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Should You Try Stripping?
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It used to happen every six months or so. I would be on my way home from the restaurant where I work to make ends meet, smelling of salsa and coffee and the tequila I didn't drink, and wondering how over the past 14 hours of horror I hadn't even made $100. And then it would come to me, this pleasingly simple thought: Maybe I could be a stripper. I would try to chase it away with cautionary tales of prostitutes in fishnets on the side of the highway in the dead of winter, but the thought would amble back with the easy confidence of a Clint Eastwood movie. "Not a prostitute," it would say, "a stripper. An exotic dancer, if you will." Then the thought would pull out its secret ace, a bone for my vanity to gnaw on: "Come on now, you're a pretty girl…"
For many of us, if Maxim called and asked us to pose in our underwear, we probably wouldn't mind. Stripping may strike some as less classy than being on the cover of a magazine, but essentially you're still getting paid to be hot and nearly naked. In our current culture, sex appeal has attained a status that no other quality shares. So the thought of making money from it, especially in these tough times, is increasingly appealing. And as Maxim seems to have misplaced my phone number, stripping is what I think about as my bills pile up. Since our economy formally began its downward spiral, I've started to have those thoughts almost once a week. And you know it: I'm not alone.
Applications in every job market have skyrocketed since this time last year, but unlike so many other industries, most strip clubs don't have hiring freezes. They are doing better than ever. The New York branch of Rick's Cabaret International Inc., an operation of upscale gentlemen's clubs (one that's publicly traded on NASDAQ), now gets an average of 40 to 50 job applicants per week, up from 20 a week this time last year. But the company also reported a 58% increase in total revenue from 2007's last quarter to 2008's. During that same period, the number of unemployed rose by 3.6 million in the United States. Disposable incomes are definitely shrinking, but sex is selling better than ever. Is it so bad to want a piece of the action?
Despite living 10 blocks south of Private Eyes and passing Lace on the way to the gym, until recently I had never actually been inside a strip club. Although I increasingly fantasize about it as a get-my-career-off-the-ground strategy, I haven't stopped to ask too many questions. So when, in the name of journalistic inquiry, I decide to check one out, I figure a chaperone was a good idea. So I left a message for my close friend Jake (whose name has been changed for reasons we'll get to).
I call him on a Friday afternoon and am partway through my shift at the restaurant when he texts me back. His response is not what I expect.
"Did you see The Post this weekend?" he writes.
He means The New York Post, and no, I had not.
"Randi was on the cover for stripping. She's become semi-famous overnight. She got a book deal and possible reality show out of it."
I should take this opportunity to mention that Jake and I used to go out, and that Randi is his new girlfriend.
Hiding at the back of the restaurant's coat check, I stare at my phone and feel my heart drop out of my chest and land on the floor of my stomach. Jake is the last guy I really cared for. And now he's seriously with someone else. But that isn't the real reason I'm upset. Maybe it's her sudden celebrity status that's bothering me, or the book deal I certainly wouldn't mind for myself. It's that Jake has never before mentioned what Randi does for a living, and now that I know, my honest fear is that she's hotter than me. Plus, she has the courage to do the one thing I fantasize about as my "last resort" every day. Rationally, I can say I don't care, but as my heart rolls over and starts checking itself for bruises, I find myself dreading that he's traded up.
My reaction isn't uncommon. Ariel Levy, in her book "Female Chauvinist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture," explores the exalted and surprisingly mainstream place strippers and porn stars have come to hold in our culture. Porn doesn't hide under the bed and strip clubs are no longer euphemized as "boys' night out." As Levy illustrates, today we live in a world where Jenna Jameson's memoir can be on the best-seller list for six weeks, Crunch gyms offer a "Cardio Striptease" class, and ads for "vaginoplasty" run in LA Weekly. American royalty like Paris Hilton launch careers with sex tapes. And as Levy points out, "Hilton isn't some disgraced exile of our society. On the contrary, she's our mascot." No wonder Randi's profession catches like a fishhook in my stomach.
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Posted by: The Great Satan on Apr 30, 2009 12:09 AM
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» Honky, is that you?
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» I thought I’d try something new.
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» yea yea. text. I know.
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 30, 2009 3:09 AM
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How ironic. These articles proport to condemn the male fantasy while embracing it: All college girls and waitresses are hot looking and desperate for money.
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Posted by: EMB on Apr 30, 2009 3:26 AM
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» You guys must be from the UK, you're very naive about this stuff.
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Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Apr 30, 2009 4:07 AM
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» In a free market economy, there is no such thing as under paid.
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Posted by: 876 on Apr 30, 2009 6:16 AM
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Posted by: xvictor on Apr 30, 2009 6:37 AM
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» Those who have negative feelings re stripping wears coke glasses
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» Way off, buddy
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» RE: I won't begrudge a pretty female trying to earn some money
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Posted by: Violetflame11 on Apr 30, 2009 6:51 AM
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How pathetic for Alternet to run this garbage, I will seriously consider cancelling my subscription.
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Posted by: janvdb on Apr 30, 2009 7:18 AM
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It takes the readers to point out that most strip clubs are in industrial areas, rotten parts of town, are frequented by disgusting slobs and employ deeply troubled women.
I simply do not believe that being a stripper has been sanitized of all that, isn't regarded as the one rung above being a prostitute, and doesn't wreck a woman's reputation.
Does she actually think she is going to go from being a stripper to getting a respectable job, like, say, a real estate agent, where she must present herself to the public, many members of whom will have recently viewed her pubic area? Trust me, she will not be hired.
Paris Hilton is "American royalty?" Royalty??? Excuse me, but anyone silly enough to miss the fact that Paris Hilton is a stupid, vacuous, laughable little idiot who is nowhere near "respectable" is not much of an observer of culture.
Jan VanDenBerg
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Posted by: bornxeyed on Apr 30, 2009 7:29 AM
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But, somoehow, when a women makes $80,000/yr showing off her tits, it's not?
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Posted by: sureshot45 on Apr 30, 2009 7:38 AM
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both serving and stripping (and selling drugs) are appealing because of the lack of effort it takes to work. sleep in late, work for a few hours, made loads of cash. of course it appeals to some people. there are great servers out there..no doubt..but in my experience its all greed, laziness, and usually drug problems.
it is totally fine if you enter these professions. we need strippers and servers etc. but a quick buck often times comes at a high price. self esteem, health, confidence, safety..not to mention the mental drain and disdain for males that could accompany such a job. these are all factors that women should consider when fantasizing about their next pole gig.
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Posted by: Love Me, I'm a Liberal on Apr 30, 2009 7:48 AM
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Posted by: stellabloo on Apr 30, 2009 8:36 AM
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Ladies, for God's sake - stay in school. Or move out to the bush, cut your own firewood or grow your own potatoes. Anything. You'll like yourself so much better in the morning, not to mention 25 years down the road.
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Posted by: davmills on Apr 30, 2009 8:38 AM
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Posted by: ak47blog on Apr 30, 2009 9:33 AM
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When times are great strippers are in demand.
When the economy tanks strippers are in greater demand. Go for it.....
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Apr 30, 2009 9:44 AM
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"Discourse and Debate in the U.S., a Study."
That will be the title of the thesis I am writing, and it is the result of a five year study or discourse and debate both here on the Internet and on the electronic media, radio and television.
I not only have participated as I do here on a wide range of "talk" forums, I have repeatedly been thrown off one after the other - some as many as three times. What is most significant about that fact is the further fact that in no instance have I resorted to any of the ad hominem attack, vituperation, scurrility, insult or any of the like so characteristic of today's "debate."
Neither have I, ever, lowered the conversation by hurling the vapid and ubiquitous charges of "racist," "sexist," or the "politically-correct" like.
In every instance, in point of demonstrable fact, I have insisted upon logical process, sought to lower the level of heated nastiness, and endeavored to cast the proverbial "oil upon the waters." I have, moreover, demonstrated again and again that illogical assertion and personal attack prove utterly nothing - except the character of the user.
In each instance, I not only supported both sides of political, religious, and ideological arguments, I carefully esculated my objections to the personal attack, vituperation, insult, and the like to the degree of offering exemplary, while far subdued in comparison, rebuttal in kind.
It was I, nevertheless, who was in each instance being mentioned here thrown off the site.
My study suggests a number of things, not the least of which is that none of the providers of "opinion" space is interested in real debate. Their purpose is the same as that of today's "news" media, that of popularity among certain groups. It is entertainment in the form of "venting," and few participants have any interest in anything but what they, themselves, say. Others participate solely to hear the point of view they support repeated again, and again, and again (some sort of psychological re-inforcement, I suppose).
It is also clear that participants in "debate" like that of AlterNet detest logical, scientific, or mathematical proof. One such person - here on AlterNet, matter of fact - protested angrily that "Logic has no place in debate." Well, now - what does?
It has also become clear that certain ideological topics are sancrosanct where any logically, scientifically, or statistically contradictory evidence is concerned. All matters of feminist interest, for instance may not be contradicted, and expulsion is dependent exactly upon degree of logical and rational effectiveness. Prove a point, you are history where the site is concerned.
It is further interesting where feminist and certain other liberal viewpoints are concerned that reply in kind results with absolute certainty in deletion or expulsion. Feminists, for instance, may attack their antagonist by means of derogatory allusion to sexual prowess - but no retaliation of that sort is tolerated.
An interesting instance of that was a woman who called herself "Eyes wide Open." When “Eyes” loosed on me one of the most scurrilous personal attacks of the many to which I have been subjected, I suggested that were I to refer to her as "thighs wide open" I wondered what would happen. In needn't have "wondered" - I was expelled forthwith from Truthout (where I continue under another sobriquet and guise - this one liberal rather than my customary moderate).
I have, incidentally, forwarded to each of more than two dozen sites of the kind to which I refer here a copy of this letter. No one has responded.
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Posted by: chizill on Apr 30, 2009 9:46 AM
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Posted by: stripperhacks on Apr 30, 2009 10:52 AM
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Women should try it and see how they like it but you need to be assertive an not overly sensitive if you want to make real money. The word NO has to mean absolutely nothing to you. You also have to say not A LOT!
It really is surprising as mainstream as porn and strip clubs are it is still looked down upon.
The ratios are hundreds of millions of users compared to how many millions of performers?
Last I heard there were really only around 5K porn performers who are actually getting paid for their work. Don't quote me on that but the ratio is staggering. People hate and that's what gives the sex industry so much power.
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Posted by: Ayla87 on Apr 30, 2009 11:06 AM
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Posted by: jkillpackknutsen on Apr 30, 2009 11:19 AM
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I'm appalled that people would spend money on strippers when they are having a hard time putting food on the table or making mortgage payments - we all need escape, but there are plenty of free and cheap ways to escape.
I also believe that as a society we need to first work on equal pay for equal work for women. If a woman really wants to strip for fun she should be able to, but not because she has to. There should be an abundance of non-sex related jobs for women that value them for their mind, skills and abilities and not just their bodies.
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Posted by: nen on Apr 30, 2009 12:11 PM
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However, as a man, I'm curious. There are male strippers. I know this. Alternet, could you possibly satisfy my curiosity? Could we hear a piece about male strippers? I've considered the "sensual arts" as a possible career myself. Sex, and especially sex as a recreational activity, is a big part of my life. However, I never get to hear about what the market's like for a male stripper/exotic dancer.
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» Why not ask one?
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Posted by: jstepp590 on Apr 30, 2009 1:07 PM
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The only thing that I noticed from it that was negative was that it sometimes gave them a bad attitude about men. Some of us guys are nice and a lot of those ladies play rough! Caveat emptor for real.
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Posted by: semperfam on Apr 30, 2009 2:20 PM
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Now I'm confused 8- What the hell happened to AlterNet the informative place for discourse? This article is even more disingenuous. It's like she writing what's in her head and perhaps a handful of other Women of questionable character. On the one had..."Guy's make some babies with us yeah! Hey why are you afraid to look gay?" on the other hand..."Hey and while you are doing it or maybe just before I’ll go be a pole whore!"
I really am starting to think that either our consumer version of Democracy really is fucked up, or a handful of amoral Women who somehow became read writers are. It's more likely the later although obviously they both play a role. The really sad part is all the good Females out there reading and being influenced by this garbage. How is it that this jerkette can write this crap and actually get it published? And why further is she putting this shit out there to negatively influence good Women ((and Girls))? What's even more ridiculous and immoral is that because she kept to her passion of writing she ain't in that crappy job anymore "smelling Tequila"...and blah, blah. So why try and influence ((which you are)) other Women ((my Wife, my Daughter)) who might be in a temporary difficult situation.
Just the other day my best friend and an incredible Honorable Man said to me his goal with his youngest child is, "To keep his Daughter of the pole." meaning out of the strip club. I said to him, "You are correct Man because this is a War of minds." When I said it in my mind I imagined a greedy ad exec. or the "Girls Gone Wild Guy." Thanks to the Jerkette that wrote this crappy piece now I am seeing other Women.
Ladies please disregard this crap and verbally assault this tramp as a traitor in your midst. And Vanessa Richmond before you write another one of your un insightful articles because you are trying to think of something shocking to write and have deadlines, go back and read this morons articles so you can answer your own questions before posing them to the public and embarrassing yourself {8-o
Lily Blau, of Sirens Magazine, shame on ya..and the next time before you put the pen to pad consider this...it is a Man's World. He owns the strip club you go about and likely the publication you write for...might even be your boss. If you keep negatively influencing our Women you are influencing your own demise. For indeed you are ((your twisted amoral mind)) the justification for evil extremes in religion and societies. Personally I truly believe it is just a shame what we have come to in terms of morality particularly with regards to our Women. It's just a shame that we have to thing 8 times before having a baby because our Women who are of weaker mind and influenced with this type of media are turning in to tramps. Thanks! Lily for your thoughtful and constructive article. Now go wrap your ass around a pole somewhere you Jerkette! 8-) You probably should given the substance of your writing will likely see you back in that waitress job you hate soo much. And you’re getting older, but obviously not any wiser, day by day.
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Posted by: njguy73 on Apr 30, 2009 3:28 PM
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Posted by: StripandGrowRich on Apr 30, 2009 9:31 PM
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Two of the quotes I liked best are
"It just seems to me that the message being delivered to young women isn't that the hot women can be smart, it's that the smart women need to be hot. Stripping is not just a potentially lucrative side job; it's a step toward a storybook ending." I spent over $130K on my bachelors and masters degrees to get a teaching job that paid $35k a year. I spent $5k on a boob job and easily make four times that. Money doesn't guarantee happiness, but it sure makes it easier when there is a roof over your head and food on the table.
"Everyone has their own path and, in Dr. Schwartz's words, "you use what you have." Even though I have a graduate education, some of my coworkers were born pretty, not smart. Does that mean that they don't deserve to have financial freedom?
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Posted by: michelleg on Apr 30, 2009 9:49 PM
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* The dudes that follow you and harrass you and you get little support from management or the police. The cut of your tips and money that are strong armed from you if you are any success. And the lovely taint of being a whore, but of course, see bullet point below. You can't imagine, much like OctoMom, the downside of being quirky on the magazine cover or imagine your life beyond your thirties.
* What will happen when she applies for a director, VP or executive job? What will she do when pictures come up when she is in her fifties? Oh, I know...she can't visualize beyond waitressing or being up for an executive job... And you know everyone will be understanding and give her a fair shake in the future.
* She always uses the Disney word "girls" never woman. While the commenters here use the word woman.
* Funny, an article about getting active and protesting in France is posted the same day. The little fraking whiner goes to lesbo island wondering about waxing, when she could be using her head for her own marketing plan and business opportunities. She fantasizes that only if she were the sexy, life would be handed to her. What a tool. She doesn't ask why her only two options are: waitress and stripping. That's a retarded setup. Adorable in an article. But does she need help counting change and crossing the road?
Besides, she didn't sell when the sellin was good, because the market isn't infinite for these quirky striper/whatevers. It will be a joke that always follows you.
* what the frak to men do in her situation? do they only have the option to strip or waitress? Oh, she can't ask that question because visions of sugared tits dance in her head. Jesus, what are you doing skulking around with your ex and his stripper? That ain't going to solve your problem of getting richer, smarter or getting laid.
Again. stratch off that ticket and it's a fail.
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Posted by: oldhippy39 on May 2, 2009 2:42 PM
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ticket to Nevada where prostitution is legal.
Nuff said.
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Posted by: Landbaron on May 2, 2009 4:31 PM
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Daniels launches a "listening tour" across the state next week, to "meet with Louisiana men and women and listen to the issues and concerns they struggle with every day."
Daniels is not affiliated with a political party, but her listening tour will focus on the economy, working women and child protection.
Fans have been wooing the 29-year-old to run for office by launching the Web site.....
CRAWFISH NOTE: In the upsidedown secular socialist world of the modern democrat it makes sense to put forth a grossly immoral affront to voters with any morals left. Meeting with women? Child protection? Not affiliated with a political party? Ya gotta be...cause that is lie #1. Perfect (disgustingly typical) democrat fit.
Prepare the bumper sticker now...PORN STARS FOR CHANGE. This is why they are SECULAR socialists.
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Posted by: omygodnotagain on May 3, 2009 8:25 PM
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Posted by: charles000 on May 6, 2009 9:33 PM
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Look, I'm a straight, heterosexual male who is and always has been in love with and respectful of the women that have been in my life . . . and yet, I have never found "stripping" to be even remotely interesting or "stimulating" sort of entertainment.
Quite the contrary, on the single occasion when I was more or less poked and prodded into briefly visiting one of these so-called strip clubs with some other guys I was somewhat acquainted with, I found the whole thing very sad, and pathetic.
If this is what the girls need to do to make a living, well, it could be worse.
But for me, I just couldn't relate to it, at all.
It was just, well, sad to witness this dark and dingy world of drunken men acting like a bunch of jerks, and these girls trying to coax them into giving money to them.
My first and only thought at the time was, if I ever have a daughter, please don't let her end up in here.
OK, what do I know - I'm just a guy . . .
But I do find it, well, bizarre that this sort of an article would be published here, in Alternet???
Tell me, what am I missing here . . .
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Apr 30, 2009 3:09 AM
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How ironic. These articles proport to condemn the male fantasy while embracing it: All college girls and waitresses are hot looking and desperate for money.
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Posted by: xvictor on Apr 30, 2009 6:37 AM
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» Those who have negative feelings re stripping wears coke glasses
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Posted by: Violetflame11 on Apr 30, 2009 6:51 AM
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How pathetic for Alternet to run this garbage, I will seriously consider cancelling my subscription.
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Posted by: janvdb on Apr 30, 2009 7:18 AM
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It takes the readers to point out that most strip clubs are in industrial areas, rotten parts of town, are frequented by disgusting slobs and employ deeply troubled women.
I simply do not believe that being a stripper has been sanitized of all that, isn't regarded as the one rung above being a prostitute, and doesn't wreck a woman's reputation.
Does she actually think she is going to go from being a stripper to getting a respectable job, like, say, a real estate agent, where she must present herself to the public, many members of whom will have recently viewed her pubic area? Trust me, she will not be hired.
Paris Hilton is "American royalty?" Royalty??? Excuse me, but anyone silly enough to miss the fact that Paris Hilton is a stupid, vacuous, laughable little idiot who is nowhere near "respectable" is not much of an observer of culture.
Jan VanDenBerg
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Posted by: bornxeyed on Apr 30, 2009 7:29 AM
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But, somoehow, when a women makes $80,000/yr showing off her tits, it's not?
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Posted by: sureshot45 on Apr 30, 2009 7:38 AM
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both serving and stripping (and selling drugs) are appealing because of the lack of effort it takes to work. sleep in late, work for a few hours, made loads of cash. of course it appeals to some people. there are great servers out there..no doubt..but in my experience its all greed, laziness, and usually drug problems.
it is totally fine if you enter these professions. we need strippers and servers etc. but a quick buck often times comes at a high price. self esteem, health, confidence, safety..not to mention the mental drain and disdain for males that could accompany such a job. these are all factors that women should consider when fantasizing about their next pole gig.
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Posted by: Love Me, I'm a Liberal on Apr 30, 2009 7:48 AM
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Posted by: stellabloo on Apr 30, 2009 8:36 AM
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Ladies, for God's sake - stay in school. Or move out to the bush, cut your own firewood or grow your own potatoes. Anything. You'll like yourself so much better in the morning, not to mention 25 years down the road.
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Posted by: davmills on Apr 30, 2009 8:38 AM
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Posted by: ak47blog on Apr 30, 2009 9:33 AM
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When times are great strippers are in demand.
When the economy tanks strippers are in greater demand. Go for it.....
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Apr 30, 2009 9:44 AM
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"Discourse and Debate in the U.S., a Study."
That will be the title of the thesis I am writing, and it is the result of a five year study or discourse and debate both here on the Internet and on the electronic media, radio and television.
I not only have participated as I do here on a wide range of "talk" forums, I have repeatedly been thrown off one after the other - some as many as three times. What is most significant about that fact is the further fact that in no instance have I resorted to any of the ad hominem attack, vituperation, scurrility, insult or any of the like so characteristic of today's "debate."
Neither have I, ever, lowered the conversation by hurling the vapid and ubiquitous charges of "racist," "sexist," or the "politically-correct" like.
In every instance, in point of demonstrable fact, I have insisted upon logical process, sought to lower the level of heated nastiness, and endeavored to cast the proverbial "oil upon the waters." I have, moreover, demonstrated again and again that illogical assertion and personal attack prove utterly nothing - except the character of the user.
In each instance, I not only supported both sides of political, religious, and ideological arguments, I carefully esculated my objections to the personal attack, vituperation, insult, and the like to the degree of offering exemplary, while far subdued in comparison, rebuttal in kind.
It was I, nevertheless, who was in each instance being mentioned here thrown off the site.
My study suggests a number of things, not the least of which is that none of the providers of "opinion" space is interested in real debate. Their purpose is the same as that of today's "news" media, that of popularity among certain groups. It is entertainment in the form of "venting," and few participants have any interest in anything but what they, themselves, say. Others participate solely to hear the point of view they support repeated again, and again, and again (some sort of psychological re-inforcement, I suppose).
It is also clear that participants in "debate" like that of AlterNet detest logical, scientific, or mathematical proof. One such person - here on AlterNet, matter of fact - protested angrily that "Logic has no place in debate." Well, now - what does?
It has also become clear that certain ideological topics are sancrosanct where any logically, scientifically, or statistically contradictory evidence is concerned. All matters of feminist interest, for instance may not be contradicted, and expulsion is dependent exactly upon degree of logical and rational effectiveness. Prove a point, you are history where the site is concerned.
It is further interesting where feminist and certain other liberal viewpoints are concerned that reply in kind results with absolute certainty in deletion or expulsion. Feminists, for instance, may attack their antagonist by means of derogatory allusion to sexual prowess - but no retaliation of that sort is tolerated.
An interesting instance of that was a woman who called herself "Eyes wide Open." When “Eyes” loosed on me one of the most scurrilous personal attacks of the many to which I have been subjected, I suggested that were I to refer to her as "thighs wide open" I wondered what would happen. In needn't have "wondered" - I was expelled forthwith from Truthout (where I continue under another sobriquet and guise - this one liberal rather than my customary moderate).
I have, incidentally, forwarded to each of more than two dozen sites of the kind to which I refer here a copy of this letter. No one has responded.
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Posted by: chizill on Apr 30, 2009 9:46 AM
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Posted by: stripperhacks on Apr 30, 2009 10:52 AM
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Women should try it and see how they like it but you need to be assertive an not overly sensitive if you want to make real money. The word NO has to mean absolutely nothing to you. You also have to say not A LOT!
It really is surprising as mainstream as porn and strip clubs are it is still looked down upon.
The ratios are hundreds of millions of users compared to how many millions of performers?
Last I heard there were really only around 5K porn performers who are actually getting paid for their work. Don't quote me on that but the ratio is staggering. People hate and that's what gives the sex industry so much power.
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Posted by: Ayla87 on Apr 30, 2009 11:06 AM
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Posted by: jkillpackknutsen on Apr 30, 2009 11:19 AM
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I'm appalled that people would spend money on strippers when they are having a hard time putting food on the table or making mortgage payments - we all need escape, but there are plenty of free and cheap ways to escape.
I also believe that as a society we need to first work on equal pay for equal work for women. If a woman really wants to strip for fun she should be able to, but not because she has to. There should be an abundance of non-sex related jobs for women that value them for their mind, skills and abilities and not just their bodies.
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Posted by: nen on Apr 30, 2009 12:11 PM
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However, as a man, I'm curious. There are male strippers. I know this. Alternet, could you possibly satisfy my curiosity? Could we hear a piece about male strippers? I've considered the "sensual arts" as a possible career myself. Sex, and especially sex as a recreational activity, is a big part of my life. However, I never get to hear about what the market's like for a male stripper/exotic dancer.
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Posted by: jstepp590 on Apr 30, 2009 1:07 PM
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The only thing that I noticed from it that was negative was that it sometimes gave them a bad attitude about men. Some of us guys are nice and a lot of those ladies play rough! Caveat emptor for real.
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Posted by: semperfam on Apr 30, 2009 2:20 PM
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Now I'm confused 8- What the hell happened to AlterNet the informative place for discourse? This article is even more disingenuous. It's like she writing what's in her head and perhaps a handful of other Women of questionable character. On the one had..."Guy's make some babies with us yeah! Hey why are you afraid to look gay?" on the other hand..."Hey and while you are doing it or maybe just before I’ll go be a pole whore!"
I really am starting to think that either our consumer version of Democracy really is fucked up, or a handful of amoral Women who somehow became read writers are. It's more likely the later although obviously they both play a role. The really sad part is all the good Females out there reading and being influenced by this garbage. How is it that this jerkette can write this crap and actually get it published? And why further is she putting this shit out there to negatively influence good Women ((and Girls))? What's even more ridiculous and immoral is that because she kept to her passion of writing she ain't in that crappy job anymore "smelling Tequila"...and blah, blah. So why try and influence ((which you are)) other Women ((my Wife, my Daughter)) who might be in a temporary difficult situation.
Just the other day my best friend and an incredible Honorable Man said to me his goal with his youngest child is, "To keep his Daughter of the pole." meaning out of the strip club. I said to him, "You are correct Man because this is a War of minds." When I said it in my mind I imagined a greedy ad exec. or the "Girls Gone Wild Guy." Thanks to the Jerkette that wrote this crappy piece now I am seeing other Women.
Ladies please disregard this crap and verbally assault this tramp as a traitor in your midst. And Vanessa Richmond before you write another one of your un insightful articles because you are trying to think of something shocking to write and have deadlines, go back and read this morons articles so you can answer your own questions before posing them to the public and embarrassing yourself {8-o
Lily Blau, of Sirens Magazine, shame on ya..and the next time before you put the pen to pad consider this...it is a Man's World. He owns the strip club you go about and likely the publication you write for...might even be your boss. If you keep negatively influencing our Women you are influencing your own demise. For indeed you are ((your twisted amoral mind)) the justification for evil extremes in religion and societies. Personally I truly believe it is just a shame what we have come to in terms of morality particularly with regards to our Women. It's just a shame that we have to thing 8 times before having a baby because our Women who are of weaker mind and influenced with this type of media are turning in to tramps. Thanks! Lily for your thoughtful and constructive article. Now go wrap your ass around a pole somewhere you Jerkette! 8-) You probably should given the substance of your writing will likely see you back in that waitress job you hate soo much. And you’re getting older, but obviously not any wiser, day by day.
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Posted by: njguy73 on Apr 30, 2009 3:28 PM
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Posted by: StripandGrowRich on Apr 30, 2009 9:31 PM
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Two of the quotes I liked best are
"It just seems to me that the message being delivered to young women isn't that the hot women can be smart, it's that the smart women need to be hot. Stripping is not just a potentially lucrative side job; it's a step toward a storybook ending." I spent over $130K on my bachelors and masters degrees to get a teaching job that paid $35k a year. I spent $5k on a boob job and easily make four times that. Money doesn't guarantee happiness, but it sure makes it easier when there is a roof over your head and food on the table.
"Everyone has their own path and, in Dr. Schwartz's words, "you use what you have." Even though I have a graduate education, some of my coworkers were born pretty, not smart. Does that mean that they don't deserve to have financial freedom?
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Posted by: michelleg on Apr 30, 2009 9:49 PM
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* The dudes that follow you and harrass you and you get little support from management or the police. The cut of your tips and money that are strong armed from you if you are any success. And the lovely taint of being a whore, but of course, see bullet point below. You can't imagine, much like OctoMom, the downside of being quirky on the magazine cover or imagine your life beyond your thirties.
* What will happen when she applies for a director, VP or executive job? What will she do when pictures come up when she is in her fifties? Oh, I know...she can't visualize beyond waitressing or being up for an executive job... And you know everyone will be understanding and give her a fair shake in the future.
* She always uses the Disney word "girls" never woman. While the commenters here use the word woman.
* Funny, an article about getting active and protesting in France is posted the same day. The little fraking whiner goes to lesbo island wondering about waxing, when she could be using her head for her own marketing plan and business opportunities. She fantasizes that only if she were the sexy, life would be handed to her. What a tool. She doesn't ask why her only two options are: waitress and stripping. That's a retarded setup. Adorable in an article. But does she need help counting change and crossing the road?
Besides, she didn't sell when the sellin was good, because the market isn't infinite for these quirky striper/whatevers. It will be a joke that always follows you.
* what the frak to men do in her situation? do they only have the option to strip or waitress? Oh, she can't ask that question because visions of sugared tits dance in her head. Jesus, what are you doing skulking around with your ex and his stripper? That ain't going to solve your problem of getting richer, smarter or getting laid.
Again. stratch off that ticket and it's a fail.
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Posted by: oldhippy39 on May 2, 2009 2:42 PM
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ticket to Nevada where prostitution is legal.
Nuff said.
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Posted by: Landbaron on May 2, 2009 4:31 PM
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Daniels launches a "listening tour" across the state next week, to "meet with Louisiana men and women and listen to the issues and concerns they struggle with every day."
Daniels is not affiliated with a political party, but her listening tour will focus on the economy, working women and child protection.
Fans have been wooing the 29-year-old to run for office by launching the Web site.....
CRAWFISH NOTE: In the upsidedown secular socialist world of the modern democrat it makes sense to put forth a grossly immoral affront to voters with any morals left. Meeting with women? Child protection? Not affiliated with a political party? Ya gotta be...cause that is lie #1. Perfect (disgustingly typical) democrat fit.
Prepare the bumper sticker now...PORN STARS FOR CHANGE. This is why they are SECULAR socialists.
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Posted by: omygodnotagain on May 3, 2009 8:25 PM
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Posted by: charles000 on May 6, 2009 9:33 PM
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Look, I'm a straight, heterosexual male who is and always has been in love with and respectful of the women that have been in my life . . . and yet, I have never found "stripping" to be even remotely interesting or "stimulating" sort of entertainment.
Quite the contrary, on the single occasion when I was more or less poked and prodded into briefly visiting one of these so-called strip clubs with some other guys I was somewhat acquainted with, I found the whole thing very sad, and pathetic.
If this is what the girls need to do to make a living, well, it could be worse.
But for me, I just couldn't relate to it, at all.
It was just, well, sad to witness this dark and dingy world of drunken men acting like a bunch of jerks, and these girls trying to coax them into giving money to them.
My first and only thought at the time was, if I ever have a daughter, please don't let her end up in here.
OK, what do I know - I'm just a guy . . .
But I do find it, well, bizarre that this sort of an article would be published here, in Alternet???
Tell me, what am I missing here . . .
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