XXX: Is the Porn Industry Doomed?

Why on Earth would I spend money on music, movies, books or porn when I have bittorrent?

Thanks to the Internet I can download all the free porn I want. If I want to back it up, I can put it all on one DVDR for about $1. Same goes for music and movies. Whenever I hear about a new movie that I like, I type in into the pirate bay, and voila, next morning I have the movie.

Yet the music/video/porn industries still demand $20 per video or dvd, for what? Some extra plastic? A paper insert? Back in the days of vinyl, an album was a nice keepsake. It was large with clear pictures and all the lyrics. Sorry but a microscopic cd insert doesn't cut it anymore.

Plus, I live in Ireland. Surrounded by cultural troglodites, finding anything besides football videos or action movies less than 5 years old is impossible. (unless you don't mind paying 30 euros for a dvd)

As for porn, what's on the shelves here is just plain boring.

If the music/video/porn industries want to compete, they need to offer 100 albums/movies on a disk and sell it for less than $5. Let's say, all the Beatles hits in mp3 format. I might just buy that.

Until then, it's back to downloading for me.

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Hey if the banks and automobile industries can get billions of tax payers money, why not the porn barons...

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There is plenty of money to be made selling advertising on porn sites. Porn is not going anywhere. Keep dreaming feminists.

If you'll excuse me, I need to get back to my 3some with the bisexual 18 year olds.

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Let's face some hard (yes, the pun was intended) facts here: we are members of this species as a result of two people getting down to business about nine months before our arrival.

What was the stimulus that got them going in the first place? Well, in many cases it was probably a six-pack. Of course, men get their engines humming at the slightest thought of sex, but watching it in a graphic, wonderful detail can move them from a hum to a roar of desire.

Since women aren't quite as visually stimulated as men, this can lead to a problem, hence the six-packs.

Why so many puritans still exist in our society I will never understand. Do they believe they were hatched and that their parents never enjoyed getting down and dirty on a Saturday night...on the kitchen counter? and twice on the sofa?

Sex, like so many other things that humans enjoy yet go to such great lengths to stigmatize and dramatize (such as drugs, free speech and harmonious living) is just further proof of the ridiculous pressure we put on ourselves for ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON.

Frankly, I encourage everyone I know to get it while they can, and to enjoy it while it lasts and don't ask or worry what others may think--the only one that you need to worry about is the one who's satisfaction is depending on your skills--something that requires practice if you ever want to become a Pro!

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...by being in a few porn videos. I'm at least as good looking as most of the guys in the pornos I've seen (certainly better-looking than Ron Jeremy!) and I won't charge as much or be too picky about who I get to do scenes with. Sadly I've heard it's next to impossible for men to break into straight porn unless they have an exclusive female partner with them, but if anyone gave me a break I'd give them my all.

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Given that the US porn industry has turned sex into an extreme sport, devoid of eroticism and tinged with violence, I say good riddance.

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You wrote: "In the past, the Free Speech Coalition pressured Congress to act against creating a dedicated .xxx Internet address for pornography . . ." I thought it was the other way around -- that the porn industry wanted this xxx Internet address so they could have more control over spyware whereas the conservatives DIDN'T want it because it supposedly made porn easier to find (especially for kids).

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Porno is for dysfunctional little boys all dressed up like adults, at the expense of women.

The only gratification is for the scum who produce & distribute it because $$ is their drug of choice. Enjoy

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Alternet feminist: PORN CAUSES VIOLENCE!!11!!

Me: How does it do that?

Alternet feminist: IT CAUSES VIOLENCE BY CAUSING VIOLENCE!!11!!1

Me: Where's the evidence?

Alternet feminist: WOMAN-HATER!!!11!!

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God knows how anyone can call porn an industry!

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"A few weeks after demanding a bailout, Flynt admitted the whole thing was a farce."

Anyone who didn't realize that the request for a "bailout" was a joke from day one -- and there were far too many who did not catch on -- was fairly clueless.

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Game shows and talking to your wife is just boring after a few years of marriage.

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"News" websites will keep it going.

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Recently, archaeologists unearthed a small sculpture or statue of a nude woman, dating back to about 35,000 years ago! Statues of nude couples embracing each other were also discovered in other areas, dating back many thousands of years.

Despite the strident squeals of free speech haters, Porn will be with us for at least several thousand years more.

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Back in the day, before internet, Porn was awesome and the ultimate goal of any young man. Now though, with the internet porn is EVERYWHERE and available freely to anyone who wants it, and even those who dont. So, yeah, I suspect Porn as we know it from the old days is long gone. But its all good.

RT
Is your ISP watching?

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"In 1986 and 1990, Ogden successfully required the Library of Congress to translate Playboy articles into Braille.'

That we will now be able to actually FEEL those breasts??!!

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We as humans come to grips with our sexuality and lose our puritan attitudes. Porn fills the needs of males (mostly) who either do not get what they desire from their partner or are unable to get sex at all do to being either unattractive or unable to "close the deal".

Porn has been the single biggest money maker on the web since the web's inception. Many of the things we take for granted like high bandwidth connections and video players were the result of the porn industry. Just think, if it weren't for the smut dealers we might still be using 56k dialups.

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... the porn industry to wear condoms, it would probably pack up and leave town."
To where? According to Wikipedia, California is the only state that legally allows adult-industry filming. If done elsewhere, porn producers could be arrested for "pandering."
And as for wearing condoms, actors/performers in the the adult industry in France (e.g. Marc Dorcel) do so, and visually it makes little difference. Then again, the French are better at sex than are many others.

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At the heart of the porn industry's problems is its representation, namely the Free Speech Coalition which solicits membership from both the legitimate movie producers and distribution houses, as well as those companies and individuals who pirate those products without paying royaltes.

This is why they have not supported any of the anti-piracy efforts in any state, especially California where the largest portion of the industry resides.

Now that Ms. Duke, the Director of Free Speech Coalition, is a bona fide national lobbyist (doesn't that require at least a little more than one day waking up and deciding to be one?), I'm sure they will continue ignoring piracy crimes against their membership.

Why does the porn industry choose to be represented by a wolf in sheeps clothing?

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WTF! We have real frackin problems to understand and to deal with, but some at AlterNet are still frothing at the mouth about a non-issue...porn.

The porn issue is just noise, especially when we start to examine all of the real issues that we need to deal with...our economic system, our government, individual freedom, our environment, our survival, and our health.

How much affect does porn actually have upon our society...seriously? As far as violence is concerned, maybe we should be discussing the real issues...torture, war, terrorism, crime, inequality, ignorance, fundamentalism, greed, gluttony, overpopulation (population density and footprint), fascism, mental health disorders, and violent cultures and media.

Can we please stop with the stupidity...please.

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in evolution. It will change to fit the times. No big deal.

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I found that I was signed up by the SSI state insurance company for WellCare. The only way to interact is on line. To interact with WellCare they expect you to except their Terms of service. The terms of service explicitly state you may not view explicit images online. So here is all these people in California getting old and our Social Security Insurance can what be discontinued on the bases of whether or not the insured views porn when porn is legal? Who came up with that cause we know that is illegal to make illegal policy/law. Thanks to my wife, her job and Cigna being our provider ,I have never singed up with these thieves. Bad California services and worse Gov interventions are setting us up for what? View porn and your check stops coming, go to jail, or worse yet maybe FEMA is involved, I don't know but one step at a time we will get to the bottom of it.

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Awwwww!

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If we're going to tax porno, why not put a tax on guns & ammo? There's something that causes real harm to the general public, like tobacco. Taxing firearms would at least compensate for much of the damage our crazy gun policies have perpetrated. And it might even cut down on sales.

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This industry has done its job and served its social purpose. It can rest for a while.

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Ok, I'm not sure what's funnier... that Larry Flint made the hysterical spoof-request for a bail out in an attempt to grab head lines or that people were so dense that they didn't get the joke and thought that Hustler really wanted a bail out.

What's funniest, however, is that the publicity stunt is being used as a basis for in-depth articles about how the porn industry is hurting.

Flint even said it was a joke.. that he's making 400 billion per year.. that he didn't really need a bail out.. and still people hold it up as a sign that people are turning away from porn.

Trust me, people, the porn industry isn't hurting and if you're dense enough to fall for that Larry Flint publicity stunt, you really need to shake yourself.

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it's never going to die and go away. Besides that's about the only viable enterprise this country has going for it, it takes one's mind off of all the idiotic wars that we keep inciting everywhere on the planet.

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Porn doesn't die because of the media landscape. You want porn to end, then stop the demand for it. Unfortunately it's a drug and like all other drugs, you can't stop an industry that feeds on keeping people addicted.

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over the years. From humorous little stories wrapped around one or two scenes in the twenties and thirties to just sex scenes in the 40s through the early 60s to a semblance of a plot and even a few written by Roger Ebert for Russ Meyer in the early to mid 70s. In the 70s porn moved into theatres. The industry made movies with more plot and more scenes. And people flocked to see Deep Throat and others. The plots were just a way to string the sex scenes together (like opera, but with explicit sex instead of singing) Video tape gave the industry new life. The dvd continued that. Over 50% of sales and rentals of tape and dvd are for porn. The type of product also changed. Gonzo porn, much like that of the stag films, with scenes of similar sex acts collected on a dvd, came back in the 80s and continues today as a large portion of the industry. Plot driven porn is down, specific scene type/fetish driven porn is up. Choice is exploding. You want to see something that has only left-handed red headed women? I am sure there's a niche for you. You want to see it for free in the internet? There's a site of three for you. The industry has changed to meet the demands of the consumer. Those producers who fail to meet the demand will lose sales and go out of business. That's capitalism.

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bourbon street on new orleans is a hustler magazine come to life. women gyrating in windows, half naked..with that come hither look. i guess its working. i visited new orleans recently and had no idea that larry bought out the street. entirely. no good blues, live jazz, live music really.

you have to go somehwere else for that. i know its off topic..obviously porn is not going anywhere. its everywhere. it has taken over historically great places and turned it into girls gone wild. not just new orleans either. lots of cities, bars, clubs, discos, whatever have been bought by owners who cater to porn enthusiasts. that is where the $$ still is.

the porn industry which used to be somewhat elusive and viewed in the privacy of your best friends older brothers room..is now a plain part of our culture. women getting waxed all kinds of ways to resemble porn stars, breast implants, penile implants, sex pills...its all related to the porn industry and the affect it has had on all of us.

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Oh please!!! I thought this sort of "porn is the root of all evil" thing went out in the 60's. About the time people started to think of the hysterically anti-sex film "Sex Madness" as a typical example of middle class paranoia.

As a personal connosieur of porn, all my life in fact, it has NOT turned me into some sort of woman hating violence-prone misfit. If anything, it has made more appreciative and responsive to the opposite sex. Contrast that with many of the regular church-going types--with their misogyny and horror of sex. And their allies in the feminist movement.

So please spare me the crap in this article. Better to enjoy the fantasy then to experience the reality.

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You don't need a fake ID to get online porn restricted to those who are over 18.

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Aren't most news outlets saying that the porn industry is recession-proof and it is actually doing better than ever?

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I'm no prude. I love to see people getting frisky in a most explicit way, but I cancelled my subscription to the Hustler Channel because I was sick of seeing low quality, gonzo porn all about anal sex.

There are no longer even pathetic plot-lines you can laugh at while your revving up the engines. (Okay, some but not many...)

Geez, Flynt - thanks for taking all of the fun out of porn!

p.s. I do consider myself a feminist too. Not all feminists are anti-porn. But this one is anti-boring-porn!

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there will always be a market for a good B.J. movie..whatever the economy..

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that porn will never go away.

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except it will always exist- just not necessarily at the multi-billion dollar industry that it is now.

All media companies are in the same boat- people can now be the masters of their own entertainment destinies with instant access to several hundred million potential viewers/consumers.

From music to television to porn- amateurs and independents are slowly but surely taking over via the Internet. Just as the demise of the "music industry" will not lead to the disappearance of music, neither will the demise of the porn industry be the end of porn. As humans, we are fascinated by our own behavior. As long as we are still capable of self-expression, we will have porn. But it will be nice, I think, to have less corporate porn, less rigid ideas of feminine beauty and more creativity and fun in the stories. If porn means watching partially inflated fembots being degraded and abused, or even just being robotically humped, I certainly won't ever have any use for it.

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WHAT WILL I DO NOW?

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I'm resting from a hard work-week, playing with words here, or I wouldn't bother with something like this; but hasn't it occurred to anyone that it has been militant feminism that made the pornography industry so popular and, hence, lucrative?

Feminism made no bones about its desire to puerile-ize men, to turn them into (effeminate) boys. Part and parcel of that was the need to remove male manners and behavior, codes of conduct, and all that John Wayne-ish sort of thing. Men, rebuffed everywhere in the courtly manners toward women - behavior demanded traditionally of young men by older men - began behaving like adolescent boors. Everywhere, men were seen eating at table wearing their hat (often a greasy, odiferous, cowpie of a thing), barging through doors ahead of women, remaining seated when a lady approached, and a dozen things more reprehensible to traditional males.

And like the adolescent male suddenly aware of his genitals, he played with his sexuality. Erstwhile snickering at every mention of sex, the sex act, and the "private parts" now became obsession with pornography.

Like those all but un-educated in music while newly possessed of "spending money" suddenly began making miserable excuses for musicians and entertainment popular and rich, the adolescent male, inexperienced and largely ignorant of either the female and/or sex began making pornographers rich. Too ignorant of the female, and therefore largely afraid the blow to his nascent masculinity that in his puerile mind rejection would mean, to simply ask for sex, he sought sublimation of his sex drive elsewhere.

Why the hell anyone would rather watch (often at considerable expense) what he could so easily do is a question answerable only by psychology and behaviorists who study abnormal behavior.

Pornography dead? Yeah, sure - when guys start rising and taking off their hat when a lady approaches.

"A state that dwarfs its men, in order that they may be more docile instruments in its hands even for beneficial purposes, will find that with small men no great thing can be accomplished; and that the perfection of the machinery to which it has sacrificed everything will in the end avail it nothing, for want of the vital power which, in order that the machine might work more smoothly, it has preferred to banish."

Be careful what you wish for; you might get it. You wanted - you demanded - this little wimp, girls - you got him.

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The reason to Porn Industry (the big companies/producers/actors) is collapsing is because they've completely fallen out of touch with demand. They're stuck in the 80s, when fake boobs and contrived story lines were selling because they were the only game in town

Now, though, there are thousands if not millions of alternatives -- on the internet, in the form of 'zines, on reader-submitted sex story archives -- that reflect what Americans really want out of porn; and the stale corporate product produced by the Porn Industry is dying like it should. Their product was never any good. Now their sales numbers are finally reflecting that.

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They can't hardly sell that stuff on ebay even with 15% coupons.

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VIDEOS OF top100 American porn stars IN YUOTUBE

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The XXX films I have seen like Deep Throat and Behind the Green Door and I am Curious: Yellow were tame adult entertainment compared the OBSCENITY and FILTH of:

greedy, corrupt employers putting American worker out on the street so they can exploit the dirt cheap labor and LACK of EMPLOYEE PAYROLL TAXES and ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS and easy to bribe governments in THIRD WORLD BANANA REPUBLIC HELL kinds of places...

HUGE BLOATED COCKROACHES LIKE BERNARD MADOFF STEALING BILLIONS TO FINANCE A LUXURIOUS LIFESTYLE AND WE HAVE TO WONDER HOW MANY OTHER CRIMINALS OUT THERE JUST LIKE HIM ARE STILL ON THE LOOSE AND STILL STEALING PEOPLE'S RETIREMENT AND PENSION PLANS AND DONATIONS CONTRIBUTED TO THE MANY CHARITIES THAT INVESTED WITH MADOFF! PRISON IS TOO GOOD FOR THIS FAT,SLICK BASTARD!

A FAKE WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST STARTED UNDER FALSE PRETENSES LIKE THE VIETNAM WAS STARTED WITH THAT FAKE GULF OF TONKIN INCIDENT, IF we had care about Saddam Hussein and human rights abuse, why didn't George HW Bush take him out during Desert Storm? WHY DID THEY WAIT UNTIL AFTER CHENEY HAD THE CONFERENCE WITH THE BIG OIL MEN AND THEN 911 SUDDENLY HAPPENED PROVIDING US WITH THE HALF ASS EXCUSE TO GO TO WAR IN AFGHANISTAN --- BUT WE ENDED UP IN IRAQ INSTEAD??? THEN IT WAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND THAT LIE DIDN'T WASH EITHER. WE WERE PROMISED WE WOULD GET OIL FROM IRAQ AND IT WOULD MAKE THE OIL PRICES LOWER. IT DIDN'T. WE GOT GOUGED MORE THAN EVER. NOT TO MENTION ALL OF THE INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO DIED IN THAT INVASION!

NOW WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE POPPY FIELDS IN AFGHANISTAN SO THE NEW WORLD ORDER CAN CONTINUE TO ENRICH THEMSELVES BY SELLING NARCOTICS JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL VIETNAM WAS WAS FOUGHT TO KEEP THE HEROIN MOVING OUT OF THE BURMA TRIANGLE. Man, don't you people EVER learn from HISTORY???

And so far THE STIMULUS MONEY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HELP THE SUFFERING UNEMPLOYED AMERICAN WORKERS WENT TO THE ELITE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY CRONIES INSTEAD!!! AND PEOPLE ARE STILL AFRAID THEY WILL LOSE EVERYTHING THAT MEANT ANYTHING TO THEM! MORE HOMELESS IN THE STREETS! THIS IS OBSCENE!

IN TEXAS, THE STIMULUS MONEY IS NOT GOING TO GO TO THOSE SORRY PART -TIME WORKERS. IT IS GOING TO HELP RESTORE THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION THAT SOME RICH WHITE YOUNG MAN BURNED IN A PIQUE OF RAGE BECAUSE WHATEVER IT WAS HE FELT HE WAS ENTITLED TO HE APPARENTLY DID NOT GET!

We elected a PRESIDENT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY FELL IN LOVE WITH ORIGINALLY -- BECAUSE HE PROMISED HOPE AND CHANGE BUT INSTEAD, IT LOOKS LIKE HE JUST PICKED UP WHERE THE CHENEY-BUSH-CLINTON ALLIANCE LEFT OFF... WE WERE FOOLED AGAIN. People forget that John F. Kennedy, the elitist son of privilege was destined to be a one-term President because he messed up where it counts the most THE DOMESTIC ECONOMY! Never mind that the Bay of Pigs fiasco angered the CIA, the Mafia who lost billions in their Cuban investments as well as others... The VOTERS would have removed Kennedy from office LEGALLY!So I don't know why he was assassinated. Stupid thing to do.
PRESIDENT OBAMA has often been compared to Kennedy. On his mother's side of the family, he is related to elite Northeastern dynasties as well so he is NOT the OUTSIDER he is portrayed. He and Kennedy were both products of HARVARD! Obama's father was Kenyan ROYALITY insofar as there IS African Royalty and a Muslim and President Obama was raised as a Muslim.
I was willing to forget all this if he could just save our country from the ECONOMIC SUICIDE that began with Carter's regime --given a respite by REAGAN and then pushed into the downhill spiral by NIXON's former henchmen. I began to realize that it was just one Party of ELITES with different labels.

NOW THIS IS SOME REAL OBSCENITY.

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Time to start reminding OBAMA and the elected ones in WASHINGTON DC about their promises to aid the UNEMPLOYED!
Jobs are dropping in this country like autumn leaves and YOUR JOB COULD BE NEXT!
I was made homeless in the 2001 Recession and just when I got out of it, ALONG COMES THE 2008 RECESSION!
They used to come in 10 year cycles but now they are coming closer together.
EVERY ABLE-BODIED AMERICAN WHO WANTS A JOB AND WANTS TO WORK FOR THEIR MONEY SHOULD HAVE A JOB!

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