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Rights and Liberties

Amy Goodman: Why We Were Falsely Arrested

By Amy Goodman, Truthdig. Posted September 5, 2008.


Government crackdowns on journalists are a true threat to democracy.
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ST. PAUL, Minn. -- Government crackdowns on journalists are a true threat to democracy. As the Republican National Convention meets in St. Paul, Minn., this week, police are systematically targeting journalists. I was arrested with my two colleagues, “Democracy Now!” producers Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar, while reporting on the first day of the RNC. I have been wrongly charged with a misdemeanor. My co-workers, who were simply reporting, may be charged with felony riot.

The Democratic and Republican national conventions have become very expensive and protracted acts of political theater, essentially four-day-long advertisements for the major presidential candidates. Outside the fences, they have become major gatherings for grass-roots movements -- for people to come, amidst the banners, bunting, flags and confetti, to express the rights enumerated in the Constitution’s First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Behind all the patriotic hyperbole that accompanies the conventions, and the thousands of journalists and media workers who arrive to cover the staged events, there are serious violations of the basic right of freedom of the press. Here on the streets of St. Paul, the press is free to report on the official proceedings of the RNC, but not to report on the police violence and mass arrests directed at those who have come to petition their government, to protest.

It was Labor Day, and there was an anti-war march, with a huge turnout, with local families, students, veterans and people from around the country gathered to oppose the war. The protesters greatly outnumbered the Republican delegates.

There was a positive, festive feeling, coupled with a growing anxiety about the course that Hurricane Gustav was taking, and whether New Orleans would be devastated anew. Later in the day, there was a splinter march. The police -- clad in full body armor, with helmets, face shields, batons and canisters of pepper spray -- charged. They forced marchers, onlookers and working journalists into a nearby parking lot, then surrounded the people and began handcuffing them.

Nicole was videotaping. Her tape of her own violent arrest is chilling. Police in riot gear charged her, yelling, “Get down on your face.” You hear her voice, clearly and repeatedly announcing “Press! Press! Where are we supposed to go?” She was trapped between parked cars. The camera drops to the pavement amidst Nicole’s screams of pain. Her face was smashed into the pavement, and she was bleeding from the nose, with the heavy officer with a boot or knee on her back. Another officer was pulling on her leg. Sharif was thrown up against the wall and kicked in the chest, and he was bleeding from his arm.

I was at the Xcel Center on the convention floor, interviewing delegates. I had just made it to the Minnesota delegation when I got a call on my cell phone with news that Sharif and Nicole were being bloody arrested, in every sense. Filmmaker Rick Rowley of Big Noise Films and I raced on foot to the scene. Out of breath, we arrived at the parking lot. I went up to the line of riot police and asked to speak to a commanding officer, saying that they had arrested accredited journalists.

Within seconds, they grabbed me, pulled me behind the police line and forcibly twisted my arms behind my back and handcuffed me, the rigid plastic cuffs digging into my wrists. I saw Sharif, his arm bloody, his credentials hanging from his neck. I repeated we were accredited journalists, whereupon a Secret Service agent came over and ripped my convention credential from my neck. I was taken to the St. Paul police garage where cages were set up for protesters. I was charged with obstruction of a peace officer. Nicole and Sharif were taken to jail, facing riot charges.

The attack on and arrest of me and the “Democracy Now!” producers was not an isolated event. A video group called I-Witness Video was raided two days earlier. Another video documentary group, the Glass Bead Collective, was detained, with its computers and video cameras confiscated. On Wednesday, I-Witness Video was again raided, forced out of its office location. When I asked St. Paul Police Chief John Harrington how reporters are to operate in this atmosphere, he suggested, “By embedding reporters in our mobile field force.”

On Monday night, hours after we were arrested, after much public outcry, Nicole, Sharif and I were released. That was our Labor Day. It’s all in a day’s work.

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Amy Goodman is the host of “Democracy Now!,” a daily international TV/radio news hour airing on more than 700 stations in North America.

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Say Hello to GWOT ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Sep 5, 2008 12:09 AM   
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And both major party candidates are just fine with it ...

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It's SOP for police
Posted by: Elmowilcox on Sep 5, 2008 12:40 AM   
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Police live for crowd control situations. It's what they train and wait for all year long. It requires absolutely no provocation from the citizenry other than to gather and be loud for cops to render you gassed, beaten, slammed to the ground, and thrown in flexicuffs at major events all over the country. The right to peaceably assemble in this nation ends as soon as the assembly begins. It's like the rogue bloodthirsty soldier tired of cleaning his rifle after target practice, itching to get "some action". Please start a war with someone, please.

Here, the police wait around every year for Austin's version of Mardis Gras. Even Austin, the liberal capital of Texas, gets to witness peaceful(though often admittedly intoxicated, but what's a party like Mardis Gras for?) people that pay for all the riot gear to begin with get beaten and sprayed, slammed against walls, intimidated with various displays of force involving motorcades and horses, and arrested en masse; when all they wanted to do was have fun and spend their thousands and millions of dollars supporting the local economy legally. Their time would be better served in patrol cars going after the idiots that leave drunk, but they get to do that every night on 6th Street, that's no fun.

The point is, you put amped up, authority drunk, riotgear clad police that love beatin on some "hippies" in a crowd full of, well, Americans, and it's a recipe for injustice via police brutality. Remove the police to the outskirts of the event and have them perform actual "crowd control" rather than forceful intimidation, as in, arrest people that are committing arrestable offenses in their view, and things would be different.

But what I'm getting at is that 9 out of 10 cops drive around all year pulling people over for traffic offenses, which is a miserable existence. Give them an event to "police" and they will find people that need policing. It's the equivalent of giving a child a bag of fireworks and asking them to hold onto them until the 4th...they'll find something to celebrate and probably cause a housefire.

Another way to put it, ever had your parent tell you "I'll give you something to cry about"? Riot police on "crowd control" as they like to call it...will give you something to get your ass kicked and arrested for. They live for it.

I've always said that the police have no real interest in there ever existing a crime-free world, what would they do? They aren't really that damn interested in your safety, you're as likely to die driving 70(the speed limit) as your are at 80 or 90. It would be like General Motors actually making a vehicle that didn't break down, who would they sell parts to then?

The police want to sell people a foot in the ass.

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» RE: It's SOP for police Posted by: kungfuma
The real troops are..
Posted by: Sunnydayz on Sep 5, 2008 12:48 AM   
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the journalists and activists.

I have always found it rather odd that everyone credits our "freedoms" to the soldiers. The truth is that our freedoms and democratic systems are obtained by journalists and activists.

Soldiers may protect from outside threats, but the real threat to freedom and democracy is a threat that comes from INSIDE.

Freedom and demcracy are not concepts that you win and own, they are living and need to be maintained. The troops who do this work are the activists, protestors and journalists (like those in Democracy Now!). They are the front line and we should support them and not glance and then look away when they are attacked like this.

This is a clear indication that our front lines have been attacked and we should read it as the attack signal that it is.

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Notes on the Ministry of Truth
Posted by: lclark on Sep 5, 2008 12:51 AM   
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It's sickening to see the talking heads ramble on for hours at the convention over candidate trivia and delegate statistics and not even reference the protests outside the convention. These conventions are nothing but in your face examples of how well managed the news is. It is now an instument of the corportocracy.

A perfect example was during McCain's acceptance speech. Several people were in the aisles raising the peace sign. As they were dragged away the crowds broke into "USA,YSA". Then McCain said: "Let's not be diverted by the static or the background noise" and "People want us to stop yelling at each other."

And just how does the elite create that appear ance? By introducing 'Free Speech Zones' where oppostion is contained and removed from public view. By endlessly going on about irrelevent analysis of campaign strategy and not discussing issues in substance.

It is rather the elite in both parties don't want to be bothered by citizens protesting what is being done to them.

What did the police tell the author how they should cover the demostrations...by 'embedding' themselves with the police like the news was 'embedded' with the invading troops in Iraq. Only government condoned (managed)news is allowed to function.

It is simply apparant that we've been undone as a free society. Slick produced candidate videos invoking all the mirage images of freedom replace a real examination of the candidates or the real state of this nation.

McCain worked the Ariizons state legislature to have people's homes lowered in value in Arizona along the NAFTA superhighway. Obama wants a huge tax burden added to redistribute wealth from the largest debtor nation to the rest of the planet....oh, and lets not record who votes how.

The Ministry of Truth is established; the Ministry of Love is being built. George Orwell was a visionary.

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things can change . . .
Posted by: phindrup on Sep 5, 2008 1:01 AM   
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Slightly off topic
Sydney hosted the APEC September 2007 and the Premier of our State, New South Wales, went along with the Howard governments (federal) idea of ‘security’. Fences, dogs, para military armed bods everywhere, no go areas and a warning that anyone arrested could spend the week in custody.

Really nice people! Anyway yesterday the chief thug of the premier was tossed out of his cabinet position. This morning the Premier was tossed out by the party. Now if we can only get the Police commissioner, we will not have too badly!
Howard, the Prime minister at the time was tossed out last election — lost his seat and his party lost government.

Not suggesting that things are rosy, too much to be done, too much to roll back after 1100 years under the heal of the oppressors! ( Some say it was only eleven years, but nobody could do so much damage in just eleven years!)

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» RE: things can change . . . Posted by: Turiye
» violence inherent in the system Posted by: Elmowilcox
No Commie Red Scare anymore - Just Red and Blue Scare in the all new Union of Soviet America
Posted by: alchidester on Sep 5, 2008 2:02 AM   
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No Commie Red Scare anymore - just Red and Blue Scare in the all new and improved Union of Soviet America - the Undemocratic Peoples Police Republic of America. I've talked to some retired police who are aghast at what is going down now. Bull Connor was a pussycat compared to these folks – just fire hoses, dogs and teargas. Our civil rights have been repealed by the brownshirt thugs of our new cultural authoritarian revolution. I wonder who will write the history of this period and how it will be "sanitized" to make these bastards appear to be the "good guys" who maintained "order" in the face of these extremely dangerous felony rioting reporters. Time for a new Tea Party, methinks. Did I just write that? Never mind. You can all go back to sleep, served and protected – those nasty reporters won’t be able to upset you anymore with stories about protesters with their contrary opinions, delusions about what their rights are and strange tales about Declarations and Constitutions.

Al Chidester

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» History belongs to the penholders Posted by: Elmowilcox
This Will All Be Forgotten
Posted by: ronniejw on Sep 5, 2008 2:27 AM   
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In just a few days this will all be forgotten as if it never happened. It’s been that way since the first white man planted his feet on this countries soil (read “A Peoples History of the United States” by Howard Zinn).

Neither the Democrats nor Republicans will ever change anything. They are both fascist and are mere puppets for corporations. The most we can expect from Obama is a few scraps and from McCain more of the same.

The left is calling for Bush to be charged with murder for the war in Iraq. What is the left going to do when Obama does not remove our troops from that illegal war or sends more troops, as he has already promised, to Afghanistan, another illegal war? Call for him to be charged as well? No. They are going to say that at least it’s better then when Bush was in office. NOTHING WILL CHANGE!

And don’t hold your breath waiting for the people of America to rise up and make any meaningful changes either. Americans are mostly a bunch of ignorant, selfish, greedy, bastards.

Ronnie Wright
SFC, US Army Ret.
www.worldchangecafe.com

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Disc Golfer
Posted by: disc golf on Sep 5, 2008 4:27 AM   
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I love the work Amy Goodman (e.g., Democracy Now) is doing and am outraged at the treatment she and her colleagues received in Minnesota. Sadly, I can't say I am surprised--studying as I am, the way in which our country is quickly sliding down the road to fascism (corporatism is the polite way of saying this). Naomi Wolf described this decline very well in her book, "The End of America."

Wake up Americans! Your freedoms are being stolen from you. It is not, in my opinion, about riot-gear wearing police officers needing to do what they've practiced for. The fact that Minneapolis negotiated an insurance policy in which the first $10 million was paid by the RNC tells us that they didn't WANT fair behavior by the police! If we live in a terrorist state (bullshit really!), we better have our police act like we live in such a state.

Sure, we need to be afraid...VERY afraid, but I'm afraid the fear needs to be directed at our very own government and sadly, today that is our own police. Cops in plain clothes gear ADMIRING "democracy in action", would have been the appropriate choice.

So many of us are absolutely ashamed at how Amy, her friends (AND the other 325 people arrested) were treated. And the minimal press coverage of these abuses--both of the police and of the "system" into which they've been thrust--provides further evidence of our slide to fascism.

Call Mayor R.T. Rybak at 612-673-2100 and let him know you do NOT appreciate how protesters, journalists and others were treated! Arrested for the "Crime" of walking down the street? Having your office destroyed by the police because you're organizing peaceful protests (citizens against poverty or something like that), It's bad enough they were forced BLOCKS away from the convention center (just like the DNC in Denver) but to not even be able to peacefully assemble? Call your local TV station as well. This should be news, although we know the corporate-controlled media has totally ignored this story.

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HATE RADIO REALLY DOES INCITE TO VIOLENCE. YET IT RUNS FREE DAILY
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Sep 5, 2008 4:38 AM   
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to promote the evils of the far right. John Mccain, the RNC, and company promote it for its political value. If they didn't, then they would come on board to dismantle it. Never for one minute will any of them disavow any of their propganda machine.

Think about what hate radio, the RNC's hate books, and the republican hate tanks have done. They stirred up the killings in the Unitarian church: two dead and 4 wounded. The assasination of the chairman of the Arkansas democratic party, was undoubtedly politically motivated. The killer was conveniently killed. McCain says, "bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran". The right has been quiet about the right wing killings and bombing of abortion clinics by their followers. They did in fact incite this violence. Timothy McVeigh was self admittedly a student of the various venues of right wing propaganda. His Oklahoma City bombing was a direct product of the incitment to violence by the right. He killed 160.

Republicans are killers. You were lucky to get away with your life in Minnesota. A person might also consider the number of Iraqi civilians killed. The smallest estimates are the hundreds of thousands to well in exess of a million. All of this was done for the right to drill 11,000 shallow oil wells. Then they have the nerve to execute a Mafia enforcer. As a people the citizens of the U. S. have a high tolerance for hypocrisy.

Remember, when your enemy falsely accuses you there was something on his mind that caused him to think of the false accusation. He was/is guilty of what he just accused you of. It is equal to a public admission of guilt. If he was keeping his actions a secret, he has let the cat out of the bag. You now know where to go to hunt to build his prosecution.

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Heil Palin!!!!
Posted by: godsbreath64 on Sep 5, 2008 5:23 AM   
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Can the story now be about the American Fascism, already?

The constsustional america is only a chapter in US history.

Go timelines!!!!!

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PatS
Posted by: pats2827 on Sep 5, 2008 5:45 AM   
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All lovers of freedom and democracy should be sickened by the pictures from the St. Paul...bullies with badges creating violence, arresting innocent people to quell dissent, and, trampling the Constitution...all with the blessing of the government.
This is a picture we have seen over and over again during the past 8 years; and I wonder how long we will allow it to go on.

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People get Ready!
Posted by: GrannyBgood on Sep 5, 2008 5:45 AM   
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This is a little Preview of what they have in store for us if the Neocons win/Steal/Cancel the Election and are allowed to go on ruling this country!

I try to point this out to those who think they are voting their "Principles" above party when they plan to vote Nader or another third party.
(Do your homework, get IRV; do it BETWEEN elections!)
This is NOT the time! It's a matter purely of SURVIVAL this time.

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As evil as the illegal arrests were
Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 5, 2008 5:51 AM   
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Amy Goodman was lucky it happened here in the USA. Putin has dissident reporters shot.

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» Appologist. Posted by: EinMD
» No apologist, just a realist Posted by: Last Chance
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» lucky it happened in the usa... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
And who will rise to condemn it?
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Sep 5, 2008 6:34 AM   
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God bless Amy and the protestors. There is nothing new here, it happens every year at the SOA protests at Fort Benning, Georgia. What doesn't happen is for one Congressman, Senator or other public official to condemn it and laud the 1st Amendment freedom of the press and condemn any attempt to abridge it. McCain/Palin don't give a damn and who the hell knows what Obamarama/Biden think? Welcome to the world of Valerie Plame and its extension to anything deemed subversive by the most craven criminals known to man that may now have surpassed Hitler's atrocities. At least Hitler had opponents, this crowd doesn't!

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Yay! Freedom!
Posted by: EinMD on Sep 5, 2008 6:44 AM   
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Thank you so MUCH Republicans! I feel so much safer knowing Mr. POW will be in charge.

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Anarchists arrested
Posted by: warrior woman on Sep 5, 2008 7:03 AM   
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Every day, the local CBS affiliate, WCCO announced that marches started out peacefully until the anarchists arrived. Then they would comment that x number of anarchists were arrested. They NEVER said what groups the anarchists belonged to, only that they were there. ANARCHISTS invading the streets.

You know what this means don't you? I've had goosebumps all week.

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» RE: Anarchists arrested Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: Anarchists arrested Posted by: leafsong1
better be careful
Posted by: jstepp590 on Sep 5, 2008 7:04 AM   
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Cops better be real careful when they do things like this. They'll get away with it for a while but when you push people like this eventually they will push back. Police may have come to the conclusion that they can do what they want, because most people are law abiding, but cops are not military and if enough people get angry enough and a real riot starts the police are going to get their asses kicked. That is simple human nature and always has been. It would be the biginning of urban combat and once blood is spilled and lives are lost it is almost impossible to put the genie back into the bottle.

I think what we have to watch out for is that their higher ups are trying for exactly that reaction. That would give them the pretext to clamp down even harder, or at least try to. What they don't seem to grasp is that in this country there are only probably 15-20 million law enforcement of all stripes but 300 million armed citizens. When the police go too far and end up with their asses in a crack there won't be anyone to bail them out. The federal government is not allowed to use troops within our borders and the reserve and national guard are not going to fight their own people and families.

Very dangerous, very slippery slope. Also, another good reason to vote Democrat this year as we do not hear about these actions at Democratic conventions, that I know of anyway.

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Agreed
Posted by: clvngodess on Sep 5, 2008 7:57 AM   
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Here's some more perspective:
http://votersforpeace.us/pvpcandidate.php

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Serious Misunderstanding
Posted by: madmac10 on Sep 5, 2008 8:06 AM   
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By either Amy Goodman or myself. The Constitution says that CONGRESS shall make no law abridging these rights. It says nothing about local, state, or other entities. If a good journalist could uncover how an Act of Congress resulted in this mistreatment (e.g. Homeland Security was involved,) then I suspect that the incident could blow up into a scandal of Plame proportions. Otherwise, I am sorry to say that this is to be expected: for many people, press reportage is historically synonymous with incitement to insurrection--has been since 1776.

If I am wrong, I would surely appreciate being corrected.

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» RE: Serious Misunderstanding Posted by: Skippy61
controlled opposition
Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Sep 5, 2008 8:23 AM   
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amy goodman is a controlled leftwing gatekeeper... i dont trust her to be 100% straight on the issues

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A long, slow march to Authoritarianism
Posted by: Rathan47 on Sep 5, 2008 8:26 AM   
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Over the last decade, the US has been slowly marching it's way towards Authoritarianism.

And if you believe that this will suddenly change if the Democratic Party is elected in Nov, think again. The control that was gained, the power that the government now has, will be hard to let go of. Liberties lost are not easily regained, except through upheaval.

My gut feeling is that things are going to get worse before they get better, because there are not nearly enough people upset about these things. Most people just ignore it all and go about their day because it doesn't affect them.

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Impeach Bush and Cheney
Posted by: LiveFree on Sep 5, 2008 8:39 AM   
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As long as Congress and the American people allow President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney avoid accountability for their high crimes and expansive violations of the U.S. constitution, we will see further erosion of the freedoms of speech, assembly and of the press that many thousands have died to protect and perserve over more than two centuries.

We are at a true crossroads in American history. What will American voters choose in November?

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Gestapho state.....
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 5, 2008 8:50 AM   
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This is a perfect example of why these people need to be out of office! The police (always at the ready for giving a beating), are allowed to brutalize citizens under the guise of "crowd control" are given free reign!

Truth, and justice are given short shrift, and under this administration they have taken it to a whole new realm! It is the police state that we citizens need to guard against!
McShame was partially correct - they came to Washington and became drunk on the power! So much so that they do not want to relinquish it! The time is now to stop this intrusion upon our rights, our government by corrupt incompetent thugs!

Huxley was 20 years off, but he predicted correctly! These people are off the chart and there is no telling what a 3rd term of Bushco will bring to these shores! As someone that continues to tout his POW service to this country - he more than others should realize that war is hell, and should give pause before continuing this disastrous course or starting another! He more than anyone should understand that torture doesn't yield the truth - as someone that signed whatever was put in front of him as a POW - he should remember those lessons. And yet, he continues to parrot the party line WAR, WAR, WAR! No, this man is not ready to be President of this country! Because that is NOT HOW A PATRIOT ACTS!!

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retired photographer
Posted by: cef on Sep 5, 2008 9:02 AM   
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The way to discourage such attacks on journalists is to organize. Progressives and civil rights organizations should boycott that city, the way we did Chicago after Illinois turned down the ERA. Money is something even power freaks understand.

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They are charging you with crimes. Bring countersuits!
Posted by: mgloraine on Sep 5, 2008 9:46 AM   
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You can't just show up for your court date and hope they don't hand out the maximum penalty, because that's precisely what they plan to do. You need to get with the ACLU or some similar group and press charges against the mayors, police chiefs, individual officers, and probably the FBI and Dept. of "Justice". This was not an incident of regular cops breaking up a street scuffle, but a pre-planned campaign of suppression involving a lot of resources and obviously a substantial amount of domestic spying. Smells like Mukasey.

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PIGS
Posted by: leafsong1 on Sep 5, 2008 9:49 AM   
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This is why we call them PIGS: because they ARE PIGS. As they interpose themselves between the tyrants and the people, they make themselves enemies of the people; they lose their legitimacy, their honor, their status as officers. They waive the protection of their persons that society grants them as agents of law enforcement. They put themselves and all of their fellow officers at risk of retaliation and acts of self-defense. Bad cops get good cops killed; they are cop-killers; they are PIGS.

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» RE: PIGS Posted by: donl51
With ball I read,hear and witness,inthis country
Posted by: donl51 on Sep 5, 2008 9:51 AM   
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....I've made the decision not to vote at all,many,actually all of my friends have agreed as well,Why bother,the entire system is corrupt,and your vote is a paper tiger!!and the lowest educated of our body of friends is probably me w/ only two Masters degrees ,so we're not ignorant people....if these candidates are not beyond a real message,then not casting your vote is a pretty intence one!!or go one better vote independent,!does it really matter who's running?

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Free Speach Zones?
Posted by: BCcovers on Sep 5, 2008 10:13 AM   
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The founders would have been aghast at the creation of such "zones" outside the conventions. Our whole country should be and is enumerated in the Bill Of Rights as being a Free-Speach zone.

With that being said people have to be reticent of the consequences of exercising your free speech amognst violent individuals who openly advocate the overthrow of western society and our government. These are not the majority of activists and no journalists are counted amount these individuals, but they exist and inflict often times meaningless violence on both private interests, public interests, and even individuals.

And that's the paradox here, it's a fine line between pushing these people back and roughing them up a bit in order to prevent a situaiton where there would be NO choice but to open fire and on total free speech. Free speech is no longer free speech the minute someone picks up a weapon, breaks a storefront, or throws projectiles; then it is a riot. When this does unfortunately happen the police have to quickly respond so that there will be hopefully no major injuries to either the perpetraitors or innocent activists. And by major I mean bullet wounds....

If things were to get to the point where the "bad seeds" of activists want them to be (and we've all run into these people) where malatov cocktails are thrown and it begins to endanger people's lives, then the police would have to put down the riot through force, causing death and despair.

So Amy and her colleagues were wrongfully imprisoned, I totally agree. But people on this board in general have to stop calling the cops Nazis for acting in ways that actually help to prevent oppression and death. Also a cursory read of history would show you that the nazis were the ones throwing the malotov cocktails and inciting riots and violence against the Democratic government in the 20's. Don't be fooled by violent a-holes at these protests, they are no different then their predecessors. Be safe, excerise your rights, but please keep a head on your shoulders and don't be sucked into a mob mentality by a couple people actually looking to incite a police response.

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» RE: Troll Policing Unwelcome Posted by: BigElectricCat
Sickning
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Sep 5, 2008 10:43 AM   
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To watch the convention coverage on the MSM you get the impression everything is fun and games.

Knowing this is going on but not being covered is to know that the "land of the free and the home of the brave" is a cruel facade.

I do not believe the neocons are going to give up power just because there is an election where their support is in the toilet.

"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes." Joseph Stalin

Luv,
Granny

Granny's crazy videos = Go get a chuckle!

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» RE: Sickning Posted by: BigElectricCat
Slipping into Fascism
Posted by: Tyrus95 on Sep 5, 2008 10:43 AM   
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Preemptive strikes on peaceful demonstrators and the press?!

This was The Story!

Inside the convention hall, Sarah Palin ridicules Obama for wanting to use diplomacy first? Ridicule for wanting to protect civil rights?

Anonymous riot police used to intimidate and stifle dissent? McCain & Palin move us closer and closer to fascism.

The kind of freedom Bush/McCain/Palin are so keen to export is just a cover for Corporate Profit and control of the international markets.

"Wake up America!" Don't let this happen. We need our loyal opposition and a free press to protect our democracy. "Wake up America! Wake up America! Wake up America!"

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