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What Happened When I Legally Exposed My Breasts in Public
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This article was originally published on Nerve.com.
Experiment: Under New York state law, all chests are created equal: both men and women can go topless in public, provided you expose your breasts in a manner "neither lewd nor intended to annoy or harass." On a hot summer day, would going topless in a public park prove empowering, or would I get burned?
Hypothesis: Guys do it all the time, and the law says I have the right to bare breasts. Moving this equal right from theory to practice should be just as relaxing as any other afternoon in Central Park.
Materials:
Breasts (literally)
Public Park
Balls (figuratively)
Method:
Even though I knew the law was on my side, female toplessness still felt like the medical marijuana of the east coast: legal but somehow illicit. I was nervous as hell the morning of my experiment. Even worse, I couldn’t decide what to wear. I settled on gym shorts and a tank top, with a nice bra underneath since everyone would be seeing it. It was like getting ready for a hot date: I was apprehensive, flustered and had already decided how naked I'd get by the end of the night.
I promised a day of sunshine and laughs (perhaps at my expense) to two friends/bodyguards, and we arrived at the Sheep's Meadow in Central Park with blankets, books, and my boobs. The clearing was packed with sunbathers; although no one was topless, there were a rainbow of skimpy bikinis and skin across the lawn. We claimed a clear patch of land and, far sooner than I would have liked, it was time to take off my top. "Here," my friend Jim offered, removing his own shirt, "I'll do it too."
Easy for him to say, he’s been doing this for decades, I thought as I pulled off my tank top. So far, so good, but still nervous as hell. I thought perhaps I could ease into the public nudity by acting like I was sun-bathing. I lay on my stomach and removed my bra, and rested a moment, thinking feminist and empowered thoughts. We were making progress, but I couldn't hide face-down all day.
So I sat up. My hand instinctively grasped my breasts for modesty, my bosom spilling over my fingertips. I didn’t want to let go. "I'm gonna do it. I'm just gonna remove my hand," I said to no one in particular.
And then I did.
Results:
There they were — in the sunlight, the eyes of God and New York Penal Law 245.01 — my boobs out, nipples blazing. The girls sitting on the blanket next to us giggled. Some passersby glanced over, smiles on a couple of the guys' faces. My nipple ring glinted in the sun. Amazingly, I felt relatively calm. Warm. Neither lightning nor cops had struck me down. Furtively looking around, I noticed some guys attempting to be respectful. Maybe they were just thinking be cool or she'll put her top back on, but gentlemen would glance over and grin, but rarely stare. No one cat-called or made lewd comments. So many people were showing skin, and it was so hot, my toplessness didn't feel like a big deal.
Five minutes in, however, my skin was sizzling. The Irish were not made to be a topless people. Rubbing SPF 15 onto my nipples made me feel a little dirty — and a little silly for bringing only SPF 15. I tried to chat with my friends, but I found it hard to concentrate. More and more people were looking over at me, and when everyone's staring at you, you can't look anywhere for fear of making awkward eye contact. I may have been topless, but I was still shy. It's not common for me to make eye contact with strangers. It's even less likely if they're staring at my tits or taking pictures with their iPhones.
Three sunscreen applications later, my girlfriend Megan pointed out, "The trouble with sun bathing is I'm already bored. I want to get a hot dog or something." A quick scan revealed a hot-dog stand at the corner of the Sheep's Meadow, just outside the fence marking the lawn's border. I didn't know what would happen if we left the sanctuary. But for hungry, topless women everywhere, I would find out.
Sunbathing topless was one thing, but walking through the masses with my nips out was a new kind of topless entirely: moving topless. The closer we got to the edge of the field, the more agitated I became. I was attracting significantly more attention now that I was in motion, and I became overwhelmed with the idea that crossing onto asphalt would induce some sort of mini-apocalypse. The hot dog cart, however, was only feet outside the meadow. And the law was on my side.
Barreling on, tunnel vision guided me to the stand. I didn't breathe as I stepped off the grass onto the concrete. I let my eyes unfocus; if I couldn't see them, they couldn't see me.
Waiting in line, the couple behind me discussed public exposure: "Oh yeah, it's legal. There was that court case in '92. If guys can do it, so can women." Just knowing that a couple random people on the street knew the legality of my actions eased my anxiety. However, these were only two people. Joggers, dog walkers and couples on dates all glanced my way, and now it was my turn to order a phallic symbol — with just ketchup, please.
The guy behind the stand started yelling at his coworker in a language I couldn't speak. His coworker came over and gave him some change, but I knew that was just a ruse to check out the boobs ordering a hot dog. He thanked me as he handed me my change and thanked me even more when I left him a tip. I guess it doesn't get any better than a topless chick giving you a couple of singles for your trouble.
Topless hot-dog consumption felt only slightly less pervy than massaging sunscreen into my breasts. Megan put on her sunglasses and whispered, "I keep worrying that people are staring at us, but then I realize they're just staring at you." I was turning pink, both from the sun and the stares, so Megan and I decided to use the facilities and call it a day. Unfortunately the bathroom, like the hot dog stand, was outside the sweet confines of the lawn. As I strode towards the restrooms, a Frisbee hit me in the ankle. I picked it up and handed it to a man who made very steady eye contact and did not glance down for a second. He smiled at me and said, "Be careful." I gave him a genuine smile back.
The smile faded as soon as we saw the comically long wait for the ladies' room. I asked the woman at the end if it was the line for the bathroom; she looked at my breasts through her sunglasses, but didn't respond. I asked another girl, and she said yes, also staring at my boobs.
I would have thought that women, used to having men stare at their cleavage, would be more subtle when they checked out a woman's chest. But the ladies in line weren't subtle, nor were they polite. I heard murmurs about breasts and "that girl." If I turned toward the whispering and offered a nervous smile, all I got in return was the lady in question looking away or continuing to whisper to her friend. I hid behind my bag as much as possible.
I was almost to the front of the line when a cop walked past. His back was to me, but my mind was racing. I was suddenly paranoid that what was legal in the meadow was a crime at public restrooms. The cop was almost past us, but I was terrified that one of the whispering women would tattle on me. I was only three ladies away from getting into a stall and peeing in peace, then two more steps, then one…
Just inside the door, I heard, "Ma'am, I'm sorry but you need to put a top on. If an officer sees you, that's a summons." A cool and collected park employee stood in the women's restroom with a mop and bucket. "Oh!" I fumbled in my bag for my top, "Thank you!" I was flustered. I was blushing. I felt like a scolded child, even though my bare chest pretty blatantly indicated I was a grown woman. "It's fine if you're sunbathing," she explained without scorn, "but if you're walking around, you have to wear a top."
I breathed another "Thank you!" and pulled my tank on as my heart beat in my throat. The women around me were validated, and their whispering returned in full-force. I couldn't get in or out of the bathroom fast enough. Back outside, I waited for Megan awkwardly while the line of women continued to stare, some even bolder now that my nipples were tucked away.
When Megan finally made it out, it was time to take my titties home. It wasn't until I was hopping down the stairs of the subway that I realized my mistake: I'd never put my bra back on. As I rode the train home, I rested my breasts on my tote and willed my nipples not to get hard.
Conclusion:
Being carefree and topless was incredibly stressful. Perhaps with every right comes responsibility, but between sunburns and smack-talk, I found toplessness exhausting.
Other women's scorn was by far the most disconcerting thing I experienced that day. I went into the experiment naively thinking that since female toplessness is legal, it would be akin to smoking a cigarette in public: offensive to some, but as long as I didn’t blow smoke in anyone’s face (or ask anyone to motorboat me), no big deal. I was just looking to take advantage of all New York City has to offer, like twenty-four-hour subways or the tram to Roosevelt Island. I wasn't flirting with anyone, I wasn't doing anything to draw attention to myself — except dressing like a guy on a hot summer day. But it was certain ladies who couldn't handle it.
On one hand I'm glad I moved beyond my fears. (Public speaking will be cake from now on.) But I don't foresee any further topless sunbathing in my future, at least not if I go it alone. Perhaps I'll try once more on National GoTopless Day. It might be an enjoyable experience if I were surrounded by hundreds of other casually topless women. In fact, it might just be the relaxing, bare-chested summer day my male counterparts take for granted.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Aug 28, 2009 8:25 PM
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Posted by: St. Luke on Aug 29, 2009 1:23 AM
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Men, at least the ones who are trying to seem halfway respectable, have a lot of training in checking out women without seeming to do so. Since our early teenage years we have been practicing this subtle art. I dare say I could have a conversation with a completely naked woman and never once look away from her face, at least until she turned her head.
Women, on the other hand, have no such training. They may know what it's like to be ogled, but they don't know how to restrain their natural impulse to ogle themselves. Thus, in situations like this one, their behavior is much more blatant.
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» haha so true!
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» preach it, my brother!
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» RE: Staring at Boobs
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Posted by: progressive-life on Aug 29, 2009 6:05 AM
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https://www.jordanmatter.com/previewUncovered.asp - both male and female
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» RE: Uncovered!
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» Only if you consider the appearance of others to be for YOUR sexual benefit.
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» But Usually, Photos of Women *are* for selling sex
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» I Thought They All Looked Great
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Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Aug 29, 2009 8:19 AM
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Every time someone like you whips their top off in public, you nudge America's warped mores concerning women's breasts a tiny bit toward normalcy. I hope we will reach the point where it will not seem unusual for women to sunbathe, sit, stand, dance, jog, play or (gasp) walk around topless on a given sunny day - any place they damn well please. Which means anywhere that doesn't have a "no shirts, no service" sign.
When you can show your boobs without being characterized as slutty, then maybe women can comfortably feed their children in public.
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» RE: Good for you Meghan! You saved me some trouble.
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Aug 29, 2009 10:10 AM
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Now my wife is pregnant and planning to breast feed our child. Not sure how we'll handle that in public. Per her wishes, of course, whatever they may be.
I personally never found breastfeeding erotic, but always loved to watch - felt honored to be allowed to watch, in fact - because it's one of the most beautiful things in nature to see.
Just remember - naked is natural. Only the Puritan perverts in our society could have ever made it seem anything else.
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» All great but what has it to do with Palestine, Iraq War, The Federal Reserve or health care reform?
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» Double standard: okay to look, not to photograph
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Posted by: foreverhope on Aug 30, 2009 5:50 PM
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Load the car and write the note.
Grab your bag and grab your coat.
Tell the ones that need to know.
We are headed north.
One foot in and one foot back.
But it don’t pay to live like that.
So I cut the ties and I jumped the track.
For never to return.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
When at first I learned to speak.
I used all my words to fight.
With him and her and you and me.
Ahh, but it's just a waste of time.
Yeah it’s such a waste of time.
That woman she’s got eyes that shine.
Like a pair of stolen polished dimes.
She asked to dance I said it’s fine.
I’ll see you in the morning time.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
What you were than I am today.
Look at the things I do.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Dumbed down and numbed by time and age.
You’re dreams that catch the world the cage.
The highway sets the travelers stage.
All exits look the same.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
Three words that became hard to say.....
I and Love and You...........................
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Posted by: John Annis on Aug 31, 2009 4:11 AM
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Silly boy. Back to your internet porn.
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» i think kevin's a bot
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Posted by: Sideliner on Aug 31, 2009 3:29 AM
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You want to go topless, go topless. In the end, few people would care. But if you walk around, then you are in fact flaunting it, shoving it, in people's faces, including people from other cultures who do care. And for what purpose? Just to write an essay and get it "published" online?
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» RE: "shoving it, in people's faces"
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» RE: Pretty silly
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» Funny... bare ankles were considered a temptation to sin...
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» everything's a temptation to sin
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Posted by: rugger on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 AM
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And that goes for women AND men! HAHA!
Some men should get summonses for going bare chested
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Posted by: wagner on Aug 31, 2009 6:01 AM
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» not really
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Posted by: lalala on Aug 31, 2009 6:32 AM
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Posted by: SayBlade on Aug 31, 2009 6:53 AM
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http://www.fcn.ca/Gwen.html
By the way, why is this under the topic Reproductive Justice on this site? It should be under Rights.
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Aug 31, 2009 6:55 AM
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The total rottenness of the Middle-Eastern religions is in their insistence that we should be ashamed of what their Gawd gave us for physical form. I wear as little as possible in the summer, even in public places, and tell the old devils that my body is nothing to be ashamed of, and that if their bodies are shameful, not to make it my problem.
Another reason for oppression of women: our tits are bigger than any darned balls!
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Posted by: mainspark on Aug 31, 2009 7:03 AM
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Instead, why not Human Rights, or Health?
Oh, those pesky Puritans...
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» Right, it's the "Living" section of AlterNet!
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Aug 31, 2009 7:15 AM
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"and now it was my turn to order a phallic symbol".
It is VERY CLEAR that, those with twisted, sexually obsessed minds see EVERYTHING as a "phallic symbol".
A goddamn hot dog is just THAT~~a hotdog.
What is it with the sexually obsessed/repressed who cannot and/or CHOOSE to not see reality.
For those who are not too damn lazy to actually check it out, those with this sick obsession are females in the majority.
The see cocks EVERYWHERE!!
A hot dog is a hot dog is a hot dog as is the Washington monument.
These dick obsessed wackos undermine any/all legitimacy they might have had when they start with this crap.
I'm a straight guy and do NOT see tits everywhere.
Why do they see cocks everywhere?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
BTW-the article was boring.
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» Humor, Ever Heard Of It?
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» You have to WANT to see cocks and tits everywhere, or...
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» RE: my gods, you're judgmental.
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» People Don't Get Shrieking Pissed-Off By Stuff They Find "Boring"
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 31, 2009 8:20 AM
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Aug 31, 2009 9:49 AM
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Darn...
It's going to be a long time before this will not be viewed as controversial and I hope I see the day in my lifetime. You wimmings got it all over us guys in the aesthetics department and there are so few who are able to appreciate that without either thinking (or getting, PUNNY!)) too hard about it.
Long term exposure is the only way to desensitize the issue.
Seeing what real breasts look like might make American men more normal and stop the insane fixation on cartoon size fake breasts.
Thats a day I look forward to.
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» Amen!
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Posted by: texasaggie on Aug 31, 2009 11:11 AM
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Posted by: Old Skeptic on Aug 31, 2009 12:39 PM
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Why anyone would want to go naked puzzles me, though. Frankly, even a "10" looks pretty weird with the patterns from woven cloth, or grass and twigs embossed on their bare skin. And when it comes to furniture, do you really want to put a bare bottom where someone else's bare bottom sat just before you? There are good reasons for clothing beyond puritanism and protection from the weather.
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 31, 2009 2:44 PM
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On the men's side of the bathroom, almost all men put their hands on their penises and hold them out where other men can see them for maybe 30 seconds, including a little shaking of their genitalia at the end. This isn't obscene. Nor is penis-handling considered dangerous to public hygiene, as opposed to women baring their chests in the women's bathroom, which probably spreads some dread disease, so that the parks department must intervene on the women's side for the greater public good.
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» Shirts and shoes
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Posted by: Jdog on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM
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Well, it isn't THAT bad, but I am self conscious about it. So ladies...Let those beauties show and give us mishapen men the courage to join you!
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Aug 31, 2009 4:15 PM
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And what a brilliant display of feminist intellectual gravitas! How can anyone not marvel at the pure, Socratic, genius of the woman who contributes such wondrous science as this!
Does anyone remember how it was little kids - four or five or so - who stood along the street's edge and "mooned" passing cars? Should we have published on a forum like AlterNet their stories and photos?
How is it that any supposed "minority," feminist - or ideologue in general otherise who can string together five words more or less coherently - must be given a public forum? Who is it that chooses to publish this kind of daffy distaff drivel?
Ah, well - who has ever seen a man buy a tabloid, "celebrity," or gossip magazine? How many men watch Nancy Grace? I guess we all know what drives television and movie ratings; but did we not, this sort of thing would tell us everything we need to know in deciding why is is published.
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Posted by: logansafi on Aug 31, 2009 6:04 PM
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Posted by: alaskagrrl on Aug 31, 2009 7:58 PM
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My biggest concern was that I'm an attractive transsexual woman. Talk about bending gender stereotypes ! No troubles though. True gender equality.
Now that I'm living in Muslim Malaysia though, it's clear that ESPECIALLY in the heat, bras are truly items of repression, right on the scale of a Burkha. Let's talk Prickly Heat.
Hope the world relaxes someday to allow us to be as God intended -- barefoot and naked if we choose.
That's my religious pursuit....
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Posted by: schubert on Sep 1, 2009 7:46 AM
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I've always felt sorry for women, that they cannot go topless. I'm at an age now that my body is not likely to be an object of anyone's desire on sight, but I still love the freedom and the presexual sensual joy of going shirtless.
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Posted by: danielalderman on Sep 1, 2009 9:02 PM
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The law that you refer to, NY v. Santorelli, is a pretty cool decision.
It is unfair in the extreme for the treatment of men and women to be unequal. If men are permitted to do something, then women should be permitted to do so as well. Anything else violates the equal rights guaranteed by our constitution.
14th amendment's equal proteciton clause: "No state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction equal protection of the laws." This is the law that the judges in the Santorelli case referred to when they made their decision.
Sadly, there is still no ammendment to the constitution which SPECIFICALLY states that women are equal to men. We think we're a pretty awesome country in regard to equal rights, but we have a long way to go...
It's not vulgar, it's not indecent and it's not flaunting. It's combating sexism, pure and simple. Women and men ARE equal and we need to do everything that we can to defeat laws that deny this fact.
Also, you shouldn't listen to janitors in restrooms. The law says nothing about where you can and cannot be topless, it just says that you shouldn't be topless in a way that could be construed as "lewd". Check the letter of the law here:
New York Topless Law
Any woman who's brave enough to do this, should. The more people see it, the less shocking it will be. But make sure that you have a lawyer to call if you get arrested. Law enforcement representatives may not be aware of the case law. The lawyer should be able to help a lot, and maybe you can generate some publicity. Every little bit helps.
Go and fight the good fight!
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Posted by: SolarSoda on Sep 1, 2009 11:35 PM
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I Dugg this article, I Stumbled it (wrote a review too), and I'm about to spread it around Facebook. You go girl - you've got my vote, what a fabulous piece of writing, and this woman thanks you for making yourself vulnerable ... although I can't honestly say I wouldn't have been one of the women whispering at the public restroom. I totally, utterly appreciate what you did here in order to write this piece! Thank you again, what a great read! :-)
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Posted by: C. Rich on Sep 9, 2009 5:15 AM
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http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/09/americas-war-on-sex/
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Posted by: teon6 on Sep 19, 2009 2:26 PM
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Every time someone like you whips their top off in public, you nudge America's warped mores concerning women's breasts a tiny bit toward normalcy. I hope we will reach the point where it will not seem unusual for women to sunbathe, sit, stand, dance, jog, play or (gasp) walk around topless on a given sunny day - any place they damn well please. Which means anywhere that doesn't have a "no shirts, no service" sign.
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Posted by: teon6 on Sep 19, 2009 2:26 PM
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Every time someone like you whips their top off in public, you nudge America's warped mores concerning women's breasts four channel rf remote control rf remote control the mentalist subs the mentalist subtitles electronic ballast 14 watt compact fluorescent electronic ballast seropol5 a tiny bit toward normalcy. I hope we will reach the point where it will not seem unusual for women to sunbathe, sit, stand, dance, jog, play or (gasp) walk around topless on a given sunny day - any place they damn well please. Which means anywhere that doesn't have a "no shirts, no service" sign.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Aug 28, 2009 8:25 PM
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Posted by: St. Luke on Aug 29, 2009 1:23 AM
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Men, at least the ones who are trying to seem halfway respectable, have a lot of training in checking out women without seeming to do so. Since our early teenage years we have been practicing this subtle art. I dare say I could have a conversation with a completely naked woman and never once look away from her face, at least until she turned her head.
Women, on the other hand, have no such training. They may know what it's like to be ogled, but they don't know how to restrain their natural impulse to ogle themselves. Thus, in situations like this one, their behavior is much more blatant.
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Posted by: progressive-life on Aug 29, 2009 6:05 AM
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https://www.jordanmatter.com/previewUncovered.asp - both male and female
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Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Aug 29, 2009 8:19 AM
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Every time someone like you whips their top off in public, you nudge America's warped mores concerning women's breasts a tiny bit toward normalcy. I hope we will reach the point where it will not seem unusual for women to sunbathe, sit, stand, dance, jog, play or (gasp) walk around topless on a given sunny day - any place they damn well please. Which means anywhere that doesn't have a "no shirts, no service" sign.
When you can show your boobs without being characterized as slutty, then maybe women can comfortably feed their children in public.
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Aug 29, 2009 10:10 AM
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Now my wife is pregnant and planning to breast feed our child. Not sure how we'll handle that in public. Per her wishes, of course, whatever they may be.
I personally never found breastfeeding erotic, but always loved to watch - felt honored to be allowed to watch, in fact - because it's one of the most beautiful things in nature to see.
Just remember - naked is natural. Only the Puritan perverts in our society could have ever made it seem anything else.
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Posted by: foreverhope on Aug 30, 2009 5:50 PM
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Load the car and write the note.
Grab your bag and grab your coat.
Tell the ones that need to know.
We are headed north.
One foot in and one foot back.
But it don’t pay to live like that.
So I cut the ties and I jumped the track.
For never to return.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
When at first I learned to speak.
I used all my words to fight.
With him and her and you and me.
Ahh, but it's just a waste of time.
Yeah it’s such a waste of time.
That woman she’s got eyes that shine.
Like a pair of stolen polished dimes.
She asked to dance I said it’s fine.
I’ll see you in the morning time.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
What you were than I am today.
Look at the things I do.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Are you aware the shape I’m in?
My hands they shake, my head it spins.
Ahh Brooklyn, Brooklyn take me in.
Dumbed down and numbed by time and age.
You’re dreams that catch the world the cage.
The highway sets the travelers stage.
All exits look the same.
Three words that became hard to say.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
I and Love and You.
Three words that became hard to say.....
I and Love and You...........................
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Posted by: John Annis on Aug 31, 2009 4:11 AM
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Silly boy. Back to your internet porn.
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Posted by: morticia on Aug 31, 2009 9:56 AM
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Posted by: laurenaislinn on Aug 31, 2009 3:04 AM
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Posted by: Sideliner on Aug 31, 2009 3:29 AM
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You want to go topless, go topless. In the end, few people would care. But if you walk around, then you are in fact flaunting it, shoving it, in people's faces, including people from other cultures who do care. And for what purpose? Just to write an essay and get it "published" online?
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Posted by: Jim on Aug 31, 2009 4:30 AM
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Posted by: rugger on Aug 31, 2009 4:37 AM
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And that goes for women AND men! HAHA!
Some men should get summonses for going bare chested
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Posted by: mike1997 on Aug 31, 2009 5:35 AM
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Posted by: wagner on Aug 31, 2009 6:01 AM
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Posted by: lalala on Aug 31, 2009 6:32 AM
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Posted by: SayBlade on Aug 31, 2009 6:53 AM
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http://www.fcn.ca/Gwen.html
By the way, why is this under the topic Reproductive Justice on this site? It should be under Rights.
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Aug 31, 2009 6:55 AM
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The total rottenness of the Middle-Eastern religions is in their insistence that we should be ashamed of what their Gawd gave us for physical form. I wear as little as possible in the summer, even in public places, and tell the old devils that my body is nothing to be ashamed of, and that if their bodies are shameful, not to make it my problem.
Another reason for oppression of women: our tits are bigger than any darned balls!
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Posted by: mainspark on Aug 31, 2009 7:03 AM
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Instead, why not Human Rights, or Health?
Oh, those pesky Puritans...
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Aug 31, 2009 7:15 AM
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"and now it was my turn to order a phallic symbol".
It is VERY CLEAR that, those with twisted, sexually obsessed minds see EVERYTHING as a "phallic symbol".
A goddamn hot dog is just THAT~~a hotdog.
What is it with the sexually obsessed/repressed who cannot and/or CHOOSE to not see reality.
For those who are not too damn lazy to actually check it out, those with this sick obsession are females in the majority.
The see cocks EVERYWHERE!!
A hot dog is a hot dog is a hot dog as is the Washington monument.
These dick obsessed wackos undermine any/all legitimacy they might have had when they start with this crap.
I'm a straight guy and do NOT see tits everywhere.
Why do they see cocks everywhere?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
BTW-the article was boring.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 31, 2009 8:20 AM
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Posted by: kanekoa64 on Aug 31, 2009 9:49 AM
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Darn...
It's going to be a long time before this will not be viewed as controversial and I hope I see the day in my lifetime. You wimmings got it all over us guys in the aesthetics department and there are so few who are able to appreciate that without either thinking (or getting, PUNNY!)) too hard about it.
Long term exposure is the only way to desensitize the issue.
Seeing what real breasts look like might make American men more normal and stop the insane fixation on cartoon size fake breasts.
Thats a day I look forward to.
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Posted by: texasaggie on Aug 31, 2009 11:11 AM
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Posted by: Old Skeptic on Aug 31, 2009 12:39 PM
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Why anyone would want to go naked puzzles me, though. Frankly, even a "10" looks pretty weird with the patterns from woven cloth, or grass and twigs embossed on their bare skin. And when it comes to furniture, do you really want to put a bare bottom where someone else's bare bottom sat just before you? There are good reasons for clothing beyond puritanism and protection from the weather.
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Posted by: PaulK on Aug 31, 2009 2:44 PM
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On the men's side of the bathroom, almost all men put their hands on their penises and hold them out where other men can see them for maybe 30 seconds, including a little shaking of their genitalia at the end. This isn't obscene. Nor is penis-handling considered dangerous to public hygiene, as opposed to women baring their chests in the women's bathroom, which probably spreads some dread disease, so that the parks department must intervene on the women's side for the greater public good.
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Posted by: Jdog on Aug 31, 2009 4:00 PM
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Well, it isn't THAT bad, but I am self conscious about it. So ladies...Let those beauties show and give us mishapen men the courage to join you!
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Aug 31, 2009 4:15 PM
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And what a brilliant display of feminist intellectual gravitas! How can anyone not marvel at the pure, Socratic, genius of the woman who contributes such wondrous science as this!
Does anyone remember how it was little kids - four or five or so - who stood along the street's edge and "mooned" passing cars? Should we have published on a forum like AlterNet their stories and photos?
How is it that any supposed "minority," feminist - or ideologue in general otherise who can string together five words more or less coherently - must be given a public forum? Who is it that chooses to publish this kind of daffy distaff drivel?
Ah, well - who has ever seen a man buy a tabloid, "celebrity," or gossip magazine? How many men watch Nancy Grace? I guess we all know what drives television and movie ratings; but did we not, this sort of thing would tell us everything we need to know in deciding why is is published.
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Posted by: logansafi on Aug 31, 2009 6:04 PM
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Posted by: alaskagrrl on Aug 31, 2009 7:58 PM
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My biggest concern was that I'm an attractive transsexual woman. Talk about bending gender stereotypes ! No troubles though. True gender equality.
Now that I'm living in Muslim Malaysia though, it's clear that ESPECIALLY in the heat, bras are truly items of repression, right on the scale of a Burkha. Let's talk Prickly Heat.
Hope the world relaxes someday to allow us to be as God intended -- barefoot and naked if we choose.
That's my religious pursuit....
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Posted by: schubert on Sep 1, 2009 7:46 AM
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I've always felt sorry for women, that they cannot go topless. I'm at an age now that my body is not likely to be an object of anyone's desire on sight, but I still love the freedom and the presexual sensual joy of going shirtless.
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Posted by: logansafi on Sep 1, 2009 8:25 AM
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Posted by: danielalderman on Sep 1, 2009 9:02 PM
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The law that you refer to, NY v. Santorelli, is a pretty cool decision.
It is unfair in the extreme for the treatment of men and women to be unequal. If men are permitted to do something, then women should be permitted to do so as well. Anything else violates the equal rights guaranteed by our constitution.
14th amendment's equal proteciton clause: "No state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction equal protection of the laws." This is the law that the judges in the Santorelli case referred to when they made their decision.
Sadly, there is still no ammendment to the constitution which SPECIFICALLY states that women are equal to men. We think we're a pretty awesome country in regard to equal rights, but we have a long way to go...
It's not vulgar, it's not indecent and it's not flaunting. It's combating sexism, pure and simple. Women and men ARE equal and we need to do everything that we can to defeat laws that deny this fact.
Also, you shouldn't listen to janitors in restrooms. The law says nothing about where you can and cannot be topless, it just says that you shouldn't be topless in a way that could be construed as "lewd". Check the letter of the law here:
New York Topless Law
Any woman who's brave enough to do this, should. The more people see it, the less shocking it will be. But make sure that you have a lawyer to call if you get arrested. Law enforcement representatives may not be aware of the case law. The lawyer should be able to help a lot, and maybe you can generate some publicity. Every little bit helps.
Go and fight the good fight!
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Posted by: SolarSoda on Sep 1, 2009 11:35 PM
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I Dugg this article, I Stumbled it (wrote a review too), and I'm about to spread it around Facebook. You go girl - you've got my vote, what a fabulous piece of writing, and this woman thanks you for making yourself vulnerable ... although I can't honestly say I wouldn't have been one of the women whispering at the public restroom. I totally, utterly appreciate what you did here in order to write this piece! Thank you again, what a great read! :-)
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Posted by: C. Rich on Sep 9, 2009 5:15 AM
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http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/09/americas-war-on-sex/
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Posted by: teon6 on Sep 19, 2009 2:26 PM
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Every time someone like you whips their top off in public, you nudge America's warped mores concerning women's breasts a tiny bit toward normalcy. I hope we will reach the point where it will not seem unusual for women to sunbathe, sit, stand, dance, jog, play or (gasp) walk around topless on a given sunny day - any place they damn well please. Which means anywhere that doesn't have a "no shirts, no service" sign.
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Posted by: teon6 on Sep 19, 2009 2:26 PM
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Every time someone like you whips their top off in public, you nudge America's warped mores concerning women's breasts four channel rf remote control rf remote control the mentalist subs the mentalist subtitles electronic ballast 14 watt compact fluorescent electronic ballast seropol5 a tiny bit toward normalcy. I hope we will reach the point where it will not seem unusual for women to sunbathe, sit, stand, dance, jog, play or (gasp) walk around topless on a given sunny day - any place they damn well please. Which means anywhere that doesn't have a "no shirts, no service" sign.
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