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Sex and Relationships

Nerdy Girls Have Attained Sexy Status

By Vanessa Richmond, The Tyee. Posted June 21, 2008.


A growing breed of young women are claiming the nerd label for themselves, challenging the notion of what a geek should look like.
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After endless amounts of drool over sexy male nerds (like the recent NY Observer piece about male "nerds of steel," hailing the arrival of geeks who are buff), many men and women are cheering about the "revenge of the nerdette" -- the rise of the sexy nerd girl.

Of course, until now female geeks' sex appeal has been roughly equivalent to that of Napoleon Dynamite. Wikipedia describes the nerd girl as a stock character who wears eye glasses, dresses unfashionably, wears pigtails (and other little girl items like mary-jane shoes and knee high socks), is shy and socially inept and either overweight or gangly. More recently, they sometimes have a passion for social justice (see Simpson, Lisa) are feminist or post-feminist (see Granger, Hermione) or come up with the piece of knowledge that enables the plot to be resolved (see Velma from Scooby Doo). And sometimes, just sometimes, they get a makeover and become kinda pretty albeit in an awkward way (see Willow from Buffy the Vampire Slayer).

But that's not what nerd girl 2.0 looks like. The new, tech-savvy, sci-fi loving nerd looks more like a cheerleader than a mouse: this week's Newsweek introduces us to the new nerd girls, "they're smart, they're techie and they're hot."

Love your pocket protector!

The Nerd Girl group at Tufts University, for example, "may not look like your stereotypical pocket-protector-loving misfits -- [one] has a thing for pink heels -- but they're part of a growing breed of young women who are claiming the nerd label for themselves. In doing so, they're challenging the notion of what a geek should look like, either by intentionally sexing up their tech personas, or by simply finding no disconnect between their geeky pursuits and more traditionally girly interests such as fashion, makeup and high heels." An example of the new prototype is Cristina Sanchez: a master's student in biomedical engineering and a former cheerleader who can talk "endlessly" about aerospace.

Newsweek goes on to say that they've modeled themselves after Tina Fey, whose character on 30 Rock is a "Star Wars-loving, tech-obsessed, glasses-wearing geek, but who's garnered mainstream appeal and a few fashion-magazine covers. Or on actress Danica McKellar, who coauthored a math theorem, wrote a book for girls called "Math Doesn't Suck" and posed in a bikini for Stuff magazine. Or even Ellen Spertus, a Mills College professor and research scientist at Google -- and the 2001 winner of the Silicon Valley "Sexiest Geek Alive" pageant."

But when nerd girls stop looking like dorks and start looking like cheerleaders, and get more attention for both sexiness and smarts as a result, is that a post-feminist triumph? Or is it a return to the days of Mad Men, when lipstick, not ideas, was the most important thing to grace a woman's lips?

Gadget fetishes

Clearly, some things have changed. A recent Pew Internet & American Life project found that among users 12 to 17, girls dominate the blogosphere and social networking sites, and outnumber boys in creating websites of their own. Women gamers now even outnumber men ages 25-34, according to a 2006 study by the Consumer Electronics Association.

Because of the numbers, sites catering to nerd girls are flourishing. Their must-see-Web-TV is GeekBrief.TV -- hosted by a make-up clad, pigtail-free geek whose recent posts salivate over a Qik private alpha test for iPhones, for example, trialing it, and finding bugs in it that are "exciting" to troubleshoot. And there's a survey polling readers about the best gadget stores, which ends in a colorful chart.

And of course, there's io9, a must-read news aggregator (that's part of the Gawker family), all about sci-fi gossip. Five of the 12 staff are women, including the top and assistant editors. It features important topics like whether Battlestar Galactica copied (and improved upon) Star Trek, how dystopian fiction can save the world and five lessons the Hulk should have learned from Hyde.


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Tyee contributing editor Vanessa Richmond writes the Schlock and Awe column about popular culture and the media.

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Been there, done that!
Posted by: frantaylor on Jun 21, 2008 12:14 AM   
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Happily married for years now and every day is just a blast!

Smart girls are the best.

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This may sound strange, but I think its because of porn
Posted by: Bobsays on Jun 21, 2008 3:22 AM   
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Nerds and geeks are very porn-aware. And they have learned from a young age via the internet to be sexually knowing. And part of that is being physically appealing. Smart kids now take being sexually appealing seriously.

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» I was thinking kinda the same thing Posted by: MartianBachelor
Divas with dorky degrees
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jun 21, 2008 4:50 AM   
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If those girls were as scientific as they think, why would they go to all of that trouble to prove something we already knew: that there are exceptions to the theory that there's an inverse relationship between brains and looks/dorkiness? And since there's only a handful of them, they're not really proving much except that they're the exception that proves the rule.

Doesn't anybody find this a bit vain, pretentious, and self-indulgent? God knows we have enough women with that combination.

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» RE: Divas with dorky degrees Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
This is a sexist article
Posted by: daniel347x on Jun 21, 2008 5:10 AM   
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Feminists have been struggling for many years so that women can participate in the workforce without being judged on the basis of their sexual attractiveness.

The author of this article embraces the sexist attitudes that have haunted the U.S. since women entered the workplace - that women are only acceptable in the workplace if they flaunt their sexuality - as though it's a legitimate question for debate.

The author makes light of this extremely serious issue by writing is this a post-feminist triumph? Or is it a return to the days of Mad Men, when lipstick, not ideas, was the most important thing to grace a woman's lips? The author emphasizes "post-feminist triumph", but makes light of the opposing "possibility" by trivializing it with the words "grace a woman's lips".

The author implicitly defends the sexism of her piece in the first sentence, saying After endless amounts of drool over sexy male nerds (like the recent NY Observer piece about male "nerds of steel," hailing the arrival of geeks who are buff). No serious feminist has ever argued that male sexuality is objectified to the point of female sexuality. The worthiness and character of men in the public and private realm has not been systematically approved or denied based on their sexual appearance. The implication that men have been judged based on their sexuality as much as women is a reactionary and sexist viewpoint that denies the efforts of generations of activists working to make it clear that this is not the case, and the article only gets away with it because it is written in a light-hearted vein.

The author writes But women have always had to get attention with their looks in order to get an audience for their smarts. The point the author makes, however, is that this could be just a wonderful thing! Beat the men at their own game by wrapping female sexuality up into things that have nothing to do with sexuality, including work life, and succeeding - at work - because of their sexuality.

When the ability of women to be hired for a job, have their work be taken seriously, receive a pay-raise, receive a promotion, or be on the inside circle is determined by their sexuality - as the author thinks is a reasonable issue for debate - this isn't progress, this is sexism. It's not up for debate.

The author rightly points out that sexy Gen X and Boomer science geeks who trail blazed have been bulldozed away in favor of those for whom they cleared the path, but then proceeds to applaud the so-called intention of the show to debunk the myth that a female engineer is a socially inept girl with no sense of style...by showing women being judged on the basis of their sexuality instead of their work! The myth that female engineers are socially inept with no sense of style is not a myth that has been created as a result of the progress women have made in the workplace, it's a myth that was created by reactionary forces that wanted to keep women out of the workplace. We don't need to counter that myth by bulldozing away women who aren't 'sexy' enough, which the author applauds the show for doing - even while decrying the fact that the show does it. The author fails to see the contradiction.

If an article debating whether it is a good thing when men in the workplace judge women based on their "beauty, not just their brains" were published on AlterNet, I suspect people would be rightly shocked. This article ain't different.

The author debates with herself: Then again, if we're all just being reminded, once again, that smart women get more male attention and career success if they wear high heels and makeup, then, please, call me when you've changed the channel from Mary Tyler Moore..

In my opinion it's not up for debate.

Dan Nissenbaum

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» Not that bad, surely Posted by: supercrisp
» RE: Not that bad, surely Posted by: daniel347x
» Dan Nissenbaum, Bravo! Posted by: Prairie Waif
» Well, DUH! Posted by: MartianBachelor
» RE: This is a sexist article Posted by: d_arnold
» RE: This is a sexist article Posted by: Zenobia
I can't believe
Posted by: ankhet on Jun 21, 2008 5:43 AM   
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...you blew two pages on this tripe.

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» RE: I can't believe Posted by: nochicagoboys
» RE: I can't believe Posted by: ankhet
Greta van Susteren
Posted by: Capitalist Pig on Jun 21, 2008 6:27 AM   
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Fox News has a smart and unhot female anchor.

Fair and Balanced!

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» RE: Greta van Susteren Posted by: Bobsays
» RE: Greta van Susteren Posted by: Dboy
Greta van Susteren
Posted by: Capitalist Pig on Jun 21, 2008 6:27 AM   
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Fox News has a smart and unhot female anchor.

Fair and Balanced!

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» RE: Greta van Susteren Posted by: rinkusen
» RE: Greta van Susteren Posted by: realmuzik
Always have been attracted to intelligence...
Posted by: QuestionAuthority on Jun 21, 2008 7:35 AM   
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I've always been attracted to intelligent women. "Geekettes?" I suppose, but that almost sounds insulting.

Who wants to hang with a dummy of either gender?
I'd rather be with an intelligent person, any day! I run into enough morons in my everyday life. Why would I want to spend time at home with one, and doG forbid, reproduce with one?!

Both our daughters got academic full-rides to college and are going for their Master's. Guess I made the right choice!

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Brains are more important than looks
Posted by: Sunfell on Jun 21, 2008 8:34 AM   
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I'm a female geek, and to be honest, I dislike the way these kids have 'sexed up' their image. It will not make their lives easier, because it is nearly impossible to be taken seriously if you are a 'hot' female.

Trust me, I know this from bitter experience. You might be able to think rings around your male peers, but if all they can see is your appearance, it won't matter. Sadly, it's an either/or sort of thing: you either use your head, or your body- because current culture will not permit you to use both. Maybe these girls might bust that barrier, but the telling thing will be the ones whose names come up in scientific journals, patents, corporations, etc. in 20 years.

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» EXACTLY Posted by: deborama
Sexy Nerds
Posted by: rerses on Jun 21, 2008 8:37 AM   
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Thankfully, a girl's IQ is as attractive as her bust size--the big ones will sag in middle age away, but a mind lasts a lifetime. I don't use the term nerd because it is pejorative; however, I have always found brainy women to be sexy. Give me a woman with a good mind, good sense of humor, sharp wit and glasses. I will choose her every time over a big breasted air-head. What do you do after the body and face age? Then you are left with an unattractive, empty-headed person.

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Don't tell your invisible sky master
Posted by: davesilvan on Jun 21, 2008 9:00 AM   
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But he doesn't exist. Please. Stop. I don't believe in god because I don't believe in the tooth fairy or the easter bunny or santa claus. They are myths. Fiction. They DO NOT EXIST. Please get it out of your head that primitives who knew nothing about anything found 'god.' They didn't. They thought the earth was flat and everything in the universe revolved around us. They were wrong about that, what makes you think they were right about 'god'? They were fables told to teach children things that they themselves didn't understand, so who did they claim made it happen? 'god'. Not a single book of the new testament was written until 80 years after jebus' death. How accurate do you think that makes it? AND if there's one thing Christ wasn't...it would be 'christian.' He was a jew.

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That's why god invented the 1 night stand?
Posted by: davesilvan on Jun 21, 2008 9:01 AM   
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(see title)

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Tyee Nerd Writers Drivel On!
Posted by: logansafi on Jun 21, 2008 9:32 AM   
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Yawn. Nerdettes? Yawn. Sexy Nerdettes? Yawn.

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» Not yawning. Posted by: yale
crow
Posted by: crow on Jun 21, 2008 9:55 AM   
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I have always preferred the stereotypical nerdy girl over every other. If you want a great conversation, and great physical intimacy its the only way to go. I feel "nerdy" girls are sexier,smarter,more compassionate,and giving than most.

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» RE: Wish I could meet some. Posted by: nightgaunt
nerdy girls were always sexy
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Jun 21, 2008 10:12 AM   
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...only took the author all this time to catch up.

jdfu!

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The love of my life has 3 masters degrees, 2 in chemistry
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Jun 21, 2008 10:51 AM   
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The brain is the biggest sex organ in the human body.

Stupid and uneducated women need not apply, no matter
what they look like.

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Not really
Posted by: Libsrule on Jun 21, 2008 11:45 AM   
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There is a huge difference between "nerdy" girls/women and smart intelligent girls/women.

The nerdy ones are still the ones who are socially unaware and maybe to other socially unaware men they are sexy, but not in the social norm way.

The smart intelligent ones are both socially aware and very intelligent.

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follow the money!!!
Posted by: athurlow on Jun 21, 2008 12:15 PM   
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nerds have become more "attractive," as their earning power has grown in our high-tech, info-based economy - the guy who might have been the loner who repaired things, now makes gazillions. As girls out-perform boys in school, more girls have to be able to pay for their own clothes & spa vacations.

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For those who dig nerdy girls may I suggest http://babeswithBooks.blogspot.com/
Posted by: yellow on Jun 21, 2008 12:16 PM   
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This is a hot website with some good links. It is not pornographic.

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Nerdy;of the nerd types. Some of us are handicapped in social intelligence.
Posted by: nightgaunt on Jun 21, 2008 12:48 PM   
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I am a male with the same problems. Probably genetic that is too uncommon to be successfully diagnosed when I was born. Social outcast that found myself with others like me in that great haven the library. However the bullies mostly stayed away. Show of fear brings them on. I still have trouble dealing with people. So give us a little sympathy won't you? Without proper functioning social intelligence it doesn't matter your creativity or your I.Q. people will tend to stay away. Consider you strange or odd. I have found that just the occiasional exceptional empathic person can be around me and not get angry or 'creeped out.'

Even if I wanted to reproduce I couldn't. From what I know I wouldn't want to now anyway.

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Tina Fey is just sexy
Posted by: leafsong1 on Jun 21, 2008 2:43 PM   
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Smart and funny have always been turn-ons. There is nothing new here.

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Ick
Posted by: Blondinista on Jun 21, 2008 2:49 PM   
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This article is just inconsequential bit of fluff, unworthy of alternet and more suited to one of those silly women's magazines. It celebrates the merging of two offensive female stereotypes -- the nerdy brain with the shallow bimbo. Most women I know a quite a bit more complex and multi-faceted than that. I will be happy when society stops shoving people into such narrow, suffocating pigeonholes.

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» RE: Ick Posted by: jingles
» RE: Ick Posted by: Blondinista
Great, now you're stealing our labels and turning them into kitschy pop culture trash
Posted by: blogbooks on Jun 21, 2008 3:11 PM   
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This is utterly ridiculous.

A sexy woman is a sexy woman is a sexy woman, no matter what she calls herself or if she wears glasses.

This reminds me of an argument I had as to whether or not it is possible to be a "car geek."

Cars are incredibly popular among men from all walks of life, therefore, they cannot be geeky.

Hot women are incredibly popular among men from all walks of life, therefore, they cannot be geeky.

"Nerd" and "geek" carry negative connotations and are derived directly from a rejection from mainstream society. Since when has mainstream popular culture rejected sexy women?

What am I missing here?

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» Paris Hilton is Smart? Posted by: BlueTigress
Let me tell you about a real nerd
Posted by: blogbooks on Jun 21, 2008 4:15 PM   
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I dual majored in philosophy and computer science.

I work as an information security analyst.

I have a security clearance (meaning I don't do drugs, have no criminal background, or any of that other "fun, interesting" stuff).

I play World of Warcraft.

I'm 40 pounds overweight, yet I know more about personal fitness and nutrition than most personal trainers.

I am part of that ~10% of Americans that can point out just about any nation on Earth on a blank map.

I read Nietzsche and Hegel for fun.

I wear big ugly glasses because they help me see better without obstructing my vision.

A conversation with me almost always involves words most Americans can't define.

I drive a crappy car, but I have money in the bank.

That's a real nerd.

Let me define someone that is NOT a nerd:

Majored in psychology, personal training, or other fluff

Works in a job that requires you to look good and talk fast more than producing any product of meaningful thought

Ineligible for security clearances because of past drug use and a few "childhood indiscretions" with the law.

Maybe has an Xbox and plays it 5 hours a month.

Is very fit, primarily thanks to good genetics.

Couldn't point out all 50 states on a map, let alone many foreign countries.

Has never heard of Nietzsche, despite having taken a mandatory philosophy class as a freshman.

Has a flashy car, and a huge debt load. Barely makes ends meet each month.

...Putting a pair of trendy, chic glasses on guy #2 does not a nerd make.

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» too bad you feel that way... Posted by: hurricane hugo
» Psych majors are a joke Posted by: blogbooks
What is the point of this article?
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jun 21, 2008 6:05 PM   
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People are different. So what?

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The best part of this article was associating Newsweek with porn
Posted by: PaulK on Jun 21, 2008 8:22 PM   
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Always try to say something positive about authors.

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a word of thanks to the guys on this post
Posted by: Zenobia on Jun 21, 2008 8:35 PM   
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Wow--this is the first time I have ever read responses to any article on Alternet that tries to be feminist (few actually meet the mark, in my opinion) where the vast majority of comments by guys are SUPPORTIVE and not misogynistic. --just wanted to say thank you, guys! Often I come away feeling so enraged, frustrated and hopeless about the state of humanity. Every time I swear I am never going back to Alternet...but I am a sucker for the visual layout.

Today I actually feel really encouraged. A little faith in humanity--and especially in manhood--is renewed in my heart.

Could it be that most of the guys--or those people saying they are guys-- that responded to this article are nerds themselves? If so, then I think any woman who overlooks nerd guys for love is missing out big time.

(My love is a nerd guy, and he is the most empathetic, beautiful, independent thinking human one can imagine.)

TAKE NOTE, GIRLFRIENDS! Nerd boys make the best and truest lovers (in my experience).

;)

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Nerdy girls have always hit my hot button. Caution: Geek porn!
Posted by: Longdream on Jun 21, 2008 9:58 PM   
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There is nothing as sexy as a technical woman. Give me a lovely computer geek. How about a prosecutor? Civil Engineer? Surgeon? Oh, baby--a statistician!

You know why? Because when those tech edges relax, it's a thing of beauty, a joy forever, an intimacy and a sort of....honor that they're relaxing with you.

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Nerdy girls have always hit my hot button. Caution: Geek porn!
Posted by: Longdream on Jun 21, 2008 9:58 PM   
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There is nothing as sexy as a technical woman. Give me a lovely computer geek. How about a prosecutor? Civil Engineer? Surgeon? Oh, baby--a statistician!

You know why? Because when those tech edges relax, it's a thing of beauty, a joy forever, an intimacy and a sort of....honor that they're relaxing with you.

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» RE: Ooops. Posted by: Longdream
What is a nerd?
Posted by: lamar on Jun 21, 2008 10:20 PM   
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I wonder when the term "nerd" went from meaning somebody who is socially awkward, unconcerned with vanity and obsessed with non-mainstream activities to describing somebody with glasses that's into computers or math.

If you ask me, "nerds" have simply become self-aware, keen to vanity and started aping indie-rock hipster style, thereby ceasing to be nerds.

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Well, Annalee Newitz does have a few connections.
Posted by: Byrodude on Jun 21, 2008 10:30 PM   
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She is the editor in chief of IO9.com (which is the best sci-fi blog on the web.) And just happens to be a contributing writer to this here Alternet.org! Probably should have mentioned that.

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Sexy = sexy
Posted by: blogbooks on Jun 21, 2008 10:40 PM   
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It has nothing to do with what you do for a living or what artifacts you choose to cloth your body in (to include glasses).

It's purely physical. Bring me a sexy woman and I don't care if she only speaks Russian and has never had a job other than washing dishes.

This article does portend a distressing trend - a bunch of hipster know-nothings trying to blend in with people that spent years of their lives studying math, computers, science, and other things.

Hopefully the hiring managers can see through a hipster in glasses to their vacuous soul and complete lack of productive knowledge.

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» RE: Sexy = sexy Posted by: ArtemInox
Ah labels
Posted by: talkville on Jun 22, 2008 1:54 AM   
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Types; categories; classes; groups; families; tribes; cells; cut-'em-up, slice 'em, dice 'em, make them write bad checks! Divvy up the whole every which way but loose. Label 'em good; it's a good market for label-makers and printers and organizers. Even for planners and schedulers. Give each of us as plethora of labels and images to gather ourselves under and band together as an Identifiable Group and then an Identifiable Individual. Brandish your particular Flag or Emblem. Is it perhaps these that trigger the erotic juices and energies a-flowing?

With all these Flags, Emblems, Images, and Labels, poor Eros has pretty much left the building, thrashed and pummeled and abused. Meanwhile, all over the place, more and more real and actual individuals, regardless of the Label, seem more distant, more self-absorbed, more 'objective' and clinical and 'rational' about things; more and more difficult to relate to. Less, well..... sexy.

"Love the one you're with... ."

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geeky means way unbalanced
Posted by: Anthhh on Jun 22, 2008 5:27 AM   
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This article is about A students and over-achievers.

A geek is a freak.

True Geeks are people is unbalanced in their ratio of IQ/Social skills..ie: she knows how to build a computer, but she is immature on many levels, and does not know how to fit in socially. She may not know that she is supposed to take care of her appearence. and behave a certain way that conforms to society...She cant be bothered, because she simply lacks the experience. That is what a true geek is.

She may be a genius, but at the same time she has NO social experience... She lives in the confines of very limited social interaction, and likes it there.
She can not imagine what most other people might think, and she does not think the way others think. Nor want to.

She has serious problems wither her social language skills. She is a social virgin. She is a weirdo. That is what a true geek is.


A little exposure to social experiences may or may not help her.



What this article is truly about is A-students.

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never mind
Posted by: Anthhh on Jun 22, 2008 5:32 AM   
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forget it

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Classist drivel
Posted by: theman on Jun 22, 2008 10:35 AM   
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I can’t stand classist articles like this. Many of us, both men and women, are poor, unemployed, are mentally or physical handicapped, or simply cannot socialize or function well in this capitalist society. Whether we are into sports or science fiction doesn’t mean anything. We are at the bottom, and we are alone. Whether a girl wearing glasses on the news can make it in the 2000’s is only important to women or men who are middle class. If you’re under that then grab any scrap you can.

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so the new " geek" when it comes to girls, means to be " traditional" high femme + smart?
Posted by: cherylsass123 on Jun 22, 2008 9:39 PM   
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interesting article, but what the author seems to be saying is this. the new girl geeks are supposed to be both smart [ scooby doo's thelma- whom was one of my childhood hotties :)] ; and also " pretty" in the make up face, high femme sense? huh, sounds like the same old sexist shit which was being said about hillary clinton and how she " didn't dress age/size appropriately" . personally, I have met many women formally educated women whom feel they are so smart, and compared to me who's slacked off and rebelled against this capitalist culture; truly seem to be " all put together". yet when it comes to being able to think for themselves and NOT care about what others think about the way they dress, walk,talk, etc; they place such a high value on living their lives in order to be accepted by others, fit into the greater, brain-dead community by adapting their "contemporary community values" unlike me whom is socially inadept and , many times, does not care and will do things like walk into the local supermarket wearing just a sports bra, shorts and flip flops; they seem to feel that they need to conform and make other's feel comfortable. so I guess part of being " smart and nerdy" is to have both the abliity to achieve; yet also conform to what the masses expect of you?

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