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Men Are Turning Into Ken Dolls

By Trisha Gura, Huffington Post. Posted May 14, 2009.


Today's idealized man looks more like the typical, glowing female model we are accustomed to seeing in magazines than the Brawny man.
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This pressure paradox creates difficulties for today's men. On the one hand, they face new expectations from women who are now achieving financial independence and are seeking attractive and sensitive, rather than rich and stoic, partners. On the other hand, men also must face their buddies, who may label sensitivity and careful grooming as homosexuality.

Nowhere else is male-to-male homophobia more visible than in American high schools, where young men are still searching for their identities. In high school, the line between stereotypical heterosexual and homosexual behavior is rigid and cannot be crossed. To illustrate this dynamic, Pascoe recounts an anecdote from River High School, located in California. Because male students were so worried about appearing to care about their looks, none would change their clothes after autoshop class, even though they were greasy from working with car parts. In high school, nonchalance rules.

It rules elsewhere, too. Middle-aged men going gray still want to look young and sexy. But they don't want to use hair dye for fear of seeming like they care about looking sexy. To reconcile their dilemma, these men turn to products like "Touch of Gray"' hair dye. The concept is to achieve sexiness in age -- salt and pepper hair without too much salt or pepper.

And how do guys talk about this dilemma?

They don't. They rationalize, keep secrets, and fib. If a man gets his hair trimmed at a hair salon, he certainly doesn't tell his buddies where he's going. Cuts are done at barbershops or no-frills places like "Supercuts," not a salon. If he carefully picks out an outfit each morning, he "will do it on his own" and pretend he threw on random clothes, according to Serer. And if someone does find out about his grooming habits, he may use the ultimate rationalization -- the hair gel or the coordinated outfit was all to "get the girl" or the job. Unlike women, who can compare eyebrow waxes, makeup brands, and exercise regimens with each other, men cloak their body concerns in secrecy.

I'm not advocating an increased acceptance of body obsessions for men. We have seen the ramifications of pervasive appearance anxieties in women through the explosion of eating disorders and deflated self-image -- clearly the pressure to primp does more harm than good. But while we should not reproduce the worries of women in the male population, we can at least learn from how women deal with these issues. They talk with other women at work, at home, and in public. They write books and articles in protest. They do not suffer in silence. Our men can do the same -- they are stronger than secrecy. If only we could get them out of the closet.


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Don't worry too much
Posted by: Derek Maddox on May 14, 2009 3:41 AM   
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Your article is really about boys, not men. Once they get past puberty and adolescence, all of this "pressure" goes away. The only guys who obsess over going gray or bald are the ones who never quite grew up.

What we really need are more women who look at their men and refuse to leave the house (or go to bed) with them until they clean up their act.

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the author herself seems a bit wet behind the ears
Posted by: Suzon on May 14, 2009 3:49 AM   
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Most men do what they do and can't be bothered with introspection, much less chatting about grooming with friends.

Men, when they're not discussing sports or something equally serious, tend to banter.

Nothing wrong with that.

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» Can't agree. Posted by: SpiderWoman
Good for men -
Posted by: cdlepthien on May 14, 2009 5:19 AM   
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beyond a certain point worrying about your appearance is a waste of time. This is a case where (generalized) women ought to emulate (generalized) men - minus the homophobia, of course. I hate conversations about manicures, make-up, hair, etc. Guys, if you want to attract intelligent women, you'll look great with your nose in a book!

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» I keep my nose in books Posted by: Eddie Van Helsing
No Longer Quivering ‹(ô¿ô)›
Posted by: deni_haven on May 14, 2009 5:30 AM   
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Poor guys ~ I feel so sorry for them. LOL

No Longer Quivering

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» Well actually ... Posted by: deni_haven
» And you are a pedophile. Posted by: bingahaba
GI Joe can
Posted by: fred_53_99 on May 14, 2009 5:42 AM   
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Gi Joe can still kick Ken's ass. Can you believe this crap, men waxing thier grion. What next men looking softer than women? Well why not most American men becoming punks anyway. Look at how many are walking away from being fathers. How many ran to join the armed forces after 911?. how many are so called "thugs" but afraid to fight alone or with thier hands. Or the number of men who like beating women.Mind you the very women that are taking care of thier sorry butts. Now I see what is our national obesession(sp) with homosexuality is, American men are afraid they are becomming such. We're not gay were becoming punks.

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» RE: GI Joe can Posted by: Bob Bliss
» RE: GI Joe can Posted by: TheNamelessCity
» It is a sub-atomic particle! Posted by: bingahaba
"A state that dwarfs its men . . ."
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 14, 2009 6:28 AM   
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"A state that dwarfs its men, in order that they may become more docile intruments in its hands . . ."

Replace the word "A state" with "women" in that J.S. Mill quote, and you have an explanation for a major factor in the U.S. decline. As wrestling and judo coach, trainer of soldiers, police officers, and security personnel for decades, I agree with others in trainer profession when they say as a hand-to-hand combat instructor said recently.

"Today's momma's boy men, raised as they were in today's 'single parent families,' wouldn't make a pimple on a real man's ass. For Christ's sake, we have guys bringing deodorant and hair dryers to training to kill! What a goddamned joke!"

As a nation, we're a once-perfect soup being diluted by the garbage of every nation on the globe, and all the while wondering why the soup is changing for the worse; nothing, however, explains our decline - including that dilution - more than our "dwarfed" males.

That anyone wonders or doubts that is just another symptom of our precipitous decay.

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» he changes "state" to "women" because Posted by: hurricane hugo
» RE: "A state that dwarfs its men . . ." Posted by: Walks-in-Storms
» RE: "A state that dwarfs its men . . ." Posted by: Walks-in-Storms
Media is the image
Posted by: Stew on May 14, 2009 6:50 AM   
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Abercrombie boys are dictating impressionable young teens about body appearance. I'm OK with the lean look but what happened to the hair? This seems odd. Men have hair all over so when did it become unattractive to have body hair? Perhaps it stems from weight lifting/body building competitions where they need to shave it off so judges can better see the cut and definition. I go to the local salon for haircuts to support local business, about 4 times a year! I spend about 5 minutes in the morning looking in the mirror. What do I care how I look, I don't have to look at myself. We all know that certain looks are pushed on the masses in order to sell product. As with most weird things that go on in our society, just follow the money and you'll find out the source of the madness.

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What does a real man look like?
Posted by: greenmulberry on May 14, 2009 7:13 AM   
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If the author is worried about pressure to live up to a media ideal, she should not declare what she thinks a 'real man' looks like.

All men are real men.

The brawny man image is just as unattainable for some men as the smooth skin ambercrombie look is for others.

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Just More Suburban Psychosis
Posted by: kad on May 14, 2009 7:35 AM   
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Once you get away from the malls and tract housing of suburbia, I don't think this is much of an issue.

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Time to grow up and abandon childish things.
Posted by: monkeywrench on May 14, 2009 8:17 AM   
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"We see it today as the five-o-clock shadow look made famous by Grey's Anatomy's Patrick Dempsey, which by now has trickled down even to Disney superstar Zac Efron. While scruffy in appearance, the look requires careful grooming."
. . . . . .

Actually, this carefully-crafted scruffiness makes a boy-man look like he can't grow a decent beard. Not very manly at all.

And, while we're on this subject: Who in hell decided that young white males look good with shaved heads, or worse, buzz cuts?! Is the very idea behind the "Mr. Clean" or "Chatter the Chimp" looks to BE as ugly as possible? Or is it some misplaced macho ideal borne out of the twisted attitudes of EXTREME Fighting shows or EXTREME Sports shows or EXTREME ... well, you get the idea. As I write this, I'm watching an ad for cheap suits that features some underpaid commercial model with the typical square-jawed face but with a pot-scrubber buzz cut and "rip-her-thighs-to shreds" facial stubble (go down on her with that Patrick Dempsey look and she'll pitch you out of bed so fast you won't know what hit you ...). He looks like crap, and back when I was dating, he would have had absolutely no chance of passing on his genes to anybody. Is this the new ideal, carefully-crafted fake, posed "macho" ugliness (and often with an intimidating, combative attitude to match)?

Real men don't have to play these games, and real men care about what their women think of them. If you want to have fulfilling, caring, ADULT relationships throughout the rest of your lives, it's time to grow up, boys. Besides, you'll have plenty of time for the shaved head look when your hair falls out in middle age; so why rush it? Use it while you got it.

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» Buzz cut Posted by: BlueTigress
Leave it Up To Women To Destroy Men....
Posted by: rastaman on May 14, 2009 8:47 AM   
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...they can't help themselves. after complaining and withholding sex (their only resort and "weapon")throughout the 80's and 90's. women duped men into being caring and sensitive.


now, throughout the Bush admin., women have insisted that they want a hypermasculine neanderthal cavemen type.


it's precisely this childish narcissistic fickle amoral selfish unawareness that drives them to always want what they can't have and to destroy what men are to their own detriment.


men should never listen to what a woman wants and be what YOU want. do not reward their childish bad behavior and always keep them from thinking that you wouldn't leave them in a NY minute.

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» RE: Maybe women withheld sex Posted by: cdlepthien
» RE: Maybe women withheld sex Posted by: rastaman
Media and marketing BS
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on May 14, 2009 9:21 AM   
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People are constantly being manipulated, whether it's about looks, habits or fears, to mold them into customers for one piece of BS or another. It works. How far do you think homely folk like Ernest Borgnine, Jimmy Durante would make it in the age of American Idol? Even Bogie was no beacon of beauty. Today's homely actors are relegated to stereotype bad guy roles.

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The popularity of 5-O'clock shadow
Posted by: mcubed on May 14, 2009 9:31 AM   
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I think it's been around and fashionable off and on a bit longer than this decade.

Maybe my memory is going.

Michele

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» Remember Miami Vice? Posted by: Defenestrator
Who cares? So what if men and women trade places in looks and fashion?
Posted by: Ranjit Kumar on May 14, 2009 9:50 AM   
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Maybe that will heal the gender divide.

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I noticed this trend
Posted by: jw32181 on May 14, 2009 10:00 AM   
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I've noticed this trend...especially among men in Europe. I've known some guys that have gone so far as to pluck their eyebrows! I wouldn't be surprised if men start to wear makeup soon. lol.

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» RE: I noticed this trend Posted by: sureshot45
» RE: I noticed this trend Posted by: maxfactor
» They already wear makeup Posted by: thornwolf
More alternet tabloid
Posted by: logansafi on May 14, 2009 10:01 AM   
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Bleahhhhh....!!!!!

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2009 & I'm coo'
Posted by: Jaffe on May 14, 2009 10:15 AM   
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Lookit, I'm male, 100 percent gender-fast hetero.

Yeah, I've had 6-pack-abs implants and other cosmetic procedures, and yeah, I have a designer stubble modeled after Don Johnson in Miami Vice way back in the day.

Except for the stubble I'm waxed, smooth as an infant's butt.

I also use cologne laced with pheromones, and you know what? It freakin' works. The broads, the in-betweens--they cum like lemmings.

Yo, this is 2009, that "global graveyard" that McLuhan prophesied about way back when.

We are attached to our time as if to a dying animal. And is it our fault that the degradation metastasizes on- and offline faster than I can say: I'm outta here?

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Ken Dolls
Posted by: Sir Jim on May 14, 2009 11:41 AM   
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Boys and Girls, can we just all please grow up? Men and women are bioligically different.

Women can be whatever they want to be. Men can be whatever they want to be. As a man, I will decide for myself what that is; other adults, male or female, can decide whether they like it or dilike it, and respond/interact accordingly, as is their right.

Adults don't tell other adults how to be, as long as what they are falls within the law and what their parents taught them about good grooming and civility.

Beyond that, it would be nice if we could all just mind our own business.

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REAL men?
Posted by: Ahimsa on May 14, 2009 11:44 AM   
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What is that supposed to mean or look like, a character on a paper towel label?
Come on, can every man be the kind of man he wants to be?
I thought we criticized conservatives for this kind of provincial thinking. Less stereotypes, not more please.

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Of false binaries and other anti-human bourgoise bullshit
Posted by: DaBear on May 14, 2009 1:16 PM   
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I keep seeing a lot of this, "all men are/not..." blabbity blah blah bullshit. And the whole binary rubric, Ken doll or Brawny man... OK, so author makes intersting observations, yada yad ayada... blam false binary land, again.

It's tired. It's old.

"men" as a gender construct (however based upon biological sex or not) still represents a huge continuum of "man"ifestation (sorry can't help it). Even within the two hemispheres of homo and hetero, there is so much variation between hypo, median and hyper masculinity it boggles the mind that some people still obsess about the mono-male image. W.T.F.

Some men are short, have flat butts and body hair (oh, gasp!) Others are tall and lean (damn them) and still others have no body hair (those who aren't pre-pubescent boys anyway).

It bothers me that mainstream media images of men only throw confusion into gender chaos (as MSM does to women), which in the absence of something positive always results in a gross negative macho response who get amped up over alleged "feminization of males" and other manner of chauvanist fantasy bullshit. It also bothers me that we hypo-masculine hetero males can't get our brothers to open up and talk about this shit and figure out some coherent new vision together of what men can be and do that doesn't result in oppression of any Other (women) or hyper-narcissism of ourselves and our "specialness" and shit. Instead we're stuck battling the shitheads amongst the penised-crowd and the bludgeoning from the non-penised who carp on our lack of sock-picking-uppage and other typical "male" failings.

We're all freaked our and frakked up and stretched too thin. We need to cut each other slack and figure shit out. Blabbering about Brawny Man and Ken dolls does nothing, IMHO, to get us where we need to be going.

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Ken dolls or just better grooming habits?
Posted by: katrin on May 14, 2009 2:01 PM   
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Guys should not have to obess over their looks everyday-even women learn how to get their look down without alot of muss and fuss. Good grooming habits are attractive to everyone even if you are the 'manly man' type.
1) get a great haircut and just maintain it-get an 'easy style for your hair type'
2)maintain yr weight-if you are bit overweight, just cut down on the wings and beer and play hoops w/yr friends more often.
3)have a few pair of 'great' jeans and a couple pair of flattering dress slacks in yr wardrobe
4)have some great fitting t-shirts, a few shirts and a jacket/hat - if you like wear these things most of the time because you look great in them and mix n' match. get some cool shoes that look great anywhere (worth the upfront $)
5)brush your teeth well/mouthwash, clip your fingernails--don't smoke and buy some Clinque for men face wash/moisturizer-as well and don't hide it in yr bathroom (use it in the shower on yr face/the wash)'it's for MEN'-OK?
Dress and go-that's it! Done! you look great-we females will greatly appreciate it.

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But who speaks for the million-dollar-bonus guys?
Posted by: westomoon on May 14, 2009 6:40 PM   
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They have been obsessively grooming themselves since the 80's -- check the movies "Wall Street" or "Bonfire of the Vanities" for a good close look at the early version of the shaved-three-times-a-day, pinpoint-oxford, weekly-hair-trim, creaseless, manicured, obsessive-compulsive sartorial style.

The top executives where I used to work would occasionally divert their general cutthroat competitiveness into actual open dissing of each other's workout approaches, neckties, and tailoring. Embarrassment about grooming is probably a phenomenon among the young and the economically disadvantaged -- it sure ain't among the big-money boys.

I would not attribute this to women. Gay men have always been careful about things like body hair. Because it is somehow intrinsically gay to do so? Nah, because they want to appeal to men. This article does not mention the rampup in male hairlessness requirements of women over the past 30 years, but it used to be considered quite peculiar for men to prefer the total absence of body hair in women. The hairless big-money boys, like the hairless male models we see, are working to appeal, not to women, but to the hair- and dirt-phobic decision-makers who affect them financially -- who are male.

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AMEN to that : appreciate individuals without projecting expectations
Posted by: rational_moderate on May 15, 2009 9:35 AM   
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If this article were instead complaining that too many women weren't shaving their legs, etc. and thus weren't real women, all hell would break loose.

But somehow it's OK to comment on what "real men" are like?

Let's appreciate people for whom they choose to be, without projected a pre-conceived notion of they way they're supposed to approach their appearance and grooming.

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The problem of old men getting fat, is the high-carbohydrate diet in USA
Posted by: skepticgod on May 15, 2009 8:15 PM   
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The problem with the adult population in USA becoming overweight is the diet high in carbohydrate. When people are young they can eat more carbohydrates and not get fat because young people can eat a diet higher in carbohydrate and not require so much insulin. The problem comes when people get older, their insulin-system gets wrecked, so they produce higher levels of insulin as consequence of any amount of carbohydrates. So this is one of the major reasons of why people in USA get fat as they get older, and fatness contributes to loss of physical attractiveness.

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Good idea, wrong focus.
Posted by: goodyweaver on May 16, 2009 12:29 AM   
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This article would be far more interesting if it focused not on the idea that men aren't "real men" anymore, but on the trend toward the generic in male appearance. For years, I've noticed that men - in all geographic areas - just look the same. They all have their hair cut off. They all have on a polo shirt. They all have on khaki pants and sneakers. They just...look...the same. I feel really lucky to have found my long-haired, bearded husband before he became assimilated into the weird national parade of "men" - and this was the issue I expected to read about when I read the title here. Yes, men are turning into Ken dolls. But not because they pluck their eyebrows. They're being stripped of their individual identity so quickly, I can't even believe that most women are able to choose a mate. How do you choose from an army of clones? Creepy.

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» RE: Good idea, wrong focus. Posted by: TomTom
brawny man
Posted by: sureshot45 on May 19, 2009 6:57 AM   
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just saw a commercial and the new brawny man is clean shaven, strong jaw, short hair. ha!

http://www.brawnytowels.com/products.html

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Ken Dolls
Posted by: barryoaks on May 23, 2009 3:21 PM   
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I wonder how many of these guys were raised by only their mommies?

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Changing roles
Posted by: Andrew_S on May 26, 2009 6:23 PM   
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The princess mentality of females are interesting in basically two respects in the effects of the behaviour and outcomes of males. Academic and legal philosophy or ideology in practise and state craft patronising for people usury. We live in a politically insular world of individual universes and thinking where unless you are oozing jail bait come on's. You ain't got it ? As the cultural shift from security in the private individual naturally conservative male to security in the now fiscally dominant enlightened females. The assets are then much more easily relinquished to the state or sequestered through fiat by one of it's legally authorized components. As females normalize the feminist position of superiority in being female, males follow the money and the morsels of sexual favors or honey. It is encumbent on the modern mobile male to follow and fall in with the trends. Not only in body language, attire and bitchiness. There are very few places where the formerly known 'man' has any solice. Let's all just enjoy the ride to the American version of socialism in all but name. Take a look in the man wanted ads for females, which by a majority states. I want a real man, for that you will have to follow the wisened and look at shores afar.

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