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"You Like That Baby, You Like That?": Has Porn Made Men Bad at Sex?
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Though I didn't know it at the time, I was fantastically lucky to have had a childhood during which my mother and father never called my penis a "wee wee." Similarly, vaginas were never demeaned as "hoo-hoos," or breasts as "boobies." Sex organs, sex and sexuality were topics of discussion early and intentionally in my house, whether I liked it or not. And looking back, I think that directness served me well. Certainly, it was mortifying on a grand scale to hear from my dad, a bawdy, gregarious guy, that my life began in his testicles. But that humiliation felt worth it when I was the only boy at recess who could effectively call bullshit on the theory that a baby is made when a man pees onto a woman's crotch.
In the ensuing decades, I've remained a voracious pursuer of sexual enlightenment, partially out of curiosity and partially out of my desire to impress a couple of girlfriends who were much more carnally knowledgeable than I. I'm no Lothario by any means, but I'm now smart enough to laugh at the absurdity of lad-mag articles recommending you slather your partner in baby oil in order to be "the best lover she's ever had." (Maybe if she's an unpolished end table, fellas.)
I also know not to take lessons on love — and the making of it — from porno. It should go without saying that films called Edward Penishands and Crack Whores of the Tenderloin serve purposes other than instruction, much like a sledgehammer isn't for setting nails. Yet twice in the past few months I've come across arguments to the contrary. Amid the pages of the September issue of Details was the article "How Internet Porn Is Changing Teen Sex," in which writer Eric Spitznagel quoted a young man barely able to drink legally as saying, "Pubic hair is disgusting. Girls should keep their vaginas porn-star trim." Elsewhere,in a recent column on Salon.com, Mary Elizabeth Williams detailed the obnoxious, belittling effect pornography has had on her sex life: "'You like that, baby? You like that?' he asked, though he didn't notice I wasn't answering. And then, somewhere around the 18th time he said it, it hit me — I wasn't just having bad sex. I was having bad porn sex."
Blame it on the ease with which any plugged-in American can access porn of all types, from amateur to violent to bestial. Across the country, sexually active straight men of all ages are taking bedroom cues from skin flicks, getting wrongheaded ideas about how women's bodies should look and bad information about what's sexy. Subsequently, they're pissing off — and, according to Williams, smacking their erections on — their lovers.
That all being said, you might assume women don't like porn. You'd be wrong. According to a 2007 Nielsen survey, a third of people visiting XXX websites were female, with almost thirteen million women admitting to looking at Internet porn at least once a month. And physiologically, men and women differ little in their response to pornographic images. One 2006 McGill University study found that females shown porn clips reached maximum arousal just one minute after their male counterparts, while both genders began displaying signs of arousal within thirty seconds of exposure. Dick-smacking aside, there's definitely something women appreciate about porno, so there must be something men looking to please those women can learn from. The question is, what?
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Posted by: moloko velocet on Nov 28, 2009 6:05 AM
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"Porn" would be totally unnesessary...and would probably be only a minor niche business today.
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Posted by: MartianBachelor on Nov 28, 2009 6:24 AM
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Partly because men's attraction to porn is not based on some desire to be better lovers. But also because, contrary to some residual men's fear, women do not weigh one man against another and choose the most virile or "best" (most proficient) lover. Women just don't tend to think in such male terms, so a guy trying to base his appeal on his expertise in this area is likely to be barking up the wrong tree. In fact, part of the appeal of porn is that the women in it are often quite different from actual women in this regard.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 28, 2009 6:43 AM
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At least you could hold off on the open, inexcusable sexism until the second page.
Try reversing the gender roles in this paragraph, author... then NEVER say anything as unbelievably sexist as this again in your life.
And Alternet... enough with the anti-porn articles already. Most of your readers do not agree with your anti-porn bias.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 28, 2009 6:46 AM
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And what is it this culture tells us to be? Consumers, of course. Its not that open about it... but that is the message.
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Nov 28, 2009 7:08 AM
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Even leaving romance entirely out of the picture, even if it is strictly a one night stand kind of encounter, simply getting naked and ramming it in and out for a minute or so, just ain't gonna cut it. It has also been my experience that if the first time is lousy for her there ain't likely to be a second time, in the vast majority of cases.
Also, in a majority of cases, if you start grabbing a lot in the beginning, you'll put her on the defensive and get nowhere fast.
Porn has it's uses, however. If you are "good to go" more than once a night, it is a good idea (when on a first date) to watch it before the date and masturbate, so as not to be too pushy and quick on the trigger - unless you are with the unusual woman who wants exactly that.
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Posted by: Richardsievert on Nov 28, 2009 7:35 AM
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You fuckers that think your wise you never seen anything like me.
You people that love keep loving' You that sell it go "To the hell your from'
To harm a beast you cut of it's head.
There is nothing wrong with a man and a woman loving' Just look at what Christ said.
That's right there is nothing you can say about this because most of it is lies' Lust is for sale and sex is free' you ignorant Christians and foolish satanic men that practice celibacy your all liars and your end is with the nothing you are.
Christ loved women and men not for sex but for the love he gave as a sacrifice for being born of a god.
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Nov 28, 2009 8:55 AM
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Govt statements are porn.
fox noise is PORN.
The fundies ways are porn.
Veggies are porn.
A definition of "porn" is obscene literature.
How perfectly fitting for much of the garbage the above tries to pawn off on us as legitimate.
I'm a straight, single, real life guy who has worn down the sidewalk due to being around the block so many times.
I sometimes watch porn.
One major thing about porn which I really enjoy either alone or with friends of both genders is how comical most of it is.
Those people who I choose to have as friends are mature, intelligent, self confident, independent people.
We are able to laugh FIRSTLY at ourselves and at life in general.
Due to those truths,, we also do laugh at whatever porn we may watch.
Besides all that, I am a guy whose attitudes toward sex are NEVER determined by watching porn.
Nothing about it is sufficiently legitimate to lead me to believe that anything in my REAL sex life would be like that.
This is just another in the long long list of trashy articles by alterflakynet to draw attention to their advertisers.
It is typical garbage qand has NOTHING to do with real life.
Those who actually ARE influenced by porn are not the sorts of people whom my friends and I seek to be around.
My/our typical response to the vast majority of articles here is:
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Posted by: Jackrabbit on Nov 28, 2009 10:30 AM
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Seriously, if a guy wants to be a good lover he will be. It takes a combination of sensitivity, chemistry, communication, and aggressiveness that a man will work at with his lover/s or he won't. Porn may or may not help, but it is so inconsequential when juxtaposed with the multivariate elements required to be successful in bed. And inconsequential is exactly what this article is. Can we please put a moratorium on moronic articles like this that tout the authors sexual acumen at the expense of the rest of us know-nothing joes? Snore.
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Posted by: peter g on Nov 28, 2009 10:41 AM
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Ask a prostitute about everything else.
Done.
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Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Nov 28, 2009 2:16 PM
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What does the author of the article expect? Same-gender porn is the LAST thing that most heterosexual men will watch. They sure as hall won't watch gay-male porn, but they're just as unlikely to watch lesbian porn, either -- their homophobia is THAT strong.
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» free porn destroys the fact you have to pay imploding in it's own black whole'
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Posted by: Richardsievert on Nov 28, 2009 7:14 PM
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Now we have large numbers of women that have to compete with this Barbi doll syndrome and the ken doll ball star also, You have watched porn there's one thing there goal is to do and that is to come.
If we can get large quantities of people to stop going because of the free alternative then less will go buy them in the market. Sex is and Industry it's the most lucrative diverse and flexible one's there is. Only by letting people serve themselves' Will it ever once again be a sacred thing that two people do in the privacy of there home. That's the way It was intended to be.
"To Be free all along'
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Posted by: Bakari on Nov 28, 2009 10:04 PM
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Personally, while I understand that porn is just as much exploited and sexist as other forms of popular culture (mainly because it’s a business in a capitalist society, which destroys everything!) I think people can have a healthy view of porn and use constructively. What makes it difficult for most us porn watchers is that it’s not socially acceptable, though it’s a multi-billion industry. Plus, most of the world just wants to keep sex and porn in the bedroom, but attack it publicly. It’s all so hypocritical.
Personally, I like amateur porn in which men and women seem to be enjoying themselves. They’re not making a video to get rich, but they want to share their passion. Some of the most popular sites on the net now days are ones that include amateur porn. And yes, it’s also being exploited. But that doesn’t mean it can be enjoyed like watching anything else in the media.
And I don’t think I objectify my wife just because I watch porn. I try to be as caring and affectionate in our love making as I possibly can. I don’t view her as some porn actress, because she’s obviously not. But we both know that I have a stronger sex drive than she does, and so I use porn for sexual self-release. In other words, I masturbate to it. And quite frankly, I get tired about feeling guilty about it. I think it’s a shame in this late date in human history that women publicly exposing their breasts is against the law in many states. It’s even more a shame that so much about sex is taboo.
So as for how and why men treat women a certain way is far more complex than what this article attempts to share. It doesn’t even scratch the service. And I also don’t think men should always be blamed when it comes to problems inherent to heterosexual relations. Heterosexual men and woman are hard wired differently by nature, and we need to respect that. Plus, our understanding of sex is still evolving. We’re still almost like kids when it comes to sex. We can barely talk about it openly. We’re often made to feel ashamed about it, and most of us never get enough it.
But anyway, I’ve said. At least this article has provoked much needed discussion.
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o', whip us, Alternet! Whip us hard! Make us want to cum. NOT!
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Posted by: Rebelmom on Nov 29, 2009 10:59 PM
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Young people are especially messed up from what my daughter tells me. She has been raised overly-informed about sex and as a result she's very open with me: I've heard way too many lame stories about disrespectful boys, girls who are disrespectful of themselves(and other girls regarding sexual exploits) and the overall mechanical attitude about girl's and boy's(aka men's and women's)sexuality. It's the kids who aren't spoken to, who do what you MEN are talking about doing(porn addiction) that will change the sexual and social mores of the future generations. Just listen to any pop song, it's all about sexual gratification, objectifying women and men, group sex, bitches, and just today I heard snoop dogg basically giving a play by play of his latest sexual conquest.
Tell me this isn't different than when we were growing up? Just think about it. Pretend your 13 and going to Jr. high tomorrow morning. What's permeating the brains of the kids around you? Hmmmm not much room for love and kindness unless you're "shaved like a pornstar". Believe me, this is NO exaggeration. I actually feel bad for America's youth right now. It's intense to be a kid in this world.
Leave Alternet alone and don't read any articles about sex here if you don't like what they say. :-P
Keep up the great work alternet. I want more articles like this. I actually check in to see what you have under "sex and relationships" regualarly.
btw. I watch porn and I like it because it's not real, but we women like sex just as much as men! Derrr....
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OK, so it wasn't a brilliant question, but he did at least ask!
If you refuse to answer and wait for him to "notice", at least try not to
blame him for the bad sex, publicly, under your full name, for money.
He's an aroused man, not a mind reader.
And it may be true that too many
men know only about porn sex, but how will that improve
while too many women only believe in romantic sex
(where a truly sensitive man will instinctively
know exactly what you like without any discussion)?
That it's better to suffer, smirk, or yawn in silence than speak your
mind?
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Dec 7, 2009 11:16 PM
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This doubtless well-meaning study had to be canceled before it even started.
They couldn't find any men who hadn't viewed porn.
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"Porn" would be totally unnesessary...and would probably be only a minor niche business today.
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Partly because men's attraction to porn is not based on some desire to be better lovers. But also because, contrary to some residual men's fear, women do not weigh one man against another and choose the most virile or "best" (most proficient) lover. Women just don't tend to think in such male terms, so a guy trying to base his appeal on his expertise in this area is likely to be barking up the wrong tree. In fact, part of the appeal of porn is that the women in it are often quite different from actual women in this regard.
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At least you could hold off on the open, inexcusable sexism until the second page.
Try reversing the gender roles in this paragraph, author... then NEVER say anything as unbelievably sexist as this again in your life.
And Alternet... enough with the anti-porn articles already. Most of your readers do not agree with your anti-porn bias.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 28, 2009 6:46 AM
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And what is it this culture tells us to be? Consumers, of course. Its not that open about it... but that is the message.
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Nov 28, 2009 7:08 AM
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Even leaving romance entirely out of the picture, even if it is strictly a one night stand kind of encounter, simply getting naked and ramming it in and out for a minute or so, just ain't gonna cut it. It has also been my experience that if the first time is lousy for her there ain't likely to be a second time, in the vast majority of cases.
Also, in a majority of cases, if you start grabbing a lot in the beginning, you'll put her on the defensive and get nowhere fast.
Porn has it's uses, however. If you are "good to go" more than once a night, it is a good idea (when on a first date) to watch it before the date and masturbate, so as not to be too pushy and quick on the trigger - unless you are with the unusual woman who wants exactly that.
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Posted by: Richardsievert on Nov 28, 2009 7:35 AM
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You fuckers that think your wise you never seen anything like me.
You people that love keep loving' You that sell it go "To the hell your from'
To harm a beast you cut of it's head.
There is nothing wrong with a man and a woman loving' Just look at what Christ said.
That's right there is nothing you can say about this because most of it is lies' Lust is for sale and sex is free' you ignorant Christians and foolish satanic men that practice celibacy your all liars and your end is with the nothing you are.
Christ loved women and men not for sex but for the love he gave as a sacrifice for being born of a god.
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Posted by: dumdumboy on Nov 28, 2009 8:26 AM
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Nov 28, 2009 8:55 AM
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Govt statements are porn.
fox noise is PORN.
The fundies ways are porn.
Veggies are porn.
A definition of "porn" is obscene literature.
How perfectly fitting for much of the garbage the above tries to pawn off on us as legitimate.
I'm a straight, single, real life guy who has worn down the sidewalk due to being around the block so many times.
I sometimes watch porn.
One major thing about porn which I really enjoy either alone or with friends of both genders is how comical most of it is.
Those people who I choose to have as friends are mature, intelligent, self confident, independent people.
We are able to laugh FIRSTLY at ourselves and at life in general.
Due to those truths,, we also do laugh at whatever porn we may watch.
Besides all that, I am a guy whose attitudes toward sex are NEVER determined by watching porn.
Nothing about it is sufficiently legitimate to lead me to believe that anything in my REAL sex life would be like that.
This is just another in the long long list of trashy articles by alterflakynet to draw attention to their advertisers.
It is typical garbage qand has NOTHING to do with real life.
Those who actually ARE influenced by porn are not the sorts of people whom my friends and I seek to be around.
My/our typical response to the vast majority of articles here is:
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Posted by: linecrosser on Nov 28, 2009 10:20 AM
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Posted by: Jackrabbit on Nov 28, 2009 10:30 AM
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Seriously, if a guy wants to be a good lover he will be. It takes a combination of sensitivity, chemistry, communication, and aggressiveness that a man will work at with his lover/s or he won't. Porn may or may not help, but it is so inconsequential when juxtaposed with the multivariate elements required to be successful in bed. And inconsequential is exactly what this article is. Can we please put a moratorium on moronic articles like this that tout the authors sexual acumen at the expense of the rest of us know-nothing joes? Snore.
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Posted by: peter g on Nov 28, 2009 10:41 AM
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Ask a prostitute about everything else.
Done.
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Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Nov 28, 2009 2:16 PM
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What does the author of the article expect? Same-gender porn is the LAST thing that most heterosexual men will watch. They sure as hall won't watch gay-male porn, but they're just as unlikely to watch lesbian porn, either -- their homophobia is THAT strong.
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Posted by: Chosen on Nov 28, 2009 6:37 PM
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» free porn destroys the fact you have to pay imploding in it's own black whole'
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Posted by: Richardsievert on Nov 28, 2009 7:14 PM
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Now we have large numbers of women that have to compete with this Barbi doll syndrome and the ken doll ball star also, You have watched porn there's one thing there goal is to do and that is to come.
If we can get large quantities of people to stop going because of the free alternative then less will go buy them in the market. Sex is and Industry it's the most lucrative diverse and flexible one's there is. Only by letting people serve themselves' Will it ever once again be a sacred thing that two people do in the privacy of there home. That's the way It was intended to be.
"To Be free all along'
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Posted by: Bakari on Nov 28, 2009 10:04 PM
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Personally, while I understand that porn is just as much exploited and sexist as other forms of popular culture (mainly because it’s a business in a capitalist society, which destroys everything!) I think people can have a healthy view of porn and use constructively. What makes it difficult for most us porn watchers is that it’s not socially acceptable, though it’s a multi-billion industry. Plus, most of the world just wants to keep sex and porn in the bedroom, but attack it publicly. It’s all so hypocritical.
Personally, I like amateur porn in which men and women seem to be enjoying themselves. They’re not making a video to get rich, but they want to share their passion. Some of the most popular sites on the net now days are ones that include amateur porn. And yes, it’s also being exploited. But that doesn’t mean it can be enjoyed like watching anything else in the media.
And I don’t think I objectify my wife just because I watch porn. I try to be as caring and affectionate in our love making as I possibly can. I don’t view her as some porn actress, because she’s obviously not. But we both know that I have a stronger sex drive than she does, and so I use porn for sexual self-release. In other words, I masturbate to it. And quite frankly, I get tired about feeling guilty about it. I think it’s a shame in this late date in human history that women publicly exposing their breasts is against the law in many states. It’s even more a shame that so much about sex is taboo.
So as for how and why men treat women a certain way is far more complex than what this article attempts to share. It doesn’t even scratch the service. And I also don’t think men should always be blamed when it comes to problems inherent to heterosexual relations. Heterosexual men and woman are hard wired differently by nature, and we need to respect that. Plus, our understanding of sex is still evolving. We’re still almost like kids when it comes to sex. We can barely talk about it openly. We’re often made to feel ashamed about it, and most of us never get enough it.
But anyway, I’ve said. At least this article has provoked much needed discussion.
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Posted by: Bakari on Nov 28, 2009 10:19 PM
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Nov 29, 2009 3:48 PM
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Posted by: logansafi on Nov 29, 2009 5:49 PM
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o', whip us, Alternet! Whip us hard! Make us want to cum. NOT!
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Posted by: Rebelmom on Nov 29, 2009 10:59 PM
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Young people are especially messed up from what my daughter tells me. She has been raised overly-informed about sex and as a result she's very open with me: I've heard way too many lame stories about disrespectful boys, girls who are disrespectful of themselves(and other girls regarding sexual exploits) and the overall mechanical attitude about girl's and boy's(aka men's and women's)sexuality. It's the kids who aren't spoken to, who do what you MEN are talking about doing(porn addiction) that will change the sexual and social mores of the future generations. Just listen to any pop song, it's all about sexual gratification, objectifying women and men, group sex, bitches, and just today I heard snoop dogg basically giving a play by play of his latest sexual conquest.
Tell me this isn't different than when we were growing up? Just think about it. Pretend your 13 and going to Jr. high tomorrow morning. What's permeating the brains of the kids around you? Hmmmm not much room for love and kindness unless you're "shaved like a pornstar". Believe me, this is NO exaggeration. I actually feel bad for America's youth right now. It's intense to be a kid in this world.
Leave Alternet alone and don't read any articles about sex here if you don't like what they say. :-P
Keep up the great work alternet. I want more articles like this. I actually check in to see what you have under "sex and relationships" regualarly.
btw. I watch porn and I like it because it's not real, but we women like sex just as much as men! Derrr....
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Posted by: jparsons on Dec 4, 2009 11:20 PM
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OK, so it wasn't a brilliant question, but he did at least ask!
If you refuse to answer and wait for him to "notice", at least try not to
blame him for the bad sex, publicly, under your full name, for money.
He's an aroused man, not a mind reader.
And it may be true that too many
men know only about porn sex, but how will that improve
while too many women only believe in romantic sex
(where a truly sensitive man will instinctively
know exactly what you like without any discussion)?
That it's better to suffer, smirk, or yawn in silence than speak your
mind?
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Dec 7, 2009 11:16 PM
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This doubtless well-meaning study had to be canceled before it even started.
They couldn't find any men who hadn't viewed porn.
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