug 28, 2008 3:33 PM   
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There are so many more comments on this than on corporate corruption. They are the true rapists. You can all sit here, day in and day out worrying about your genitals (lack of or too much exposure), or you could actually speak up about something that really is ruining our collective lives. Look, I always stand up for womens' issues when I can. But there comes a point when you wonder if the pervs should just stick with the pervs and the Puritans would do the same. That would free up vital space to discuss the more pressing issues.

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Didn't read the article
Posted by: blogbooks on Aug 28, 2008 4:05 PM   
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If you want to make money selling what essentially amounts to a terrible car wash performed by volunteers there is one, and only one, way to do so: sex appeal.

When I'm driving down the road and I see a sign saying something regarding a "car wash" held by 16 year old high school athlete chicks I seriously consider stopping to let them wash my car poorly in exchange for an inflated fee.

Tell me another way you can make me do that and I'll read your terrible article.

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Good business
Posted by: zorba1 on Aug 28, 2008 5:05 PM   
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A buddy of mine inherited a carwash from his pop, it was a one buck affair always losing money.
My buddy started womens days with local jocks wearing very tight bottoms only and pretty girls in bikini's on mens days.
It became a gold mine in less then a month.
He retired several years ago a multi-millionaire.
Sex sells, teens know this long before most parents try to explain the Birds and Bee's thing. The kids end up laughing.
I did it years ago, my sons and daughters have done it, they survived.
I see nothing wrong with it.

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Give me a break!
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Aug 28, 2008 5:40 PM   
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What the heck, if you don't like seeing young women in bathing suits - the do the rest of us healthy males a favor and don't look. There are far greater problems here in the US than complaining about students earning money for a good cause.

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» RE: Give me a break! Posted by: Denali42
The parents allow this?
Posted by: Ruby on Aug 28, 2008 6:39 PM   
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Why not just outright prostitute them? They'd make a lot more money quicker, and save the environment, too.

Unbelievable.

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Environmental impact of impromtu car washes a scandal too
Posted by: urbanguy on Aug 28, 2008 8:21 PM   
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As if it weren't bad enough that we exploit our children to raise money but the environmental impacts of all water and soap going into the local sewer system is a major problem and cause for concern. Raising money for good causes is all well and good but the environment pays a heavy price.

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Find another cause
Posted by: Elmowilcox on Aug 28, 2008 11:16 PM   
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Definition: appropriate dress
"Wearing articles of clothing best suited to any given situation, providing either comfort or utility or some combination of both depending on the needs of the wearer."

Example: I wear blue jeans, long sleeved shirts, boots, and leather gloves while I climb trees to prune them or cut them down. Best suited to provide safety from insects, cuts and scratches on my thighs and arms, and some measure of protection from my chainsaw.

Ever think that maybe they're wearing the bathing suits....because they're getting wet and it's hot outside? Sometimes the most simple, and innocent explanation is the right one. Sure, it also makes good advertising, but in a "chicken or the egg" argument, which came first? Situation appropriate clothing, or showing skin for dollars?

As I would look absolutely ridiculous in the top of an oak tree doing my best Phelps in a Speedo holding a chainsaw, so would a group of girls standing around in my arboring "uniform" trying to convince people they are out there to wash cars.

Ever wore soaking wet denim before? It's about as uncomfortable as you can get.

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and another thing...
Posted by: Elmowilcox on Aug 28, 2008 11:37 PM   
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In a bigger picture. Based on just about every article I see on here written from a feminist cause/perspective, what is the ultimate goal of the feminist? Seriously I wanna know. Aside from the real causes such as equal pay and such, seems to me that they will not be happy and have nothing to write about until men no longer look at women, hate them even. Would feminists prefer that all men be homosexuals and all women be robe-wearing man-haters? I know for damn sure that women don't want all their men to roll over and be miserable floormats to the female population. To me its another case of humanity trying to pretend that we aren't also still animals with biological wiring.
Without generalizing to the entire population of either side, woman want to be sexy and want men to want to look at them, and men definitely want to look at them, and when both are ready for it they both want to have sex with each other.

What's it called again....nature?

That's not even mentioning the ideal that every man and woman has a right to personal choices and freedoms, because in that aspect I could make a serious argument that feminists are closer to neoconservative fascists than they'd like to admit to.

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» RE: and another thing... Posted by: richholland
... but selling porn is illegal
Posted by: themotie on Aug 29, 2008 5:04 AM   
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This is the same country where you can be convicted for selling ordinary porn to consenting adults. God (or is that someone else?), it seems, is not without a sense of irony.

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speedo/jockstrap car wash
Posted by: zooeyhall on Aug 29, 2008 6:31 AM   
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As a gay guy, I wouldn't mind at all to have a guy speedo/jockstrap car wash.

My car would be lots cleaner...that's for sure!

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I see nothing wrong with it
Posted by: zorba1 on Aug 29, 2008 11:28 AM   
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Point is this is America, you can pretty much do or say what you want.
No one has any right to tell another how to live thier lives.
I go to church and try to live good but i have my own way of doing things, i do not have to belive in yours.
I do not like the gay lifestyle yet i have gay friends and relatives, i do not like atheists but i just made friends with one, I hated cops but have cops as friends now.
Things change and so do you, millions of teens are doing far worse things these days then working in skimpy clothing.
We have a major drug problem, preteen sex, and a 50%+ drop out rate in some cities and one third of Americas children go to bed hungry every night.
Pick up one of these causes to make a real difference in our society.
Ranting and being prudes about sexism is going nowhere.

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Ladies, get thee to a brothel!
Posted by: Beepath on Aug 30, 2008 7:08 AM   
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An 18 year-old can legally work in a brothel. She just can't sit at the bar. They sit on couches against the walls like little innocent flowers. But that is the only difference. So, all you high-school drop out, fast food workers who're putting out for free anyway trying to be "in wuv," get your young asses to Nevada. It's not even about having a pretty or ugly face, it's about being young, ferchrissakes. The patriarchy is going to exploit you anyway, so exploit yourself on your own terms. Stay away from pimps. You'll make an incredible amount of money if you just keep your wits about you. Don't drink and don't get high. Don't get mixed up with losers, and choose your friends wisely. It's hard work, but not as hard as the work you're doing now standing on your feet all day. There're womyn who spend a couple of weeks working and then travel for a month. They go first class, travel the world and detox from the pressure and disgust of men. You'll learn the "two sides to every man." There's the decent, pillar-of-the-community and then there's the scum-bag who actually salivates talking to you. Why put up with this behavior? At no charge to them! You are as entitled to financial compensation as any attorney is for their time. Your very marketable product is much more than just skilled labor. Wouldn't you rather be a great whore than a repressed housewife whose husband is most likely gay anyway? Indeed, ladies, take your power. It won't be given to you. Be strong enough to make your business your own business and not be subjected to the brow-beating of a society that thinks it knows whats best for you. I suggest you research a great and respected whore by the name of Lillie Langtry for starters. To Thine Own Self Be True, and mean it!

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I wonder..
Posted by: xmvince on Aug 31, 2008 10:16 AM   
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I wonder if a man would ever post an article like this.. BORING

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Women aren't sex objects?
Posted by: blogbooks on Aug 31, 2008 7:33 PM   
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So what are?

We can't look at women as sex objects so what do we look at as sex objects?

Seems to me like you feminists missed biology 101.

The penis goes in the vagina.

Welcome to reality.

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